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“Ableist, sizeist and ageist” cycling meme controversy; Dylan Groenewegen needed police protection after being sent death threats and a noose; Not Near Miss of the Day: Robot spots cyclist and doesn’t pull out; “War against cars” + more on the live blog

It’s Tuesday and Dan Alexander is in the saddle for another day on the live blog
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Tue, Jan 26, 2021 09:06
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  • Politician who campaigned to scrap Kensington High Street cycle lane complains of "war against cars"
  • Sagan's special day
  • Štybar in, Aru out...
  • Not Near Miss of the Day: Robot spots cyclist and doesn't pull out
  • One of Britain's oldest paperboys still going strong aged 80
  • Cycling UK appoints Janet Atherton as new chair of trustees, the first time two women have held the top roles in the charity's history
  • Dylan Groenewegen needed police protection after being sent death threats and a noose
  • Here's something you don't see everyday...
  • Arkéa–Samsic deny offering to pay for Giro d'Italia wildcard
  • That's how you do National Champs kits
  • Birthday skills
  • "Ableist, sizeist and ageist": cycling meme causes controversy on social media
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26 January 2021, 09:06

Politician who campaigned to scrap Kensington High Street cycle lane complains of "war against cars"

It’s vital to help more people to walk and cycle, but this must not be via a “war against cars”. https://t.co/mhtACbq0QE

— Tony Devenish (@Tony_Devenish) January 24, 2021

Tony Devenish had more than a few people pointing out the irony of his tweet… ‘It’s vital to help more people to walk and cycle, but this must not be via a “war against cars”’…Presumably, the Kensington High Street cycle lane was one such act of war against drivers, considering how decisively he and Felicity Buchan campaigned for its removal.

Since the removal, which was opposed by all schools in the area and Imperial College, parked cars have in many places replaced the space where the lane used to be. At least there’s no more congestion on the High Street…

Child *waves white flag* at Tony, and concedes defeat at no longer being enabled to safely cycle to school in @RBKC

— Jo Rigby (@Jo_Earlsfield) January 24, 2021

4pm on an average Thursday on Kensington High Street:

How it started vs. How it’s going… pic.twitter.com/WoWnjz7pCh

— Adam Tranter (@adamtranter) December 10, 2020

26 January 2021, 09:06

Sagan's special day

💚 Happy birthday to the Tour’s 7-time green jersey winner: 🇸🇰 @petosagan!

💚 Joyeux anniversaire au septuple maillot vert du Tour : 🇸🇰 @petosagan ! pic.twitter.com/HD6hLmtwGg

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) January 26, 2021

26 January 2021, 09:06

Štybar in, Aru out...

This is the kind of news we love!

Three-time winner of the event, @zdenekstybar will be at the start of the World Cyclo-cross Championships in Oostende: https://t.co/4bbx12Jgxk
Photo: @BeelWout pic.twitter.com/tgdJ1SJR4g

— Deceuninck-QuickStep (@deceuninck_qst) January 25, 2021

Three-time Cyclo-cross World Champion, Zdeněk Štybar has announced he’ll return to his old stomping ground to race the UCI Cyclo-cross World Championships this Sunday. The Czech, who rides for Deceuninck-Quick-Step, crossed over to road cycling in 2011 but will return for another shot at World Championship rainbow bands in Oostende.

On the decision he said: “It was not expected that I would ride the Worlds this year, but things have evolved. As we know this discipline is my passion, so after watching some races on television I felt in my stomach that I really wanted to race. It would not have normally fit in to my schedule, but things have changed and having done a lot of training my condition feels good.”

One man who won’t be racing is Fabio Aru. The Italian dipped his toe in the Cyclo-cross mud over the winter which led to speculation that he may take to the start line in Belgium. However, the 2015 Vuelta a España winner has agreed to leave the Italian squad’s spaces available to younger specialists in the discipline. Aru will stay at Qhubeka-Assos’ training camp instead.

26 January 2021, 09:06

Not Near Miss of the Day: Robot spots cyclist and doesn't pull out

This isn’t the start of a new series on road.cc…We just thought it was quite funny. After 529 Near Miss of the Day videos, here’s the first Not Near Miss of the Day…All it took was for a robot to be involved. This autonomous delivery robot sees the cyclist coming and doesn’t pull out on him…As the reader who sent the footage told us: “There is hope for the future…” 

Talking of Near Miss of the Day, today’s offering is a close pass at speed by a Peugeot driver on a narrow country lane in Cornwall…

26 January 2021, 09:06

One of Britain's oldest paperboys still going strong aged 80

One of Britain’s oldest paperboys is still cracking on with his daily route having celebrated his 80th birthday over the weekend. George Bailey rides the same two-and-a-half-mile route around Headcorn in Kent each morning on his bike and says it helps keep him fit. Having received his coronavirus vaccination last week Bailey was in good spirits when he spoke to the BBC about his routine.

“It’s to try and keep fit,” Bailey explained. “Otherwise it would be at home, a little bit of gardening and I’m not one to go jogging at my age. So the bicycle keeps me fit. I wouldn’t do it if I didn’t enjoy it.”

26 January 2021, 09:06

Cycling UK appoints Janet Atherton as new chair of trustees, the first time two women have held the top roles in the charity's history

Cycling UK has appointed former Director of Public Health and Senior Public Health Adviser in NHS Test and Trace, Janet Atherton, as chair of trustees. Along with Sarah Mitchell as the charity’s chief executive, it is the first time in their 143-year history that women have held the two top posts. It signals the charity’s intent to make cycling “accessible to everyone regardless of background, age, ability beliefs or gender”.

As part of their goal, Cycling UK has planned a fifth Women’s Festival of Cycling to take place in July of this year where women will be invited to join organised rides and digital events. Speaking on her appointment Atherton said: “Cycling UK’s mission is to get millions more people cycling. Cycling should be accessible to everyone regardless of their background, age, ability, beliefs or gender. I want to see Cycling UK continue to build a social movement to get people out on bikes.”

Data shows that in England, men make two-and-a-half times as many cycle trips as women and cycle more than three times as many miles.

26 January 2021, 09:06

Dylan Groenewegen needed police protection after being sent death threats and a noose

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Tour de France 2019 Bianchi Oltre XR4 Groenewegen (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Dylan Groenewegen has told Dutch magazine Helden about the ugly fallout from his Tour of Poland crash with Fabio Jakobsen, which neither sprinter has yet returned to racing from. Groenewegen revealed he received multiple death threats and was sent a noose with a note telling him he should hang his unborn child. A police guard was posted at his house in the days after the crash.

“There were such concrete and serious threats that we called the police a few days after the crash,” Groenewegen told Helden magazine. “We received handwritten letters in the mail, which even included a noose that we could hang our child on when it would be born. When you read that message and see that piece of rope, you are shocked. That was the deciding factor for me that it could not continue like this.

“I went to the police and reported it. The police immediately took action after seeing those letters. That does reflect the seriousness of those threats. Of course that affects you. What happened here? How is this possible? What sick world do we live in?”

The Jumbo-Visma sprinter was suspended for nine months for his role in the crash which left Jakobsen in an induced coma in hospital with a fractured skull and serious facial injuries. Just last week Groenewegen’s team released his initial race programme for 2021 as they try to ease him back into life in the peloton with some smaller European and WorldTour races. The 27-year-old is not expected to ride a Grand Tour in 2021 with the priority just to get him back on the start line.

26 January 2021, 09:06

Here's something you don't see everyday...

Hats off to @MailSport and @dpcoverdale for highlighting the fact that Covid-19 has given more of us a chance to get out on our bikes.

Strongly recommend the column by @Chris_Boardman. https://t.co/6pkPvVLrxg

— Scott Dougal (@scottdougal) January 26, 2021

A pullout promoting cycling in the Daily Mail…2021, you’re already full of surprises… 

26 January 2021, 09:06

Arkéa–Samsic deny offering to pay for Giro d'Italia wildcard

Nairo Quintana (centre) with Arkea-Samsic team mates at Tour de France (picture credit Alex Whitehead SWpix.com)
Nairo Quintana (centre) with Arkea-Samsic team mates at Tour de France (picture credit Alex Whitehead SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Nairo Quintana (centre) with Arkea-Samsic team mates at Tour de France (picture credit Alex Whitehead SWpix.com)
Nairo Quintana (centre) with Arkea-Samsic team mates at Tour de France (picture credit Alex Whitehead SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Team manger Emmanuel Hubert has denied that Arkéa–Samsic offered to pay for a wildcard spot at the Giro, with Nairo Quintana reportedly keen to return to the Grand Tour he won in 2014. “Paying to take part in the races is not in my DNA. We applied for the Giro, but without talking about money. I am waiting to know if they will take us for all the races we have requested, not just the Giro. The fact that a former Giro winner like Nairo wants to come certainly helps,” Hubert told Mon Peloton.

Quintana, now 30, won the Italian Grand Tour seven years ago, but has not ridden the race since 2017. During that edition, the Colombian wore the maglia rosa for three days before being overhauled by Tom Dumoulin in the final stage time trial.

26 January 2021, 09:06

That's how you do National Champs kits

Kiwi power!
Such a stunning jersey @Theflyingmullet has!
Photo: @BeelWout pic.twitter.com/1zmAUdZfV7

— Deceuninck-QuickStep (@deceuninck_qst) January 26, 2021

26 January 2021, 09:06

Birthday skills

Happy 31st birthday to @petosagan. Here’s that time he climbed a flight of stairs on his bike 🎂🎁 pic.twitter.com/0U4x15aPWQ

— Velon CC (@VelonCC) January 26, 2021

🎂Happy birthday Peter! | 🎂Buon Compleanno @petosagan! #Giro #HappyBirthday #Cycling #Cyclinglife #Cyclist #Ciclismo #Italy pic.twitter.com/hiNxv5XFmV

— Giro d’Italia (@giroditalia) January 26, 2021

26 January 2021, 09:06

"Ableist, sizeist and ageist": cycling meme causes controversy on social media

This meme, which was first posted by the Facebook group ‘Cycling Today: The Joy Division’ at the weekend, is continuing to do the rounds on social media today. Including, of all places, in the Glasgow Critical Mass Facebook group which describes itself as: “An open group for everyone who believes that cycling is the best and most fun means of transport!” Unsurprisingly, some members have challenged the post for portraying “ableist” and “elitist” stereotypes.

One group admin justified it by saying: “No I showed the natural progression of man as he ages with his bikes, no fat shaming, ageism, no derogatory comments about the use of e-bikes. Lighten up.”

Bo Mansell replied: “e-bikes make cycling more accessible for people who have mobility difficulties. This meme is both ableist and sizeist. Why would anyone attend CM when you represent it like this. I don’t find it funny to alienate people from cycling based on their size, ability or indeed, age. It’s only ‘funny’ if you’re not on the receiving end of it.”

Christopher Atkinson added: “Is it genuinely acceptable within this group to make ableist and ageist cycling jokes? Isn’t the point of this group to promote inclusive cycling and road safety, how is this achieved by jokes like this?”

Thoughts?

26 January 2021, 09:06

Near Miss of the Day 529: Driver in close pass on country lane (video includes swearing)

Near Miss of the Day 529: Driver in close pass on country lane (video includes swearing)

Our regular series featuring close passes from around the country - today it's Cornwall

26 January 2021, 09:06

Cyclist reveals abuse received when asking group riders in Regent’s Park not to flout lockdown rules

Cyclist reveals abuse received when asking group riders in Regent’s Park not to flout lockdown rules

Many are ignoring lockdown rules by going to park “to meet friends” with some even “going for coffee afterwards," a road.cc reader has claimed

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49 thoughts on ““Ableist, sizeist and ageist” cycling meme controversy; Dylan Groenewegen needed police protection after being sent death threats and a noose; Not Near Miss of the Day: Robot spots cyclist and doesn’t pull out; “War against cars” + more on the live blog”

  1. jasecd
    January 26, 2021 at 9:28 am
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    War against cars? Oh do fuck

    War against cars? Oh do fuck off.

    The social, health and environmental problems caused by cars are obvious and well known yet their use is still effectively subsidised and spending on road building is at a record high. Car use should be minimised and they should be kept out of towns and cities as much as possible – it’s in everyone’s interests.

    Yet another privileged Tory who’s so fragile and afraid of change they find a way to reverse the narrative and play the victim.

     

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    • Kendalred
      January 26, 2021 at 9:44 am
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      Exactly – Tony the Tory

      Exactly – Tony the Tory claiming victimhood along with those Fair Fuel idiots – ‘Won’t someone think of the poor, put-upon salt-of-the-earth hard-working (we musn’t forget the Tory mantra ‘Hard-working’) taxpaying motorist’. Words cannot express my utter raging contempt for this entitled prick. I bet he’s one of those dicks who also think ‘what about White Lives Matter’. Arsehole.

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  2. hawkinspeter
    January 26, 2021 at 9:33 am
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    If it’s a war on cars, why is

    If it’s a war on cars, why is it only the cyclists that are getting injured and killed?

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    • Captain Badger
      January 26, 2021 at 9:35 am
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      hawkinspeter wrote:

      If it’s a war on cars, why is it only the cyclists that are getting injured and killed?

      — hawkinspeter

      Cos we’re not very good at it…..

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      • hawkinspeter
        January 26, 2021 at 10:15 am
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        Captain Badger wrote:

        If it’s a war on cars, why is it only the cyclists that are getting injured and killed?

        — Captain Badger

        Cos we’re not very good at it…..

        — hawkinspeter

        To be honest, I don’t remember seeing the memo about having a war with cars. Is it just the cars or does it include the drivers as well?

        Should I be going around slashing tyres? As a lazy techy person, I’m more inclined to get some kind of wireless key jamming device and just prevent drivers getting into their cars.

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        • Hirsute
          January 26, 2021 at 10:51 am
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          It was Friday 8th this month,

          It was Friday 8th this month, you must have turned up on the 1st.

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          • Captain Badger
            January 26, 2021 at 11:01 am
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            hirsute wrote:

            It was Friday 8th this month, you must have turned up on the 1st.

            — hirsute

            Did that go ahead? Someone in The Car Lobby told me they’d booked the hall. Typical shabby trick…..

          • Hirsute
            January 26, 2021 at 12:31 pm
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            Don’t be silly, we had to

            Don’t be silly, we had to meet in the car park – it’s lockdown !

          • Captain Badger
            January 26, 2021 at 12:37 pm
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            hirsute wrote:

            Don’t be silly, we had to meet in the car park – it’s lockdown !

            — hirsute

            Well that wasn’t going to work, cyclists never venture out unless it’s summer….

          • hawkinspeter
            January 26, 2021 at 11:03 am
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            Dagnammit – I’d made loads of

            Dagnammit – I’d made loads of baklava, too.

        • Simon E
          January 26, 2021 at 3:32 pm
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          hawkinspeter wrote:

          To be honest, I don’t remember seeing the memo about having a war with cars.

          — hawkinspeter

          Like many people who also cycle, I’ve been driving cars for over 35 years. During that time I have been able to drive more or less wherever and whenever I wanted, 24 hours a day. I’ve not seen any evidence of a war; in fact Shropshire council bends over backwards to please car drivers with free or cheap parking in the town centre, refusing to pedestrianise shopping areas already buzzing with people on foot, refusing to address parking on pavements and double yellow lines etc etc and actively promoting a hugely expensive additional bypass when we already have a dual carriageway around 3/4 of the town.

          They also won’t address the air quality issues, congestion, pollution and danger presented by allowing so many vehicles around the narrow, winding streets of our towns.

          They make no effort to enable active travel. New business parks and housing developments (of which there are many) have – at best – a token shared path that is liable to end suddenly with those henious ‘cyclist dismount’ signs. They let the privatised Arriva bus service ratchet up ticket prices so that it costs £4+ to go the 3 miles to town on a noisy, smelly polluting vehicle even though a move to electric buses was promised in 2017… No, car drivers are definitely very well catered for and encouraged in all parts of Shropshire.

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      • muhasib
        January 26, 2021 at 2:28 pm
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        “the prerequisite for any
        “the prerequisite for any battle was that the enemy should under no circumstances carry guns”.

        As a notable Army Officer once said…

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    • Mungecrundle
      January 26, 2021 at 10:30 am
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      If we officially give up, are
      If we officially give up, are the cars bound by the Geneva convention to stop killing us?

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      • hawkinspeter
        January 26, 2021 at 10:46 am
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        Mungecrundle wrote:

        If we officially give up, are the cars bound by the Geneva convention to stop killing us?

        — Mungecrundle

        Yes, but I’m sure that the occasional “accident” will still happen – drivers are busy people and can’t always be paying attention to what’s happening on the road around them.

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        • Captain Badger
          January 26, 2021 at 11:02 am
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          hawkinspeter wrote:

          ….

          Yes, but I’m sure that the occasional “accident” will still happen – drivers are busy people and can’t always be paying attention to what’s happening on the road around them.

          — hawkinspeter

          Those phones don’t answer themselves you know…..

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      • Captain Badger
        January 26, 2021 at 11:01 am
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        Mungecrundle wrote:

        If we officially give up, are the cars bound by the Geneva convention to stop killing us?

        — Mungecrundle

        We, after all, have a recognised uniform… Lycra and no hiviz

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        • TheBillder
          January 26, 2021 at 1:23 pm
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          Recognised and yet noticeably
          Recognised and yet noticeably invisible to all gammons.

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  3. HarrogateSpa
    January 26, 2021 at 9:38 am
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    It sounds as though Tony

    It sounds as though Tony Devenish is in favour of active travel in principle, but at the same time absolutely determined there should be no change to the car-dominated status quo in practice.

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      January 26, 2021 at 10:07 am
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      Sounds like he would have

      Sounds like he would have been perfect on Worcestershire council. They put in for the Active Travel grants but had drawn red lines that any new cycling provisions put in would not take any road or parking away from motor vehicles. 

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    • IanGlasgow
      January 27, 2021 at 11:51 pm
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      HarrogateSpa wrote:

      It sounds as though Tony Devenish is in favour of active travel in principle, but at the same time absolutely determined there should be no change to the car-dominated status quo in practice.

      — HarrogateSpa

      We have a councillor like that here in Glasgow; says she supports cycling, but keeps voting against new bike lanes if it means the loss of a parking space.

      A few years back local campaign group Gobike supported the upgrading of what was a line of paint to a proper bike lane but had suggested some design improvements. She represented this as:
      “I was aware of objections from Go Bike to the proposed traffic regulation order on Clarence Drive and did not support the plans on this basis. “

      Unbelievably this person in a councillor for The Scottish Green Party!

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  4. Philh68
    January 26, 2021 at 9:48 am
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    War against cars, could he be

    War against cars, could he be any more melodramatic? Poor bloody Tories, always frightened of having taken from them what they should never have had in the first place.

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  5. stonojnr
    January 26, 2021 at 10:44 am
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    The Telegraph simultaneously
    The Telegraph simultaneously campaigning to ‘Keep Kids Active’ during lockdown,whilst campaigning against cycling schemes that actually promote activity for kids during lockdown.

    And people think it’s just the tabloids which cause the problems

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  6. OnYerBike
    January 26, 2021 at 11:40 am
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    I did not know autonomous

    I did not know autonomous delivery robots were a thing in the UK. Are they a thing? Are they legal?

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      January 26, 2021 at 11:55 am
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      I was shocked as well.

      I was shocked as well. Apparently they have been trialled in Milton Keynes for awhile. 

      As an aside, did the videographer have the rear camera at  the base of his skull / nape of the neck?

       

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      • Bigpikle
        January 26, 2021 at 12:10 pm
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        They’ve been in use around MK

        They’ve been in use around MK for a long time – you see them all the time on pavements around the area. I’ve not heard of any issues with them and miraculously they dont seem to get stolen or vandalised either.

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      • HoarseMann
        January 26, 2021 at 3:34 pm
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        AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

        As an aside, did the videographer have the rear camera at  the base of his skull / nape of the neck?

        — AlsoSomniloquism

        It’s under the saddle – the weird thing at the top of the image is just a cable lock wrapped round the saddle rails/bag. I’m quite tall, so have the saddle high – but not that high!

        I was riding back after dropping the car off at the garage (getting some use out of the studded Schwalbe Winter tyres). I didn’t actually notice it until it moved, not seen one as far out as Newport Pagnell and not in the road like that before.

        They’re usually around Kingston/Middleton – often corralled outside Smashburger, just waiting to deliver a lukewarm beef patty to your door…

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        • AlsoSomniloquism
          January 26, 2021 at 4:12 pm
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          Good to hear as it did look

          Good to hear as it did look like the helmet bit. 

          As for not seeing one out that far, maybe it was lost?

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        • IanMK
          January 26, 2021 at 4:33 pm
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          I’ve seen them in Newport
          I’ve seen them in Newport Pagnell. Along the Wolverton Rd. Somebody said they did co-op deliveries??

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          • HoarseMann
            January 26, 2021 at 5:38 pm
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            IanMK wrote:

            I’ve seen them in Newport Pagnell. Along the Wolverton Rd. Somebody said they did co-op deliveries??

            — IanMK

            Yep, they do Co-op. Started out here I think with the trial in MK.

            https://goo.gl/maps/ewU3CN5TJmY9nzPe9

            But https://www.starship.xyz are now expanding to other areas.

    • Gimpl
      January 26, 2021 at 2:04 pm
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      Most certainly are – we’ve

      Most certainly are – we’ve had them in Milton Keynes for a while now. The local kids used to get a bit of a kick out of deliberately standing in their way however most of them seem to have got over that now as they are such a normal part of life here. 

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      • brooksby
        January 26, 2021 at 3:16 pm
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        But are they allowed to go on

        But are they allowed to go on the roads?  How does that work? – they’re not hi-viz…

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        • Gimpl
          January 26, 2021 at 3:36 pm
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          No – they don’t need to go on

          No – they don’t need to go on the roads. We have a completely segregated walking and cycling infrastructure called the Redways. 

          One of the reasons I’m not completely sure a segregated infrastructure is the answer to all of our cycling woes. 

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        • Jenova20
          January 26, 2021 at 4:51 pm
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          brooksby wrote:

          But are they allowed to go on the roads?  How does that work? – they’re not hi-viz…

          — brooksby

          Could have just been crossing the road in the video.

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        • eburtthebike
          January 26, 2021 at 5:07 pm
          0

          brooksby wrote:

          But are they allowed to go on the roads?  How does that work? – they’re not hi-viz…

          — brooksby

          Or wearing a helmet.

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    • Gimpl
      January 26, 2021 at 4:48 pm
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      Also – we almost have

      Also – we almost have autonomous taxis from the station up to CMK. They’re being trialled (or at least were) and expecting them to be rolled out before long. 

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  7. IanMK
    January 26, 2021 at 1:50 pm
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    Tony Devenish and his should

    Tony Devenish and his ilk should remember that their inability to imagine a world where our infrastructure is not primarily designed around the car is only evidence of their lack of imagination. It is not evidence that it couldn’t be done differently & better.

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  8. Bmblbzzz
    January 26, 2021 at 1:56 pm
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    I can’t read the Telegraph

    I can’t read the Telegraph article cos it wants me to subscribe. So I can only go from one Tweet. While it’s clear that in reality there is no “war on cars” – in fact our government, local authorities and society in general are very much friends and helpers of cars – nevertheless, some people seriously believe this mythical war is being conducted (mostly by those local authorities, which must make it some stealth civil war). If we were able to reverse this – conduct a real campaign against car dominance without it being perceived – wouldn’t that be clever? Or would it just mean the campaign was a failure (because if it’s unperceived, it has no effect)? 

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  9. RobD
    January 26, 2021 at 3:05 pm
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    Wow, the treatment of Dylan

    Wow, the treatment of Dylan Groenewegen is appalling, yes the guy made a mistake and the suspension etc is appropriate, but some people are despicable human beings, it’s not like he set out to kill the guy, he was just agressively an idiot in the heat of the moment.

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  10. eburtthebike
    January 26, 2021 at 5:08 pm
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    War on cars?  Maybe someone

    War on cars?  Maybe someone who knows where Tony Devenish parks his could make a start.

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  11. LarryDavidJr
    January 26, 2021 at 5:21 pm
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    I thought that picture was

    I thought that picture was kind of funny, but then I’m a fit slender roadie not a fat arsed e-biker. 

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    • wtjs
      January 26, 2021 at 6:10 pm
      0

      I thought that picture was

      I thought that picture was kind of funny, but then I’m a fit slender roadie not a fat arsed e-biker. 

      No ebikes seen around here for months- since the bad weather began. They don’t like it up ’em!

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    • Bikeylikey
      January 28, 2021 at 11:01 am
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      I thought it was kind of

      I thought it was kind of funny too, but then I will soon be a fit slender 70 year old roadie e-road-biker. Not fat arsed, but scraggy arsed. Is that ok? Or should I go and shoot myself now?

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  12. pockstone
    January 26, 2021 at 5:24 pm
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    Sexist? Ableist? Ageist?

    Sizeist? Ableist? Ageist?

    All I know is that that photo tells me (with 4 bikes in the garage) that I need a new one.

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    • Mungecrundle
      January 26, 2021 at 3:56 pm
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      On one level, the meme makes
      On one level, the meme makes no judgement about any physical attribute, that is all in the mind of the professionally offended.

      On another level, ebike riders might want to think carefully before posing with their breasts out if they ever want to run a proffesional cycling team.

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      • pockstone
        January 26, 2021 at 5:26 pm
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        Good advice, I’ll amend my

        Good advice, I’ll amend my Tindr profile forthwith.

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  13. don simon fbpe
    January 26, 2021 at 7:40 pm
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    I hope none of those blokes

    I hope none of those blokes in the controversial “sizeist” photo are looking to get jobs in cycling.

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  14. IanMK
    January 26, 2021 at 8:12 pm
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    Just to be clear, if I’m
    Just to be clear, if I’m going to join the war on cars should I start with my own car?

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    • Captain Badger
      January 26, 2021 at 8:34 pm
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      IanMK wrote:

      Just to be clear, if I’m going to join the war on cars should I start with my own car?

      — IanMK

      Yup, y’need to go and give it a good kicking.

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    • Hirsute
      January 26, 2021 at 9:03 pm
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      A damn good thrashing I’d say

      A damn good thrashing I’d say

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Chris RideFar 16 minutes ago

Hookless is still a bad idea. I agree that it should be safe when all guidelines are adhered to, but that is not always going to happen in the real world. I've had several clients come to my workshop with bikes that they've bought 2nd hand and have no idea what I mean when I ask about their hookless rims. Just yesterday I someone with a Scott bike with Zipp 303 S hookless wheels; he'd been pumping his tubed tires up to 90-100 psi on them, because that's what he's always done. I had to educate him and he's now going to be using his new 30mm tires at 60-65 psi and checking that his pump is somewhat calibrated. Why do brands like Zipp continuing to put people in dangerous situations that are totally unnecessary?

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mctrials23 37 minutes ago

I can't think of anywhere I have seen cyclists getting more space than pedestrians unless we count the fact that twats in cars like to park blocking pavements as a matter of course around me. I would also suggest that if you want people to travel around an area effectively instead of using a car, cycling is the best way to do it. I wouldn't walk 2-3 miles to get somewhere but I would happily cycle it because it would take me about 1/4 of the time or less.

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Anonymousattorney 2 hours ago

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MaxiMinimalist 5 hours ago

10 years in prison for killing a cyclist should be the minimum sentence. The objective is to raise awareness and remind motorists they must remain vigilant at all times when behind the wheel. Drivers who harm people and/or damage properties shall be sent to retest. No excuses. No exceptions.

in: Nine years in jail for drug driver 16 times over limit who killed oncoming cyclist; Suspended sentence for killing cyclist whilst attempting 3-point turn; Driving ban for 84-year old for injuring cyclist but no retest required: road.cc sentencing round-up
perce 5 hours ago

@wtjs No remorse from the 84 year old driver though. " He fully accepts responsibility and places no blame on the cyclist whatsoever". Which seems to imply he'd like to blame the cyclist if he could.

in: Nine years in jail for drug driver 16 times over limit who killed oncoming cyclist; Suspended sentence for killing cyclist whilst attempting 3-point turn; Driving ban for 84-year old for injuring cyclist but no retest required: road.cc sentencing round-up
maxdabrit 6 hours ago

Hookless and yet still ‘just 1585’ grams. No and no . The only thing ‘industry leading’ is their marketing team that convinces folk to part with their money for this product.

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GMBasix 6 hours ago

@wtjs That's how it works, though. The defendant expresses remorse. You can believe it or not, as can the judge. On the face of it, he is remorseful. Accepted. The Judge goes on to clarify that his remorse is effectively nullified: the defendant knew (or ought to have known) better; he had all the information he needed to know not to do it. So the judge has done what he needs to do: he acknowledges the remorse, takes it at face value and shows his balancing of the circumstances. If he did not, there is a chance it could be part of a sentencing appeal - "the judge did not take into account my remorse"... Well he did, and you're still a See You Next Tuesday! Now, whether 9 years and a time-limited ban are sufficient is a matter for sentencing guidelines which, without evidence to the contrary, I shall assume the judge has followed. My opinion is that the extended re-test needs to have a strong attitude test component, for a start, but that anybody who has caused death through such negligent regard for safety should not be permitted to operate a sewing machine, let alone a motor vehicle.

in: Nine years in jail for drug driver 16 times over limit who killed oncoming cyclist; Suspended sentence for killing cyclist whilst attempting 3-point turn; Driving ban for 84-year old for injuring cyclist but no retest required: road.cc sentencing round-up

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