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driver on phone - via cycling mikey (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Jeremy Vine on 5’s ‘dobbing in drivers’ debate attracts worrying comments; Police release image of cyclist after pedestrian dies in collision; British Cycling redundancies; Cop knocks cyclist off at Portland demo; Welsh 20mph limit + more on the live blog

It’s Friday! Jack Sexty is here to provide your lead live blog coverage today with other members of the team chipping in intermittently…
  • by Jack Sexty
Fri, Jul 17, 2020 08:49
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SUMMARY

  • The ultimate Strava Local Legend scalp
  • 'Virtual' RideLondon announced for 15-16 August, encouraging participants to ride event distances on their local roads
  • Wales moves closer to introducing 20mph speed limit on residential roads
  • US: Cop knocks cyclist off his bike amid huge Portland protests
  • Britain's worst bike rack?
  • Jeremy Vine On 5's 'dobbing in drivers' Twitter post makes for worrying reading
  • Peter Sagan gets ready for the Giro with a spot of opera singing
  • Bahrain McClaren switch to tan wall Continental Grand Prix 5000's for training rides
  • Jersey passes amendment to give cyclists and walkers legal priority on island's Green Lanes network
  • Pointless but impressive lockdown project number 456,678: a bike on F1 wheels
  • British Cycling have their say on Jeremy Vine on 5's camera cyclist question
  • British Cycling announce up to 31 redundancies in latest COVID-19 impact update
  • British Cycling announcement: all 2020 events will now be 'non-ranking'
  • Met Police release CCTV image of cyclist after pedestrian died following collision
driver on phone – via cycling mikey.PNG
driver on phone - via cycling mikey (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
17 July 2020, 08:49

The ultimate Strava Local Legend scalp

shagger's alley - via strava.JPG
shagger's alley - via strava (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
shagger's alley - via strava.JPG
shagger's alley – via strava (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Strava’s new feature awards those who have completed a segment the most over a 90 day period – and what could be better than claiming the crown for Shagger’s Alley? A big chapeau to you, Mr Crook…

17 July 2020, 08:49

'Virtual' RideLondon announced for 15-16 August, encouraging participants to ride event distances on their local roads

ridelondon
ridelondon (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
ridelondon
ridelondon (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

To salvage some of the huge fundraising cash that would have gone towards charities over the RideLondon weekend, organisers are encouraging those who would have done the event to cycle one of the distances “from wherever they are in the world”. Participants simply sign up for the free event, select the length of their challenge (100 miles, 46 miles, 19 miles or ‘FreeCycle’) and then take part in the ride at any time over the weekend of 15-16 August. An app will be provided that includes a GPS tracker so participants’ friends and family can follow them, plus a direct donation button for the participant’s chosen charity. 

RideLondon say the event was created to generate some much-needed funds for charities, as the charity sector has been decimated by COVID-19. They say there is a £10 billion funding gap in the sector as a whole, thousands of staff are on furlough and one in 10 charities are facing bankruptcy.

Event Director Hugh Brasher commented: “After the disappointment of the cancellation of Prudential RideLondon, we were determined to create something special for our riders, partners and the hundreds of charities that rely on the event for vital income.

“My Prudential RideLondon is building on the success of The 2.6 Challenge – created following the postponement of the London Marathon – which became the biggest collective fundraising effort in the world involving nearly 4,000 charities.

“Charities desperately need help to continue to provide vital services to every sector of society and fund critical research. In this socially-distanced world, it’s also vitally important to encourage people to get on two wheels rather than use public transport. The My Prudential RideLondon campaign has been created to achieve both these aims.

“My Prudential RideLondon is completely free and offers a fundraising challenge for everyone, whether that’s an amateur rider doing 100 miles or a family enjoying a 1km bike ride together. It can be done wherever you are and at any time on 15 or 16 August. Whatever you do, we urge you to raise funds for a charity of your choice – and have fun!”

You can sign up to the Virtual RideLondon here. 

17 July 2020, 08:49

Wales moves closer to introducing 20mph speed limit on residential roads

20mph sign (CC licensed by EdinburghGreens via Flickr)
20mph sign (CC licensed by EdinburghGreens via Flickr) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
20mph sign (CC licensed by EdinburghGreens via Flickr)
20mph sign (CC licensed by EdinburghGreens via Flickr) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Wales could become the first country in the world to reduce speed limits from 30mph to 20mph as a default on local streets, and the plan has already received an initial backing in the Senedd. A Task Force Group report cites “overwhelming evidence lower speeds result in fewer collisions and a reduced severity of injuries”. The report also mentions that increased walking and cycling is an important policy goal of the Welsh Government, saying: “Slower traffic speeds are an important way of reducing people’s perception of road danger thus encouraging more people to walk and cycle.” 

if the plans go ahead then the Welsh Government will make the changes by 2023. It’s proved divisive on social media, with some comments making for rather depressing reading… 

I do 30-35 in a 30, if they put it to 20, I’m going to do 40. Will get to the point where cyclists will be beating me to my location. No point in paying all these costs to drive in the first place for fucks sake. 20mph slower than a 50cc moped 👍🏻

— lee chapman (@bluebird4life88) July 16, 2020

Well hopefully then you’ll be caught and loose your licence 👍🏻

— Gareth Jones (@GJ_9) July 17, 2020

17 July 2020, 08:49

US: Cop knocks cyclist off his bike amid huge Portland protests

WATCH – Portland Police officers knock a protester off of his bicycle and arrest him outside of Lownsdale Square Park near the Federal Courthouse downtown #LiveOnK2 pic.twitter.com/tow0GzeyzW

— Dan McCarthy (@DanMcKATU) July 16, 2020

The latest example of alleged police brutality from the states comes amid huge demonstrations in Portland, Oregon, as the footage shows a cyclist being knocked to the ground before another five officers rush over to assist. 

Longer clip. This was part of a Facebook Live I was shooting.
Prior to the tackle, the bicyclist was riding up SW 4th in downtown Portland, when an officer made a move towards him.
When he turned back down the street- they took him down.
We’ve reached out to PPB for more info pic.twitter.com/a9NXixKMhF

— Dan McCarthy (@DanMcKATU) July 16, 2020

Some on social media are questioning why the officers used heavy force; however in the longer clip above, Dan McCarthy of KATU News says the cyclist was riding back down a street the other way because an officer previously “made a move towards him”. The cyclist has now been identified as Brandon Thomas, according to KATU News, and Portland Police Bureau said he was arrested for interfering with a police officer and disorderly conduct. The incident was also referred to PPB’s Professional Standards Division.

17 July 2020, 08:49

Britain's worst bike rack?

So much crapness. pic.twitter.com/sVtVtXpcG0

— RossiBike (@RossiTheBossi) July 16, 2020

Where to start? 

17 July 2020, 08:49

Jeremy Vine On 5's 'dobbing in drivers' Twitter post makes for worrying reading

I have bought a dash cam after nearly being killed by a bike. Swerving to avoid a hole in the road I had to swerve to miss him and nearly had a head on collision, as he drove off into the sunset totally unaware.

— Mark from Stockport (@marktay13350168) July 17, 2020

How was the man on his fone doing anything wrong?. He was in a traffic jam at a stand still. He wasn’t driving. I’ve done the same..

— tracy (@tracy19114619) July 17, 2020

Perhaps they should receive the kind support of the “fist of friendship”… They’re breaching GDPR rules and deserve a good kicking!!! 💩💩💩

— Patrick McCarthy (@McCarthaigh1953) July 17, 2020

Dob? If I see one cyclist
Not wearing a safety helmet. Or high viz. Run a red light. Not have lights on bikes. Then I will seek pleasure in annoying them and grassing them in

— Andrew Meldrum (@AndrewMeldrum16) July 17, 2020

The Channel 5 show, hosted by cycle-friendly broadcaster Jeremy Vine, was this morning discussing camera cyclists “dobbing in drivers”, after well-known YouTuber CycleGaz recently announced he had amassed £20,000 in fines through his reporting to the police. Viewers were also shown a clip from another well-known camera cyclists CyclingMikey, where a driver is caught using their phone at the wheel. It’s fair to say not everyone who replied to the thread above agrees with their actions, and come up with increasingly nonsensical reasons for this. Perhaps Patrick McCarthy needs a light refresher on what GDPR is, and we’re thinking that Andrew Meldrum might be disappointed if he reports a cyclist for not wearing a helmet or high-vis…  

What do you think, are CycleGaz and Cycling Mikey doing us a useful public service, or are they infringing upon the rights of people who should be free to use their phones while driving without fear of being snitched on? (Yes, that is a leading question). 

17 July 2020, 08:49

Peter Sagan gets ready for the Giro with a spot of opera singing

It’s going to be his first Giro d’Italia, and the organisers seem keen to promote the Slovakian as the star of the show judging by the number of cheesy ads he’s starring in. The latest sees Sagan “demonstrating the expert he has become in Italy” by taking to the stage for a spot of opera singing, after already showing us his expertise in Italian cooking and fashion. 

17 July 2020, 08:49

Bahrain McClaren switch to tan wall Continental Grand Prix 5000's for training rides

Are you using clinchers in training? Or did @BahrainMcLaren get both clincher and tubular versions from @ContiTyres?

— MeridaProRoadRacing (@MeridaProRoad) July 17, 2020

The team have equipped their Meridas with the handsome new special edition tan wall rubber from Continental, made in tribute to the Tour de France. As noted by the Merida Pro Road Racing Twitter account, these were launched as clinchers only… so does that mean the team are training on clinchers, or have Continental made some tubular versions for pros as well? That would make them special edition versions of special edition tyres, as if they weren’t already special enough… in any case, we’ll make some enquiries to see if we can find out. 

17 July 2020, 08:49

Jersey passes amendment to give cyclists and walkers legal priority on island's Green Lanes network

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jersey green lane sign - via wiki commons (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
jersey green lane sign - via wiki commons.Jpg
jersey green lane sign – via wiki commons (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The move will see a full relaunch of Jersey’s Green Lane network, with Deputy Rob Ward saying that the Assembly had been presented “with a great opportunity to keep the momentum on sustainable transport going”, reports the Jersey Evening Post. 

It will mean that non-essential car travel will be banned on some roads, although some Members expressed concerns that the changes would restrict access to some visitors and islanders whose only mode of transport was a car. Infrastructure Minister Kevin Lewis called the move ‘draconian’, saying it would be difficult to police; however Deputy Ward said it will have “a positive impact with the sustainable transport policy without the costs.”

The Green Lane network already has a 15mph speed limit for motor vehicles and drivers are actively discouraged from using the lanes; but this amendment will see it become a prosecutable offence with stricter enforcement. 

17 July 2020, 08:49

Pointless but impressive lockdown project number 456,678: a bike on F1 wheels

Have a couple of spare Pirelli F1 tyres lying around? You could always use them to make a very impressive and very inefficient bicycle like this guy. At least you won’t be needing a kickstand…

17 July 2020, 08:49

British Cycling have their say on Jeremy Vine on 5's camera cyclist question

The fact that people wear helmet cameras is a sad indictment of how safe they feel when riding on the road.

We’d like to see far greater resources given to road policing, so that people wouldn’t need to take matters into their own hands.#ShareTheRoad https://t.co/AzA6DlraX5

— British Cycling (@BritishCycling) July 17, 2020

More policing = less dangerous driving = less need for cyclists wearing helmet cameras to act as a deterrent for bad drivers, according to British Cycling. 

17 July 2020, 08:49

British Cycling announce up to 31 redundancies in latest COVID-19 impact update

British Cycling Logo
British Cycling Logo (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
British Cycling Logo
British Cycling Logo (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A ‘collective consultation process’ has began at British Cycling to make 38 roles redundant, which will affect 31 staff as seven of those roles are already vacant.

CEO Julie Harrington, commented: “This is a decision we would rather not have to make but one we are taking in a measured way and with due care for the well-being of our employees.

“Since March we have furloughed over two-thirds of the workforce under the government’s job retention scheme – a huge team effort which means that many jobs which would have been lost, have been saved.

“Had we not taken those steps then, our situation now would be more severe. However, with income still limited and the likelihood that our sport will continue to be affected into the winter months, we have no other option than to cut costs.

“As a not-for-profit organisation, all revenues we make are invested in cycling and these steps are necessary so that we can continue to deliver on our three strategic priorities – a healthy domestic sport, growing participation, and supporting our most talented riders to achieve their best.”

The announcement also says that British Cycling has submitted their action plan to the government, which lays out a ‘phased return’ process for racing to restart. This would mean that all events other than road racing would start to pick up from 1st August as part of Stage Four of its six-stage plan to resume all cycling activities. There is no set date for progression to Stage Five yet, which would permit a return of all competitive and non-competitive event formats and wider indoor facility access.

17 July 2020, 08:49

British Cycling announcement: all 2020 events will now be 'non-ranking'

Odd Down Masters round 1 - 8 (© Gemma Stephenson)
Odd Down Masters round 1 - 8 (© Gemma Stephenson) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Odd Down Masters round 1 - 8 (© Gemma Stephenson)
Odd Down Masters round 1 – 8 (© Gemma Stephenson) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

If you have a British Cycling race licence, then any races you do manage to take part in will not be point-scoring. British Cycling say: “Following internal and external consultation, British Cycling can also confirm today that events across all disciplines will be designated as non-ranking for the remainder of 2020, or until further notice.

“Given that riders will not be able to claim ranking points, no rider will be moved down a licence category at the end of the year, while those who collected sufficient points to move up a category prior to the suspension of racing in March will be able to retain that higher category. It is hoped that the opportunity to race new formats across a variety of disciplines will encourage many new riders to come and get involved.”

17 July 2020, 08:49

Met Police release CCTV image of cyclist after pedestrian died following collision

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met police appeal CCTV image - 17 july 2020 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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met police appeal CCTV image – 17 july 2020 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Detective Inspector Julie Trodden has appealed to anyone who recognises the man or saw him leaving the scene to call the police, and has also appealed directly to the cyclist involved. The collision occurred on Friday 3 July, and 72-year-old Peter McCombie died in hospital on Saturday 11 July from head injuries sustained in the crash. 

The cyclist didn’t stop at the scene and no arrests have been made. Witnesses or anyone with dashcam footage have been asked to call police on 0208 597 4874 or 101 quoting CAD 5779/03JUL. 

17 July 2020, 08:49

Near Miss of the Day 444: Recurring issue at junctions on shared use path

Near Miss of the Day 444: Recurring issue at junctions on shared use path

Our regular series featuring close passes from around the country - today it's Dorset

17 July 2020, 08:49

Lorry driver who killed cyclist after rolling through give way said he was taught to "progress where possible"

Lorry driver who killed cyclist after rolling through give way said he was taught to "progress where possible"

Driver said he did not see cyclist – possibly because of his truck’s blind spots – but CPS declines to bring charges

17 July 2020, 08:49

Van passenger hit cyclist with stick in unprovoked attack

Van passenger hit cyclist with stick in unprovoked attack

Woman in her sixties left with red mark and bruising

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40 thoughts on “Jeremy Vine on 5’s ‘dobbing in drivers’ debate attracts worrying comments; Police release image of cyclist after pedestrian dies in collision; British Cycling redundancies; Cop knocks cyclist off at Portland demo; Welsh 20mph limit + more on the live blog”

  1. Dao
    July 17, 2020 at 9:39 am
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    lol,  motorists ego is too

    lol,  motorists ego is too bruised to admit cyclists already beat him to his location, so instead he announces to twitter that he actively and regularly breaks the law in regards to speeding and declares his intent to willfully do so once more, should the limit be lowered. classic douche.

     

    In other news, I am pleasantly surprised to find myself LL on not 1 but 6 segments along my weekly commute 😀

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    • Awavey
      July 17, 2020 at 10:26 am
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      Unfortunately,and as
      Unfortunately,and as yesterdays Daily Mail speeding article highlighted people complain even if they are caught speeding,Mr Douche the motorist stands little chance of being caught speeding like that even if he admits, the Welsh police wont have the resources to enforce it,and there is some legal exception around 20mph anyway I think.

      The result is it’s a nice idea,but reality is those that choose to still drive 30-40mph in 20mph zones,have little comeback on them for doing so.

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      • Bungle_52
        July 18, 2020 at 7:28 am
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        It just needs one person

        It just needs one person doing 20 to slow everyone else up. Once they see that the effect on their journey times is minimal then behaviour may start to change. Whatever, having 20 areas can’t do any harm.

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    • RobD
      July 17, 2020 at 11:15 am
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      Just sums up the

      Just sums up the simplemindedness of a large number of drivers, they see speed limits as a guideline (his open admission to doing 30-35 which I’m sure is likely higher as well) none of them seem to realise that the faster they go the more quickly they go, the sooner they get to the next bit of traffic/road furniture etc that will slow them down, will also mean everyone brakes harder, causing more congestion than everyone rolling through at a more moderate pace.

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  2. mdavidford
    July 17, 2020 at 9:41 am
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    Annoyingly, the virtual

    Annoyingly, the virtual RideLondon thing doesn’t appear to have any option for genuinely virtual rides. My plan was to ride the actual route virtually, on the trainer, but they don’t seem to have thought of that as an option.

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    • mdavidford
      July 24, 2020 at 8:17 am
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      From their ‘factpack’:

      From their ‘factpack’:

      Helmets are a requirement to take part in the events

      Not quite sure how they intend to enforce that in a virtual, self-led event…

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  3. Mungecrundle
    July 17, 2020 at 10:21 am
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    Those American cops are
    Those American cops are lawless thugs. Not sure what the cyclist did to provoke such a brutal response but looked like he was inches away from getting his head smashed into the lamp stanchion.

    I am still amazed given the easy access to military spec weapons in the USA that there have not been more killings at these events on both sides.

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    • eburtthebike
      July 17, 2020 at 11:20 am
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      Mungecrundle wrote:

      Those American cops are lawless thugs. Not sure what the cyclist did to provoke such a brutal response but looked like he was inches away from getting his head smashed into the lamp stanchion.

      — Mungecrundle

      Brutal and almost certainly illegal.  I hope this results in prosecution for excessive force and illegal arrest.

      I’m wondering how being knocked off your bike, which you appear to be riding perfectly legally, can end up with a charge of  “interfering with a police officer and disorderly conduct.”

      A bit like being arrested for assaulting a policeman’s fist with your face.

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      • Dangerous Dan
        July 17, 2020 at 4:02 pm
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        Ted Wheeler, the mayor of

        Ted Wheeler, the mayor of Portland Oregon, is certainly from the left wing of American politics.  Sort of the Corporate Lefty type. You know them; the folks with the old school ties who work for big banks and were solid “Remainers” and want a massive welfare state for those poor souls who didn’t go to Stanford and Columbia and Harvard.

        The man in question was arrested because he was refusing to leave the park which Wheeler had ordered closed.  So let me quote HizOnnerT’Mayor Ted Wheeler as to why he issued the order to clear out those parks:

        “Portland’s parks belong to everyone. As their stewards, we have a responsibility to ensure they are healthy, open and accessible to our community, and that they are safe,” Wheeler said. “Portland Parks and Recreation employees must be able to access amenities and facilities for repair and maintenance to ensure that we can continue to enjoy nature and gather peacefully. But instead, some are using our parks as a staging ground to damage public infrastructure, art, and park assets. We do not condone or tolerate this behavior.”

        I am all for allowing peaceful protest.  I think the law enforcement in the US needs to change. But roasting a statue of a Wapati (American Elk) just because, what ever, is not peaceful protest.

        Looting the “Apple Store” is not peaceful protest. Spray painting “Fuck the Police” everywhere you can reach is not peaceful protest.  And attacking the courthouse and jail is not peaceful protest.

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        • mdavidford
          July 17, 2020 at 4:27 pm
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          I’m not clear what any of

          I’m not clear what any of those examples have to do with riding a bike up and down the street though? As forms of protest go, that seems exceptionally peaceful, and certainly not deserving of being lumped into a lamppost.

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        • eburtthebike
          July 17, 2020 at 5:07 pm
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          Dangerous Dan wrote:

          Thanks for your opinion Dan.  Maybe next time you could make it vaguely relevant?

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          • Dangerous Dan
            July 17, 2020 at 8:12 pm
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            OK Burt.  Here it is…

            OK Burt.  Here it is… translated into language you can understand.

            If you are involved in a riot, and there is a lawfully given order to disperse, the fact that you are riding a bicycle doesn’t mean that you are not subject to arrest.  And if you don’t stop when directed to do so, you are probably going to get hurt.

            The person on the bike was not just riding by.  He was involved in the riot.  By a lawful declaration of the mayor, just being there meant that he was subject to arrest.

          • Secret_squirrel
            July 17, 2020 at 9:03 pm
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            Funny definition of “involved

            Funny definition of “involved in a riot” you and the Septics have. Bit like their definition of grounds for shooting include people asleep in beds and in cars.

          • Rome73
            July 18, 2020 at 7:05 am
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            Perhaps he was ‘dispersing’

            Perhaps he was ‘dispersing’ trying to get away as ordered but in fact couldn’t because he had to swerve to avoid assault by an officer – until five of them took him down. 

          • hawkinspeter
            July 18, 2020 at 11:29 am
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            Dangerous Dan wrote:

            OK Burt.  Here it is… translated into language you can understand.

            If you are involved in a riot, and there is a lawfully given order to disperse, the fact that you are riding a bicycle doesn’t mean that you are not subject to arrest.  And if you don’t stop when directed to do so, you are probably going to get hurt.

            The person on the bike was not just riding by.  He was involved in the riot.  By a lawful declaration of the mayor, just being there meant that he was subject to arrest.

            — Dangerous Dan

            That’s confused me.

            So he was given an order to disperse and directed to stop? Which was he supposed to obey to avoid getting hurt?

          • Mungecrundle
            July 18, 2020 at 12:42 pm
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            Even if Brandon Thomas was
            Even if Brandon Thomas was engaging in an, as far as the video shows, passive act of defiance against a lawful order to disperse. How can you justify the extreme brutality and reckless disregard for potential serious injury during the arrest?

            At what point does lawful enforcement become Police brutality in your world view?

          • Velo-drone
            July 18, 2020 at 9:31 pm
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            I don’t think that an order
            I don’t think that an order to disperse means what you think it does.

            First of all, it only applies to groups – specifically for 4 or more people. If you are not in a group of 4 or more people you cannot be lawfully ordered to disperse.

            If you are one person by themselves, you cannot legally be ordered to disperse – nor would it have any meaning if you could, because it means to separate and go in different ways.

            One guy riding a bike up and down a street cannot legally or logically be ordered to disperse.

        • Rome73
          July 18, 2020 at 7:07 am
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          It’s ‘fuck da police’ 

          It’s ‘fuck da police’ 

          get relevant f flips sake. 

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  4. I love my bike
    July 17, 2020 at 10:37 am
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    As ever, unfortunately it’s

    As ever, unfortunately it’s not the putting up 20mph speed limit signs that will magically slow drivers down to at or below the new speed limit. (86% of cars exceeded the 20mph speed limit (DoT stats GB 2017)).

    The hard bit is making drivers feel that they shouldn’t be going faster than 20mph.

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    • Doctor Darabuka
      July 17, 2020 at 12:53 pm
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      It would be interesting to

      It would be interesting to know what would be the most cost-effective in reducing motor vehicle speeds – spending on enforcing the 30mph limit or spending on 20mph signs.

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  5. mdavidford
    July 17, 2020 at 10:58 am
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    At least every one of those

    At least every one of those tweets has a string of replies uniformly telling them what idiots they are.

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    • brooksby
      July 17, 2020 at 12:29 pm
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      Certainly the ones

      Certainly the ones screenshotted above all seem to be demonstrating either a lack of knowledge of road traffic law and/or that the tweeter is a rubbish driver…

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  6. jollygoodvelo
    July 17, 2020 at 11:16 am
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    Given Zwift has the digital

    Given Zwift has the digital London plus Leith Hill and Box Hill for their RideLondon hookup, you’d think they’d be putting on some sort of virtual event.  Perhaps they’ll start publicising it after they’re done with the Tour de France ‘Virtuel’.

    Mind you the ‘PRL Full’ route is far harder than the actual RL100 – something like eleven laps of Box Hill (and doesn’t go up Leith Hill at all).  It would make more sense to do four laps of the ‘Richmond Park’ section, then Leith, back around to Box, and another lap or two of the park to complete the distance.

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  7. Tom_77
    July 17, 2020 at 1:27 pm
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    “You know who made up that

    “You know who made up that ‘never snitch’ bullshit?

    People who probably deserved to be snitched on.”

     

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  8. mdavidford
    July 17, 2020 at 1:45 pm
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    Quite fancy an F1 bike. What

    Quite fancy an F1 bike. What PSI would you run those at.

    Also, what on earth was he doing to that seatpost?

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    • Awavey
      July 17, 2020 at 1:54 pm
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      Not as much as youd think
      Not as much as youd think roughly around 21psi,but they use nitrogen as it’s more stable with temp changes and doesnt leak through the tyre. But does anyone think it’s not a fat bike, but a Chris Nolan style Bat bike ?

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    • brooksby
      July 18, 2020 at 10:42 am
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      I keep finding myself humming

      I keep finding myself humming the theme from The Flintstones…

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  9. brooksby
    July 17, 2020 at 3:37 pm
    0

    Hang on – so Mr McCombie was

    Not a great picture if you are actually trying to identify someone…

     

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    • eburtthebike
      July 17, 2020 at 6:46 pm
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      brooksby wrote:

      Not a great picture if you are actually trying to identify someone…

      — brooksby

      I wouldn’t even hazard a guess at the gender.

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      • brooksby
        July 17, 2020 at 7:26 pm
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        I’m pretty sure its a human

        I’m pretty sure its a human on a bicycle, but beyond that…?

        (Actually looks most like that Spanish fresco of Christ that got restored by a little old lady who had enthusiasm but no skill)

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        • Sriracha
          July 17, 2020 at 8:35 pm
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          Derailleur equipped bike with
          Derailleur equipped bike with water bottle and stripes around down tube, max seat post extension (maybe a tall person), cyclist in dark clothes (no hi-viz!) and white trainers, white left arm cuff, possibly a dark face mask or beard, cyclist came home flustered. I reckon if you knew the person you’d recognise them in the image, even if the other way around is unlikely. Looks male to me.

          Alternatively, just “enhance”

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          • brooksby
            July 18, 2020 at 10:42 am
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            Sriracha wrote:

            Derailleur equipped bike with water bottle and stripes around down tube, max seat post extension (maybe a tall person), cyclist in dark clothes (no hi-viz!) and white trainers, white left arm cuff, possibly a dark face mask or beard, cyclist came home flustered. I reckon if you knew the person you’d recognise them in the image, even if the other way around is unlikely. Looks male to me. Alternatively, just “enhance” https://youtu.be/Vxq9yj2pVWk

            — Sriracha

            Haven’t looked at the YouTube clip, but you know CSI wasn’t real, right? 😉

  10. bikeman01
    July 17, 2020 at 7:30 pm
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    20mph limits are supposed to

    20mph limits are supposed to be self enforcing i.e. 90th percenticle of vehicles do not exceed the limit without enforcement.

    Still getting that ajax error in chrome when trying to reply to or quote previous posts.

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  11. Rome73
    July 18, 2020 at 6:59 am
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    For the ‘land of the free’,

    For the ‘land of the free’, the US doesn’t half have some scary looking law enforcement. 

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  12. ktache
    July 19, 2020 at 8:21 am
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    Article apperaing in what

    Article apperaing in what must be today’s Observer about Sustrans reducing the National Cycle Network.  (by someone called Laura Laker)

    https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/jul/19/national-cycle-network-sustrans-cuts-quarter-uk-routes-safety-grounds 

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    • hawkinspeter
      July 19, 2020 at 8:49 am
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      The link’s got some trailing

      The link’s got some trailing characters – should be: https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/jul/19/national-cycle-network-sustrans-cuts-quarter-uk-routes-safety-grounds

      It’s about time they stop pretending that a bit of paint on a road is a National Cycle Network but I fear that they’ve already damaged their image with so many substandard paths.

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      • ktache
        July 19, 2020 at 8:51 am
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        Cheers HP, should have

        Cheers HP, should have checked, bit early in the morning.

        I’m guessing that it is ultimately a good thing, though short term shortening might be slightly problematic and maybe some sections not joining up.  Hopefully better quality bits will be added.

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        • mdavidford
          July 19, 2020 at 11:59 am
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          I can see the argument that

          I can see the argument that they don’t want to unexpectedly lead users out onto sections that might be busier than they’re comfortable with, but can’t help thinking that there must be a more creative way to address the issue than just chopping them out and breaking up the network. Surely it should be possible to update signage and mapping to indicate where those sections are and which destinations can be accessed without them, so that people can make their own mind up about whether to use them or not?

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          • hawkinspeter
            July 19, 2020 at 12:28 pm
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            The problem is that leaving

            The problem is that leaving the sub-standard sections as they stand means that there’s much less incentive to improve them. If politicians can boast about the miles of national cycle network linking up towns, then people will think that we’re further along with alternative travel than we actually are. Also, people will follow a NCN route because they think it will be suitable for e.g. family use and then they just get dumped onto a standard road.

            If you’re happy to use roads (as I am), then you’re less likely to be using the cycle routes. Personally I try to avoid shared paths when it’s nice weather as they quickly get filled up with peds and cyclists – I’d rather use the roads and go a bit quicker without having to slow down every few metres.

          • mdavidford
            July 19, 2020 at 1:14 pm
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            I’m not saying that they

            I’m not saying that they should be left as they stand, though. I think it should be possible to devise signage that puts a big health warning on them – maybe signing them as an ‘unadopted link’ or something – that makes it clear that they’re not recommended for less confident users, while still offering an option for the more confident to access the next bit of reasonable quality route.

            I think Sustrans have always had a bit of a confusion of mission as to whether they’re building a network for transport or leisure use. In one way this decision could be good in that it effectively focuses them on the latter, but they need to then be honest with themselves and admit that they’re not building a network to enable commuting and other functional journeys.

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Tradescant 36 minutes ago

@jackcycles I'm not sure my grandchildren got that memo. Cycling should not be just for hardened road warriors.

in: “The car park has been there for 30 years”: Car boot sale given go-ahead despite safety concerns over “high speed” cyclists on new bike path
DS2025 1 hour ago

Chrisonabike There are a number of police forces in England and Wales that are using portable testing equipment already... How effective it is another matter, I haven't looked into the results of failing (I would hope they just seize and crush the motorbike without any faff but I am sure there are appeal processes, promises not to use them on public roads etc).

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KiwiMike 1 hour ago

Woah there - a precision-engineered European-made product, with unparalleled adaptability, is somehow a ‘rip off’? Compared to what - Temu? As per the article, most quality through-axles go for £50-60+, but aren’t adaptable and don’t provide any stand or trailer capability. If you want to balance your £3-4-5k suspension or carbon bike, or bikepacking setup on a budget product subject to highly focused stresses, fair play. Cycling’s a broad church.

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Dnnnnnn 1 hour ago

@eburtthebike I've found Spanish drivers to be almost entirely excellent around cyclists.

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neilmck 2 hours ago

I agree, the study was made after cycle paths that had been introduced in Berlin during the 70’s and 80’s caused a big increase in cycling deaths. It is an interesting study for cyclists to read in order to know what dangers exist at badly designed junctions. Here in Paris we have very few bi-directional paths. The ones I have cycled on have no building entrances or courtyards (so no cars crossing the path) and every junction is traffic lights to prevent accidents.

in: “The car park has been there for 30 years”: Car boot sale given go-ahead despite safety concerns over “high speed” cyclists on new bike path
thrawed 2 hours ago

We have enough regulation. They're running a motorbike without insurance/registration and possibly without a licence, and the punishment for being caught with all that is pretty severe already. The problem is lack of enforcement.

in: I was hit by an illegal e-biker who ran a red light. Tougher regulation can’t come soon enough
chrisonabike 3 hours ago

In my experience with anything less than one of those serious mid-bike two-foot kickstands, a wall / tree / hedge is the better option, or the bike will sometimes show you the alternative and lie down by itself. Maybe I've got panniers that are just too large and the wrong balance of (too much) cargo though? And of course Edinburgh streets are great at funneling gusts of wind...

in: Steady Ride Universal Thru Axle Kids/Cargo
chrisonabike 3 hours ago

I agree there's a clear legal line * but I do see something here. Like much tech it's entirely opaque from the outside (without even invoking things like the VW emissions cheating).** I know in NL they have trialled semi-portable "test stations" to check max motor speeds. However with the latest "but there's no money" crisis I can't see that over here. Indeed it's hard to see the police being motivated to do any more roads policing, with this even further down the priority list. Hope I'm wrong... While I guess many of us *would* be fine with EAPCs as a means to attract "non-cyclists" ... perhaps there's an "attractive nuisance" element to this? We're ushering people into an apparently effortless, easy and minimal consequence mobility mode without the "learning experience" of managing a lighter, unpowered machine on roads. And it's still (busy) *roads* where the new power-assisted riders will often find themselves. Not like in more advanced countries where people usually cycle in much safer and more controlled environments. OTOH we should always balance such concerns against "but cars and full-power ICE motorbikes now" though! Number plates, licences and insurance aren't necessarily mitigating that well... * As soon as there are laws games will be played. How long can you be above the "continuous rate power" for? Can we have *multiple* legal motors on one machine? ** Is the power / speed actually regulated by software, and how long will that keep a child armed with the internet from unlocking it?

in: I was hit by an illegal e-biker who ran a red light. Tougher regulation can’t come soon enough
Zazz53 3 hours ago

And maybe a planning obligation to have traffic Marshalls controlling access out of the site not obstructing the path and restricting it if cyclists are likely to be obstructed …one can hope

in: “The car park has been there for 30 years”: Car boot sale given go-ahead despite safety concerns over “high speed” cyclists on new bike path
Bob Sprocket 4 hours ago

I'll stick to my low rider with Karrimor Kalahari dry bag panniers and Karrimor Kalahari barbag thanks.

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