A Conservative peer has said that cyclists are “longing” to be run down and that campaigns to protect cyclists are “creating a new and separate society” that will lead to “catastrophic accidents”.
Lord James of Blackheath was speaking in a House of Lords debate on a bill to tackle littering from cars. He said that the bill did not go far enough in dealing with anti-social behaviour on the roads and suggested it be extended to deal with cyclists taking photographs of traffic.
The 75-year-old said: “The Times is pursuing, to a ludicrous degree, the cause of cyclists to the point where they are creating a new and separate society in London, in which cyclists think they have a superior law and control over everybody in a motor car.
“This is going to lead to some catastrophic accidents very soon.”
The particular manifestation of this that concerns Lord James seems to be cyclists taking photographs of drivers.
He said: “On three mornings, driving up the A3 in the Balham and Clapham area, I have seen cyclists put their cycles up against the central reservation — not the line where the bus lane is — stand in the middle of the road with a camera and defy you to run them down while they photograph you doing it.
“That is what they are longing for.
“We need to have that sort of behaviour excluded because it is going to lead to their demise and our prosecution: it is ridiculous.”
Lord James, a City businessman, has something of a reputation for bringing unusual subjects to the attention of the House of Lords. In 2010 he claimed that a mysterious ultrarich organisation known as Foundation X was willing to back the UK's recovery with huge interest-free loans, and in 2012 he claimed to have uncovered a massive $15 trillion money-laundering fraud from the United States Federal Reserve.
Another scourge of our times is also close to Lord James’ heart: the behaviour of schoolchildren in buses.
He had persuaded his wife to accompany him to Twickenham to watch the rugby and she had been “horrified” to see “school buses coming down the road full of children indulging in a pastime which is, I believe, called mooning.”
“The sight of some 40 children mooning simultaneously is not a pretty one.”
While Lord James did not say how he would punish cyclists taking photos or children displaying their bare bottoms, he said that his wife, a youth justice officer, watched motorbike police driving past the kids and said: “We have a law against this sort of thing. Why are they not being brought into court? I would put them away for a year if I got them.”

62 thoughts on “Cyclists are “longing” to be run down, says peer”
If i ever come across this
If i ever come across this guy i’m going out of my way to moon him
karlowen wrote:If i ever come
Remember to do so whilst standing on a central reservation with your bike taking a picture of him.
This man is clearly
=))
This man is clearly delusional
This guy is a one-man walking
This guy is a one-man walking advertisement of why we need House of Lords reform!
Hmm. After long and careful
Hmm. After long and careful consideration, I think we have three options here: Lord James is as mad as:
a) a fish
b) a fruitcake
c) a box of spanners
Postcards to House of Lords, Abingdon Street, London SW1A 0AA.
$15 trillion you say? There
$15 trillion you say? There might be something in it!
“On three mornings, driving
Where to start with this one.
The A3 doesn’t run through Balham.
The A24 through Balham doesn’t have a central reservation.
The A3 through Clapham doesn’t have a central reservation (the central reservation stops before Wandsworth).
I’ve never seen anyone standing in the middle of the road with a camera.
I think the nobel Lord may need to viist his GP for a check up.
Quote:
Where to start with
Details, details. Personally, I’m desperate to be run over.
Perfect example of why the
Perfect example of why the House of Lords is not fit for purpose.
anyuser wrote:Perfect example
In fairness, the HoL can be an excellent body for scrutiny on a number of issues. The problem comes when we get debates like this, and it really does show just how stuck in the past too many of its members are.
Quote:“That is what they are
Yes – they’re ‘longing’ to suffer serious injury and death.
Another cretin who thinks that hitting a cyclist is nothing more than a slight inconvenience to the cyclist rather than a life-altering incident.
started reading this
started reading this expecting to be angry and ended up have a right laugh, thanks Lord James =D>
I was a bit concerend when I
I was a bit concerend when I read the or as of in this sentence…
“While Lord James did not say how he would punish cyclists taking photos or children displaying their bare bottoms”
mckechan wrote:I was a bit
Did he attend a private school in the bad old days? it might explain some of his attitudes.
I think a twitter campaign against this twit might make him realise the power of democracy.
complete nutter. Out of
complete nutter. Out of touch. Why give him airtime?
I’m refusing to get angry like I’m expected to, this guy’s a joke
I wonder if they made him
I wonder if they made him remove his tin foil hat at the door of the House of Lords?
I particularly like his comment that cyclists defy him to run them over which is ridiculous as it would lead to his prosecution…he clearly hasn’t ever read anything about the CPS in this country.
And the winner of “Cockwomble
And the winner of “Cockwomble of the Week” in the face of some *very* stiff competition…..
And the winner of “Cockwomble
And the winner of “Cockwomble of the Week” in the face of some *very* stiff competition…..
House of Lords debate on a
House of Lords debate on a bill to tackle littering from cars.
And there was me thinking that we had laws against littering already 😕
There they go again, making motorists think they’re a special case. Surely there are more pressing things they could be debating?
NB. Environmental Protection Act 1990
Sect 87 1)A person is guilty of an offence if he throws down, drops or otherwise deposits any litter in any place to which this section applies and leaves it.
(2)This section applies to any place in the area of a principal litter authority which is open to the air,
If he’s like this with
If he’s like this with mooning, how would he react to a pressed ham with gravy?
Perhaps they were only
Perhaps they were only mooning when they recognised someone deserving of it 😀
Take heart, my fellow
Take heart, my fellow cyclists.
These comments just add to the growing evidence that cyclists with cameras are having an effect on drivers which, though they might find the prospect of an awkward appearance on Youtube a little irksome, may well be the trigger for major improvements in driver behaviour.
And, although I’m sure that the noble lord’s driving record is exemplary, he will now no doubt be keen to avoid doing a “Kate Hoey”.
Neil753 wrote:Take heart, my
What evidence is that? Real or anecdotal? Besides I think you’re over optimistic on that front, the next step in the arms race is that more drivers start installing cameras and we are inundated with youtube clips of crap and illegal cycling – which I guarantee will get a lot of media exposure. Nobody wins
joemmo wrote:Neil753
What evidence is that? Real or anecdotal? Besides I think you’re over optimistic on that front, the next step in the arms race is that more drivers start installing cameras and we are inundated with youtube clips of crap and illegal cycling – which I guarantee will get a lot of media exposure. Nobody wins— Neil753
I’ve seen several videos and reports of drivers modifying their behaviour once they “spot the camera”. I suspect that a growing number of drivers are becoming aware of the recent successful prosecutions resulting from camera evidence. Certainly those drivers who have spotted themselves on Youtube will also no doubt be keen to drive more carefully in future.
As far as cameras used by drivers are concerned, many of us use them already. In my artic I have two.
Oh dear grandad how did you
Oh dear grandad how did you get out from the home this time ? Let’s get you back to your safe place away from normal sensible society.
usedtobefaster wrote: Let’s
Hang on he was already in the House of Lords 😀
I think he should leave
I think he should leave comment about cyclists to one side and dig deeper into the possible massive fraud being carried out by US Treasury to the tune of $15trillion that he was raising questions about previously.
zanf wrote:I think he should
This is flipping amazing. The guy’s a total loon. He’s also a terrible public speaker. I can’t work out whether the mumbling and stumbling are related to his touching himself at various points, or if it is unrelated.
stupid comment from an out of
stupid comment from an out of touch mp, peerage obviously improved this guy NOT …
so if this 75 yr old is
so if this 75 yr old is imagining things happening on roads that don’t exist, perhaps there should be a way of taking his licence from him?
I am utterly, utterly
I am utterly, utterly stunned.
A tory peer who is disappointed at seeing young boys arses?
Well I never thought I’d see the day that happened….
farrell wrote:I am utterly,
It didn’t say if they were boys or girls.
I think this is the right
I think this is the right time to quote another policitian, Abraham Lincoln…
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.”
What has this man been
What has this man been snorting!
Mad as a box of frogs.
And
Mad as a box of frogs.
And these people have a say in the country’s legislation ?
What a prize tw4t!
What a prize tw4t!
When you see the house of
When you see the house of lords live, the occupants look as if they have already been run down and no one has picked up the bodies!
just goes to show what all
just goes to show what all that “society” in-breeding can do
doesn’t it !! What acomplete and utter twat !
I was in tears again when I
I was in tears again when I arrived at work this morning, having yet again FAILED to get myself run down.
Oh I do long to be run down, and either leave my family without a father/husband, or spend a long period of time in pain and potentially life-long disability. Lord James it is all I dream of.
When I was a kid and got my first bike, I wrote to Jim’ll Fix It and asked to be run down. Luckily he didn’t reply eh, as I might have been dealing with another type of trauma all together!
I do expose myself to maximum danger by sometimes taking pictures of drivers who are using their phones or jumping red lights, all from the extremely dangerous position of the pavement.
Bless him eh – daft old bugger!
Anyone know where you get
Anyone know where you get these Foundation X interest-free loans from? Need one to buy a helmet cam…
pwake wrote:Anyone know where
Didn’t Foundation X have a massive re branding exercise and now calls itself Wonga ? 🙂
Hmm. There really isn’t a
Hmm. There really isn’t a need for the Monty Python reunion, is there?
I wonder if he is longing for
I wonder if he is longing for a good slap…
This is why we have a House
This is why we have a House of Lords.
london – yawn.
there are bike
london – yawn.
there are bike riders outside of hipster central and most of us are decent folk.
Simmo72 wrote:london –
yawn, predictable ignorant comment.
There speaks a peer who’s
There speaks a peer who’s never had several inches of skin removed thanks to a car assisted slide along the tarmac, eh.
Longing to be run down? The man is a fool.
Sounds like lord James is
Sounds like lord James is longing for some conflict on th road. Typical conservative scum, hasn’t got a clue about real life
He so looks like Penrose. But
He so looks like Penrose. But like most, nay ALL, Tory peers he is a @~#%ing Arse!
He should be apologising for the 6 deaths in 2 weeks, for which his mob are responsible. Why are his ilk responsible? Well, way back in the 80’s Thatcher decided Cars were the aspirational form of transport for the new middle class and public transport was a waste of money and faintly socialist.
So now most UK families have 2 or more cars, the roads are crammed full with traffic all eager to get from A to B as fast as possible, the streets are no more than car parks and are unsafe for Kids to play in and drivers have become ever more selfish with no desire to relinquish their freedom to drive.
I don’t wish to make this too political as all governments often fail to predict the consequences of their decisions but the Tory governments of the 80’s & 90’s set us on the road to disaster (no pun intended). That’s where we are right now. It will take something as radical as Thatchers idea of promoting the car to redress the imbalance but I’m not sure Lib, Lab or Con are that interested.
Care in the community ….
Care in the community …. does not work! The evidence is clear! I think he needs locking up where he can ramble on to himself in peace
Its a shame Fat Pat is no
Its a shame Fat Pat is no longer running the UCI – I’m sure he could have found the noble Lord a senior position! 👿
Poor choice of
Poor choice of adjective.
Longing to be run down, or dying to be?
History has shown that there is an inevitable progression in society to address inequalities that exist in how different groups are treated – gender, race, sexuality.
Given enough time, the steps that need to be taken to address the clear inequality that exists on the road to make cycling safe will be taken. This is inevitable.
“Flat earthers” like this chap and their comments and attitudes just make this process take longer.
We have 5 billion years until the sun swallows the earth so I am confident we will make cycling safe and accessible for all in the long run, but with people like this around it might be a closer run thing than I hoped.
75 years old.. He possibly
75 years old.. He possibly hasn’t got long working as a peer. Out spoken out of touch and inappropriate. “Cyclist have a superior law and control” wow what a tosser. Sorry but get real Lord twit get out your Jag in live with the tax payers supporting your lavish spoilt lifestyle.
“We have a law against this sort of thing. Why are they not being brought into court?”
And we have laws to sort out poor driving. Perhaps next time I go to a local major junction with traffic lights I’ll take me camera and take an hours worth of red light jumpers…..say no more.
“This is going to lead to
“This is going to lead to some catastrophic accidents very soon.”
Oh and it hasn’t yet.
My thoughts are with the 13 cyclist virtually murdered in the last fortnight.
He’s clearly spent too long
He’s clearly spent too long in the company of taxi drivers as it seems that’s where he gets his opinions…
There really needs to be some
There really needs to be some sort of legislative proficiency test that people need to pass before being allowed to run amok in the Lords. Being able to speak coherently, knowing what year it is and what planet you are on, distinguishing arse from elbow, that sort of thing.
Just to be clear that this
Just to be clear that this debate/bill wasn’t even needed in the first place:
Though doing more research,
Though doing more research, it was an amendment aiming to replace a criminal offence where it must be proven who it was littered to a civil one where the registered keeper can be prosecuted regardless.
The most beautiful bit though
The most beautiful bit though is the total dismissal of Lord James’ intervention. Read here: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201314/ldhansrd/text/131120-0001.htm#13112089000427
Translated: Lord James is spouting insane nonsense, but we’re going to be polite and not call him out on his lunacy. Moving on…
[[[ “75 year old Lord
[[[ “75 year old Lord James”—that’s a misprint. He is in fact 7 years old, i.e. in his second childhood.
P.R.
From the look of him, I would
From the look of him, I would suggest that if he continues his own lifestyle it could be considered that he is ‘longing’ for a massive heart failure…
I wouldn’t bother getting too
I wouldn’t bother getting too irate about this old buffoon. I heard him on the radio the other day and he was practically a parody – i don’t think even he was taking himself seriously!