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Police spokesperson says cyclist was given advice about his conduct

Last week we asked whether a cyclist who featured in a recent YouTube video was right to lecture a motorist who he believed had endangered him after she overtook him then turned left into a branch of Lidl. The general feeling was that he wasn’t and it seems Sussex Police agree with that view.

The video in question has since been removed from YouTube but can still be seen on the Eastbourne and Herald website. You can judge for yourself whether it was that bad an overtake and whether he the cyclist was justified in following the driver into the car park to take her to task for her poor driving.

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A spokesperson at Sussex Police said on Monday: “A cyclist whose altercation with a woman in Eastbourne was captured on video and posted on social media has been spoken to by police. He voluntarily attended a police station and was given words of advice about his conduct.”

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mrmo [2094 posts] 1 year ago
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whilst it might be right that the police dealt with this in an ideal world, i do wonder if they would have done anything if it was the other way round? 

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Chuck [588 posts] 1 year ago
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mrmo wrote:

whilst it might be right that the police dealt with this in an ideal world, i do wonder if they would have done anything if it was the other way round? 

+1

 

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Bobbinogs [250 posts] 1 year ago
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I wonder if the words of advice were "Don't be such a c0ck"

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MarshalK [7 posts] 1 year ago
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I don't see anything wrong with that, he had loads of space. In this case the cyclist is the dick.

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Podc [84 posts] 1 year ago
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This wasn't a spoof then?  Blimey.

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Beaufort [270 posts] 1 year ago
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Video appears to have been disabled on the newspaper website.

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Bmblbzzz [158 posts] 1 year ago
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No, it's still there, but video is rather jerky. Don't know if that's just my connection, cos the audio is ok. 

 

The guy with the camera is a trouble-seeking dick. She was miles ahead of him when she turned in. And even after she apologises, he carries on ranting at her. 

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schlepcycling [75 posts] 1 year ago
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Bmblbzzz wrote:

The guy with the camera is a trouble-seeking dick. She was miles ahead of him when she turned in. And even after she apologises, he carries on ranting at her. 

All true, but as others have said would the police have spoken to a motorist if the situation was reversed....I doubt it.

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fennesz [151 posts] 1 year ago
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He's a cock.  Or a mentalist.  Regardless, he's a bully.

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bikebot [2119 posts] 1 year ago
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So the Eastbourne Herald is reporting on your original report, and now you're reporting on their report of your report.

Stop it, this is very silly!

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Jonny_Trousers [278 posts] 1 year ago
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Oh dear. Deliberately looking for trouble or a little bit special. 

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Aman Walksintoabar [2 posts] 1 year ago
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The cyclist is an absolute cock.  If that was my wife he was remenstrating with he would be speaking to the Police.  Absolute TWAT!!!  Gives all decent cyclists a bad name.  Take that bike off him and let him for a start...

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EK Spinner [75 posts] 1 year ago
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I only want to comment on the first part of this video, after he enters the car park there is social behaviour/public order discussion to be had. Prior to that is the cycling/driving question and so many people seem to be accepting that the driving was fine because he wasn't knocked off, didn't need to brake heavily or because they see much worse on a redular basis, but none of this makes her driving correct.

She overtook at a point in the road with pedestrian refuge islands, central hatching and a bus stop on the far side of the road. Then she immediatly turned left. Safety issues  on the road are mostly caused by impatience and she was driving impatiently when she overtook.

Please note I am note excusing, justifying or commenting on his actions in the car park after that

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50kcommute [87 posts] 1 year ago
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I've got a suspicious mind - coudl it be he's taken on a false persona in the hope of making daily cyclists look bad???? hmm.

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Chuck [588 posts] 1 year ago
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50kcommute wrote:

I've got a suspicious mind - coudl it be he's taken on a false persona in the hope of making daily cyclists look bad???? hmm.

 

There's no shortage of asshats on bikes (or, of course , anywhere else). Occam's razor says there's no need to invent more!

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FluffyKittenofT... [1792 posts] 1 year ago
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EK Spinner wrote:

I only want to comment on the first part of this video, after he enters the car park there is social behaviour/public order discussion to be had. Prior to that is the cycling/driving question and so many people seem to be accepting that the driving was fine because he wasn't knocked off, didn't need to brake heavily or because they see much worse on a redular basis, but none of this makes her driving correct.

She overtook at a point in the road with pedestrian refuge islands, central hatching and a bus stop on the far side of the road. Then she immediatly turned left. Safety issues  on the road are mostly caused by impatience and she was driving impatiently when she overtook.

Please note I am note excusing, justifying or commenting on his actions in the car park after that

The driving was less-than-perfect, but he completely over-reacted. Which I still find odd, given that if he wanted to get into confrontations he must have no shortage of occasions when he could do so with more justification.

Best I can come up with is that it was delayed anger from some previous incident with someone else when he didn't say anything.

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lorettocourt [15 posts] 1 year ago
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Who the f**k does that prick think he is? Yes the driving was less than perfect but what a massive over-reaction - if someone knows him tell him to have a word with himself - bully!

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DaveE128 [914 posts] 1 year ago
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The manouver perhaps isn't in accordance with highway code rule 167 (DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example: ... stay behind if you are following a cyclist approaching a roundabout or junction, and you intend to turn left) but it was hardly a particularly dangerous example. There isnt really a clear limit on how long before a junction it is ok or not ok to overtake, but I don't think that they were close enough to be a significant risk of coming into conflict... except verbal conflict from this guys' attitude!

Now wide angle lenses do make things look firther away, but this is my opinion of what a dangerous left hook looks like:
https://youtu.be/JK4-cWsK_oY

Note that I did not start an altercation with the driver or even follow them at all. Just got them sent an educational letter from the police via
http://www.operationcrackdown.org/

Given that this was Sussex Police, I'd suggest that this is what the cyclist should have done, whether or not it was actually a bit close.

Definitely looking for trouble.  2

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mithrasm [8 posts] 1 year ago
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Clearly he is an inexperienced cyclist if he feels that is bad enough driving for him to make such an idiot of himself.

it is always useful to be reminded that cyclists can be as stupid as anyone else.

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Ric_Stern_RST [44 posts] 1 year ago
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I haven't cycled down that particular road, because for my part it feels too busy. However, on occasion i do drive down it.

At that point, the road is fairly wide in terms of carriageway widths, and i can't recall off the top of my head whether the part where she overtook at the pedestrian refuge is wide enough to allow a vehicle to do so. Note, that there are one or two other pedestrian refuges in Eastbourne (where i live) that allow a cyclist to maintain a secondary position and provide sufficient overtaking clearance. 

In terms of Sussex Police talking to a driver (i.e., others have asked if the driver would have been spoken too for bad driving), i can confirm that the police do, do this. However, even when they decide to prosecute someone for bad driving, the CPS (apparently it's  the Central Ticketing Office in Worthing, who act on behalf (?) of the CPS) do absolutely sweet FA even with good video evidence. Apparently, this has 'confused' the police as well (i.e., i had a detailed chat with the Road Traffic Unit about one of my incidents where they felt the driver needed prosecuting but the CPS didn't).  Additionally, Sussex Police have spoken with drivers where i've been threatened.

At Dave E128. That should have been a prosecution not an educational letter. Whether the CPS would have done anything is a different matter though. 

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hamishmcgrady [1 post] 1 year ago
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He's probably one of those brainless cyclists who ignore red traffic lights because "he knows best"......

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oldstrath [851 posts] 1 year ago
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Shame the police didn't  also speak to the driver about  her driving, in particular  the imbecility of overtaking  at a pinch point, just before turning left. Sure, this doesn't  excuse the rider's  over reaction.  Equally his over reaction shoukd not excuse  her bad driving. 

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gawl07 [19 posts] 1 year ago
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Although I agree with most on here, that the cyclist had plenty of time and room, they are not taking into account that his massive, lycra covered gut was probably closer to the car than his bike

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Angelfishsolo [134 posts] 1 year ago
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All I can say is WTF is that "cyclist" on.  He would have needed to be doing closer to 40mph to have come close to a colision.  A stupid prick with a go pro looking for trouble!