Eating clenbuterol tainted meat can lead to failed blood tests says German study, but…

I'd be interested to know just how much Clenbuterol has to be present in a steak eaten for my dinner to have produced the same reading as in Bertie's number ones.

(Is it safe to assume that, being red meat, not all of it would have been digested and is now bobbing its way around the Med?)

It would then be possible to extrapolate a figure, based on cut and size of the steak (seeing as we now have the receipt which presumably has a weight on it) to have some idea of how much Clen may've been in the donor animal.

Presumably, we might also be able to test the gravy for traces of plasticisers in case that's the source claimed to be responsible for those that allegedly turned up in other samples.

Regardless of the receipts, the cows and the murky underworld of modern agribusiness, what about the plasticisers that were allegedly in the blood samples?

So go vegy !! Or at least buy organic meat !!

BUT....results in extreme Bovine stamina&speed rendering milking in Espana a potential future olympic event. How do the ungulates manage to open the drug bottles. Bloody devils those spanish cows....Poor Alberto.

Some important facts about what the cycling world is calling "passive doping":

- They give EPO to chickens in the Ukraine to make them featherier. So if you eat eggs you've probably got a haematocrit count hovering around 53%, especially in mid-June.

- A lot of man-made fibres contain artifical testoterone, which will rub off into your skin if you wear them for too long.

- I stayed in hotel in Zambia last year where they put a big pot of human growth hormone on the breakfast table every morning. I was having it on my toast each morning for a fortnight thinking it was thick cut orange marmalade.

- Jaeger Bombs are horrible, horrible things but they aren't banned.

I'd be curious about instances of such drugs being present in US-produced meat. They don't follow the same standards we have in Europe and hormones and other stuff like antibiotics are widespread in food production.

I stopped eating meat a long time ago.

chinese meat, wow

Let us get back to what this is about , he was found to have clembuterol in his system , he has not proved where that clembuterol has come from
he is therefore guilty and should be banned for 2 years.

the fact that he can construct a scenario based on illegal clembuterol use in spain cattle production that has not been proved is not in any way an adequate legal defense, he has to prove how the drug mistakenly entered his system

so let me give you an alternative scenario , someone caught with large amounts of excess steroid in the system could claim it was externally added to their food by someone tampering with their food and even provide a witness that said someone had entered a kitchen in a hotel where the food was prepared who wasn't a staff member.
Would this prove the person had ingested the drug accidentally, no it wouldn't we wouldn't accept that defense

So the basis of the contador defense is that this was too low a level to make a difference to performance , but this is no defense because the possibility still exists that this was a microdoping re-infusion of his own blood from when he had taken clembuterol earlier in the year.

in simple terms , none of this matters , the burden of proof for a zero tolerance drug is for him to prove it was accidentally ingested, not to make implausible statments of what could have happened and have them believed.

Said receipt will unlikely be produced in public unless in a court of law as doing so would likely be actionable for a defamation suit.

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Astana had the receipt for the steak all along

@theswordsman - you're right, that should have read, 'was eventually produced', not 'was lost' - it has been amended. The point remains that it hasn't led to any contaminated meat being uncovered. Who's at fault for that is, as you say, a matter of much debate.

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why let the facts get in the way of reporting a good story

We've tried to be even-handed throughout this mess, I wouldn't say we've been slinging mud at Spain, Contador, Elfstone or anyone else. Okay, maybe Elfstone.

Well said 'theswordsman'. But then, why let the facts get in the way of reporting a good story.

And readers (including me) tend to react rather than thinking rationally, so it all works to wind everyone up.

Time for some serious fact checks. First of all, Astana had the receipt for the steak all along, and it was used as part of the Contador case. He filed a claim, and although we're led to believe the system is perfected to the point where a receipt can be traced back to an animal on a farm, the Basque Government couldn't do it. The meat industry can say these things to protect their reputation because consumers won't check the facts. Do they deny that farmers are arrested in Spain every year for using Clenbuterol? Do they deny that way too few animals are tested for the substance to give any assurance that the meat is safe?
But let's get to the German Study. #1 China has a Clenbuterol problem. #2 China has 1/5 of the World's population. #3 If WADA Labs in China tested all athletes who live in or compete in China for Clenbuterol using Cologne Lab standard equipment, the world of sports would be turned upside down. Add in Mexico and South America where it's legal, and other places where people cheat, and WADA HAS to set a minimum threshold. All the samples from the Beijing Olympics are stored. Test them all in Cologne for Clenbuterol, and see if anyone in any sport gets to keep a medal.
AS.Com has the entire RFEC Resolution in digital form that Google can translate. How many of the people slinging mud at Spain right now did the Due Diligence to read the legal case first?