Near Miss of the Day 583: “I'm banging their car in panic” says cyclist who was close-passed

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Women: stay at home too.

Here is 6 minutes of the excellent CycleGaz on why shouting Ride in Primary isn't always helpful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppTM9GYt_uQ

Some great examples of why all inner cities, towns and residential areas should have a 20mph speed limit, which is enforced. Most of the $h1t driving in the videos wouldn't be necessary then. Not that it was in the first place....

Id want to see the impact proper enforcement made first, as speed bumps and 20mph limits alone do naff all IME, though Im glad CycleGaz has plenty of video evidence of the point Ive always banged on about with riding prime

I agree with you Awavey, without enforcement of 20 mph limits nothing changes.

Most cyclists I know will have had similar experiences to this kind of overtake, and no amount of riding in primary position will change it.

I have had a few instances of riding primary in 20 mph limits whilst keeping up with the car in front and you get the MGIF twunt would pull alongside me, then when they draw level with me they would move into the space I was occupying and I had the option to either brake and let them past or be squashed.  No amount of hitting their car changes it either.

I have had the irony of a driver overtaking me whilst I was going over the speed limit in a 20 zone (about 23 ish), then stopping me and telling me off for speeding.  He was not impressed when I informed him that as I don't have a legal requirement for a speedo I couldn't be done for speeding, but he on the other hand could....  to which he said "I only overtook you to tell you off for speeding"........ 

TriTaxMan wrote:

....  to which he said "I only overtook you to tell you off for speeding"........ 

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

He thought your 200 lb bike was so dangerous at 23 MPH that he should move his 3000 lb car at 26 MPH to let you know about it.

Worthwhile remembering that 20mph is the motorised speed limit - no problem with running, skating or cycling more than 20mph.

As I remember, after the introduction of 20mph speed limits in Bristol, the average traffic speed did reduce by about 3mph or so they can be of some use.

That is one brave cyclist. Most of those are lane problems though. Of the three examples of riding primary in the inside lane two of them were relevant to this NMOTD and during the close passes there was room to move in and  maintain a little separation from the vehicle. This is one reason for riding primary and would have helped in this NMOTD. The most scary was the third where the motorcycle undercuts which, I have to admit, wouldn't have happened if riding closer to the kerb.

Although that is more of an issue with multi lanes whereas mostly in nmotd it is a single lane where it is normally said.

Hadn't considered motorcyclists before though !

I liked the way the bus driver politely informed gaz that he was about to be knocked off by the driver.

For some of them yes,but not all of them the car dive bombing in at speed from the right hand side before a set of traffic lights or pinchpoint is very common move even on single lane roads. And I've certainly had the one where a car draws along side but cant overtake because the traffic queue slows and just moves over on you

I would imagine that the motorist would still have close passed regardless of the road position of the cyclist. I had one the other day on a two lane carriageway where I was central in lane 1 and the tool passing me couldn't fully use lane 2. And insisted on straddling the white line. 

I never touch the vehicle of an offending driver for just that reason, especially a tradie/van man type.. I had a tradie stop and try to bash me for just yelling at his very close pass - I just cycled away from him and left him standing.

won't do the trick. You really need a big metal spike or spur. Or a big metal spiked glove like something Rob Halford would wear

the little onion wrote:

won't do the trick. You really need a big metal spike or spur. Or a big metal spiked glove like something Rob Halford would wear

i think grippy gloves would be easier to explain than a carbide-tipped window breaker

I found out that my tungsten carbide wedding ring makes an extremely satisfying and very loud noise when I bang the side window of a minivan with my bare hand. It didn't break the glass, but it startled the driver so much she dropped her phone!

andystow wrote:

I found out that my tungsten carbide wedding ring makes an extremely satisfying and very loud noise when I bang the side window of a minivan with my bare hand. It didn't break the glass, but it startled the driver so much she dropped her phone!

Tungsten carbide ring? tungsten carbide ring?? what the bleedin' 'ell is tungsten carbide????

Are you sure?  Most online sources say they live in either Giltbrook Notts or Broxtowe Notts, although the MP has prior form as Wilts councillor.

i may have to concede that minor point
Doesn't stop them knowing f all about the area they serve, certainly in the case of henry. A party yes man, flown in to take advantage of admittedly a shambolic labour presence.

Definitely a yes man looking at his Windrush comments where he states there shouldn't be party politics in play then straightaway says it is Labours fault for starting a hostile enviroment in 2007 (when that named policy was actually introduced in 2012 by May).