Campagnolo is bringing back its Centaur aluminium groupset to replace the current Veloce range, although it’s now 11-speed and features technology that has trickled down from the Italian brand’s higher level groupsets.
Centaur was a feature of the Campagnolo lineup for a long time before being sidelined two years ago. New Centaur comes into Campagnolo’s groupset hierarchy below Super Record, Record, Chorus and Potenza with the aim of competing directly with Shimano 105. Campag says that Centaur offers much of the same Revolution 11+ technology as its higher end groupsets but using different materials which allow for lower prices. The material choice also means that Centaur is heavier than Campag’s more expensive options.
“The Centaur project saw its central aim as offering an accessible groupset without offering entry level performance or features,” says Campagnolo.
Check out our guide to Campagnolo’s groupsets here.
Unlike Campag’s higher level groupsets, Centaur is rim brake only – there are no disc brakes here. Like next-level-up Potenza, shifting is mechanical only – there’s no EPS electronic version.
The complete Centaur groupset is available in two different finishes:
• Centaur black £539.33
• Centaur silver £571.10
The silver components are slightly more expensive than the black equivalents except for the brakes which are listed as being the same price.
All weights below are supplied by Campagnolo.
Campagnolo took me out to Gran Canaria a couple of weeks ago where I had the chance to use Centaur out on the road. The performance is such that you’d hardly know that it’s designed as a value groupset. The braking in particular is excellent. But we’re getting ahead of ourselves. Let’s take a look at the key components.
Chainset
Price £143.00 (black) £155.71 (silver)
Weight 875g (50/34-tooth, 170mm)
The Centaur chainset comes with a four-arm spider – a design that has trickled down from Super Record although here it’s made from aluminium rather than carbon. The idea is that the arms are positioned where they are most needed for strength and rigidity.
A single chainset will accept all chainring combinations… speaking of which, the Centaur chainset will be available in 52/36-tooth (semi-compact, mid-compact, faux pro, or whatever else you want to call it) and 50/34-tooth (compact) versions. There’s no 53/39-tooth (standard) option because Campagnolo doesn’t see that as relevant to the Centaur market.
The inner and outer chainrings are fixed using separate bolts, so there’s one bolt circle diameter for each. Campag says that this allows the bolts to be located closer to the edge of each ring for extra rigidity.
The Centaur chainset is the first aluminium model with Campagnolo’s high-end Ultra-Torque axle. Essentially, half the axle is attached to the driveside crank, the other half is attached to the non-driveside crank, and teeth on the end of each half mesh together in the middle. Campag reckons this design offers the best performance in terms of stiffness, weight and efficiency of power transmission.
Ergopower controls
Price £127.11 (black) £135.58 (silver)
Weight 373g
The Ergopower controls look a lot like Campag’s top-end Super Record Ergopowers although, again, the materials used are different. The Ergopower body is made from a lightweight techno-polymer reinforced with carbon fibre while the brake lever is aluminium.
Campag sticks with its ‘one lever, one action’ philosophy. Instead of the brake lever doubling up as a shift lever, changing gear is handled by a thumb lever and lever 3, a shifter that’s tucked behind the brake lever. Rather than sticking out at a right angle to the Ergopower body, the thumb lever is angled downwards, a lot like it is on Campag’s EPS control, to make it more accessible from the handlebar drops.
Campag’s Power-Shift internals mean you can use that thumb lever to shift down the cassette just one sprocket at a time, which is the same as Potenza – you can’t shift multiple sprockets down the cassette with one push like you can with Campag’s highest level groupsets. You can, though, shift up the cassette a maximum of three sprockets with one push.
Front derailleur
Price £41.32 (black) £45.97 (silver)
Weight 103g
The front derailleur uses the Revolution 11+ technology that Campag has used on its higher end groupsets over the past few years. The one-piece steel cage, for example, takes its cues from the Super Record RS cage. The idea of using a one-piece construction is to increase rigidity and precision.
The long rod is designed to reduce the force and lever throw required for upshifting from the small chainring to the large chainring.
Rear derailleur
Price £63.55 (black) £69.49 (silver)
Weight 230g
The rear derailleur comes in a single version that can handle cassettes with sprockets as large as 32-tooth. The fact that there aren’t short cage and long cage models means you don’t need to worry about swapping your rear derailleur if you change your cassette to one of a different range.
The only technology that Campagnolo hasn’t been able to filter down from its higher level groupsets is Embrace which changes the angle of the rear derailleur relative to the cassette as you come down through the gears. That means the Centaur rear derailleur has to remain at one angle in relation to the cassette across the various different sprockets, and Campagnolo has altered this angle from that of previous designs.
“Having one angle, you have to choose the one that’s going to be the most reliable and most efficient,” said Campagnolo’s Joshua Riddle. “With our angle we are able to hug tighter for each sprocket on the cassette compared to our competitors.”
Campag has lengthened the teeth of the upper pulley wheel which, it says, makes it easier for you to regulate the rear derailleur, while the teeth of the lower pulley wheel have been shortened to reduce friction when the chain is at an extreme crossover angle.
Campag says that the Centaur rear derailleur is 15g lighter than the long cage version of any of its competitors.
Cassette
Price £61.44 (12-32-tooth) £74.15 (11-29-tooth, 11-32-tooth)
Weight 291g (11-29-tooth)
The 11-speed cassette is the same as for Potenza but with a slightly different finish.
You can choose from:
• 11-29 tooth
• 11-32 tooth
• 12-32 tooth
These cassettes are designed specifically for the Centaur groupset but they’re compatible with other Campag 11-speed components.
Chain
Price £31.78
Weight 247g (110 links)
Campagnolo has designed a new chain specifically for the Centaur and Potenza groupsets (although it’ll work with any Campag 11-speed groupset) with, it says, a focus on precise chainring engagement.
“It’s a really efficient chain, it’s lightweight and it’s super, super durable,” said Campag’s Joshua Riddle.
Campag says its tests show that the new chain will outlast anything else that’s out there at the moment.
Check out our review of Campagnolo’s Potenza groupset here.
Brakes
Price £49.19
Weight 325g
The Centaur brakes are dual pivot front and rear and Campag claims that they are 50g lighter than those of the competition.
The pads are made from a new compound that’s designed to provide increased stopping power in all conditions.
Bottom bracket cups
Price £21.98
Weight 40g
The bottom bracket cups are available in various different standards to fit different frames.
Weight
We’ve given you the weights of the individual products above but here they are all together.
Chainset 875g
Ergopower controls 373g
Front derailleur 103g
Rear derailleur 230g
Cassette 291g
Chain 247g
Brakes 325g
Bottom bracket cups 40g
Total 2,484g
Campagnolo says that Centaur is lighter than any of its price point competitors by 30-50g (depending on the selected specs).
In use
I got the chance to use new Centaur on a dry, hilly ride of about 2:20hrs in Gran Canaria. That’s not long enough for a full review, obviously, but here are my early impressions.
The standout feature of the groupset is the braking. I was riding a bike fitted with Campagnolo’s newly reinvented Scirocco wheels and the braking performance on the aluminium rims was superb.
As mentioned above, both front and rear brakes are dual pivot (there’s no single pivot option for the rear) but my guess is that it’s Campagnolo’s new pad compound that’s making the difference here. Whatever it is, the brakes feel excellent, particularly considering that Centaur is Campag’s fifth tier groupset. Good brakes give you the confidence to ride fast. Our route took in a fair few hairpins and I was able to leave braking as late as I ever have, knowing that there was enough power to decelerate safely with very little fingertip pressure before chucking the bike into the bend. This really isn’t the kind of braking that you might expect on an entry-level groupset.
The rest of the groupset is almost as impressive. It might not be as light as Campag’s higher end groupsets, and it might not look as expensive, but Centaur feels almost the same when you’re riding.
Ergonomically, the Centaur Ergopower levers are pretty much the same as Super Record. Chances are that you spend most of your time riding with your hands on the hoods, right? The Vari-Cushion natural silicone hoods are super-comfortable and very grippy even when rain or sweat has made them wet.
Shifting uses Campag’s Power-Shift mechanism, the same as you get with Potenza. The long shift lever that’s tucked behind the brake lever allows you to move up the cassette a maximum of three sprockets at a time, depending on how far you push it, while the thumb lever allows you to move down the cassette one sprocket at a time.
For comparison, Campag’s Ultra-Shift mechanism found on the Super Record, Record and Chorus mechanical groupsets allows you to move up the cassette a maximum of five sprockets with one throw of the lever, and the thumb lever allows you to move multiple-sprockets with one push too.
To be honest, it’s not often that you find yourself wanting to move more sprockets than Power-Shift allows, so it’s not a massive limitation. Plus, the thumb lever has to come out from the Ergopower body at right angles on the higher level groupsets to allow enough cable movement for those multiple shifts down the cassette. That’s not an issue with Centaur so Campag can position the lever in such a way that it’s much more accessible when you’re riding on the drops. In other words, when you’re in a racing position it’s easier to shift using that thumb lever on Centaur Ergopowers than it is on Super Record Ergopowers.
In terms of shifting, Centaur performs exactly as you’d hope it would, although my bike had just been set up by Campag’s own mechanics so the chances of it not behaving itself on a quick test ride were always going to be slim. I did my best to flummox it but the drivetrain wasn’t fazed by multiple shifts or swapping between chainrings under load.
My bike was fitted with a compact chainset (50/34-tooth) and a cassette going up to 32-tooth, the maximum the system will allow. You can get a lower gear if you go to SRAM’s WiFLi but chances are that this is going to be plenty to see you up the longest and steepest of climbs.
It might seem odd but Campagnolo is really proud of the new chain that has been designed for the Centaur and Potenza groupsets. The feature the brand is most pleased about is the durability. Obviously, that’s not something I can comment on after a 2:20hr ride, but Campag seems confident that you’re going to get a long life from this one.
You can’t make firm judgements on a groupset in a couple of hours but early indications suggest that Campagnolo is on to a winner with new Centaur. The fact that a lot of the technology has filtered down from the more expensive Campag groupsets means that, although new in this format, it is already tried and tested. In terms of function, there’s really not much to separate Centaur from those higher end groups, it’s just the materials and the weights that are different. We hope to give Centaur a full test on road.cc soon.
53 thoughts on “Updated: First ride – Campagnolo relaunches Centaur 11-speed groupset”
But it’s not shiney
But it’s not shiney
HowardR wrote:
True. 🙁 I’m tempted to stock up on some Athena groups while they’re still around just because of that.
Maybe in a decade or so when science will have gifted us a new material that’s lighter, stronger, better than carbon, this will shift back to shiny-ness again? Do limpet teeth polish up well?
HowardR wrote:
There is a polished aluminum version coming. Availability is near the end of the summer I believe.
WheelNut wrote:
Now that could convince me to switch to Campag. I see so many beautiful steel and titanium builds ruined by black groupsets.
Good to see campagnolo taking
Good to see campagnolo taking to the OEM market. I own a Potenza bike and I love it. The only downside on Potenza and in this group set too I wager, is the lever behind the brake. My previous bike was a Sora equipped one and it felt more solid than the Ultegra rivaling Potenza. It just feels spongy and flimsy. Change it to an aluminium or steel lever. I mean it’s not the extra 2g of weight that will make that much of a difference.
The brakes are seriously good though. Like so much modulation it kinda feels like a disc brake (in the dry).
Good on campy 🙂
The Centaur chainset is the
The Centaur chainset is the first aluminium model with Campagnolo’s high-end Ultra-Torque axle(link is external).
Not so, my 10Spd Centaur cranks are Ultra Torque 🙂
SingleSpeed wrote:
Same here while both Athena and Veloce have been UT as well.
SingleSpeed wrote:
Yep, so are my Athena 11 speed cranks. Ultra Torque used to be more ubiquitous.
SingleSpeed wrote:
Yes, I have that model too.
Chain
Can I use this super duper chain on my Shimano and SRAM groupsets? Is it as good as a KMC chain? They aren’t exactly crap.
cyclesteffer wrote:
Yes you can. As for whether it’s as good as KMC, I don’t know, I’ve been using KMC on all my own bikes too so far. My current build will run a Potenza chain though, so ask me again in a year or so. 😛
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“There’s no 53/39-tooth (standard) option because Campagnolo doesn’t see that as relevant to the Centaur market”
Changed days indeed…
I’m glad that it’s good, and relatively affordable – but it’s ugly (IMO).
So this is cheaper than
So this is cheaper than potenza, but it uses ultra torque in the bb, while potenza uses a variant of power torque with a self extracting crank bolt. I think that means you’ll need expensive tools for fitting/maintaining centaur that you won’t need for potenza. Can anyone confirm?
vonhelmet wrote:
The opposite is true. Ultra Torque can be fitted and removed with a standard 10mm Allen key.
userfriendly wrote:
Ah, good news! This might end up on my next bike build in a couple of years then. I want to give campag a go, but I’m not keen on spending a fortune on tools to do so.
userfriendly wrote:
…and a long bar 🙂
vonhelmet wrote:
(double post)
Excellent news. Potenza was
Excellent news. Potenza was already a step in the right direction with its medium cage derailleur, but still expensive compared to mid-level Shimano – the new Centaur will finally allow Campag to be sold on a lot of sub-£1k bikes. It was possible with Veloce before, but given the choice people were usually tempted to go for 11-speed offerings from Shimano instead, perhaps unsurprisingly.
Also very happy to see Ultra Torque’s return to the entry level. Hoping to see the same happen for the next iteration of Potenza. For two of my own bikes I deliberately hunted down some NOS Athena carbon cranksets just to avoid Power Torque.
userfriendly wrote:
the new Potenza cranck will be ultratorque 🙂 and be adjustable for both 135 and 130 hub spacing (not that it matters with campy’s derailures)
The cassette range is a
The cassette range is a disgrace..
13/29?
12/27?
The 11t is only good for strong sprinters
A mere mortal gets along perfectly fine with a 13t smallest cog
Huge jumps…
Oh btw, old centaur brakes were lighter.
And the derailleur also gained weight, the chainset&with cups is again heavier
Vejnemojnen wrote:
Disgrace? Bit strong!
With the compact and mid-compact cranksets the 11t gives you a good top gear and all 11-speed cassettes from Campagnolo/Shimano/Sram work with Campagnolo, so you’re not really restricted in any way.
pwake wrote:
Disgrace? Bit strong!
With the compact and mid-compact cranksets the 11t gives you a good top gear and all 11-speed cassettes from Campagnolo/Shimano/Sram work with Campagnolo, so you’re not really restricted in any way.— Vejnemojnen
I admit you are correct, I lost my control a bit. 🙂
well, I largely do flat riding, for which I’m completely happy with 13-26 with a 50-39 at the front (39-15 is a very nice gear to have on the flats)
I like the range and the opportunity to climb walls, but. I am very sensitive to 2t jumps, because I’m kinda weak.. 🙂
Vejnemojnen wrote:
i know what you’re saying about 2t jumps. All my bikes are Campagnolo-equipped and on my main bike I’ve just gone to the 52/36 mid-compact with a 12-27 cassette; I think it works really well, but for sure I don’t need an 11t.
Vejnemojnen wrote:
Completely agree – the 11t is fairly redundant unless you’re doing flatish riding in which case why pair it with a 32?!
I’ve run 12-27 centaur 10s and 13-29 veloce cassettes for some time with both and they give a useful range. Would be even better as an 11s.
700c wrote:
Completely agree – the 11t is fairly redundant unless you’re doing flatish riding in which case why pair it with a 32?!
I’ve run 12-27 centaur 10s and 13-29 veloce cassettes for some time with both and they give a useful range. Would be even better as an 11s.
— Vejnemojnen
show me a 13-29 11 speed casette and im all in, perfect ratio
Vejnemojnen wrote:
You can use a Chorus cassete if you want a wider range of cassette choices. All Campagnolo 11s cassettes and chains are interchangeable.
The overall target weight of the group was met – sure, individual parts may be heavier than some of the competitors but some are lighter, so the target is hit – and it has to be said that all groupset components from whatever manufacturer, are designed to be partnered with & will work best with, their matching parts, so individual component weights are not so important.
Vejnemojnen wrote:
You can get Potenza cassette in 12/27. Can’t see much point in 13/29. If you’re climbing with a 29, you’re descending with an 11 in my experience.
hockinsk wrote:
But not in my experience so for people like me a 13/29 is just the ticket.
daccordimark wrote:
Miche make 11 speed cassettes with individual teeth so you can mix and match to your heart’s content. Works out the same price as a Chorus cassette.
hockinsk wrote:
You can get Potenza cassette in 12/27. Can’t see much point in 13/29. If you’re climbing with a 29, you’re descending with an 11 in my experience.— Vejnemojnen
most people who are obsessed with small cogs for descending are generally those, who cannot tuck in while on a slope 🙂
heads down, elbows in, make your frontal surface area as small as possible. you’ll gain more speed that way than with a 1t smaller cog.
I feel like they missed a
I feel like they missed a trick from Potenza. That groupset’s crankset had a self-extracting crank bolt, in a bid to address what I hear are complaints about older model non-drive-side crank arms being a pain to remove. Unfortunately the Centaur version seems to have dropped this judging from the photos.
Correct me if I’m wrong.
EDIT – Looks like I got the crank types mixed up. Potenza uses Power Torque, which benefited from the self-extracting crank bolt. Ultra Torque apparently doesn’t need it. Carry on 🙂
TypeVertigo wrote:
The new version of Potenza, Potenza HO, optimised for Hydraulic Disc also launched this month, also has the UltraTorque BB design.
The Powershift Veloce
The Powershift Veloce shifters featured a plastic ratchet which wears out very quickly. Do the Centaur shifters use this also? If so it doesn’t look promising.
After 3 sets of shifters (2 Ultrashift+1 Powershift) I managed to get some new old stock Veloce Ultrashift with the 3-up 3-down lever and metal internals which are lasting much longer.
Pub bike wrote:
This problem was fixed a couple of years ago or more … the ratchet could be softened by long-term contact with some mineral oils and mechanics do love to spray oils into levers, even when they don’t need it (and there’s nothing in the maintenence instructions to tell them to do it) … once this problem was identified, it was fixed with a change in materials.
UltraShift is not an ideal mix with the Potenza RD and the Centuar RD has a different pull ratio so they can’t be used.
With the Potenza RD, UltraShift tends to give laggy shifting in one direction or the other (depends on how the cable tension is set) and the “sweet spot” with good shifting is very small indeed, even when everything is brand new and clean. Worn and dirty systems are still harder to set up. This is because the two components were never designed to work with each other – the Potenza RD has a lighter return spring, optimised for the less complex internals of the PowerShift lever..
velotech_cycling wrote:
by any chance, do you have any connections with the weightweenies member Graeme?
because the language-attention to details and clear explanation is very suspcious. all you wrote is correct..
Ah, I remember what the
Ah, I remember what the problem with ultra-torque is – getting the bearing off the axle if you need to replace or service it. Although saying that you can get 3rd party installation/removal kits for like £30 now, so not such a big deal.
Struggling to see the
Struggling to see the differentiator between Centaur and Potenza here, tbh. One cage rear derailleur, and that’s about it.
That said, I use a Chorus/Potenza mix on my good bike, and am planning a winter bike build. Now discs are an option, a Potenza/Centaur mix would be ideal.
ut bearings for
ut bearings for
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222439299118?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
very cheap 🙂 I have bought around 10 pairs of these for my lbs, and nobody complained about quality so far. btw, the original bearings on ut chainsets tend to last 25-30k km-s if you don’t bash them in wet weather
I’m a big Campagnolo fan . I
I’m a big Campagnolo fan . I’ve been disappointed by Campag’s range over the past few years. Like Mercedes they’ve sullied their reputation with confused and tacky lower level products and renaming Chorus. Just unnecessary.
I have a 10 speed carbon Centaur group set on my best bike: it’s actually rebadged Chorus left over from the year the top two levels moved over to 11 speed. It looks fantastic and works well. The dual pivot brakes are very responsive and yes – they are shiny like brakes are meant to be! Shine onnnn you crazy campaggggg!! Sorry. I digress.
Personally I wouldn’t consider buying anything below Record these days in terms of looks and function ; not the EPS Spinal Tap 11 speed either. If anyone has a Record 10 speed Titanium group set for sale let me know. A groupset of true beauty and rarer than hen’s teeth…
As for the Matt finish? Sick of it – in helmets too. Like drain pipe jeans, matt finishes are well past their fashion period.
WolfieSmith wrote:
Chorus is still Chorus! And it works as well as Record still. I have Chorus on a newish bike and struggle to see the difference bar a bit more steel and no titanium over Record and SR.
https://www.campagnolo.com/WW/en/Mechanical_Groupsets/chorus/road
WolfieSmith wrote:
You don’t sound like you’ve actually ridden any of the R11 groupsets before forming that opinion.
I’ve got bikes with Super Record and Chorus on them. There is absolutely zero difference in how they operate and a fag paper between them in terms of looks; in fact I think Chorus looks classier. I’d go as far as to say that the extra few hundred quid for SR was a complete waste of money. But, you know, Super Record…
I get where you’ve coming from regarding polished finishes. I’ve got alloy Athena on another bike (yes I’m a total Campag whore) and it looks brilliant. But so does the new stuff, just in a different way. Alloy groupsets look daft on carbon bikes, but the option is there both for Potenza and Centaur. Chainset looks odd in polished alloy, but plenty of NOS Athena and older polished items are available. Start stockpiling if you think you’ll be building up an old-school steel frame anytime soon.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Campagnolo-Record-Titanium-Carbon-Full-Groupset-Shifters-Chainset-Derailliurs-BB-/142353377906?hash=item2124ec2a72:g:JdoAAOSwN6JY9iDe
You’re a fortnight too late…
WolfieSmith wrote:
I can assure you its not.
There is a lot more qality going on the the 10 speed Chorus 07 than in any Centaur iterations – even the Ultratorque variants.
brakes: Chorus 07 skelton brakes had ball bearings and its identical to Record 17 brakes.
ergo levers: Chorus 07 has ball beraings iinternals nstead of bushings. Centaur has the escape rear shift mechanism and not the Ultrashift mechanism. Both have micorshift with trim function on the frontshift. Centaur Carbon levers are actually carbon coated aluminum.
Crankset: Centuar carbon crankset may have ultratroque and record class bearings but the chainrings are stamped instead of the expensive chainrings found on Chorus.
Rear deraillure: IS different too, paralellogram cage is carbon but the rear ptae is steel, body is not Forged aluminum, cage is not forged alumium.
Front deraillure: Chorus sued alumium cage, Centaur didnt.
casette: also different
chain: i think they where identical.
As far as incorporating
As far as incorporating shifting into the brake lever, Shimano might have a patent on that, does anybody know?
The next material is likely to be carbon as well, in the form of graphene, but that is a ways off.
I love matte finish, and murdered out bikes, I cringe at some of the lime green and lemon yellow paint schemes that are put out these days. Oh well, to each their own.
I would have been all over
I would have been all over this if it wasn’t for the fact that first-gen 11-sp Athena (2010) existed. For those who don’t remember, the first 11-sp Athena had Ultra-Torque cranks, Ultra-shift levers (5 up, 3 down), it was available with both carbon and aluminium cranks and levers. With carbon cranks it was £200+ cheaper than Chorus while being only less than 100g heavier. It was lighter than Ultegra while being about the same price. The Ergos used the exact same internal parts as Chorus and Record – the only difference was the Athena-branded lever, which was a few grams heavier. But of course Campagnolo couldn’t just let a good thing be, and in 2012 the “new” Athena was down-graded to Power-Torque and Power-Shift, while the price remained the same. SMDH
Shanghaied wrote:
This is the version I have, and everytime I climb aboard I curse myself for upgrading to carbon levers. Should have stuck with alloy; they’ve stopped making them now 🙁
2007 centaur chainsets
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Groupset-campagnolo-centaur-2×10-/302299534892?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=cgehCRuvbDNNtr7pH0zztCUoWss%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
old taur, with shifters capable of shifting down the whole cogset..
2007 centaur chainsets (models with fc7-ce..) has the same chainrings as chorus (cold forged..) later centaur csets only run stamped rings
2010 centaur ergos were ultra shift WITH ball bearings.. ballz
2011 centaur brakes (br11-cedp) weighed below 310 grams in pairs, dp-dp front-hind. they were light, man!
oh, and the old power-torque design chainset with bearing cups were lighter. I’d have upgraded those with the 10mm self-extracting bolts, a’la potenza..
athena featured 13-29 cassettes in 2010..
10speed campag has cassettes like 13-26, 14-25, 13-29, 12-25, 12-30, so everyone can find the best option.
most riders don’t need 11-12t on the flats.. (flat=no declines)
btw, power-shift is superiour in action to ultra imho. easier, finer, requires less effort. but, the internals should be manufactured from steeeel 🙂
old centaur derailleur
old centaur derailleur
the old brakes..
the old brakes..
old chainset, add 70grams for
old chainset, add 70grams for the cups..
edit: this is the alloy version, the cf substracts around 90-80 grams..
Not that I’ve been holding my
Not that I’ve been holding my breath for this – but it looks a bit agricultural …. looks like a sub-105 level groupset at Ultegra pricing….
Sub-headline : 11-speed
Sub-headline : 11-speed aluminium groupset designed to compete with Shimano 105, and it’s a little lighter.
Article : Campagnolo says that Centaur is lighter than any of its price point competitors by 30-50g (depending on the selected specs).
I mean, come on ! It’s (to all intents and purposes), the same weight. 30-50g across the entire groupset , that’s probably within manufacturing tolerances.
bigblue wrote:
Yeah, you’re absolutely right, 30-50g isn’t a little lighter, it’s exactly the same. Very good point.
Does anyone know when this is
Does anyone know when this is actually going to become available for sale and if the prices are going to be those as stated above? Given that you can pick up a Potenza groupset for £525, it seems unlikely that Campag will be able to flog their lesser groupset at a higher price. I’m looking to start building a new winter bike and want to spec it with Campag and it would ideally be Centaur because of the cost saving but it seems to be taking forever for it to go on sale.