Jeremy Vine, who from next month will be the host of the BBC TV show Crimewatch, got some first-hand insight of his new role while commuting by bike last week, filming an incident with an extremely aggressive driver who got out of her car and kicked out at him, then later mimicked aiming a gun at him.
The episode happened on Friday on a one-way street by Kensington Town Hall, Vine riding in primary position since the parked cars on either side of the road meant there was insufficient room for a car to safely overtake a bicycle.
The driver beeped her horn at him, moving up close to his rear wheel, and when Vine pointed out there was not enough room to overtake, saying “there’s got to be a car’s width,” the motorist got out of her car, kicking out at him and telling the TV and radio presenter to “Get the f*ck out the road.”
Shortly afterwards, the woman got out of her car again at the junction with Kensington High Street, telling Vine to stop filming her car, before getting back in and making the shape of a pistol with her fingers, aiming a ‘shot’ at him.
Vine posted footage of what happened to his Facebook page, saying; “I hate to overload our hard-working London police with footage from my commute, but I feel the person you see on the tape will at some point hurt someone very badly – either with her car or in a direct personal assault.”
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80 thoughts on “Video: Driver tailgates BBC’s Jeremy Vine then kicks out at him”
Imagine you were married to
Imagine you were married to that.
unconstituted wrote:
That’s why there’s so many errant fathers in the black community.
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
You know it’s going to kick off now
unconstituted wrote:
Pathetic.
I’m sure there are plenty of websites out there for lazy racist and sexist comments. Why don’t you leave disgusting comments where they belong?
Stick to cycling and have a scrap of human decency. It’s not much to ask is it?
AsOriginalAsYou wrote:
Sorry to bore you with facts but 72% of black kids in the U.S. are raised in single parent families. How is something clearly contained within the black community anything to do with racism? And sexism? Lost me there.
Anyway IT WAS A JOKE!!! It wasn’t Frankie Boyle and disabled kids level but somebody always gets offended….very easily it seems.
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
Let me help you – you’ve interpreted this “fact” to validate your prejudice. The behaviour of this one black woman in no way reflects on other black woman or indeed an entire race. There’s so many assumptions within your bizzare extrapolation of this incident into some kind of misguided anthropological point that it makes very little sense. Basically, joke or not, you’ve exposed yourself as something of a racist.
jasecd wrote:
Definitely could not have put it better myself.
AsOriginalAsYou wrote:
Let me help you – you’ve interpreted this “fact” to validate your prejudice. The behaviour of this one black woman in no way reflects on other black woman or indeed an entire race. There’s so many assumptions within your bizzare extrapolation of this incident into some kind of misguided anthropological point that it makes very little sense. Basically, joke or not, you’ve exposed yourself as something of a racist.
— Yorkshire wallet Definitely could not have put it better myself.— unconstituted
You guys are funny.
He’s exposed himself as culturally aware, and as someone who worked with the black community in Lewisham in youth justice, I know he’s absolutely spot on. It’s also something the black community openly discuss and are seeking to remedy.
That’s not racist, and either is his comment.
People go too far these days with the sancitimony. Out themselves as shallow and simply using race as a stick to beat others with for a quick self-esteem patch. It’s transparent, and you open yourself up for an easy baiting, like what just happened here.
I’d put my money on him being a more decent guy out of the three of you, instinctually.
unconstituted wrote:
I’m so sorry, you’re completely right – I should have made sure I listed my qualifications to judge what is or is not racist.
I wonder what else your remakable instincts tell you?
jasecd wrote:
That you’re struggling to make a point after your shallow sanctimony was called out.
unconstituted wrote:
Yep that was it – cheers, very perceptive.
I’m off for a ride…
jasecd wrote:
Yep that was it – cheers, very perceptive.
I’m off for a ride…
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Can’t beat the fresh air for shaking off that pent up angst.
unconstituted wrote:
Yep that was it – cheers, very perceptive.
I’m off for a ride…
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Can’t beat the fresh air for shaking off that pent up angst.
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It’s not sanctimonious. Your attempt to dismiss someone’s analysis by belittling their comment and applying your anecdotal knowledge is unfair and irrelevant (in that order).
The original analysis stands. The only comments made focused on the ethnicity and gender and a lazy stereotype was applied.
Parts of the statement may be true but that’s not important. When you treat a someone as a stereotype and not as person you’re being racist.
I’d think a person with your ‘experience’ would know that. Perhaps you need to think about your own ideas before dismissing others.
Oops, I shouldn’t have put ‘experience’, that unfairly diminishes your point. Sorry about that!
I’m sure you’ll forgive me.
AsOriginalAsYou wrote:
I’m so sorry, you’re completely right – I should have made sure I listed my qualifications to judge what is or is not racist.
I wonder what else your remakable instincts tell you?
— Yorkshire wallet
That you’re struggling to make a point after your shallow sanctimony was called out.— AsOriginalAsYou
Yep that was it – cheers, very perceptive.
I’m off for a ride…
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Can’t beat the fresh air for shaking off that pent up angst.
[/quote] It’s not sanctimonious. Your attempt to dismiss someone’s analysis by belittling their comment and applying your anecdotal knowledge is unfair and irrelevant (in that order). The original analysis stands. The only comments made focused on the ethnicity and gender and a lazy stereotype was applied. Parts of the statement may be true but that’s not important. When you treat a someone as a stereotype and not as person you’re being racist. I’d think a person with your ‘experience’ would know that. Perhaps you need to think about your own ideas before dismissing others. Oops, I shouldn’t have put ‘experience’, that unfairly diminishes your point. Sorry about that! I’m sure you’ll forgive me.[/quote]
Convulted bilge. Don’t try so hard.
jasecd wrote:
Yep that was it – cheers, very perceptive.
I’m off for a ride…
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May your ride be free from both racists and political correctionists.
jasecd wrote:
To add to the idiocy of the initial racist comment, what the feck is the black community?
Is there a white community? Of course not. People are people, people.
The sooner you cultivate that attitude, the sooner the sad inequalities mentioned in the above statistic can change.
SiRush wrote:
Someone needs to tell the mainstream media about this, then. They talk about “the black community “, “the LGBTQ community”, “the traveller community “, “the <fill in a nationality or ethnicity here> community “, and even “the cycling community” all the time.
jasecd wrote:
I remember Bernard Manning making jokes along those lines.
AsOriginalAsYou wrote:
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
breathtaking combination of racism, misogny and ignorance – chapeau sir, and be sure to say that it’s all just a joke
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
Kinell! Where the hell did that come from?
Is it Out Yourself as a Racist Week or something?
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
You’re making a general point about black women. That their male partners are more likely to leave them because of behaviour like this that is, in your view, more endemic than it is in non-black women. Do you see now? Good, now fuck off.
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
How’d you know that, player
unconstituted wrote:
At least when he says he’s at work, you can turn on the radio and check.
unconstituted wrote:
Keep your fantasies to yourself
Gobshite.
Gobshite.
Picked the wrong person though.
So, what’s the chance that
So, what’s the chance that the police do anything about this dangerous driver (beyond telling her to check to cameras before kicking off)?
paulrattew wrote:
They may look do something about this as according the DVLA tax checker the vehicle isn’t taxed (someone on Twitter posted this data). We can’t have the exchequer being short changed now, can we!
usedtobefaster wrote:
My general view is that if a car is being driven that isn’t taxed or that isn’t insured it should be confiscated and then sold off in auction, with the money going directly into the police’s budget.
Whilst the driver appears to
Whilst the driver appears to be a complete nut job, you have to wonder why Vine decided to stop in the middle of the road and prompt an altercation rather than just pull over when the road opened out (which it seemed to do just after he blocked the road) and let her drive past.
That said I was hoping he was going to d-lock her back window as she pulled away, but I guess a Crimewatch presenter knows better than that!
What I love most about this
What I love most about this one is that she’s so upset he’s filming and “taking a picture of her personal belongings” but her slamming the Porsche beside her with her door when she gets out is absolutely fine…. Hope the owner of th ePorsche sees this so he can get the inevitable chip repaired at her expense. . . .
Told ya
Told ya
I’m very glad Jeremy Vine
I’m very glad Jeremy Vine responded in a calm manner and did not inflame the situation. That is exactly the way to act, especially if you have cameras on board and know that action can be taken.
It may be tempting to respond with a violent or dominant act but that driver will just be doubly angry at the next cyclist they meet (who will possibly be less able to deal with it than you are)
Regards
Tony
Bikesy.co.uk
Back to the topic.
Back to the topic.
He could of pulled over right where he stopped and why pull along side the car after stopping behind the carand having he get out again and tell him off…
Pull over let rant and stay clear.
CyberTonTo72 wrote:
Whilst I agree with you, to a point…why should he? He is allowed, nay, permitted to be there…
CyberTonTo72 wrote:
Or, she could’ve not beeped her horn waited 10 seconds and waited quietly at the traffic lights.
I’d be inclined to show the police, point out its untaxed and ask them nicely to impound it, now that would be funny.
Yeah, thanks for proving my
Yeah, thanks for proving my point.
AsOriginalAsYou wrote:
Convoluted bilge isn’t a point.
Look, you disagree with me
Look, you disagree with me or don’t understand (or both).
Calling it bilge is not advancing a conversation and it’s frankly boring.
Google ‘ad hominem’ if you like.
AsOriginalAsYou wrote:
For me to disagree with you, you would need to have a point.
All this is, is a stereotypical rabid reactionary trying to patch his self-esteem on the interweb by calling someone else a racist, sexist or whatever.
No-one cares. You’re like a weaksauce left-wing equivilent of Katie Hopkins and an embarassment to real left wingers who actually do and have worked in the social services with disadvantaged minorities.
unconstituted wrote:
For me to disagree with you, you would need to have a point.
All this is, is a stereotypical rabid reactionary trying to patch his self-esteem on the interweb by calling someone else a racist, sexist or whatever.
No-one cares. You’re like a weaksauce left-wing equivilent of Katie Hopkins and an embarassment to real left wingers who actually do and have worked in the social services with disadvantaged minorities.
— AsOriginalAsYou
Haha, there’s nothing like a good motorist-attacks-cyclist video to trigger a pointless argument amongst readers is there?
Quality entertainment!
MT56ECJ
MT56ECJ
Vauxhal corsa
Not taxed but has current MOT until 28 June 2017 Tax run out 28 June 2016
just go to DVLA web site and put in any vehical details (Number plate and model) and you find out if its taxed and MOT’d
handy if you have a scrote down your road bloking it and give the old bill a tinkle on 101 give them somthing to do
Nice hair
postmandick wrote:
Love this actually. Going to use it when I get beeped for no reason or get a bit of stick from a shout n runner. Must catch at least a few guys out a year! Cheers!
postmandick wrote:
Anyway back to the article.
Her car is also showing on ask mid as insured. However for insurance to be valid the car must be road legal. With no valid tax it is not road legal, therefore she is also uninsured. As well as being a terrible driver.
Has she passed a driving test?
I’ve made my point. I think
I’ve made my point. I think the original criticism stands.
Also, seriously Google ad hominem. Your last paragraph- exactly what I’m talking about.
Please.
Oops should note my previous
Oops should note my previous post was referring to you calling my a left wing Katy Hopkins (whatever that is!)
AsOriginalAsYou wrote:
I’ve made my point. I think the original criticism stands.
Also, seriously Google ad hominem. Your last paragraph- exactly what I’m talking about.
Please.
— AsOriginalAsYou
Oh cringe. Seriously, you out yourself as culturally out of touch while trying to act as a cultural guardian.
Ad hominem applies when you make a point, then I call you a dickwad.
We’re not there yet, you need to make a point. To do that you need to provide logical proof that a racist statement has been made. You’re into this logic stuff, so I want it in proper philosophical form.
Go.
unconstituted wrote:
The point is (now read carefully) you made/supported a racist comment. There is no definition of making a point being valid only with logical proof (whatever that is). Wasn’t hard was it you knob-chucky!
Dikwad? lol.
Dikwad? lol.
I’m sorry, why do you think that someone who talks like that is in a position to demand a standard of others which we clearly fails to reach himself?
Also, pretty sure it would be a Sociological argument or perhaps one of logic which is, I admit, a subset of philosophy but your statement didn’t seem to imply you meant that.
Also, I don’t have all day to spend on the comments section of this website!
Have a read of what I wrote and have a another go at understanding it, rather than firing off another load of abuse.
I’m off down the pub so won’t see this for a few hours.
Plenty of time for a think.
I like her hair
I like her hair
Hoping to see some views on
Hoping to see some views on the incident, instead just a very tiresome argument about wa lame joke. What a waste of time. Facebook comments page surprisingly more bauble on this.
Road.cc. The place for
Road.cc. The place for cyclists who detest the Daily Mail, behave as though they are the Daily Mail.
Happy clappers, she should be
Happy clappers you got to love em, she should be F@@@ING jailed, so you think thats the correct behaviour for the Black or any other community, that behavour breeds Racism.
Well done Jeremy Vine, very well behaved, if she had gone for me or my bike I think the out come would be very very different, I drive alot, sadly alot of motorists do not give a shit about cycling or anything on 2 wheels (i also ride a Ducati) usually on there phone not paying attention and get Irrate when there at fault, No cars dont own the road, I think pedestrians actually have right of way which includes cyclists, no one likes aggressive cyclists but sadly aggressive riding is the safest option, it gets you seen.
gin23deluxe wrote:
what I think a lot of people are having trouble grasping is that the colour of the driver’s skin has no bearing on the case either way. The reason that the comment is racist (rather than the commentator, who I think is just a bit too stupid to really know what they are saying) is that you don’t get comments on driver’s skin colour (or the imagined stabilty of their relationships) if the driver is white.
If there’s any examples where this has happened, then I’ll be glad to be corrected.
We cycle in our communities, and the UKIP/Brexit supporters who think they’re getting some sort of ethnic cleansing are going to be sadly disappointed, so we’re going to be staying a diverse community for sometime yet – so yeah, people who come out with this sort of comment are going to have to get used to be being challenged on it, even on cycle forums. I really can’t see it being something my son is going to be even imagining discussing, the same way I couldn’t imagine the acceptance of diversity we have now being a possibility in my 70’s childhood
Good for Jeremy Vine for putting this up and getting a wider debate going – the sooner everyone starts being just nicer to each other, and not making superficial judgements based purely on appearance, the better. Particularly that ISIS lot, they give that shouty-lady a run for her money
riotgibbon wrote:
Here is an example of an eloquent rephrasing Unconstituted.
And to re-state it again.
The colour of the person’s skin is in no way relevant to the event or any criminality. Yet, it was the first thing people talked about.
Why has it been bought up then? Is it chance? Unlikely.
The comment has focussed on the persons skin colour for no logical reason. Therefore there must be an illogical reason. In this case an illogical assoication of negative characteristics based upon someone’s race or ethnicity
i.e racism.
I also agree that the comment can be racist without wholey disparaging the commentator. We’ve all got to clear our act up with this shit.
AsOriginalAsYou wrote:
You are absolutely useless at this. Horrendous actually.
Oh, ‘someone mentioned skin colour, this is racism’. Okay you 12 year old Twitter warrior.
Is this the best the left can do? No. Because there’s guys like me who know how to properly tackle race and sexism when I want to.
Not one poster here has made one single valid point in tackling the actual original statement. And I have intentionally not given a clue about the direction it would need to go to do that, to see if anyone here has any substance whatsoever.
You’re genuinely weak. No clue at all about black issues.
riotgibbon wrote:
Bit of a reach that isn’t it thinking all UKIP/Brexit voters were expecting ethnic cleansing? I remember voting to leave the EU not for some sort of pogrom.
Subotai wrote:
Exactly! I like the irony that the poster likes to call out prejudice and anyone for being ‘anti-diversity’, yet cannot conceive of a Brexit voter who does not fit their mould of UKIP-supporting-racist-ethnic-cleanser!
I won’t comment on the rest of this, I think enough’s been said!
700c wrote:
Bit of a reach that isn’t it thinking all UKIP/Brexit voters were expecting ethnic cleansing? I remember voting to leave the EU not for some sort of pogrom.
— 700c Exactly! I like the irony that the poster likes to call out prejudice and anyone for being ‘anti-diversity’, yet cannot conceive of a Brexit voter who does not fit their mould of UKIP-supporting-racist-ethnic-cleanser! I won’t comment on the rest of this, I think enough’s been said!— Subotai
yeah, it sort of has some relation to the original post we all got so excited about, doesn’t it? Making an assumption about a group of people based upon a superficial aspect of their appearance/behaviour?
SiRUSH wrote:
Usually poke fun at people I disagree with.
But that’s just embrassing. Wise up.
unconstituted wrote:
Usually poke fun at people I disagree with.
But that’s just embrassing. Wise up.— SiRUSH
Wow.
After a chorus of very eloquent explanations and re-phrasing. The hunt for the last word goes on.
Chapeau!
AsOriginalAsYou wrote:
Usually poke fun at people I disagree with.
But that’s just embrassing. Wise up.
— unconstituted Wow. After a chorus of very eloquent explanations and re-phrasing. The hunt for the last word goes on. Chapeau!— SiRUSH
Waffle is not elegance.
Dodging a request for proof of racism with a cringeworthy mess is not an explanation.
But yes, there has been rephrasing of clichéd kneejerkery.
‘instinctually’?
‘instinctually’?
Well then.
Well then.
Gotta love SJWs and people
Gotta love SJWs and people who reserve the right to be offended at anything.
Mountains out of Molehills.
Let’s move on people, nothing to see here.
Kneejerk waffle merchants. No
Kneejerk waffle merchants. No substance.
When I call out someone for racism or sexism, I know how to do it properly. Not get all tied up in knots rambling blige about whether this is a matter for sociology or philosophy. LOL
Link your Facebook profiles people. Lets see all your BAME friends. Time to turn the mirror around – why the hypersensitivity? Must be some insecurity there.
Facebook now. Go.
unconstituted wrote:
Omg are you seriously going down the “I’m not a racist, some of my best friends are black” road????
You do realise that most of
You do realise that most of what you have said has been personal and abusive right?
Very little of substance has come from you, except from telling us all how we are inferior compared to your standards.
Shall we just agree to disagree?
What a thoroughly unpleasant
What a thoroughly unpleasant and aggressive woman.
Spotted the Graun carrying a
Spotted the Graun carrying a piece on the incident. Worth taking a look at the comments. Large share of them try to find a way to shoehorn in a whine about cyclists. And that’s on a lefty (well faux-lefty at least) newssite.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/31/jeremy-vine-near-miss-cyclists-bad-drivers-roads#comment-82261927
No point going BBC or Daily Heil of course to see what’s being said, that’s full-on dipstick territory.
You can talk about infrastructure, or safety or whatever, but at the end of the day, the UK has a cultural issue that needs something at the institutional level to fix. I think the recent suggestion of cyclist awareness in the driving test is a good place to start.
unconstituted wrote:
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Come on, someone like you should know better than to call the Graun even “faux-lefty”. More like mainstream liberal with lefty heritage and readership. The rot set in when they hired an editor who was a member of the Garrick club.
I agree about the cultural issue on cyclists and the daily mail though.
barbarus wrote:
no, before you post on the Gruaniad, you have to attend a socialist summer-school, with intensive lessons on Marx and RH Tawney. Once certified, you are issued with a special “LeftCard”, which you insert into a usb reader, which along with your fingerprint, confirms your identity and permits you to post comments on articles. This ensures that all content on the Guardian is verifiably “left-wing”, and thus ensures that everything seen there can be represented as such …
the presence of the majority of comments on the site that apparently complain about the left-wing bias of either the original article or other commenters are currently unexplained …
I’ve been a Graun ‘member
I’ve been a Graun ‘member/supporter’ thing for ages. I’m regularly driven to almost bin it (most recently over the Brexit and Corbyn identikit leftie-by-numbers vitriol – mainly from the ‘journalists’) but whenever I read the comments I’m heartened by the quality of some of them, and the debate. Below the line is loads better value – and I’ll happily support that, in a weird roundabout way.
Feck me…utter pish and
Feck me…utter pish and codswallop.
At least Jeremy Vine wasn’t physically injured (save for the swift kick/nudge at the bike by the mentallist driver…)
I hope he hasn’t been reading this shite (…mostly unrelated to the actual incident)
Handbags at dawn would be more entertaining and relevant…in comparison to the inane drivel I’ve just trawled through….think I’ll take a break from the forum and concentrate on the reviews, editorial synopsis and “bike related articles” that occasionally appear on road.cc….
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AsOriginalAsYou wrote:
Look, you disagree with me or don’t understand (or both). Calling it bilge is not advancing a conversation and it’s frankly boring. Google ‘ad hominem’ if you like.
For me to disagree with you, you would need to have a point.
All this is, is a stereotypical rabid reactionary trying to patch his self-esteem on the interweb by calling someone else a racist, sexist or whatever.
No-one cares. You’re like a weaksauce left-wing equivilent of Katie Hopkins and an embarassment to real left wingers who actually do and have worked in the social services with disadvantaged minorities.
Unconstituted, to put it in simple terms, even if you won’t accept that the comment was racist, Yorkshire wallet’s comment, ‘That’s why there’s so many errant fathers in the black community.’ implies that the errant fathers are errant because of the mothers. Which is sexist, unless you have stats to back up that ‘fact’ too?
gawl07 wrote:
Schoolboy error right here.
Getting sucked into the bait – my premise – that stats can disprove racism.
You guys really do blow at this.
This is a cycling site, if you want to earn your stripes, go pick debates on this stuff on right or left wing forums. Many around. You definitely need the practice.
He needs to watch this.
There’s nothing like cooking
There’s nothing like cooking up a full blown incident in order to justify that investment of cameras on the bike and video editting off the bike.
What a timid spoof.
Skylark wrote:
Are you saying that catching incidents like dangerous driving and threatening behaviour on camera aren’t worth the investment?
Just been found guilty.
Just been found guilty.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-38824924