Five cool things coming soon from Specialized, Lusso, RH+, RoadHawk and Scott

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1. Hmm skin fit, no hiding
   Hmm skin fit, no hiding anything in that 🙁

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2. The ‘Shark’ jersey doesn’t

   The ‘Shark’ jersey doesn’t even fit the person in the pic, wrinkled up as fuck.

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   • BehindTheBikesheds wrote:

     The ‘Shark’ jersey doesn’t even fit the person in the pic, wrinkled up as fuck.

     — BehindTheBikesheds

     Luckily that’s not Stu, so it doesn’t matter as he won’t be reviewing it! I’m guessing they just grab any old dude who happens to be around when kit comes in for the photos. As long as it nearly fits thats good enough for a pic.

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3. RH+

   I really liked the look of the Shark collection. It came out back in 2016. I saw it tucked into the corner of a stand at the NEC at the end of last year. It’ll be interesting to see what Stu makes of it. Much like the water resistant/proof jerseys and shorts that other brands have, but with the added bonus of being a complete kit from cap to shoecovers

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4. And to be fair, they only

   And to be fair, they only needed to pull the rms and bottom gripper down a tad, where it creeps to when you’re on a bike is the more important matter…

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5. Will someone, who makes

   Will someone, who makes cameras for bike, please recognise that battery life is the key thing.  

   I don’t care if it can take high def this and that, or at least it could if the battery hadn’t gone flat half an hour ago.

   I used to have a Cyliq rear camera.  That was good, but after a year it wouldn’t hold a charge.  Their front light will tell me when my gas bill needs to be paid and what have you, but it’s a stupid price.   Will someone please make a bike camera that’s simple, overwites from the beginning when it fills a card, has a proper long-life battery (in both senses), takes a good enough image for recording commuting and doesn’t cost the earth.   Surely not too much to ask?

   Is this the one?   Seeing as there’s no mention of battery life, I doubt  it.

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   • nniff wrote:

     Is this the one?   Seeing as there’s no mention of battery life, I doubt  it.

     — nniff

     From the Q&A on the Amazon listing:

     In terms of battery life, the internal battery will last for around 90 minutes but our waterproof battery pack extension (sold separately) will power your camera for a further 4.5 hours.

     So, no. (Unless you’re willing to contemplate external charging bricks and related wiring attachments etc.)

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   • nniff wrote:

     Will someone, who makes cameras for bike, please recognise that battery life is the key thing.  

     I don’t care if it can take high def this and that, or at least it could if the battery hadn’t gone flat half an hour ago.

     I used to have a Cyliq rear camera.  That was good, but after a year it wouldn’t hold a charge.  Their front light will tell me when my gas bill needs to be paid and what have you, but it’s a stupid price.   Will someone please make a bike camera that’s simple, overwites from the beginning when it fills a card, has a proper long-life battery (in both senses), takes a good enough image for recording commuting and doesn’t cost the earth.   Surely not too much to ask?

     Is this the one?   Seeing as there’s no mention of battery life, I doubt  it.

     — nniff

     Says on their website it is 90 minutes, no mention of battery capacity or availability of spares so you can swap out.

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6. You say battery life then ask

   You say battery life then ask for loop recording, good image and low cost.

    

   Good image works against battery life as does low cost, low cost also goes against battery life.

    

   You might be looking for an existing camera with a mobile charger…

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7. Not ‘good’, ‘good enough’ –

   Not ‘good’, ‘good enough’ – there’s a big difference.  Loop recording is simple enough, just overwrite instead of stopping, so that you don’t have to faff around wiping the card all the time.  And as for cost, I don’t want GPS, speedo, Heart rate, tram lines, lights and what have you,  just a decent run time, an image quality sufficient to read number plates and that’s about it.  Surely not too much to ask.  A Fly6 did most of that, and I’d even be happy with buying a replacement battery for one of those, but it’s a sealed unit (although a replacemet is possible and described on t’internet somewhere).

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   • nniff wrote:

     Not ‘good’, ‘good enough’ – there’s a big difference…  And as for cost, I don’t want GPS, speedo, Heart rate, tram lines, lights and what have you,  just a decent run time, an image quality sufficient to read number plates and that’s about it.  Surely not too much to ask.  A Fly6 did most of that

     — nniff

      

     I suppose that’s the thing though, some want HD, some want a do-it-all, some want GPS overlays. My commute isn’t that long so battery life is low down, I quite like a camera that connects to my phone so i can quickly delete non-important footage. GoPro seem to be centred around 4k so the market seems to be looking at unnecessarily high image quality at an increasingly high price.

      

     Is there a mass market for what you’re looking for, i mean the demographics on this site are probably skewed. But if you or I took these ideas (loop, battery, average picture), hit the kickstarter route, went through product development and released it would we wipe our own faces? Or would Johnny Sportive be on here asking why it didn’t include a light, or wasn’t smaller, or HD?

      

      

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     • alansmurphy wrote:

       Not ‘good’, ‘good enough’ – there’s a big difference…  And as for cost, I don’t want GPS, speedo, Heart rate, tram lines, lights and what have you,  just a decent run time, an image quality sufficient to read number plates and that’s about it.  Surely not too much to ask.  A Fly6 did most of that

       — alansmurphy

        

       I suppose that’s the thing though, some want HD, some want a do-it-all, some want GPS overlays. My commute isn’t that long so battery life is low down, I quite like a camera that connects to my phone so i can quickly delete non-important footage. GoPro seem to be centred around 4k so the market seems to be looking at unnecessarily high image quality at an increasingly high price.

        

       Is there a mass market for what you’re looking for, i mean the demographics on this site are probably skewed. But if you or I took these ideas (loop, battery, average picture), hit the kickstarter route, went through product development and released it would we wipe our own faces? Or would Johnny Sportive be on here asking why it didn’t include a light, or wasn’t smaller, or HD?

        

        

       — nniff

       There absolutely is a market, I want something to replace my cheap, but OK SJCAM, the number 1 requirement is long battery life. Cost of larger batteries is minimal, the battery for the SJCAM is less than $20. An extra $40 of battery capacity and support for micro SDXC is all it would take.  Any remotely serious cyclist is going to be doing rides longer than 90 minutes. Anyone who brings a decent camera with, say 6+ hours of recording will make a killing.

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       • imaca wrote:

         Not ‘good’, ‘good enough’ – there’s a big difference…  And as for cost, I don’t want GPS, speedo, Heart rate, tram lines, lights and what have you,  just a decent run time, an image quality sufficient to read number plates and that’s about it.  Surely not too much to ask.  A Fly6 did most of that

         — imaca

          

         I suppose that’s the thing though, some want HD, some want a do-it-all, some want GPS overlays. My commute isn’t that long so battery life is low down, I quite like a camera that connects to my phone so i can quickly delete non-important footage. GoPro seem to be centred around 4k so the market seems to be looking at unnecessarily high image quality at an increasingly high price.

          

         Is there a mass market for what you’re looking for, i mean the demographics on this site are probably skewed. But if you or I took these ideas (loop, battery, average picture), hit the kickstarter route, went through product development and released it would we wipe our own faces? Or would Johnny Sportive be on here asking why it didn’t include a light, or wasn’t smaller, or HD?

          

          

         — alansmurphy

         There absolutely is a market, I want something to replace my cheap, but OK SJCAM, the number 1 requirement is long battery life. Cost of larger batteries is minimal, the battery for the SJCAM is less than $20. An extra $40 of battery capacity and support for micro SDXC is all it would take.  Any remotely serious cyclist is going to be doing rides longer than 90 minutes. Anyone who brings a decent camera with, say 6+ hours of recording will make a killing.

         — nniff

         This is an assumption but based on the videos I see posted on YouTube I would say that the majority of these cameras are used for commutes. I am pretty sure that the majority of bicycle commutes are less than 90 minutes so that battery capacity would be suitable for the assumed majority market and the addition of a battery pack opens it up to the large(?) minority that will want to go further. Those that go further may indeed be already carrying a suitable multi-port external battery pack for their other devices (satnav, phone, etc.) meaning that it is no extra burden.
         It makes good business sense to design your product for the mass market to reduce production costs through higher volumes and produce add-ons to broaden the appeal to the minority markets.

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8. I have been on the lookout

   I have been on the lookout for such a camera myself, so far I have only come up with the Mio mivue 560 and the Sena Prism Tube. The Mio can be had for 80 quid and seems to have the best batery life. It claims 2.5 hours but some reviewers claim to be getting over 3 hours. The Sena is 109 quid but has better picture and sound quality and is more user friendly. Battery life for that one is 2 to 2.5 hours and they can both record on a loop. Them’s your options. 

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