On episode 69 of the road.cc Podcast, we delve into the reasons and behavioural patterns that underpin most, if not all, of the 887 (and counting) examples of close passes and dangerous driving that make up our Near Miss of the Day series, aided by a road safety expert currently undertaking a PhD study on the relationship between motorists and cyclists on the road.
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The intrepid researcher in question is Will Cubbin, the manager of the Safer Essex Roads Partnership, who combines his day job attempting to keep the roads safe with part-time doctoral research at Anglia Ruskin University, where he explores the very behaviour that makes them dangerous in the first place.
Inspired to dive into academia following an unfortunate encounter with a close passing driver, who lambasted him for being ‘in the middle of the road’, Will chats to Ryan about his PhD research, which attempts to understand how a driver’s knowledge of cycling can affect their actions on the road.
He also explains the interesting methodology behind his new co-authored study – titled ‘Close passes caught on camera: How knowledge and behavioural norms relate to perceptions of liability when cars overtake cyclists’ – which involved assessing the responses of 239 UK motorists to eight video clips of real-life close pass incidents submitted to Essex Police in 2020.
In the study, Will and his co-authors assessed these road users’ reactions to close passes to understand the effect of cycling experience, knowledge of recommended cyclist road positioning, and (rather alarmingly) a driver’s tendency to express anger behind the wheel on the way individuals perceive and approach close passes – and, crucially, how at fault they would deem a cyclist who has nearly been clipped by a dangerous driver. (Spoiler: Those who admit to using their vehicle as a means of expressing anger are less likely to view a driver as culpable for a close pass, instead pinning the blame on the cyclist. Who knew?)
> The Highway Code for cyclists
During the interview, Will explains how simple actions by cyclists designed to improve their safety on the road – such as taking up the middle of a lane while approaching a traffic island – can be viewed by some motorists, with limited or no knowledge of the Highway Code, as a “character flaw”, one that pigeonholes the safety-conscious cyclist as “selfish” (or worse), rather than the result of external factors on the road.
The Safer Essex Roads Partnership manager also gives us a sneak peek into his latest research – which explores cyclists’ positioning from a motorist’s perspective – and outlines his ambition to use his research, in tandem with his day job, to educate drivers across the UK about safe cycling behaviours, “adjusting their expected social norms” on the road (which at the moment tend to negatively characterise cyclists as an anger-inducing hindrance), and improving safety for all road users.
In part 2, Ryan and Suvi catch up with road.cc and off.road.cc contributor Matt Page, who is also one of the people behind the sold out Battle of the Beach gravel (and sand, obvs) event that is taking place between the 6-7 April. With UK road racing experiencing numerous struggles and diminishing numbers, are gravel events what is needed to make cycling events in Britain boom again?
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46 thoughts on ““Some drivers see safe cycling as a character flaw”: the fight for fewer close passes + the UK’s booming gravel scene”
Drivers who hate cyclists in
Drivers who hate cyclists in shocking admission that they don’t like it when those fucking cyclists have the audacity to dictate when they should be able to overtake dangerously. Who would have thought.
So whats the best thing to do
So whats the best thing to do as a cyclist, stay near the edge of the road and put up with a dangerously close pass, or ride in the middle of your lane and risk irritating a nutcase?
Use the tool that best suits
Use the tool that best suits the circumstances at that moment on that section of road. Each position is a decision and either may be appropriate. The important thing is to be aware of the options and to build experience using them.
ribena wrote:
Just take off and nuke them from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure
Just take off and nuke them
Just take off and nuke them from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure
Is that Hicks in Aliens?
(No subject)
The latter, IMO. 99.99% of
The latter, IMO. 99.99% of the issues I get with drivers are down to driver ineptitude rather than outright malice, and you need to actively prevent them from doing dumb shit. The way I see it, if you hug the kerb, you’ll be killed by an inept (but not malicious) driver “just trying to squeeze through” long before you even meet a nucase.
BalladOfStruth wrote:
Just don’t make a big deal of it.
As you approach a road narrowing or something like that – or if there is oncoming traffic and there’s no way someone behind can safely overtake – then just drift to your right (in the UK, obviously!) so you end up in primary.
But don’t make a big deal out of it – don’t actively move over as if you are purposefully holding up the progress of the Law Abiding Motorist® tailgating you, just drift over nice and smooth (as is your right).
I suspect that perceived incompetence and failure to hold a line is probably less likely to aggravate the typical Law Abiding Motorist®.
its tricky, I still find some
its tricky, I still find some drivers react to the drift technique even if its more subtle than a block pass move, but I do seem to encounter more than a fair share of nutcases on the road, who are instantly triggered if they cant immediately drive past you regardless of the situation.
its almost like because youre making them have to think, it upsets them
stonojnr wrote:
You mean they think?
The latter everytime. Being
The latter everytime. Being seen and managing driver behaviour works.
May I suggest that this bit
May I suggest that this bit of the title of the study
“… when cars overtake cyclists … “
be amended to
“… when drivers overtake cyclists… “
?
Unless we change our language and thinking, we face a steeper uphill struggle to make cycling a safe mode of transport.
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Tesla drivers ?♂️
Tesla drivers ?♂️
You could change the title to
You could change the title to ‘some drivers see safe use of the roads by any other user, not just cyclists, as a character flaw’. If you’re not steaming around, over accelerating in and out of every junction/roundabout are you even a good driver?
Even driving. I was driving
Even driving. I was driving to my parents last night and wondered if I had found the invisibility button somehow. All in a journey of about 8 miles.
Idiot in a ford pickup steamed through the first roundabout oblivious to my presence to his right.
Cut up on the next roundabout by someone using the wrong lane.
BMW being a BMW and pulled out of a side road on the right as I approached, luckily changing his mind at the last minute as I had no time to brake, he’d left it so late.
Sounds like a typical dash
Sounds like a typical dash cam UK YouTube episode!
I was out and about yesterday
I was out and about yesterday in the car for most of the day, and I just couldnt believe how dangerous it felt, with people just steaming round constantly in some really poor conditions both weather and road wise, I bet no wonder there are so many crashes.
Welcome to Surrey!
Welcome to Surrey!
NotNigel wrote:
— NotNigelI’ve lost count of the number of people who have told me that they drive better when they drive faster.
Are they the ones who also
Are they the ones who also say they drive better after a few drinks?
I had someone tell me on the
I had someone tell me on the local rag that it is better to speed because then you concentrate more.
Isn’t that what people who
.
Roads are full of dangerous
Roads are full of dangerous nutters.
Road racing is struggling, gravel riding is booming.
Obviously no connection between these two stories.
Well a large part of that is
Well a large part of that is that its bloody hard to stage safe road races especially when the idea of inconveniencing drivers for a day is so abhorrent to the majority of the population. The fact it would be cyclists doing it is simply beyond the pale.
I’m utterly fed-up with
I’m utterly fed-up with drivers’ close passes through either ignorance, incompetence or spite, although it seems to have become marginally better compared to e.g. 12 months ago.
There may be more to this than meets the eye. A clubmate is a driving test examiner and in a fairly recent conversation I asked hypothetically should the UK driving test should include a psycometric test, i.e. weed-out the latent or blatent nutters. The answer was yes: draw your own conclusions …
John G wrote:
Except psychometric tests are notoriously unreliable and not worth the paper they’re on!
Results can change minute by minute
Gimpl wrote:
Results can change minute by minute — Gimpl
Lol, yeah. A psychometric test is literally just an exercise in finding out whether someone is capable of prepping for a test.
Wingguy wrote:
Aren’t many exams?
brooksby wrote:
Not the improv exam
hawkinspeter wrote:
Read this earlier on twitter
Read this earlier on twitter
“As a driver it creates bad blood everytime a virtue cyclist hogs the road and projects highway code entitlement in making life difficult to get past them and raises animosity and encreases driving work load.”
That driver should not be
That driver should not be allowed on the road.
I honestly don’t think it’s
I honestly don’t think it’s worth getting worked up by anything you read on soshul meejah unless you know exactly who wrote it and why. There are literally hundreds of thousands of fake accounting churning out messages whose only purpose is to stir up anger and divide society.
Don’t know if you’ve been on
Don’t know if you’ve been on the roads recently…
Not for a while,
Not for a while, unfortunately. But what has that got to do with what I wrote above?
Incidentally, does this gentleman remind you of anyone?
https://www.geo.de/wissen/selbstbildnis-im-pelzrock_30128080-30166630.html
Is it Kirk Hammett?
Is it Kirk Hammett?
Who said I was worked up ?
Who said I was worked up ?
It was a timely post that reflects many posts I have read before on x and in local rags. They may not be representative, but cyclists are the only group who get targetted. Have you seen anything on horsists or runners ?
I don’t read x, and I haven’t
I don’t read x, and I haven’t seen anything like that in any of the local rags around here.
Runners and horsists aren’t really as vulnerable as cyclists, so I don’t think there’s a lot of point in comparing them.
Where was comparing the
Where was comparing the vulnerability?
I guess you have never walked in rural or semi rural areas either.
Are you Martin73’s brother?
I was comparing the
I was comparing the vulnerability. Runners and horse riders don’t tend to get hit by cars. So what drivers or anyone else thinks about them is somewhat irrelevant. Or have I misunderstood what you are getting at?
I don’t know who or what Martin73 is.
I don’t know why you
I don’t know why you introduced vulnerability which was nothing to do with my posts. I guess you are arguing for the sake of it.
Then please can you explain
Then please can you explain why you mentioned runners or horses? Who cares what some nutter thinks about them? If a driver doesn’t like runners, then 99.99% of the time it’s not going to affect runners. If a driver doesn’t like cyclists and he happens to be right behind you when you out riding, then you could have a problem.
I am not arguing for the sake of it. If anyone is doing that it’s you. I am not really arguing at all. I just raised a couple of points.
“Some drivers see safe
“Some drivers see
safecycling as a character flaw”FTFY.
Statistically I’m due a world
Statistically I’m due a world-class-arsehole close-pass any day now…
Look on the bright side. If
Look on the bright side. If you toss a fair coin 100 times and the result is heads every time, then when you toss the coin for the 101st time, the probability of heads is still 1/2.
The study is spot on. I had a
The study is spot on. I had a textbook example of this today. Cycling on a rural single track road with passing places. Driver comes up behind and immediately beeps (for me to ‘get out of the way’). I point to the passing place only a few metres ahead where I will be delighted to let him pass. He instead revs his engine and pushes past me with inches to spare. Of course a car comes round the corner in the opposite direction and he pulls into the very passing place I indicated.
I tap on his windscreen intending to point out politely but firmly the pointlessness of his dangerous close pass and what the passing places are for. I don’t get a word in. The man in his sixties jumped out of his car, apoplectic, frothing at the mouth told me not to speak, complained I was ‘cycling like an idiot’ (by which I believe he meant refusing to ride in the gutter to facilitate hisclose pass) and threatened to throw me in the hedge (not sure if he meant with his car as he was not in great shape). I I calmly invited him to repeat his threat in front of a witness and he got back in his car and sped off. My conclusion is per the study this driver has not cycled since early childhood if at all, hasn’t read the Highway Code for over 40 years and my cycling perfectly normally has triggered his anger issues. Is there any hope? If the anger, as the study suggests, is triggered by a baseless belief among many drivers that cyclists are ‘selfishly hogging the road’ , there should be a a huge education campaign coupled with enforcement as there has been for drink driving.