On December 15th last year, road.cc reader Kionne Potter went on his usual one-hour lunchtime training loop, the footage he sent us today shows the shocking road rage attack that followed from a driver who repeatedly tried to ram the West Midlands cyclist from his bike.
The motorist involved admitted driving without due care and received three penalty points and a £100 fine after West Mercia Police downgraded the report from assault to dangerous driving, and then once more to driving without due care, saying there was insufficient evidence for a more severe prosecution.
In his own words, Kionne reacted to the unnecessary dangerous close pass on the A491 Kidderminster Road in Hagley, instinctively throwing an arm up in frustration.
“The motorist then slowed down and as I approached him he wound down his window and shouted abuse at me and instructed me to ‘get off my f***ing bike now’.
“He continued this abuse throughout the incident but you cannot hear most of it. He then deliberately prevented me from getting back into the lane I needed to be in, if I increased my speed so did he and if I slowed down he did also. He made four or five attempts to hit me which I had to avoid and then he tried to pin me into the gutter whilst still shouting ‘get off your f***ing bike now’.
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“When I got in front of him he then tried to hit me from behind, you can hear the car rev hard and hear wheelspin from the hard acceleration, he then made one last swipe to the left before driving off.
“I tried really hard to get away from him but he did everything he could to prevent me escaping. Although the camera got some decent footage it still missed a lot that happened, and because the GoPro Hero 8 is so good at image stabilisation it smooths out a lot of my evasive manoeuvres so it looks a lot less dramatic than it was.”
The driver was apologetic once the police were involved, citing relationship problems for his uncharacteristic behaviour, and after the report was twice downgraded by West Mercia Police, he was fined and given penalty points.
road.cc has contacted West Mercia Police for a further comment on the footage.
104 thoughts on “Shocking footage of road rage driver repeatedly trying to ram cyclist off bike”
The combination of the police
The combination of the police / courts are a complete joke.
If the driver in this video had taken 5 swings at a stranger victim a 1kg hammer they would now be facing a custodial sentence for assault.
For some reason taking 5 swings at a stranger with a 1500kg hammer at 30mph is only worth a £100 fine.
Anyone who has been on the receiving end of this sort of attack will also know that cycling feels very unsafe for a long time afterwards because there’s the constant fear of running into the same driver / lunatic.
That is NOT driving without f
That is NOT driving without f-ing care and attention.
The motorist knew damn well what they were doing, so clearly were paying attention.
Dangerous driving and/or assault, in my book.
Unbelievable…
100% – he’s driving with
100% – he’s driving with total care and attention to do harm!
Institutionally anti-cyclist
Institutionally anti-cyclist
3 points is what you get if
3 points is what you get if you set off a speed camera by doing 44 in a 40 zone when the road is deserted. How can this carry the same degree of punishment?
Thats appalling. Clearly
Thats appalling. Clearly using a car as a weapon.
Insufficient evidence is the
Insufficient evidence is the lying dodge routinely used by the police when they don’t want to do anything much, or when the driver has paid someone to bin the charge. The other favoured dodge is ‘it’s nothing to do with us, it’s that CPS’.
Would have got a bullet to
Would have got a bullet to the chest in Texas…
joe9090 wrote:
In this country the psychos just run people over…..
joe9090 wrote:
Deservedly IMO. What an absolute tonsil that driver is.
A Class.
Enough said.
A Class.
Enough said.
GLA, the poor mans SUV, but
GLA, the poor mans SUV, but it does have the three pointed star so he can use it as a penis extension.
The angry apparition in the
The angry apparition in the mirror is the stuff of nightmares…
That face deserves a cleat
That face deserves a cleat mark.
Not really surprising he’s
Not really surprising he’s got relationship issues: he’s an arrogant, selfish bully.
Some people just deserve to
Some people just deserve to be beaten to death… with a wet fish.
0-0 wrote:
Seems harsh.
What’s the fish ever done to upset you?
0-0 wrote:
What have you got against wet fish? Molotov cocktail his car and/or house preferably with him in it.
Wet presumably to avoid
Wet presumably to avoid charge of battery? With a suitably big fish though you could pollacks someone with a single blow and leave them dace-d.
Ah fish puns – keep reeling
Ah fish puns – keep reeling them off…
Cod have mercy upon us all.
Cod have mercy upon us all.
Argos74 wrote:
May the piece of cod that passeth understanding, keep your hearts and minds in the knowledge and love of cod.
Personally, I think I’d go
Personally, I think I’d go for a pike as my weapon of choice. Or possibly a sword(fish).
It was Colonel Mustard, with
It was Colonel Mustard, with the pipefish, in the aquarium. The sadist probably uses a filefish, or for deniability just pull a triggerfish and hide the body in a trunkfish.
Presumably after using a
Presumably after using a sawfish and perhaps a hammerhead to make it fit?
Quote:
pretty sure he’s got cause and effect back to front. “Uncharacteristic” is probably also a bit of a lie.
Kionne, I feel your
Kionne, I feel your frustration. It’s happened to me. These people don’t care. This could’ve gone badly. He needs to pull over and calm down.
That’s why I have a bottle of pepperspray in my handlebar bag. Spray him and brakes on. Take another route.
Change your route for a couple of weeks too (after the event).
What country are you writing
What country are you writing from, Fignion, because in the UK that would be treated as assault and you’d be the one getting arrested…
Not self defence?
Not self defence?
Fignion’s ghost wrote:
If you’re carrying pepper spray in the UK, it would be a firearms offence before it becomes an assault. If caught, you’d bein the same shit you’d be in if you were carrying a gun.
Not even that. If you grab a
Not even that. If you grab a rock or a stick to protect yourself that’s fine. If you carry something that can inflict harm that can be deemed as premeditated. From what I can make out is if you squirt your bidon or lash out with your pump you would be fine. Though that could escalate things more. I usually fall back on the stand-off (5mins is my record) or quickly take a turning while behind. Also don’t recommend passing if catch up at lights at risk of being doored.
If you carry anything with
If you carry anything with the purpose of using it as a weapon, even in self-defence, it becomes an offence. Pepper spray is, itself, illegal; carrying hair spray, or a comb, or your keys between your fingers for the purpose of protecting yourself is illegal.
Apart form that, defending yourself is not:
‘get off [your] f***ing bike now’ … that, sir, is the last thing you want me to do.
Pepper spray is illegal in
Pepper spray is illegal in the UK, though if for example you squirted WD40 or chain lube in the driver’s face that would be deemed self defence as cans of WD40 or chain lube are not weapons and are also something a cyclist would reasonably be expected to be carrying.
Ask Bertrand Gachot, he got
Ask Bertrand Gachot, he got six months.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/37146829
As others have said – almost
As others have said – almost certainly you’d be in the frame and likely get a far harsher punishment than the driver (even if he’d killed someone).
Rule #1: don’t make threats (even on social meeja). It’s not very classy and also on occasion the police like collecting this. All admissible in court I believe.
Rule #2: as is noted (and illustrated by the sentence) if you want to do ill to someone and not do the time for it just use a car…
Rule #0: spending your time in a homicidal rage – or even just being a powerful keyboard warrior – isn’t a good use of your life. Unless you happen to be in charge of a major world power. Even then you probably get ulcers and have sleepless nights about your subordinates or the thought of large parts of the world cackling at memes of you riding bare-chested …
There is an identification
There is an identification spray that is legal to carry in the UK. Might help the police if the vehicle owner fails to identify who was behind the wheel!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00ANM3624
The reviews on Amazon have
The reviews on Amazon have someone saying they got in trouble even for using that stuff.
Typical British situation of legal to buy, sell, or own, but not to use…
It’s legal to buy and own,
It’s legal to buy and own, but if you use it, you would be committing a common assault (unless used in self-defence). Same as squirting water or throwing an egg. The only downside is the impact of a purple face and car interior is probably greater, so it might be taken more seriously.
This one seems really odd, as
This one seems really odd, as the driver had already cleared the cyclist and was able to continue without even being slowed down. Had something happened prior to the video we’re seeing that explains this?
It mentioned that the cyclist
It mentioned that the cyclist raised their arm after the pass, and the driver had stopped to argue/abuse them. Ideally you’d not ever want to be in front of a driver who is annoyed, but then again you just want to get away…
Got it. Not excusing the
Got it. Not excusing the driving which deserved to be prosecuted as dangerous driving, but if the cyclist hadn’t gesticulated, the incident wouldn’t have happened.
Might be a moral to that story somewhere.
Lance Strongarm wrote:
Lance Strongarm wrote:
“Shut up and get to the back of the bus, Rosa. You’ll only make the white folks hate us even more.”
Give your fucking head a wobble.
So, in the last day, middle
So, in the last day, middle class commenters have compared themselves to war victims and now slaves/systemic marginalisation.
Has any group in the history of humanity ever wallowed in more self-pity with less justification?
Lance Strongarm wrote:
Yes, actually, you wouldn’t remember, being a new name hereabouts, but there used to be this complete arsehole calling himself Nigel Garage on this forum who would whine like a baby about how poor little Tories were the only group it was acceptable to attack and how they were “the most unfairly and viciously vilified group in the country.” God he was a whingy little git, glad he’s not around any more.
Rendel Harris wrote:
I think incomplete back then, given their subsequent development of the role.
TheBillder wrote:
Yes, actually, you wouldn’t remember, being a new name hereabouts, but there used to be this complete arsehole
— TheBillder I think incomplete back then, given their subsequent development of the role.— Rendel Harris
When Boris’s new press officer said of him “He’s not a complete clown” I sent a polite query asking if that meant he’d had his appendix out. No answer as yet…
Rendel Harris wrote:
Well love him or loathe him, he seems to have taught you a thing or two – look at the gender-neutral insult you just made, rather than the usual reference to female genitalia or dogs
Rendel Harris wrote:
Yes, actually, you wouldn’t remember, being a new name hereabouts, but there used to be this complete arsehole calling himself Nigel Garage on this forum who would whine like a baby about how poor little Tories were the only group it was acceptable to attack and how they were “the most unfairly and viciously vilified group in the country.” God he was a whingy little git, glad he’s not around any more.— Lance Strongarm
Not sure about that but wasn’t there some chap who was sanctioned for something (racist / anti-semitic if I recall rightly) who then popped back up with a name like “YouAreAllCyberBullies”?
Still, all for robust good humour!
EDIT: or at least that’s the story this website tells – there may be something darker afoot though. I better check for the real truth (alternative facts) on Infowars / RT International etc.
Lance Strongarm wrote:
Good grief Loophole, you still here? I expect you have friends that constantly look at their watches when you visit.
its certainly a frustrating
its certainly a frustrating outcome, as you are left to feel someones actually tried several times to use their car to injure you, for no reason other than you ride a bike and raised an arm to them, and theyve got a punishment nothing more serious than someone who had maybe a momentary minor lapse of concentration and went slightly over the speed limit.
but I dont see a jury convicting the driver for dangerous driving for that footage alone, and careless driving does account for aggressive driving as a factor, so dont get too hung up on the name of the resultant charge making it sound less than it is, its easily capable of handing out lots of points and large fines if necessary, and thats the letdown really it should have been in the 4-6 points with a bigger fine at the very least IMO.
the thing that strikes me most about encounters like this though, is the driver close passes you, you react understandably by raising an arm or hand it doesnt matter which as it in no way gives license for what happens next. But that triggers the driver in to his anger outburst, which means they were looking in their rear mirror waiting for your reaction, which means the close pass was a deliberate act to try and start a confrontation with you, basically the guy is looking for a fight and using a car to fight you with.
But that part never gets tackled by the police, or the prosecution, or society as a whole, even though its clearly not normal behaviour.
3 points and £100 fine means
3 points and £100 fine means it was dealt with as a fixed penalty. It should have been sent to court to be dealt with where a the points/fine could have been higher (although that is by no means certain of course!).
Awavey wrote:
Excatly this. This has happened to me a few times. Car aggressivly passes you, usually with excessive revving then cutting in early, then you can clearly see them looking in the mirror for a reaction. That is pre-meditated so should be classed as an assualt. Probably difficult to prove though.
There is something seriously
There is something seriously wrong in the UK justice system. In todays Newark Advertiser
A man has been found guilty on two counts of fishing illegally, including netting two critically endangered species.
Graca, 50, was proved guilty in his absence and ordered to pay a total penalty of £861 — a fine of £660, costs of £135 and a victim surcharge of £66.
It’s the feudal contruct
It’s the feudal contruct dating back to the Normans.
Illegal fishing is an attack on the landed gentry’s wealth – so attracts a serious punishment.
Hurting a cylist (read serf) is not seen as a serious crime – so attracts a derisory punishment.
1) What’s the relationship of
1) What’s the relationship of this guy to the police / CPS? I think we should be told…
2) What additional evidence would be required for “sufficient evidence”? (Presumably a dead cyclist with car-sized tyre tracks across them – although on thinking that doesn’t always do it either).
Should have been a section 59
Should have been a section 59 all day long. Unbelievable, the Police ar shambolic. He must be a mate of a copper.
how to prove deliberate
how to prove deliberate proximity intent; apply contents of water bottle through open drivers-side window.
The UK “justice” system is a
The UK “justice” system is a complete and utter joke.
Custoldial sentence and a lengthy ban should be minimum for this.
That driver will 100% do this again, until someone is seriously injured or killed.
its quite simple at this
its quite simple at this point if the police won’t do anything there are other people that will, the police are corrupt here in Canada as well, i’ve stopped waiting for them and decided to “figure things out myself”
don’t interact with them then, you have their license plate, pretty easy to figure out where they live and work…
That’s nothing! A couple of
That’s nothing! A couple of years ago I was rammed from behind for arguing about a close pass in front of 20+ witnesses. I had no video camera. The police lost my statement and then three months later when they took another, decided the best policy was to get him to write me a letter of apology and buy me a new coat. Here’s a picture of him stood over me screaming abuse after he had hit me. The Audi is his, the ladies are protecting me.
Driving without due care?
Driving without due care? that was dangerous driving all day long; having said that, I would never try to pass someone that is brake checking.. just dangerous and certain to elevate the road rage.
You are a very wise man Mr
You are a very wise man Mr grOg
He wasn’t brake-checking me,
He wasn’t brake-checking me, he was trying to get me to stop. Nothing good would have come from me stopping.
Road CC – you should collate
Road CC – you should collate all these incidents and send them to Dominic Raab – Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice for judicial review
https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/secretary-of-state-for-justice
Raab? isn’t he still trying
Raab? isn’t he still trying to figure out where Dover is and what Dover does?
This guy should have had his
This guy should have had his car crushed, no doubt. Here’s what I want to suggest, the next time you are closed passed by some arse in a metal box and you quite naturally shout, or raise your arm, and the arse then decides he’s (usually an he but not always) offended by you and decides to then continue to drive dangerously etc just stop. Yep stop, pull up at the side of the road and wait for them to bugger off. Do not try to remonstrate, you already know how that will go, do not try and nip back infront, just wait for them to go. There’s only one winner in a battle of ego’s with a BIG metal box and it’s not me or you on our bikes.
Unfortunately you are 100%
Unfortunately you are 100% correct.
You just have to let the drver get away with it
I’m not sure what the answer
I’m not sure what the answer is but I’m pretty sure giving in to bullies is not the way to go. I suspect many Ukranians will agree with me on this one.
There a big difference in
There a big difference in getting cut off by a car while riding a bike and to what happening in Ukreane But the point is a car wil always win agents a cyclist You have it on camera just let the driver go and send the footage to the police No need to get hurt or killed because of someones bad driving.
Well I’m sorry to tell you
Well I’m sorry to tell you that bullies do win and quite often. Since you brought up Ukraine the UK government has sanctioned a few Russians, but only after giving them 30 days notice – so the bullies win. At the other end of the scale the DWP has sanctioned 50000 universal credit claimants – so again bullies win. Here’s a thought experiment, imagine standing up to a bully in a small car, you rant rave etc and then the bully in the small car knocks you off, because they’re a bully – you loose. Bullies by definition always pick fights they can win. So my opinion hasn’t changed stop and let them sod off.
Of course I agree in principle with what you say but unfortunately it doesn’t survive contact with reality.
VIPcyclist wrote:
Sort of. In my experience “Bullies by definition always pick fights they think they can win – or more often where they don’t think there will be any resistance”. Or more succinctly: “They don’t want a fight – they want a win”.
The problem is deciding whether it’s a) the kind that is “trying it on” and will back down if the threat doesn’t work or b) the kind that won’t. You also need to be very sure that you can handle any resulting conflict. That means a brutally honest look at yourself and your abilities, and continual practice. If you’re on a bike and they’re in a car in one sense it doesn’t matter. Escalating confrontation will always be a high-risk strategy because of the power inbalance. If it goes badly your grieving relatives will also have a hard time getting any conviction and even if that happens the sentence is unlikely to feel like justice.
Quite agree in the case of Putin and cronies this isn’t a good analogy. They possess the resources to beat almost anyone. I’ve heard analysts say that the regime has painted itself into a corner / burnt their own boats in this case. So no backing down, it’s deliver some kind of conquest or fall from power.
Since you bring up Ukraine.
Since you bring up Ukraine. What do you think would have happened if sanctions had been used after Crimea? Letting bullies get away with it encourages them to continue.
Bungle_52 wrote:
Sanctions were used after Russia annexed Crimea.
Of course Vladimir Putin would turn what you’ve written on its head and claim that the Eastward Nato expansion and EU imperialism is bullying… not that I condone this invasion but the situation in Ukraine is (as per usual) far more nuanced than the conventionally accepted Western narrative.
I don’t really understand why you are comparing a clip of an idiot driving a car to what is happening in Ukraine btw.
Caltrops are an effective
Caltrops are an effective means of mediation too. Especially at low speed. The springs from old clothes pegs can be a useful tool. Doubles up as a cycle tool and can be used to pick out crud from those hard to reach places.
I don’t think stopping to
I don’t think stopping to have that fight they’re trying to force would be good advice for everyone.
I’d say get off the road, cycle away on the pavement and get as far away from the road and them as possible.
First of all I’d like to
First of all I’d like to thank road.cc for asking the police for a comment and I look forward to reading reply or the fact that they will not comment which is useful infomation in itself. I think this should happen more often as I’ve said before.
Secondly. When are the government going to realise that people are not going to get out of cars and on to bikes while drivers like this are allowed on the roads.
It seems to me that driving has come to be viewed as a necessary part of life and that it is unreasonable to ask drvers to concentrate fully while in charge of a vehicle or to control their temper when they percieve that someone is willfully impeding their progress. As others have said, juries, magistrates and judges think “there but for the grace of god go I”. There is no doubt that this driving falls “well below the standard of a competent and careful driver”, the problem is that the cps are not confident that the courts will convict. The case of the lorry driver on the Witney bypass springs to mind. There needs to be a change in the nation’s mindset.
May be the Think! campaign (link below) will make a start down this road, has anyone come across it yet, I haven’t.
https://www.think.gov.uk/campaign/highway-code-changes/
OK, time’s up Mr Plod.
OK, time’s up Mr Plod.
West Mercia Police has failed to show any interest in caring about cyclists’ safety. I have reported driver aggression and threats of harm by drivers and nothing has been done. Friends of mine have been forced off the road and nothing has been done.
If fuckers like the driver of VE21 KTT can get away with this sort of thing then it’s time for cyclists to carry a weapon. And yes, I’ll fucking USE it if I really have to – but it will only ever be absolutely 100% in self-defence when my life is threatened. And I am sure West Mercia Police will treat me kindly.
I agree entirely and after a
I agree entirely and after a similar incident a couple of weeks back where a van tried to ram me into a wall and the Police were not in the least bit interested, I now carry my Tramontina Brazilian machete with me at all times.
It is in its sheath under my rear bag on my rack, the handle is sticking out the back for easy retrieval.
It is no good depending on the Police, they are obviously on the drivers side and I for one have had enough.
yupiteru wrote:
I do understand your anger but you might want to think very carefully about having that machete with you. It is an offensive weapon and if the police were to stop you, or if there was an incident during which you brandished it, then you’d likely be facing charges. There are other ways to protect yourself.
If you were attacked and were to defend yourself using a bicycle lock or a tool, then these are items you might reasonably be expected to be carrying as a cyclist and you would have a much stronger claim with regard to self defence.
Please, leave the machete at home.
That’s right. You need to be
That’s right. You need to be able to justify why you are carrying anything that is bladed or offensive or even which could be offensive. And “self defence” is not a justification. And a machete (!!?!) cannot ever be justified in the UK.
I have a Leatherman non cycling multi tool which I always have in my bag, Xmas present from my father in law about fifteen/twenty years ago.
I use the saw and pliers a surprising amount. However, the blade in it is a locking blade, and if I ever got searched I’d need to justify its presence and utility to the police or else best case would be it gets confiscated and worst case would have me facing charges…
Presumably you don’t need
Presumably you don’t need justification for a swiss army knife – and corkscrew and toothpick injuries are going to really hurt…
Swiss Army Knife blades don’t
Swiss Army Knife blades don’t lock, so apparently they’re not so problematic. Leatherman and (IIRC) Gerber knives are more of an issue in the UK because their blades do lock open.
Edit: Mind you, I imagine that a corkscrew could do some twisted damage…
Any blade less than 3.5″ that
Any blade less than 3″ that doesn’t lock can be carried without a reason to do so. You can carry a longer unlocked blade as long as you have a good and valid reason to do so. There will be some areas – football stadiums or where there is a heightened security risk that no bladed item whatsoever may be carried. The only exception to a locked blade as such is the Sgian Dubh but only when worn with the kilt. Even then it will be banned in zero tolerance areas.
giff77 wrote:
And the Sikh kirpan (ceremonial dagger), I believe?
Had forgotten about the
Had forgotten about the Kirpan. Thanks Rendel.
brooksby wrote:
Interesting I have the topeak alien 2 multitool, which has a blade which seems like it falls under the description of lock knife, sounds like I might need to get a different multi tool.
Been on the eurostar with it 4 times as well, could have gone badly at the security scan.
So there is an interesting point here, you can have the tool with you if you have a good reason, and obviously cycling far from rescue is good reason to carry a multi tool, but could it be argued that a multi tool without a knife would meet that reason, so what is the justification for having a knife?
wycombewheeler wrote:
Trimming tubeless anchovies or cutting a loose bit of handlebar tape.
OldRidgeback wrote:
God yes, you’d be in so much trouble if you were found carrying it, if you actually used it you’d be heading straight for prison. I don’t think you could even try a self-defence plea, you’re clearly not going to be able to use it to stop a car hitting you so the only real reason to carry it would be to punish someone for what they had done. Maiming someone else (or worse) and going to prison yourself isn’t going to help anyone.
Yes a machete is on offensive
Yes a machete is on offensive weapon, that is the idea. Don’t worry though it was only temporary as my pepper spray has arrived in the post.
I had a text message from my partner, she said your pepper spray is here and I said how do you know, she said it has ‘Pepper spray’ printed on the package with a picture as well.
Came all the way from China like that, the company concerned said it would arrive in discrete packaging, ha, ha.
Time to fight back against the crazy bastards, if I get caught, well so be it. I have had enough of the bastards trying to kill me and if the law wont help, then I will help my self.
See how it goes, but a tazer look like a good investment as well.
yupiteru wrote:
I really hope you’re just indulging in a bit of online posturing. Tazers are classified as firearms under UK law and simply possessing one can attract a prison sentence of up to ten years. Carrying a disguised one (I know some people buy ones abroad made up to look like torches etc) attracts a minimum sentence of five years. Stop fantasising about what you’d like to do to others and think about the consequences for you and your family.
Rendel Harris wrote:
You beat me too it, rendel.
Yupiteru – you really need to think about what you’re posting. Pepper spray, tasers, and machetes are all highly illegal, even if you feel that concerned about your safety…
yupiteru wrote:
Please please please tell me you’re engaging in some kind of well intentioned bravado. Pepper spray is illegal in the U.K. Tasers come under the firearms act. The only people allowed to use them are the police.
The only deterrent device you can legally carry is a rape alarm. You may get away with a dye spray but if it causes injury when used then you are on the back foot.
If caught carrying or using the former devices will land you with a criminal record which will pretty much stuff up your career and future careers.
Ditch the devices. Karma will nail the crazies out there.
yupiteru wrote:
So you’ve replace one illegal weapon with another. Do you not understand that pepper spray is likewise illegal in the UK? Explaining to the officer that you were using the pepper spray so that you did not have to carry your machete will only lengthen your sentence.
yupiteru wrote:
Sadly, you too have been induced by the RoadCC avidly-reported kultural kak to become a crazy bastard. “When two tribes go to war (etc.).”
Media toxoplasmic brain-worms – nasty things inducing us to behave in all sorts of self-destructive ways.
However, I do have the knowledge, skills and gubbins to sharpen not just axes but anything meant to slice and chop up stuff, should you need to hone your auto-gaoling implement. Mind, I’ve nor run amok amongst offensive humans with one myself so I can’t be certain how well they’ll turn out at removing a head or even just a limb …. yet. I confine myself to whittling nice wooden spoons and bowls with which to eat a calming bowl of porridge before going out for a bike ride.
Not that I ever seem to get into such car vs cyclist bouts. Yes, must be that porridge (and perhaps the lack of a sharp weapon).
“The purpose of a weapon is its use”. It will talk to you from back there, behind your bum. “Use me – go on, go on, go on – you know you want to”.
Much sooth counsel here.
Much sooth counsel here.
Except “The purpose of a tool (weapon) is its use” … has an exception when it comes to all the bikes that roost on nearby balconies and in closes, quietly passing their years corroding away…
There is no plausible
There is no plausible scenario* where you are going to be able to use or threaten to use a machete that does not see you in serious legal trouble or even used as a justification by a third party to use more violence towards yourself.
*Regardless of which cheesy Hollywood action movies have inspired your imagination.
Mungecrundle wrote:
Even carrying one is an offence, unless you are travelling to or from somewhere where you will be hacking overgrown plants down.
Travelling from your house to the office and carrying a machete could presumably result in a sentance of up to 4 years, claiming it’s for self defence in case of road rage will probably move things towards the upper end of the sentance scale.
https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives
You are risking getting shot?
You are risking getting shot??? You can’t be serious.
A friend of mine carries a rape horn. At close range it can really scare the shite out of your typical road rage enthusiast. Apparently. It works a treat. Seems to change their mindset.
Especially if you’ve just had
Especially if you’ve just had a few relationship problems…
Road.cc please don’t let this
Road.cc please don’t let this one go and keep pressuring WM Police. How many murderers etc. have used the excuse ‘I was under pressure at the time’. This driver needs to go to jail because if a similar attack was made on an axe wielding cyclist it’s going to descend into a ridiculous situation for all cyclists.
Silca Tattico Pump…I think
Silca Tattico Pump…I think it’s called Tattico for a reason…
So if I had a few arguments
So if I had a few arguments with my wife could I use that to justify visiting the driver, a complete stranger who has angered me due to this article, and battering him with a blunt instrument?? Though not.
If the law accepts this as
If the law accepts this as mitigation for threatening one (a cyclist) then logically it is also mitigation for threatening another (his partner), which shows up just how perverse the line of reasoning is.