“Covid-19 can suck my ass” says Rohan Dennis as world champion breaks quarantine

Of course, being an arsehole and having diagnosable mental health conditions are not mutually exclusive. It is even possible that episodes of being an arsehole coincide with episodes of ill health.

Folk usually aren't at their best when ill, something which may be borne in mind whilst casting judgement on someone's arsholery (without actually having to agree with/condone it)

I was a teacher. In spite of every teacher in the world being able to tell which kids were "arseholes", it always seemed quite a coincidence that the diagnosis was, in the main, proportional to how much grief this particular arsehole causes in my working life. I got fed up with teaching, and left. I wasn't skilled enough (or strong enough for that matter) to cope with the kids that really needed the help - most of whom were arseholes (when matched against the above definition).

Hmm interesting statistics but even if true, you do realise they do not contain the whole facts?

My wife has bad Asthma. If she gets it she is at signiifcant risk. Her dad, who died the other year, lived with a heart disease for 30 odd years from when he had a heart attack in his 50's. Both are underlying health conditions which meant if they had caught it now and potentially died, they would have been recorded of dying with an underlying health condition. 
Neither would have been ones that would have killed them though otherwise (her dad died of a Brain anuerysm for example, not because of the heart disease). 

You also do realise that the majority of the lockdown is to control the spread so the hospitals don't get overwhelmed so you could still be treated if you get knocked off your bike or get something else non-covid related which meant you needed treatment in a hospital or ICU. 

Finally, the age of hospitalisation is not 60 and above, it is approx 1 in 20 of confirmed infections that could need hospitalisation. It is then about 2-3 of those that need ICU. BlowJo should show you that. 

And currently 30 NHS staff have given their lives treating people who have been affected. 

There's no such thing as a simple solution to a complex problem.

And what about the health workers on the front line, exposed to the virus through necessity with inadequate or no PPE? They're not old and primed for a wooden box but too many of them have died already and this thing is far from over.

That may or may not be true. This illness essentially loads your annual risk of death for a year into the fortnight that you suffer from it (even taking into account age and fitness), so at face value what you say doesn't sound unreasonable.

However the reason we're locked down is less for our own personal safety, but to stop the country's essential services being overwhelmed

Imagine that in a given fortnight 50% of the population were exposed. On the risks mentioned above, that would bring half the deaths we would expect in a year (approx 300,000) into one fortnight.

In the current situation, frontline medical staff are at much higher risk of death as they are working in the "Hot Zone". They are at a high risk of exposure, and that exposure is in a concentrated form. I'm not sure what the figures are here but it is clear that their risk of infection is much increased, as is their risk of succumbing if they do show symptoms. 

The medical services are currently being overwhelmed with  CV related cases. This is currently less than a half a percentage point of the UK population - the other risk factors continue, so who will be able to take care of "business as usual"? What happens when the % infection rate gets into single digits?

Also, anyone working with the dead is at increased risk - a little-remembered service that is almost as important as working with the living.

It's easy to feel that we are in a "phoney war" (for example, I find that apart from working from home, and altered shopping habits things are little changed), but this is not actually the case.

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you may now flush, wash your hands for the correct length of time and exit the little boys room

biker phil wrote:

On another topic, he has rather nice taste in cars. That looks like a classic 964 911 dashboard.

Indeed!

biker phil wrote:

On another topic, he has rather nice taste in cars. That looks like a classic 964 911 dashboard.

It also looks like he's about to run out of petrol.

Alternatively:

Man with documented mental health difficulties finds lockdown incredibly challenging.

Rich_cb wrote:

Alternatively: Man with documented mental health difficulties finds lockdown incredibly challenging.

Special institutions exist where those who are unable to control those difficulties or urges and thus endager others are managed:  asylums.  

Firstly may I congratulate you on mastering time travel. A truly incredible achievement to travel to 2020 from the Victorian era.

However, in between collecting your Nobel prize and letting me know next week's lottery numbers you might want to find the time to read up on the modern treatment of mental health conditions.

Congratulations again!

So you're endorsing Dennis' reckless behaviour? Or what exactly are you trying to say?

Don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes.

Lockdown is incredibly tough on an individual's mental health especially those with pre existing difficulties.

Boss Hogg wrote:

So you're endorsing Dennis' reckless behaviour?

How did you get from what he said to that?

Xenophon2 wrote:

Special institutions exist where those who are unable to control those difficulties or urges and thus endager others are managed:  asylums.  

Embarrassing. 

LRTom wrote:

 

Embarrassing. 

In a day and age where the elderly and infirm* (*underlying conditions, presumably physical, not mental, ones) who happen to catch a certain virus are denied access to critical care or indeed hospital care, are left to succumb in their care homes by the hundreds, tended to by staff lacking even basic protection gear and after death are not even counted in the official statistics, I'd use the 'embarrassing' word sparingly.  

He's a twat.  Coat him with sugar and tie a nice ribbon around him, he'll be a decorated twat.

Xenophon2 wrote:

He's a twat.  Coat him with sugar and tie a nice ribbon around him, he'll be a decorated twat.

I thought people were a little more enlightened than this about mental health nowadays.

I would echo Rich_cb's comments about not rushing to judgement. I know that doing this is seemingly in vogue on social media - shoot from the hip and move onto the next victim before giving it a second thought - but it's a thoroughly horrible way to treat other people.

That he may be, but suggesting that someone should be sectioned for being a twat (for "twat" read "an individual that behaves in ways that I dislike") seems a mite severe. 

Indeed, Dennis' behaviour is very embarassing and certainly illegal.

Fuck my life ,you're a bit of a cunt are'nt you.

Xenophon 2,
You appear to have zero understanding of how mental health issues manifest themselves, less understanding on how (poorly) they are managed in many systems and even less empathy, if it were possible. I hope no one you care for ever suffers from mental ill health if this is your likely response. Because you are at risk of sounding like a moron, ignorant or a troll. Or all three.

My understanding stops dead where a persons' behaviour is both illegal and carries risks to others.  Then they need to be dealt with and the underlying reason matters not one whit.  The only place where that plays a role is when a decision needs to be made about whether the individual needs to be either punished or (compulsory) treated.

If your understanding has "stopped dead", perhaps you are not in the best position to cast judgement.

I do hope that you are neither part of the medical profession, nor the judiciary.