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Winning or minging? A gallery of THAT EF Pro Cycling kit; Simmons ‘sorry’ for THAT tweet; Stationary objects attack Edinburgh cars; Brajkovic says racism was endemic at Bahrain-Merida in 2017 + more

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01 October 2020, 20:57
Trek-Segafredo and Quinn Simmons issue joint statement after THAT tweet
01 October 2020, 20:42
Full gallery of THAT EF Pro Cycling kit that has Twitter divided

Well, now ... that Rapha + Palace kit that EF Pro Cycling will be wearing at the Giro d'Italia over the next three weeks has certainly polarised opinion on cycling Twitter ... just take a look at the replies to this tweet from team boss Jonathan Vaughters, then go through the gallery of pictures from the team presentation and let us know what YOU think. Winning or minging?

 

01 October 2020, 15:39
Giro d'Italia to get off to a fast start
01 October 2020, 15:32
Vulnerable man's bike snatched out of his hands in Swindon

A 43-year-old Swindon man who has mental health issues and autism had his bike taken out of his hands outside St Barnabas Parish Church in Gorse Hill.

The Swindon Advertiser reports that the man has been staying at the SW Bed and Breakfast in Malvern Road.

Owner Sara Wheeler said: “I’ve cared for him over the last nine months and he’s become part of the family. We bought the bike in July and he loves it. On the day it was stolen he had a bad mental health episode and he took it with him to the church.

“As he was sat down a man went up to him and said ‘I’m taking that’ and walked off with it in broad daylight. He was so upset and so angry, it took him a while to save up for that bike and now it’s gone.”

She added: “I was mortified when I found out someone had taken advantage of someone who is vulnerable. He sees the bike like a child sees a teddy bear. It’s so important to him and I just hope we can get it back.

“I saw it a couple days later and saw this kid with it who was between 15 and 17-years-old. He was with an older gentleman. They were tethering it up to one of the rubbish bins just opposite the Beijing Chef (in Cricklade Road).

“I couldn’t dump my car anywhere and go look at it, I just couldn’t do anything about it.”

A spokesperson for Wiltshire Police said the incident occurred on Tuesday, September 15.

“It is reported that the man was sat on the wall of the church at approximately 2pm when it is alleged he was approached by another man who has taken the bike and left with it.

“The bike is a dark green Vengeance bike with a 32-inch frame and has bright green writing on the wheels. Anyone who may have seen the incident, or may have seen the bike since or on an online marketplace is asked to call 101 and quote crime reference number 54200094715.”

01 October 2020, 14:58
EF Pro Cycling's BIG surprise?
01 October 2020, 14:19
geraint thomas ineos 2020
Geraint Thomas feeling "ready" for the Giro as Ineos Grenadiers names team

Geraint Thomas, who is riding the Giro d'Italia for the first time since 2017, will be supported by Jonathan Castroviejo, Rohan Dennis, Filippo Ganna, Tao Geoghegan Hart, Jonathan Narvaez, Salvatore Puccio and Ben Swift.

Thomas said: “I’m excited to lead the Team again in Italy and I feel ready. It’s been a strange year for everyone but it’s great to have this big objective. The legs are feeling good - Tirreno went well and then the World Time Trial was a confidence booster for me. Now stage one is nearly here and I’m more motivated than ever.

“I’ve a long association with Italy - I’ve lived here, I’ve raced for an Italian team, and I had some rough luck the last time I came to the Giro. I’m determined to right that wrong this time around.

“We’re taking a great Team and I’ve got total faith in the guys around me. Racing a Grand Tour with Swifty again will be a pleasure - we’ve been good mates since I was 12 and he’ll be our guide on the road. Tao and I have raced really well together before, most notably when I won the Dauphine, and Filippo is obviously flying after the Worlds. Puccio has so much experience of the Giro, young Jonny Narvaez is going really well and obviously everybody knows what Castro and Rohan can do.

“The Team couldn’t have supported me any better in the lead up to this race and I know those seven guys will do the job and support me on the road. Now it’s time to fight for the maglia rosa.”

01 October 2020, 14:08
Two Hani x Pinarello F12’s to be auctioned for charity for World Bicycle Relief

Pinarello and New York architect Hani Rashid have developed a super limited collaboration based on Pinarello's flagship road bike, the Dogma F12.

Two of these bikes are being auctioned off for World Bicycle Relief.

Full details at eBay.

01 October 2020, 13:40
Boardman and Burnham rode in today
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

After 30km ride to work @AndyBurnhamGM Best way to lead is by doing 👏👏👏

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01 October 2020, 13:27
Hectoring road sign news

Who produced this less-than-pithy beauty?

01 October 2020, 12:43
Manchester to build 55 miles of protected “Beeways” plus pop-up routes and low traffic neighbourhoods

Greater Manchester is looking to build 55 miles of cycling and walking routes by next Christmas, plus around 25 miles of pop-up routes and two low-traffic neighbourhoods.

Funded by the Mayor’s Challenge Fund, there will be Bee Network schemes in all 10 of Greater Manchester’s districts.

The region’s Walking and Cycling Commissioner, Chris Boardman, said: “We started this mission nearly two years ago and I’m so pleased with the significant work GM’s local authorities have been doing behind the scenes to get this monumental mission underway.

“The Bee Network was a vision; now, having completed the planning, paperwork and many consultations, we are ready to start making it a reality. It will create better places to live and work, give those with a car the option to leave it at home and for those who don’t, it will provide them with a reliable, safe and pleasant network to walk or ride to shops, schools and workplaces. This is the beginning of Greater Manchester’s twenty first century transport revolution.”  

01 October 2020, 11:00
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Watch the women's cross-country final at the UCI Mountain Bike World Cup

It's on now. Click here.

The coverage is good. Plenty of info on the rider and course in the sidebar.

01 October 2020, 10:39
Chris Froome is a good bloke
01 October 2020, 10:17
South London Press posts correction

The general theme of the replies: 'The driver would still be in the wrong even without the 'no left-turn' sign.'

01 October 2020, 09:57
Journalist who inadvertently brought about Quinn Simons suspension 'feels horrible' about situation

“Racism is unacceptable. Period,” said Trek-Segafredo after its rider Quinn Simmons replied “Bye” with a waving brown hand emoji when a journalist asked supporters of Donald Trump to unfollow her on Twitter.

José Been says she feels 'horrible' about the situation.

01 October 2020, 09:05
Janez Brajkovic says racism was endemic at Bahrain-Merida in 2017

After Trek-Segafredo's Quinn Simmons' was stood down from racing yesterday, 2010 Criterium du Dauphine winner Janez Brajkovic has spoken out about the culture at Bahrain-Merida when he raced for them in 2017.

01 October 2020, 08:43
'Stupid' stationary objects attacking motor vehicles in Edinburgh
01 October 2020, 08:35
Baroness Jones unimpressed with South London Press's "whose fault was it?" tweet
01 October 2020, 08:15
Who was in the wrong? The driver making an illegal left turn across a cycle lane without looking or the cyclist?

The South London Press has a question for you.

The fact there is a 'no left turn' sign is surely pertinent.

If you've more vim, vigour and resilience than me, why not check out the replies to the tweet to get a feel for how people see these things.

Alex has written for more cricket publications than the rest of the road.cc team combined. Despite the apparent evidence of this picture, he doesn't especially like cake.

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andystow replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 4 years ago
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The bollards are doing the Lord's Work.

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TheBillder replied to andystow | 4 years ago
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Excellent - as are lots of replies to that tweet.

Comiston Road is one of those which many drivers can't really manage. Two lanes in each direction but no central reservation, just islands. Speed limit is 30 but it's the type of road that often used to be 40, and the hill is steep enough that many going down can't keep legal. Speed camera halfway down jerks them out of auto pilot mode.

I wouldn't have ridden down there before the lane went in - there are nicer, smaller parallel roads very near by. And I'm not sure I'll be putting much faith in the wands by the look of it...

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OnYerBike | 4 years ago
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If you've more vim, vigour and resilience than me, why not check out the replies to the tweet to get a feel for how people see these things.

Actually the majority of replies make for refreshing reading. In addition to the fact that the driver was making an illegal left turn, and turned across another lane of moving traffic without adequately checking it was clear, people have pointed out that the vehicle had no tax or MOT, and also that the front indicator was flashing very fast which may well suggest the rear indicator was not operating (something which would have been picked up on the MOT if the driver had bothered to get one...)

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Awavey replied to OnYerBike | 4 years ago
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On the indicator flash, I suspect its LED lighting,and the power frequency to illuminate the light for a pulse is just out of synch with the frame rate of the camera, as I'm always getting that kind of strobe rapid flash effect with all types of lights (indicators,headlights,rearlights) on newer cars

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OnYerBike replied to Awavey | 4 years ago
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Not impossible - that thought did cross my mind but I don't *think* it looks like that to me. I know this is hardly conclusive, but no such strobing is visible on any of the other lights (including the other lights on the range rover or the indicator lights of the the Toyota waiting to pull out), and the apparent frequency of the range rover's indicator matches what I've observed previously from cars with one indicator not working.

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the little onion | 4 years ago
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That video from South London, where an (untaxed, uninsured) driver swerves across lanes without looking whilst making an illegal turn... and then people blame the cyclist '100%'....

If ever there was proof of the ignorance and prejudice of so many of our fellow road users, this, surely, is it.

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hawkinspeter replied to the little onion | 4 years ago
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the little onion wrote:

That video from South London, where an (untaxed, uninsured) driver swerves across lanes without looking whilst making an illegal turn... and then people blame the cyclist '100%'....

If ever there was proof of the ignorance and prejudice of so many of our fellow road users, this, surely, is it.

It shows how much people think that an indicator means "Get out of my way! I'm coming through" rather than "I want to turn when there's some room and it's safe".

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brooksby replied to hawkinspeter | 4 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:
the little onion wrote:

That video from South London, where an (untaxed, uninsured) driver swerves across lanes without looking whilst making an illegal turn... and then people blame the cyclist '100%'....

If ever there was proof of the ignorance and prejudice of so many of our fellow road users, this, surely, is it.

It shows how much people think that an indicator means "Get out of my way! I'm coming through" rather than "I want to turn when there's some room and it's safe".

And explains why so many pedestrians get their backs up when a cyclist rings their bell - they think the cyclist is doing the same thing...

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iandusud replied to hawkinspeter | 4 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:
the little onion wrote:

That video from South London, where an (untaxed, uninsured) driver swerves across lanes without looking whilst making an illegal turn... and then people blame the cyclist '100%'....

If ever there was proof of the ignorance and prejudice of so many of our fellow road users, this, surely, is it.

It shows how much people think that an indicator means "Get out of my way! I'm coming through" rather than "I want to turn when there's some room and it's safe".

It shows how much driving a Range Rover means  "Get out of my way! I'm coming through".

I was cycling to work this morning thinking to myself (quite rightly) that the vast majority of cars that overtake me do so carefully giving reasonable room even when there is oncoming traffic, when guess what vehicle close passes me with no oncoming traffic. Yes a Range Rover (with a personalised number plate of course).

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to the little onion | 4 years ago
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Good avoiding reaction by the cyclist, (although his rear wheel might be damaged as he ended up stood on the spokes).

 

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Shake replied to the little onion | 4 years ago
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Before I start, overall I would say that the car is at fault.

My general rule would be that I wouldn't undertake a car with an approaching side road, indicator or not. Perhaps the cyclist saw the no left turn and assumed that the driver wouldn't go down there. 

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eburtthebike replied to Shake | 4 years ago
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Shake wrote:

Before I start, overall I would say that the car is at fault.

No, no, no and no again.  The DRIVER is at fault.  Please stop excusing the driver by blaming the car. 

https://road.cc/content/news/media-guidelines-launched-reporting-road-co...

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Shake replied to eburtthebike | 4 years ago
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Force of habit. 

Years of car vs bike language takes a while to break. I must try harder

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sapperadam replied to Shake | 4 years ago
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Shake wrote:

My general rule would be that I wouldn't undertake a car with an approaching side road, indicator or not. Perhaps the cyclist saw the no left turn and assumed that the driver wouldn't go down there. 

Or as someone said earlier, maybe the indicator wasn't working and the cyclist had no idea the driver was intending to turn...

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Shake replied to sapperadam | 4 years ago
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Exactly, I was saying that the indicator plays no real part. If the cyclist did or didn't see an indicator, they might have seen the no left turn and assumed the driver wasn't going to turn left and thought it safe to go down on the inside, which it should have been.

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sapperadam replied to Shake | 4 years ago
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I would say the indicator plays a big part though.  Without the No Left Turn sign , would you then slow down every time a car goes past you on the approach to a junction like that or would you usually assume the driver is not going to turn left unless they were indicating? 

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TheBillder replied to sapperadam | 4 years ago
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Or the driver wasn't keeping the vehicle in roadworthy condition - let's not blame the inanimate object.

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brooksby replied to Shake | 4 years ago
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Shake wrote:

Perhaps the cyclist saw the no left turn and assumed that the driver wouldn't go down there. 

Assuming that the driver would obey the clear signage?  Tut-tut!

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