Welcome to Yorkshire! Frightening moment Tour of Britain pros narrowly avoid crash with sheep on fast descent; Puncturegate: Adam Blythe denies “insinuating Remco was cheating”; New Transport Secretary; Roglič abandons injured + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Oh, and here's the social media pile-in...
For a good 15 minutes suspicion reigned, amateur detectives scoured the footage… while everyone else took to the blue bird app…
Conspiracy theory about 🇧🇪 Remco Evenepoel and his flat tire?
Oh c’mon, use your time for something else. Why would he do that? Why would it even come in his mind?
Enjoy cycling. Don’t try to make up things…#LaVuelta22 pic.twitter.com/Yocts6gCPP
— Domestique (@Domestique___) September 6, 2022
Entirely reasonable to wonder what is happening. Accusing the race leader of cheating, and yes he did despite his little walkback video, is absurd. But he’s been hating on Remco for quite some time.
— D Hoff (@dirkhofmanmoto) September 6, 2022
Stop listening to Adam Blythe. 😆
There’s no way Remco could have known how the finale of the stage would play out. Roglic could have been brought back immediately – or gone on to win solo. It’s so silly to think he’d pull that stunt on this type of finish. Or ever really.
— Colin Lynch PLY (@FormerTTchamp) September 6, 2022
Just no man
— Tim Bonville-Ginn (@TimBonvilleGinn) September 6, 2022
Adam Blythe is very entertaining! #Vuelta22
— 👋🥂lesley (@9lives2) September 6, 2022
God forbid I ever get the live blog masses on me for saying something I shouldn’t. Then again, it’s probably more likely to be something totally un-cycling-related that does it for me… like what’s the best jam tart (blackcurrant) or questioning why seemingly everyone in the world wants to queue to get on the plane first?
Puncturegate: Adam Blythe denies "insinuating Remco was cheating" after roadside video proves Evenepoel's "convenient" flat tyre
Funny how when you’re literally paid to tell a TV audience your opinion on a professional bike race people will almost certainly still have a go at you for doing so…
Opschudding! Roglic verrast Evenepoel met late uitval, die stilstaat met pech #LaVuelta22 pic.twitter.com/KN6YdRUnZA
— Sporza 🚴 (@sporza_koers) September 6, 2022
Ex-pro and GCN presenter Adam Blythe risked the wrath of Belgium yesterday evening after questioning the mechanical which prompted race leader Remco Evenepoel to pull over, just as Primož Roglič launched a stinging attack and raced off into the distance. The red jersey was within 3km to go so got the same time as the group he was in at the time of the mechanical, leaving Blythe to question — based purely on the less-than-obvious TV pictures — what exactly the problem was?
The handy clip from the show, posted on Twitter before everything blew up, has since been deleted… so here’s a quick run-down of what Blythe said: “I really want to see that bike of Remco’s to see what the problem was. He’s not crashed, both wheels to me look like they were pumped up, if his gears [chain] have gone into his spokes or derailleur and he can’t pedal, yes it’s a mechanical, but that’s something you can help… I would like to see that bike to see what the problem was…”
Pushed further by host Orla Chennaoui on whether Remco was out to “limit his losses” by “claiming a mechanical”, Blythe clarified “I’m not suggesting that […] it’s just all a little bit too convenient.” Seeing the footage back, he continued: “Both wheels are pumped up [which, in fairness, did look to be the case on the TV images] he’s pedalling the bike fine, so what is the problem with it?”
Remco’s post-race interview followed, with the explanation that he’d punctured, but by now it wasn’t just Blythe questioning the claim, and cycling fans globally took to social media to search for evidence of this phantom puncture…
As it turned out it wasn’t phantom after all. A short while later, this video appeared, seeming to show a slow rear flat…
Evenepoel rear puncture inside 3km much clearer from this perspective. Slow leak, not flat but not really rideable either. #LaVuelta22 pic.twitter.com/yK0LYLdlNl
— Neal Rogers 🇺🇦 (@nealrogers) September 6, 2022
Presumably now on his evening commute, Blythe posted a video message clearing up the post-stage events, saying he’d now seen the footage showing the flat (much clearer than on the original TV pictures)…”That back tyre, clear enough for me to say that it was a flat tyre, so anyone trying to tell me that I was insinuating Remco’s cheating… I am not […] I was saying what I could see, and it didn’t look like a flat tyre.”
… ⬇️ pic.twitter.com/jmcN2dMadn
— Adam Blythe (@AdamBlythe89) September 6, 2022
Phew… more drama after stage 16 than pretty much the entire 189km day out… lesson learnt, eh Adam? Don’t go giving opinions when analysing bike races…(sorry, if you heard that it was just the live blog sarcasm alarm going off again, I must work out how to switch that off)…
Did Remco ride puncture into 3km safe zone?
Clever? Yes. Within the rules? Yes. Riding a puncture into the -3km to go zone. Lots more to talk about here https://t.co/fvwZsfzh36
— Carlton Kirby (@carltonkirby) September 7, 2022
Puncturegate is the gift that keeps on giving…
Translation of the tweet (the Spanish one, not Carlton’s…): “My feeling is that Remco punctured long before the 3km finish line banner. He begins to lose positions 6.9km from the end, 5km from the finish line he already has more than 60 riders ahead and he never reappears in the first positions…”
Primož Roglič withdraws from Vuelta a España after stage 16 crash
🇪🇸 #LaVuelta22
Unfortunately, @rogla will not be at the start of stage 17 as a consequence of yesterday’s crash.
Get well soon, champion! Thank you for all the beautiful moments in this Vuelta. You had ambitious plans for the final days, but sadly it isn’t meant to be. 😔🍀 pic.twitter.com/C3Vnc8P9EO
— Team Jumbo-Visma cycling (@JumboVismaRoad) September 7, 2022
There it is. Confirmation that Primož Roglič’s rotten luck continues. Second on GC, 1:26 behind Remco Evenepoel and the Slovenian abandons. Juan Ayuso jumps up to third place, giving Spain a decent chance of two podium places, unless something quite ridiculous happens and they nab all three. Enric Mas is the race’s new second-placed rider, Ayuso third, Ineos Grenadiers’ Carlos Rodríguez is fourth.
Anne-Marie Trevelyan appointed Transport Secretary
I’m thrilled to have been appointed Transport Sec 🚆🚘🛳✈️🚀🚲🚛
Transport is crucial to our lives – bringing people together, creating jobs & connecting the UK with the world.
Looking forward to getting to work on the many challenges & opportunities transport brings. https://t.co/NTf0tvC3v4
— Anne-Marie Trevelyan (@annietrev) September 6, 2022
Zwift launches a turbo! The new Zwift Hub trainer
If you missed yesterday’s big news in the world of indoor training…
> Zwift launches its own Hub smart trainer for £449
Some of your reaction from Facebook: “Direct drive trainer for £449. Either it’s not that great, or it could be great and shows how much the likes of Wahoo etc are over charging as it’s the same price as their wheel-on trainer. Fingers crossed it is and makes Zwift more accessible,” Anthony Walstow commented.
Photo of the day/week/month/year
The @AJBell photo of the day.
[📸 // @swpixtweets]#TourOfBritain 🔴🔵⚪️ pic.twitter.com/wAvusgC7iL
— AJ Bell Tour of Britain 🇬🇧 (@TourofBritain) September 6, 2022
> “Giving it the absolute beans!”: Kid smashes up climb with Tour of Britain breakaway
Come to Britain they said, it will be fun they said...
While the Vuelta peloton cooked in the sun of a post-rest day jaunt though the south of Spain, the poor Tour of Britain riders got a most British welcome to the north of England…
WELCOME TO BRITAIN IT’S REALLY GREAT HERE 😳🌧️ #TourOfBritain pic.twitter.com/aKwQtQbAmy
— Scribe Katy of Watford (@writebikerepeat) September 6, 2022
I bet Richie Porte can’t wait to get back to sunny Tassie with his feet up…
Are you completely sure you want to stop @richie_porte? 🤣🥶 #TourofBritain pic.twitter.com/KypojJzJqH
— Geraint Thomas (@GeraintThomas86) September 6, 2022
The worst time for a car to overtake the peloton ☔️ https://t.co/oRcOfxY67G
— Alex Dowsett (@alexdowsett) September 6, 2022
How has Anne-Marie Trevelyan's appointment Transport Secretary been received?
AA President Edmund King welcomed the new transport minister to her position with a ten-point plan of priorities, including at number one, “make UK roads safer — promote vision zero deaths and set targets. Improve rural roads, cycling, pedestrian safety.”
AA starter for ten pic.twitter.com/GuVygIkKI8
— Edmund King OBE (@AAPresident) September 6, 2022
As EnjoyTheRide pointed out in the comments there is also this in Trevelyan’s back catalogue of tweets…
We aren’t getting hotter, global warming isn’t actually happening. @danhannanmep http://t.co/M1kDkXRY #wingatesnotwindfarms
— Anne-Marie Trevelyan (@annietrev) April 14, 2012
“Well, at least the new Transport Secretary has included a cycle in her line of emojis,” Steve K added…
I’m thrilled to have been appointed Transport Sec 🚆🚘🛳✈️🚀🚲🚛
Transport is crucial to our lives – bringing people together, creating jobs & connecting the UK with the world.
Looking forward to getting to work on the many challenges & opportunities transport brings. https://t.co/NTf0tvC3v4
— Anne-Marie Trevelyan (@annietrev) September 6, 2022
Right, yep, that’s us…right next to the rocket…it seems bus and rail travel didn’t make the cut…that’ll show Mick Lynch…
EDIT: Rail did get a mention… on that top row of emojis I must have missed…no sign of the bus… I guess two emojis will turn up at the same time…
"The unfortunate part of it was it was released on its own, because driving had dropped 23 per cent and train use had dropped 47 per cent": Chris Boardman discusses drop in cycling levels with Transport Committee
.@Chris_Boardman says it was “unfortunate” that the latest DfT data showed a decrease in cycling because it was shown in isolation.
Car usage was down 23% and train use 47%; in fact, active travel was the most robust of all modes in that period. @activetraveleng @TransportCttee pic.twitter.com/oP4wsEKkuI
— APPGCW (@allpartycycling) September 7, 2022
Chris Boardman appeared at the Transport Committee to talk all things active travel, including addressing last week’s announcement of figures from the Department for Transport as part of its National Travel Survey, which showed the average person in England made only two percent of all their trips by bike between November 2020 and November 2021, while the average number of trips made by bike dropped to 15, down from a high of 20 the previous year.
Boardman offered some context, seen in the video above, to the figures which, when viewed alone, offered a different picture to when they were viewed in isolation…
Welcome to Yorkshire! Frightening moment Tour of Britain cyclists narrowly avoid crash with sheep on fast descent
How hard is the Tour of Britain, by the way? When the riders aren’t smashing up the grippiest of grippy roads, being battered by headwinds and torrential downpours, they have to keep their wits about them to avoid any unwanted streakers…or should I say sheepers? Nah, that’s terrible…I apologise…
How to say you’re in Yorkshire without saying you’re in Yorkshire… 🐑 #TourOfBritain 🔴🔵⚪️ pic.twitter.com/4T0okirgF9
— AJ Bell Tour of Britain 🇬🇧 (@TourofBritain) September 7, 2022
Thankfully, Matt Stephens on commentary left the horrendous puns (not sure that even qualifies as a pun to be honest) to me, saying: “Oh that was a close one, that’s one of the hazards of riding in the North Yorkshire Moors”.
> “Giving it the absolute beans!”: Kid smashes up climb with Tour of Britain breakaway
Another of the hazards is leg-breaking savage climbs, talking of which it’s not long until the riders to tackle Carlton Bank (2km at 10 per cent, with a 30 per cent ramp near the top)…get your sneaky ITV player/GCN+ on at work for this one…
Dozens of riders join cortège for funeral of Rab Wardell
🎥 Dozens of cyclists have joined the cortège for the funeral of mountain biking star Rab Wardell in Dunfermline.
🚲 He died last month at just 37. pic.twitter.com/gs8cvuEEz4
— Radio Forth News (@RadioForthNews) September 7, 2022
BERG
Attack from @tompidcock!
The @INEOSGrenadiers rider has split the race up on Carlton Bank. #TourOfBritain 🔴🔵⚪️ pic.twitter.com/MHVcAaqRwO
— AJ Bell Tour of Britain 🇬🇧 (@TourofBritain) September 7, 2022
Well, that looked disgusting…
We have three leaders over the top of the @SKODAUK King of the Mountains climb at Carlton Bank (KM123.6).
🥇 @dylan_teuns (IPT)
🥈 @tompidcock (IGD)
🥉 @OscarOnley (DSM)#TourOfBritain 🔴🔵⚪️ pic.twitter.com/YHc6SmjOi2— AJ Bell Tour of Britain 🇬🇧 (@TourofBritain) September 7, 2022
If you want your legs to hurt without riding a bike, go check out Omar Fraile’s lead-out and multiple accelerations on the 10 per cent lower slopes.
Tour of Britain: Gonzalo Serrano outsprints Tom Pidcock to stage four victory
Gonzalo Serrano (Movistar Team) wins stage four of the @AJBell Tour of Britain 🇬🇧 at Duncombe Park, Helmsley 🏆
Tom Pidcock (IGD) takes second, Dylan Teuns (IPT) places third. #TourOfBritain 🔴🔵⚪️ pic.twitter.com/gFcsIUQL4V
— AJ Bell Tour of Britain 🇬🇧 (@TourofBritain) September 7, 2022
After Tom Pidcock’s original escape was closed down by Jake Stewart of the GB team, the Ineos all-rounder launched another shot, following Gonzalo Serrano’s kick up the final hill of the day, taking teammate Omar Fraile and Dylan Teuns (once again) with him…
In the sprint, the Spaniard’s low-key day in the bunch showed as he beat the trio of riders who’d all been off the front at some point in the previous 150km. In true Tour of Britain fashion nobody’s quite sure who is in the race lead…
Welcome to the club...
A warm welcome to @Liztruss to the misidentification club. I’ll send your starter pack which includes a weighted blanket, ear plugs, and a complimentary toblerone.
— Geraint Thomas (@geraintthomas) September 7, 2022
Rigoberto Urán wins stage 17 of La Vuelta
It was a breakaway day in Spain and surprise of all surprises…Fred Wright was involved.
Unfortunately, yes I’m biased, today was not Wright’s day either, nor was it teammate and breakaway companion Gino Mäder’s day. Instead, Rigoberto Urán earned EF Education-EasyPost their second Grand Tour win of the year…
🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴 el toro de Urrao 💕
He never gave up. What a fighter. What a champ. pic.twitter.com/0dhcSilNFt
— EF Pro Cycling (@EFprocycling) September 7, 2022
Behind, Quentin Pacher and Jesús Herrada rounded out the stage podium. Little change in the GC group other a few seconds so no big loser on today’s stage…other than this cameraman who caught his own moment of misfortune on live television…
— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) September 7, 2022
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Why could VW not simply have rescued Fazua from the slippery clutches of their subsidiary Porsche?
@jh2727 if only there were a way of separating where high volumes of (increasingly heavy) vehicles operate (which as you say aren't so affected by said potholes, but are vastly more effective at causing them) and where cyclists ride... One practical issue (even if we "went Dutch" in separating modes) is around damage from buses. It's easy to spot the bus stops * due to the waves they produce in the roads at these points. I don't know if that's inevitable, or due to particularly shoddy road construction or drivers stopping too rapidly... Of course if the buses are in bus *lanes* that shouldn't be an issue - because no professional transport planners would try to mix buses and cyclists as they're quite incompatible modes! 🤔 * At least around my area in Edinburgh even without shelters, signs or painted markings.
Maybe with a few more ideas like this I might stop thinking "diesel emissions" every time I hear their name.
@Pub bike Thoroughly agree with that, until the scrotes know that the police have the capacity to keep up with them they will just keep on taking the piss with impunity.
@jh2727 It was closed for repairs as it regularly is because it's falling apart, but no works were actually taking place at the time of the CM ride.
Lancashire Constabulary must find it difficult to recruit enough bad apples to support their present modi operandi.
Within a week the stickers will have been copied and shared between people / repairing electric motorbikes.
While applauding the concept, I hope they didn't shell out too much to the branding agency that came up with that logo - it's not exactly rivalling the likes of the kitemark, lion mark, Fair Trade logo, etc. for recognisability.
ASO makes massive money during the TdF thanks to the pro peloton's performance, which is as good as the rest they get at their hotels. Yet ASO don't seem to pay minimum attention to teams' accommodations. In 2026, how can they possibly book hotels without functioning aircon units in each room, including mecs' and soigneurs'? Why do they book 2-star hotels with dodgy facilities? You bet ASO procurement manager books himself in a comfy and plushy suite every single night. C'mon ASO, up your game!
59 thoughts on “Welcome to Yorkshire! Frightening moment Tour of Britain pros narrowly avoid crash with sheep on fast descent; Puncturegate: Adam Blythe denies “insinuating Remco was cheating”; New Transport Secretary; Roglič abandons injured + more on the live blog”
Interesting one to discuss
Interesting one to discuss here
“We were shocked to find a council notice on our bike today saying it’s a nuisance that will be removed in 7 days. We think it’s a fantastic example of healthy travel. It’s parked in a way that doesn’t block the pavement.”
£10.50 to park an electric vehicle but doesn’t seem available for a bike.
We should have more on this
We should have more on this later today
Park it on the road, in the
Park it on the road, in the same way that a motorcycle is parked? A cycle pays the same amount of road tax as a car or motorbike (zero because that’s not even a thing).
Dunno, hopefully Dan will
Dunno, hopefully Dan will cover this later !
Things like that though are
Things like that though are always not about the individual case but the impact of the whole it has.
If you let them carry on parking their property there, and debate away about cars doing the same thing, but that in itself shows what happens when you let it get out of control, wheres the line you draw when someone parking their cargo bike on a pavement does start to block the pavement ? Is it an inch, couple of inches or a foot further across the pavement ?
Just because it’s “a nice thing” doesnt mean it can be overlooked by the council.
I was going to wait for Dan
I was going to wait for Dan but I’ll just say there is a clear danger of justifying it as ‘whataboutery’
It’ll be a while before we
It’ll be a while before we have this problem though (or the solutions). I’m pretty sure without the councils (and the Highways / TfL etc.) making drastic changes to their policies we won’t have this issue!
In general I agree about being proactive but I note:
a) this is utterly normal for the UK. We almost never pre-emptively tackle issues. Even obvious things like putting in infrastructure (cycling facilities) where there’s a new development *before* all the buildings appear.
b) This is sort of “selective concern”. Did people care about the underlying issue (limited footway space / poor accessibility) before? To be sure “Cycle parking plague delays ambulances” is a better headline than “millions of people breaking law as usual by casually parking all over causing a habitual barrier for everyone including emergency services, the disabled, the old…”
Hmm. Is that legislation
Hmm. Is that legislation commonly used in the context of other “things” deposited on (any part of)[b] the highway[/b]:
[I]149 Removal of things so deposited on highways as to be a nuisance etc.
(1)If any thing is so deposited on a highway as to constitute a nuisance, the highway authority for the highway may by notice require the person who deposited it there to remove it forthwith and if he fails to comply with the notice the authority may make a complaint to a magistrates’ court for a removal and disposal order under this section.[/i]
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1980/66/section/149/2020-07-22
Glad the forum topic on an
Glad the forum topic on an ongoing trial was removed.
Surely people have come across ‘Comments are closed’ on articles on ongoing trials?
hirsute wrote:
What case was it? (an external link is fine). I don’t want to discuss it, but I was late to the site today so don’t know what you’re talking about.
I’m going to leave you to
I’m going to leave you to look on itv.com for Ian Roland Gunn.
Don’t want to link really – sorry !
OK: got it, thanks
OK: got it, thanks
Late on today. Did Martin
Late on today. Did Martin start a post about an on-going court case in an area of the site that doesn’t have locked comments, then complained when people started replying to him? I’m assuming the court case is a cyclist in court, and not the multiple multiple ones when a car driver is in court.
Anyway this is what google returns when typing in cyclist court case into it.
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
A cyclist collided with a pedestrian who tragically died. The court case is on-going. Our resident troll titled the thread in a deliberately prejorative way, and also prejudged the outcome of the case.
Thanks. I see Road.cc have
Thanks. I see Road.cc have picked it up seperately and as pointed out by Sriacha, the story (of the completed court case now) is appearing in the search.
And in that Google search
And in that Google search (now):
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsmanchester/cyclist-found-not-guilty-after-crashing-into-pedestrian-who-died-days-later/ar-AA11yTta
Well unless GCN/Eurosport
Well unless GCN/Eurosport edit the repeat of the Breakaway (though there wouldnt be much left of it if they did) of yesterdays stage, watch it at 1pm on Eurosport 1 and draw your own conclusions of what Blythe was really saying or insinuating.
My opinion of it 🙂 when I watched it last night was Blythe certainly never stated he thought Remco was cheating, but it was a much stronger take than just saying what he could see on the tv pictures, it got into detail about freeze framing and stepping through footage in replay slow motion and asking stuff like so wheres the tubular fluid leaking out if it’s a puncture
Though he couldn’t really explain what the benefit of claiming a mechanical at that point would be except in the very specific exact circumstances of how the finish played out in that Remco gets to roll over the line relaxed whilst Roglic pushed himself so far he crashed and has now ended up out of the race.
Awavey wrote:
I would think it just mitigates the risks inherent at the end of any race – as per Roglic’s unhappy ending
but thats the loop Blythe got
but thats the loop Blythe got stuck in with it, claiming the mechanical mitigates against doing a Roglic…but no-one would ever have anticipated Roglic crashing like that or why Remco would experience the same problem, so why would you be mitigating against a completely unexpected edge case.
Playing devil’s advocate, the
Playing devil’s advocate, the original GC flashed up as Roglic having a lead of something like 1.26 over him.
And what if, as suggested by some, his puncture started at 6.9km to go and he was losing ground due to that?
I’m not sure what Adam Blythe was trying to say beyond calling what he saw on TV – the images appeared to show no puncture. But that’s the problem of relying on TV images from one angle.
Remco punctured. Where exactly? Nobody watching will probably know. So onwards and upwards.
Surreyrider wrote:
I suspect he did develop a slow puncture outside the three kilometre zone and decided – or was advised – to try and ride it to the finish if possible, so that Roglic and the other GC contenders couldn’t get a jump on him while he was changing, but that if anyone lit it up within the 3 km zone he was to call for a change. Which is all perfectly fair and above board as far as I can see, the only problem would be if he was faking a puncture that didn’t exist, and the pictures appear to show that isn’t the case. Twitter going predictably hysterical about it of course, I’ve even seen people saying that Rog wouldn’t have crashed if he hadn’t been so furious about hearing that Remco was trying to cheat! I ask you.
If Remco’s GC lead had got
If Remco’s GC lead had got screwed because of a slow puncture in the final, that wouldn’t be a satisfactory outcome to the stage either.
well I certainly felt Blythe
well I certainly felt Blythe was going beyond calling just what he saw on the tv images in that post stage wrap up they do, theyd got to the point, after several back & forths where both Dan & Adam were giving their opinions, and equally about whether the 3km mechanical rule even applied, where Dan wasnt sure if there was a puncture or not, whilst Adam seemed pretty strongly sure there wasnt,and the implication of that is even if you dont say it pretty obvious.
But it got to the level of them replaying footage in slowmo & a frame at a time to show there was no deformation in the rear tyre, or when Remco sat on the bike and even looking for signs of leaking sealant.
That to me is slightly more than just calling what theyd seen, and merely offering an opinion on it
Quest didn’t show the
Quest didn’t show the Eurosport highlights last night.
Well, at least the new
Well, at least the new Transport Secretary has included a cycle in her line of emojis.
….and it’s just after the
….and it’s just after the space rocket
I’m disappointed by the lack
I’m disappointed by the lack of a jet pack.
We want an end to Boosterism!
We want an end to Boosterism!
No horses, huskies or
No horses, huskies or hovercraft.
Too bad that “A keen cyclist,
Too bad that “A keen cyclist, [Chloe] Smith highlights her interest in transport …” is nevertheless put in charge of Work and Pensions instead.
maybe she was offered it but
maybe she was offered it but turned it down.
as for the twitter emojis stuff…
take it everyone watched the
take it everyone watched the Work of Active England at the transport committee session, the MPs mentioned cycling registrations & red light jumping…
Re Updates on Transport Sec.
Re Updates on Transport Sec.
Unless the first emoji is something different, isn’t that meant to be rail? Correct on buses missing but then she probably hasn’t done public transport herself for quite awhile.
I beleive she has added rockets as she must be a big believer in Musk and his commercial rockets scheme. Pretty sure it is another one of his claims that was supposed to be already in place by 2022 as well.
The UK has a space agency,is
The UK has a space agency,is building a space port and the dept for transport are actively engaging in setting up the regulations and licensing regime for it.
As for Musk, the rocket in the Verge article is expected to launch to orbit before the end of the year.
Ah yes. An intensive
Ah yes. An intensive technology has caused problems – an even more intensive technology to the rescue! (This is indeed how we think about the history of technology however).
Does anyone have examples of the opposite e.g. where “little and often” and “try the simple changes you already know about first” have worked at persuading lots of people? They don’t tend to be popular choices when applied to ourselves. Where people have embraced an existing but simpler / more decentralised technology?
Right you are, missed the top
Right you are, missed the top row of emojis!
Those bloody self driving
Those bloody self driving cars at it again in York.
https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/21124014.cyclist-injured-crash-car-near-nunnery-lane-york/
Apparently after the car hit
Apparently after the car hit the cyclist the car decided to drive away. Amazing.
To those coming into the live
To those coming into the live blog comments after work to see some interesting discussion, don’t bother scrolling down. Its just trolls getting exactly what they want down there.
Would someone kindly explain
Would someone kindly explain what a ‘PBU’ is and why it gets thrown around like its common parlance.
Any chance we can all be in on it?
It’s a common term on any
It’s a common term on any forum. Previously or Permanently Banned User.
It doesn’t get thrown around, only directly to people who show the same style and terminology of previous banned users and after a period of interaction. I’d say there are 2 PBUs on here at the moment.
Previously Banned User – in
Previously Banned User – in this case we had Nigel Garage, who changed his username a minimum seven times before leaving the site (apparently of his own volition) and having all his comments deleted. He then resurfaced as Great Eastern before being banned for misogynist, racist and libellous comments. Enjoy The Ride has exactly the same agenda, the same obsessions, the same style and even (though he’s trying to be careful about giving too much away this time) a number of identical personal details.
Hirsute @ Rendel Harris …
Hirsute @ Rendel Harris …
Thank you for the definition.
I’d never heard of it and I’ve been using forums since the USNET and ICQ days … well before the days of social media, and the heady days of dial-up.
This is also the only place where I have seen PBU used with any degregatory meaning.
Dunno really, I have used it
Dunno really, I have used it elsewhere before I even heard of road.cc so surprised you haven’t heard it
I’d say troll gets thrown around too much though and too often seems to indicate disagreement but without elucidation.
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A Road.cc ‘troll’ is someone who dares to have a different opinion to Trendy a and the like.
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A troll can describe people
A troll can describe people who deliberately post in weird styles and only ever post to criticise the board and/or other posters constantly (even after posting people shouldn’t do that type of thing themselves).
They can also troll by doxing, posting racist or sexist comments, inflamatory comments or shit-ass conspiracy theories and they normally become PBU’s. As you seem to stand up for the PBU’s alot, can I ask did you support Nigels, racism, sexism or his consiracy theory outpourings?
I have seen posts from that
I have seen posts from that account which do seem to relate to the subject under discussion rather than just the comments. Not many, true.
I’ve been around since before
I’ve been around since before the Internet on Compu$erve and other bulletin boards and this is the only place I’ve been conscious of its use (and I seem to recall it was not an easy term to Google either)
On the other hand, I don’t feel to bad. We had a youngster join our ride with a VERY creaky bike which I diagnosed as being “in need of TLC”. Apparently that’s ol’ folks talk as he didn’t have a clue what I meant!
https://acronyms
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/PBU
(define PBU forums)
I’ve been using it for 15 years and I’m not young either !
While we’re on the matter of
While we’re on the matter of TLAs (three letter acronyms), what’s BTL as used here please?
From what I can gather, it
From what I can gather, it means “below the line” and just means “comment section”.
Ah OK, thanks.
Ah OK, thanks.
Bacon Tomato Lettuce
Bacon Tomato Lettuce
I was going to ask this myself and if squirrels like any of those.
I did a bit of googling and I think it means Below The Line – something along the lines of the journalist piece or blog and the responses to it which appear below it.
TBH(!) I first came across it
TBH(!) I first came across it on the Grauniad. They then use ATL for above the line – the main article.
The distinction is between professional journalism (hence you won’t see it used at the DM) and comments made with all the reliability of an anonymous Internet pundit.
Me too
“Aol” Me too “/Aol”
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Explain terms so that you can be in on it?
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Nah, this is a private club, where if you need terms explained then you clearly do not belong in the club.
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Welcome to the echo chamber!
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If you had bothered to read
If you had bothered to read anything, you would have seen the question was answered very quickly. I guess that doesn’t fit your agenda.
Oh and if you head over to the ped/cyclist collision you will see a variety of opinions.
Do you post anything about cycling ever?
Is your dots trying to
Is your dots trying to indicate echos? Is that why you have posted them all this time? Are you so lonely you have to pretend to be your own echo chamber?
That descent on the Toure of
That descent on the Toure of Britain is a bit ‘meh’