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Critérium du Dauphiné stage cancelled after huge crash
Critérium du Dauphiné stage cancelled after huge crash (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Eurosport)

Critérium du Dauphiné stage CANCELLED following huge crash; Cyclist’s stolen penny-farthing returned after help from Jeremy Vine; Tour of Britain Women starts; Dogma-gate continues; “Leaked” kit rumours (+ Wout’s blue Cervélo) + more on the live blog

We’re back for the Thursday live blog, your home of all the goings on in the cycling world as we edge towards the weekend… Dan Alexander will be bringing you all your news, reaction and more
  • by Dan Alexander
Thu, Jun 06, 2024 08:00
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SUMMARY

  • Cyclist's stolen penny-farthing returned following help from Jeremy Vine
  • Wout van Aert spotted on BLUE Cervélo amid Visma-Lease a Bike "leaked" Tour kit rumours
  • The leaked Tour de France road bikes — new bikes from Trek, Pinarello, Canyon, Dare & Wilier
  • Cycling UK writes to political candidates asking for commitment to manifesto supporting active travel
  • (Lloyds Bank) Tour of Britain begins today
  • Lanterne Rouge Cycling Podcast discusses Jamie's Ineos-irritating public filming
  • Mayor fined €100 for riding on street where cycling is banned by the council, while shooting ‘cycle to work’ video to encourage cycling in Barcelona
  • Ferrari Formula 1 driver Carlos Sainz goes training with Tadej Pogačar
  • Former pro cyclists showering between car doors arrested for "indecent" and "gay" behaviour while training for Unbound Gravel in Oklahoma
  • Critérium du Dauphiné stage CANCELLED following huge crash
  • Remco Evenepoel: "The helmet saved me today"
  • Lotte Kopecky wins opening stage of Tour of Britain... JUST...
  • Frightening roadside footage shows high-speed Dauphiné crash that saw stage cancelled
Critérium du Dauphiné stage cancelled after huge crash
Critérium du Dauphiné stage cancelled after huge crash (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Eurosport)
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6 June 2024, 08:00

Cyclist's stolen penny-farthing returned following help from Jeremy Vine

Maybe Jeremy Vine was right about that red rear tyre being the distinguishing factor here…

Jeremy Vine penny-farthing appeal
Jeremy Vine penny-farthing appeal (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Jeremy Vine penny-farthing appeal
Jeremy Vine penny-farthing appeal (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Well, this morning the BBC and Channel 5 broadcaster broke the good news: “The thief realised there was too much heat. He got in touch with Robert and the bike is now back with its owner.”

Vine joked it’s “yet another argument for the mass adoption of penny-farthings — they’re virtually impossible to steal, and it takes three months to learn to ride one”.

Oh, and when you do, you’re still unseen by some…

Jeremy Vine penny farthing video (Twitter/@theJeremyVine)
@theJeremyVine) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Jeremy Vine penny farthing video (Twitter/@theJeremyVine)
@theJeremyVine) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Jeremy Vine rides penny-farthing along cycle lane… gets blocked off by a driver who ignored cyclist priority

Oh, and you can still cause yourself an injury by falling off it…

Jeremy Vine after penny farthing crash (screenshot via Twitter, Jeremy Vine on 5)
Jeremy Vine after penny farthing crash (screenshot via Twitter, Jeremy Vine on 5) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Jeremy Vine after penny farthing crash (screenshot via Twitter, Jeremy Vine on 5)
Jeremy Vine after penny farthing crash (screenshot via Twitter, Jeremy Vine on 5) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> “I’ve been in the wars”: Jeremy Vine suffers nasty penny-farthing crash

And whether you wear a helmet while wearing one or not can still spark a pointless debate. It’s just like riding a (normal sized) bike… just without discs vs rim brakes… sold?

6 June 2024, 08:00

Wout van Aert spotted on BLUE Cervélo amid Visma-Lease a Bike "leaked" Tour kit rumours

Wout van Aert, Jonas Vingegaard and Christophe Laporte are training in the Alps as the weeks tick down and the race against time to be fit for the Tour de France continues. A video of the trio emerged, Van Aert launching a sprint on what appears to be a blue Cervélo. Now, maybe it’s just what’s available to him, it’s just a training bike after all… should anyone care?

Well, naturally it’s sparked the internet gossip section into full swing, with people predicting Visma-Lease a Bike might be about to have a radical kit colour change ahead of the Tour. 

Look at that new bike of Wout van Aert 👀 Does it hint to the new Visma – Lease a Bike Tour de France jersey? 💙

Do you know what peloton misses the most? Yes, another blue jersey 😂 pic.twitter.com/zwk3FDTVqc

— Lukáš Ronald Lukács (@lucasaganronald) June 5, 2024

Then, this image appeared on French site Cyclism A’ctu…

Visma-Lease a Bike "leak"
Visma-Lease a Bike "leak" (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Visma-Lease a Bike "leak"
Visma-Lease a Bike "leak" (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A major change from the yellow bee theme (which needs altering due to the race leader’s maillot jaune), but also complete rubbish, according to Wielerflits. While the team has not officially commented, the Dutch cycling news site says this isn’t it… to everyone’s relief. 

6 June 2024, 08:00

The leaked Tour de France road bikes — new bikes from Trek, Pinarello, Canyon, Dare & Wilier

> The leaked Tour de France road bikes — new bikes from Trek, Pinarello, Canyon, Dare & Wilier

6 June 2024, 08:00

Cycling UK writes to political candidates asking for commitment to manifesto supporting active travel

Cyclists at traffic lights, London
Cyclists at traffic lights, London (Image Credit: Simon MacMichael)
Cyclists at traffic lights, London
Cyclists at traffic lights, London (Image Credit: Simon MacMichael)

Cycling UK has written to all the main party candidates standing at the general election, asking for support to be pledged to a manifesto that asks to enable people to live happier, healthier and greener lives through cycling, BikeBiz reports. Using independent research by the Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR), one of Cycling UK’s six manifesto points asks for at least 10 per cent of the total transport budget to be used for active travel within five years. The points include:

  • Deliver long-term investment in cycling, walking and wheeling

  • Provide better transport choices to reduce traffic

  • Build truly sustainable new homes and developments

  • Make our streets safer

  • Help everyone to access nature

  • Fix our failing road traffic laws

 “Cycling is a great transport option for millions of people across the UK and can save the NHS billions,” Sarah McMonagle, Cycling UK’s director of external affairs, said. “With firm commitments from candidates during the general election campaign, we can improve public health, address the climate crisis head-on, help boost the economy, and ease the cost-of-living crisis for everyone.

“This isn’t just an investment in transport, but an investment in a better and more prosperous future. Studies show for every £1 spent, we gain nearly £6 in benefits, one of the highest returns on investment from spending on transport. The public support is there, we have the blueprint to build better communities, and we’re urging all candidates to back them.”

6 June 2024, 08:00

(Lloyds Bank) Tour of Britain begins today

Trumping the Dauphiné today, there’s the pretty exciting matter of the Lloyds Bank Tour of Britain getting underway today. If you haven’t heard, Lloyds Bank have taken some cash out and get naming rights as part of the newly announced “powerful new partnership” with British Cycling.

It’s here! Race day 1⃣ and we’re heading straight into the mountains ⛰️

📍 Welshpool – Llandudno
⏰ 11:15
📏 142.5km
⬆️ 2,276m
📺 From 13:00 on @discoveryplusUK & YouTube
🚴 Highlights from 20:00 on @itvcycling #TourOfBritain pic.twitter.com/ohv539MOTi

— Lloyds Bank Tour of Britain (@TourofBritain) June 6, 2024

Stages one and two are in Wales, before the race crosses the border into England for this weekend’s visits to Warrington and Manchester. What’s more, the stages will be free to watch on YouTube from 1pm (or Discovery+ if you’ve paid your subscription and want to get your money’s worth).

SD Worx are predictably the headline act, Lotte Kopecky and Lorena Wiebes probably eyeing up every single stage between them. But with Pfeiffer Georgi and Lizzie Deignan flying the British flag and Charlotte Kool adding some competition for the sprints, things might not be so straightforward…

6 June 2024, 08:00

Lanterne Rouge Cycling Podcast discusses Jamie's Ineos-irritating public filming

You’ve probably seen it by now, but Jamie won’t be getting a Christmas card from anyone at Ineos Grenadiers this year (not that any of us would have anyway)…

It got the seal of approval from the Lanterne Rouge Cycling Podcast, Patrick Broe and Benji Naesen saying “this was funny” and enjoying Jamie’s amusing efforts like the rest of us.

“You’re coming to a public event with a new bicycle, a new Pinarello. It was already spotted a few weeks ago, it is likely that a journalist will come and will try and report on your new bike.

“Like you telling that journalist to basically go away, this filming a new bike that you bring to a public event. To me, that sounds stupid. What is the next step?
You’re going to tell Eurosport to stop putting the Ineos riders on screen because they’re riding a new Pinarello Dogma? Like what’s the point here?”

Anyway, here’s the full story on the bike they were so desperate to avoid being filmed.

6 June 2024, 08:00

Mayor fined €100 for riding on street where cycling is banned by the council, while shooting ‘cycle to work’ video to encourage cycling in Barcelona

Barcelona Mayor Jaume Collboni fined while shooting World Bicycle Day video
Barcelona Mayor Jaume Collboni fined while shooting World Bicycle Day video (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Barcelona Mayor Jaume Collboni fined while shooting World Bicycle Day video
Barcelona Mayor Jaume Collboni fined while shooting World Bicycle Day video (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Mayor fined €100 for riding on street where cycling is banned by the council, while shooting ‘cycle to work’ video to encourage cycling in Barcelona

6 June 2024, 08:00

Ferrari Formula 1 driver Carlos Sainz goes training with Tadej Pogačar

6 June 2024, 08:00

Former pro cyclists showering between car doors arrested for "indecent" and "gay" behaviour while training for Unbound Gravel in Oklahoma

Laurens ten Dam (left) and Thomas Dekker (Instagram: @ourthomasdekker)
Laurens ten Dam (left) and Thomas Dekker (Instagram: @ourthomasdekker) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Laurens ten Dam (left) and Thomas Dekker (Instagram: @ourthomasdekker)
Laurens ten Dam (left) and Thomas Dekker (Instagram: @ourthomasdekker) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Former pro cyclists showering between car doors arrested for “indecent” and “gay” behaviour while training for Unbound Gravel in Oklahoma

6 June 2024, 08:00

Critérium du Dauphiné stage CANCELLED following huge crash

Terrible scenes at the Critérium du Dauphiné, wet roads and a huge crash bringing down a large chunk of the peloton, including race leader Remco Evenepoel, Primož Roglič, Juan Ayuso and numerous others.

Remco Evenepoel Dauphine crash (Eurosport)
Remco Evenepoel Dauphine crash (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Remco Evenepoel Dauphine crash (Eurosport)
Remco Evenepoel Dauphine crash (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Critérium du Dauphiné stage cancelled after huge crash (Eurosport)
Critérium du Dauphiné stage cancelled after huge crash (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Critérium du Dauphiné stage cancelled after huge crash (Eurosport)
Critérium du Dauphiné stage cancelled after huge crash (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The organisers communicated via social media: “The stage will be neutralised due to the lack of medical assistance still available. No time will be taken on this stage, and there will be no stage winner.”

With so many riders affected it will take some time to get word on everyone involved, but Visma-Lease a Bike’s wretched luck certainly continued, Dylan van Baarle and Steven Kruijswijk being taken to hospital in an ambulance, Van Baarle appearing to have his arm in a sling.

The logistical challenge which has seen the stage cancelled is that all the ambulances are required to attend to the injured from the crash, meaning if the stage were to continue there would not be sufficient medical coverage if something else were then to happen. The riders will continue to the finish, but the racing is done. No time gaps will be taken and it’s purely processional.

The TV pictures just picked out Ayuso, the Spaniard’s knee bloodied and with a large hole in his shorts, a road rash-covered hip on show too. He leaned against his team car and did not looking particularly happy with life, but the fact he was on the bike is a small positive at least. Lidl-Trek’s Alex Kirsch also sported some nasty looking road rash…

Alex Kirsch Dauphine (Eurosport)
Alex Kirsch Dauphine (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Alex Kirsch Dauphine (Eurosport)
Alex Kirsch Dauphine (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Without knowing the full extent of any injuries, both Van Baarle and Kruijswijk were expected to be part of Visma-Lease a Bike’s Tour squad so, when you add in Jonas Vingegaard and Wout van Aert’s fitness question marks, plus Christophe Laporte and Jan Tratnik’s disrupted seasons, it leaves just Sepp Kuss (who doesn’t want to be GC leader), Matteo Jorgenson and Tiesj Benoot as having had a clear run in the first half of 2024. They all must be cursing their luck. 

The Dutch duo appeared to be the worst injured, and thankfully both of them were up, conscious and talking. DNFs and medical reports of potential fractures, bruises, road rash and other injuries will presumably continue to roll in throughout the evening and into the pre-stage morning tomorrow. This was the incident in full, very nasty indeed:

🛑NEUTRALIZADA LA #Dauphiné por una durísima caída masiva

🚴‍♂️Algo en el asfalto ha podido provocar la caída de Evenepoel, Landa o Juan Ayuso entre otros…

🔴EN DIRECTO: https://t.co/nsw3Bzit0L pic.twitter.com/D6xTKzzmsH

— Teledeporte (@teledeporte) June 6, 2024

More to follow… 

6 June 2024, 08:00

Remco Evenepoel: "The helmet saved me today"

Remco Evenepoel (Criterium du Dauphine)
Remco Evenepoel (Criterium du Dauphine) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Remco Evenepoel (Criterium du Dauphine)
Remco Evenepoel (Criterium du Dauphine) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The race leader was one of many riders to hit the deck in that massive pile-up that saw the end of the fifth stage at the Dauphiné, Remco Evenepoel giving his helmet a shout-out in the post-stage interview.

“Overall, it’s okay, I crashed on the right side, on my head… the helmet saved me today,” he said. “There are guys in a worse situation than I am now so I hope and wish everybody a good recovery. I fell on my shoulder again, I think it’s bleeding, we’ll have to see tonight and tomorrow.

“No idea [what happened], everybody was fighting for position for the descent like always. It was the last tricky point of the course and then some guys started to slide in front of me. There was a bike that came under my bike and I just went over. A bit unlucky but yeah, I’m not the only one today.”

Ineos Grenadiers’ Michal Kwiatkowski said it was a “good decision” by the organisers to neutralise the stage. 

“I was also down, but feel fine, no injuries,” he reported, the Pole one of many in the same boat.

6 June 2024, 08:00

Lotte Kopecky wins opening stage of Tour of Britain... JUST...

I’ve got Ian Smith’s “barest of margins” commentary from England’s win at the 2019 Cricket World Cup back in my head having watched this finish between Lotte Kopecky and Letizia Paternoster on the opening stage of the Tour of Britain today. Kopecky got the win, despite the Italian raising her arm in celebration thinking she’d nabbed it.

2024 Tour of Britain Women stage one finish
2024 Tour of Britain Women stage one finish (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2024 Tour of Britain Women stage one finish
2024 Tour of Britain Women stage one finish (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Paternoster was certainly finishing faster, and another few metres would have made the victory hers, but alas the world champion has another victory on her incredibly impressive palmares. Credit to British Cycling, putting together a race, and a cracking stage (in just a matter of weeks).

Pfeiffer Georgi and Lizzie Deignan were third and fourth, while Anna Henderson also represented the Brits well in the front group. Tomorrow’s stage starts and ends in Wrexham, the climb of Horseshoe Pass with 30km to go the main challenge for the peloton. 

👋 Letizia Paternoster, giving the fans love and then racing to victory in the sprint segment.

Iconic.@LetyPaternoster | @GreenEDGEWCT | #TourOfBritain pic.twitter.com/9k2f16e047

— Lloyds Bank Tour of Britain (@TourofBritain) June 6, 2024

6 June 2024, 08:00

Frightening roadside footage shows high-speed Dauphiné crash that saw stage cancelled

It looked even worse from the roadside and gives a sense of just how fast they were going… 

Le pauvre chien qui a eu la peur de sa vie 😵🐶 #Dauphiné pic.twitter.com/ehQDhVNljf

— 𝕌𝕣𝕓𝕒𝕚𝕟 𝔾𝕣𝕒𝕟𝕕𝕚𝕖𝕣 (@keyshawn__bava) June 6, 2024

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Dan Alexander
Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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  1. alexuk
    June 6, 2024 at 8:08 am
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    Glad its been returned! now

    Glad its been returned! now lets make getting bikes back to their owners the norm!

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    • andystow
      June 6, 2024 at 1:53 pm
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      alexuk wrote:

      Glad its been returned! now lets make getting bikes back to their owners the norm!

      — alexuk

      Yes, it should be a perfectly ordinary thing.

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  2. mattw
    June 6, 2024 at 10:06 am
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    I think the Cycling UK

    I think the Cycling UK manifesto is great, and we need to get in now to have a voice in policy being defined rather than trying to redirect once the train has left.

    Now – lobby those new PCCs and Regional Mayors !

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    • chrisonabike
      June 6, 2024 at 10:29 am
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      Absolutely.  But that’s been

      Absolutely.  But that’s been a hard nut to crack!  I think because policity often seems to be reactive – first something is happening, and then you either mandate “more of it” or try to ban it.  That runs up against:

      a) motornormativity and the immediate uphill battle (for years) if you propose anything that can be spun as “war on the motorist” / “anti-business (as we know it)” *.
      b) … so much of the potential energy / effort goes on merely “keeping the ship afloat” e.g. fighting against the negative / trying to get the small practical gains implemented and then keep that on track.  Bigger picture – perhaps it’s easier to motivate people to fight *against* something?
      c) A kind of “not invented here” – because all the feedback keeping it at “trial” level** somehow cycling continually seems to be at best at “but we don’t know if it works here / now?” status. (Plenty of “history repeating” on this).

      Thoughts on getting round those?  (I think Sustrans have been trying, with the “work our way into the councils” – at least in Edinburgh).

      * Of course things which negatively affect motorists / local businesses occur all the time.  Works – often not directly for motorists’ benefit e.g. utilities works, private developments etc.  Those are of course driven by the cash flowing to companies (which can then back politicians – and “employment” and “tax”).  They’re also sellable as “potential benefits in the future” which people understand / believe in.  In general people don’t know how or even believe that mass cycling could be a benefit!

      ** Often setting actual projects up to fail because of compromises built in from the start.  We agree to try it but only if it doesn’t make life harder for motorists or otherwise lead to angry shouting!

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  3. Moist von Lipwig
    June 6, 2024 at 10:29 am
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    Noticed the blue Cervelo the

    Noticed the blue Cervelo the other day.  WVA has a picture of Laperte on one on his 3rd June ‘Entre copains’ ride, although the Cervelo logo is white not yellow.

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  4. Hirsute
    June 6, 2024 at 12:35 pm
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    “So cyclists should not

    “So cyclists should not undertake or filter either, when there is less than 1.5m space?”

    “Do you also wonder: “How come it’s OK for a baby to sleep on ?? chest but it’s not OK for me to sleep on ????? chest?‽!‽!””

     

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    • mitsky
      June 6, 2024 at 2:48 pm
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      CyclingMikey’s clip showing

      CyclingMikey’s clip showing the difference between the two using trains as an example:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikWFQquoZto

      and Jeremy Vine’s clip using a hand and a hammer:
      https://twitter.com/thejeremyvine/status/1492768026965463040?s=61&t=wlq_RPAZ5AFe3jBf_Xl1Jw

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  5. ubercurmudgeon
    June 6, 2024 at 12:54 pm
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    It was good of you to

    It was good of you to pixelate Steve Cummings’s face in that Pinarello video, so that nobody would know he’s the one being so strict about your filming, what with his accent, demeanour, and head shape being so lacking in distinctiveness.

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  6. ReluctantPotHoler
    June 6, 2024 at 1:46 pm
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    “Stages one and two are in

    “Stages one and two are in Wales, before the race crosses the border into England for this weekend’s visits to Warrington and Manchester.“

    Stage two starts and finishes in Wales tomorrow, but about half of it is in England.

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    • Simon E
      June 6, 2024 at 9:55 pm
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      ReluctantPotHoler wrote:

      Stage two starts and finishes in Wales tomorrow, but about half of it is in England.

      — ReluctantPotHolerAh, but the far nicer half is in Wales – especially the road from Ruabon on the north side of the Dee valley / Dyffryn Dyfrdwy and of course the wonderful Horseshoe Pass. smiley

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  7. Rendel Harris
    June 6, 2024 at 2:16 pm
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    Hope there are no serious

    Hope there are no serious injuries in the Dauphine; what’s with the capitalisation of “cancelled” there, isn’t that sort of thing reserved for the Daily Mail?

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    • Steve K
      June 7, 2024 at 5:25 am
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      No, if it had been the Mail

      No, if it had been the Mail it would have been “Blow for Woke cyclists as race is CANCELLED”

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  8. dubwise
    June 6, 2024 at 2:21 pm
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    Should it not be:

    Should it not be:

    (Lloyds Bank) Tour of a tiny wee bit of Britain begins today, because they are too lazy to go further north.

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    • quiff
      June 6, 2024 at 2:47 pm
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      Wait til you see the Tour de

      Wait til you see the Tour de France route map.

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    • Brauchsel
      June 6, 2024 at 4:37 pm
      0

      It’s not going very far south

      It’s not going very far south either. Almost like you can’t cover much of the country in four stages with a very limited budget, and I’m glad that they’re not wasting emissions on long transfers to Scotland/the south-west/London/etc for this edition. 

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      • dubwise
        June 6, 2024 at 10:17 pm
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        You do realise that Britain
        You do realise that Britain is not a country?

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        • Rendel Harris
          June 7, 2024 at 5:29 am
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          dubwise wrote:

          You do realise that Britain is not a country?

          — dubwise

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          • wtjs
            June 7, 2024 at 8:39 am
            0

            I think he meant ‘Britain is

            I think he meant ‘Britain is not a country’

          • Rendel Harris
            June 7, 2024 at 9:10 am
            0

            wtjs wrote:

            I think he meant ‘Britain is not a country’

            — wtjs

            Yes, but Britain is a country when it is used as per definition above as an informal way of referring to the United Kingdom.

          • wtjs
            June 7, 2024 at 9:29 am
            0

            Britain is a country when it

            Britain is a country when it is used as per definition above as an informal way of referring to the United Kingdom

            I suppose one question would be whether any ‘Tour of Britain’ has visited Northern Ireland

          • quiff
            June 7, 2024 at 9:39 am
            0

            Would that not be the Tour of

            Would that not be the Tour of the UK?

            [Edit – sorry, think that’s the point you were making]

  9. mitsky
    June 6, 2024 at 2:56 pm
    0

    With regards to Cycling UK’s

    With regards to Cycling UK’s message to political parties, can I add:

    – fund the police, courts and prisons sufficiently to take dangerous drivers off the roads, at the first instance, not wait for people to die at the hands of dangerous drivers before removing them from society

    Given people have said in numerous surveys that they feel it it too dangerous to cycle on roads, then authorities should deal with the source of the problem: DANGEROUS DRIVERS.

    Driving is a priviledge. Not a right.

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  10. mitsky
    June 6, 2024 at 3:14 pm
    0

    “Car crash casualties in

    “Car crash casualties in Wales fall after 20mph limit brought in…

    The number of casualties on roads with these speed limits fell from 681 in the final quarter of 2022 to 463 in the fourth quarter of 2023.”

    Is it worth suggesting that anyone who disagrees with the 20mph limit should be the ones required to pay the police/NHS/etc costs for all the casualties if the limit is increased back to 30mph…? 

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/car-crash-casualties-wales-fall-29302817.amp

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    • hawkinspeter
      June 7, 2024 at 8:28 am
      0

      mitsky wrote:

      “Car crash casualties in Wales fall after 20mph limit brought in…

      The number of casualties on roads with these speed limits fell from 681 in the final quarter of 2022 to 463 in the fourth quarter of 2023.”

      Is it worth suggesting that anyone who disagrees with the 20mph limit should be the ones required to pay the police/NHS/etc costs for all the casualties if the limit is increased back to 30mph…? 

      https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/car-crash-casualties-wales-fall-29302817.amp

      — mitsky

      Also, the benefit in reducing road casualties isn’t just monetary. That’s over 200 people who didn’t have a bad day.

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      • mitsky
        June 7, 2024 at 12:38 pm
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        Try telling that to people

        Agreed.

        Though try telling that to people who value convenience and imaginary/minscule reductions in journey times above all else.

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@Rendel Harris I really do think that this comment pretended I said something else, then responded to that. If you want the target excessive speed you should be in favour of speed limits set by the 85th percentile rule.

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@chrisonabike Yes, on most residential side streets lined with parked cars average speeds were already well below 30. The 30 was a legal ceiling for a lit restricted road, not a suggestion to use that speed. If you drive 30 down a street like that and hit a child, “I wasn’t speeding” was never a defence. Most people already do not want to crash or run someone over. The idea that they only drive too fast for the conditions because a sign failed to tell them not to is the bit I do not accept. Atkins found signed-only 20s cut speeds by about 0.8mph. That also tells you very little about the fastest 1–5%. A 25mph limit is the same proportionate step as 60 to 50. 32mph is just reductio.

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@chrisonabike Away with you and have a look at e.g. the demographics before you “fact up” again I agree- he appears to be such a dimwitted tosser that it's difficult to believe it's not a parody 'dimwitted tosser' account

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For other good news from NL: children there are consistently ranked the world's happiest. Lots of different reasons feed into that but I'd suggest "independent personal mobility" might be a part. (And perhaps more quality time with carers than just an in-car sing-along while being driven to school, friends, leisure activities etc.)

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@jackcycles blimey - that's two "fact"s in one post. You've nearly proved that under the Bellman principle! Away with you and have a look at e.g. the demographics before you "fact up" again. (You could even have a look at "how are they dying / being injured" but you can save that effort if you do the first). You can get e.g. the 2023 lot over at KiM Netherlands Institute for Transport Policy Analysis - Publications - Cycling facts 2023 - in English. Page 30 would be a good place to start. Alternatively Bicycle Dutch has another one of his soothingly-intoned videos on this to go along with his presentation of (mostly that) data (article "Cycling Safety in the Netherlands: challenges and solutions"). Just the thing! Of course you could suggest pursuing the UK's "safety - or convenience" approach further: implement Vision Zero Cycling. Having no cyclists should lead to zero cycling casualties. Or perhaps restrict it to those in early adulthood who've passed a medical and confine it to velodromes (with low speed limits!) Then gloat at how much safer we've made cycling in the UK than NL!

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