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“If there’s a proper cycle lane, safer and easier than travelling on the road, 99.9% of cyclists will take it”: Cycling club chairman hits back at drivers moaning about riders using the road; Weekend round-up + more on the live blog

Welcome to the first live blog of the week, hopefully you all had a relaxing weekend! Dan Alexander is back in the hot seat for Monday’s edition
  • by Dan Alexander
Mon, Sep 26, 2022 08:07
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SUMMARY

  • Weekend round-up: Remco reigns, Annemiek's extraordinary victory, Mathieu's nightmare night's sleep, Tech of the Week, Competition time, Bike review + more
  • Mondays...
  • Shit cycling shots — the final four
  • King Remco — Specialized celebrates sixth men's world champion in nine years
  • Queen Annemiek
  • Kudos-worthy rides
  • road.cc reviewer Ed Morgan wins U23 Men’s National Road Series
  • Reaction to cycling club chairman explaining why cyclists don't always use cycle lanes... (believe us, we'd love to!)
  • "If there's a proper cycle lane, safer and easier than travelling on the road, 99.9% of cyclists will take it": Cycling club chairman hits back at drivers moaning about riders using the road
  • Government blocks councils from enforcing 15mph speed limits
  • Vatican makes World Championships debut
  • Mark Beaumont smashes North Coast 500 record by half an hour
  • We deserve a pint!
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26 September 2022, 08:07

Weekend round-up: Remco reigns, Annemiek's extraordinary victory, Mathieu's nightmare night's sleep, Tech of the Week, Competition time, Bike review + more

Annemiek van Vleuten wins World Championships (Alex Broadway/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Annemiek van Vleuten wins World Championships (Alex Broadway/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

[Alex Broadway/SWpix.com]

What a weekend it was Down Under…

We started with Van Vleuten’s improbable victory: fractured elbow bandaged to the maximum, working all day for Marianne Vos, dropped on the climb, heading for a sprint… and still the Dutch superstar found a way to win. Incredible scenes for just gone eight on a Saturday morning…

Giro, Tour, Vuelta and Worlds. Is that the best season of any pro rider ever? I think Ryan’s got a feature to update…

> From Coppi to Van Vleuten: Cycling’s greatest ever seasons

Then, yesterday, the drama kept on rolling. First, off the road, with Mathieu van der Poel’s arrest following a hotel corridor incident (we’ll have an update on that one shortly) and then with Remco’s coronation as Belgium’s king of world cycling. 

Elsewhere on road.cc this weekend:

> Check out Biniam Girmay’s custom painted Cube Litening C:68X for the World Champs

> Jury clears ‘hungover’ Porsche driver of killing cyclist by dangerous driving

> Tech of the Week: Are you tempted by this app that links video and 3D mapping of your rides? Plus new stuff from Shimano, Pirelli, Endura & loads more

> “I’ve never seen anything like it”: Cyclists hospitalised by loose gravel crash seek compensation from council

> Review: Fara Cycling F/AR

> Win! Hunt Aerodynamicist Carbon Disc Wheelset + accessories worth over £900!

Plenty to get your teeth into to ease yourself back into work!

26 September 2022, 08:07

Mondays...

pic.twitter.com/yXN80iskl2

— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) September 25, 2022

Fridays…

pic.twitter.com/vKE2hSEgUn

— Amy (@akwca) September 25, 2022

26 September 2022, 08:07

Shit cycling shots — the final four

Anyone who has attempted to snap a photo of a moving cyclist — whether that be at the Tour de France, club 10 or just a mate spinning past the pub — will know it’s not always that easy to get your photo to look as polished as the pro snappers manage…

How you think your photo is going to look… (credit to Alex Whitehead for SWpix in Wollongong this weekend)…

Annemiek van Vleuten wins World Championships (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Annemiek van Vleuten wins World Championships (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

How it actually looks…

SHIT CYCLING PHOTOGRAPHY – THE FINAL

One of these images will be crowned as The World’s Shittest Cycling Photograph.

This is it, the big finale, your votes count. We’ve whittled down your favourites to the last four.

Please vote, retweet & like..this matters!#cyclinglife pic.twitter.com/THjou4EKal

— Shit Cycling Shots (@ShitBikePhotos) September 26, 2022

Have a browse through the final four and be sure to let them know which is your favourite, just don’t expect to see many bikes… 

26 September 2022, 08:07

King Remco — Specialized celebrates sixth men's world champion in nine years

Remco Evenepoel wins 2022 World Championships in Wollongong (@cauldphoto/Specialized)
Specialized) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Remco Evenepoel wins 2022 World Championships in Wollongong (@cauldphoto/Specialized)
Specialized) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 [📷: @cauldphoto/Specialized]

Quiet news day in Belgium this morning?

World Champion 2022! 🇧🇪🌈🥇🔥

Dreams do come true, can’t wait to wear the Rainbow Jersey next season!! 🙏🏼

Thanks to the entire team for the amazing work today, a perfect race for us and very proud to finish it off!! 👊🏼

We are Belgium ❤️ pic.twitter.com/2mSUAp2sJT

— Remco Evenepoel (@EvenepoelRemco) September 25, 2022

Remember before the Vuelta when everyone was asking whether Remco would ‘ever’ deliver on his promise of greatness? I mean…🤣

— Orla Chennaoui (@SportsOrla) September 25, 2022

From one champion to another 🌈

Julian Alaphilippe congratulates Remco Evenepoel on succeeding him as men’s world road race champion 🤝

📸 @gettysport
__________
🌎 #Wollongong2022 pic.twitter.com/sGPAq1y85n

— Velon CC (@VelonCC) September 25, 2022

To be a fly on the wall of Patrick Lefevere’s residence these past 24 hours. Specialized is, of course, very happy with the win too — the bike brand’s sixth men’s world champ in nine years, a run that includes a trio of Sagan rainbows, a duo of Alaphilippe’s, and now a Remco win to go alongside Michal Kwiatkowski’s 2014 success too.

Remco Evenepoel wins 2022 World Championships in Wollongong (@cauldphoto/Specialized)
Specialized) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Remco Evenepoel wins 2022 World Championships in Wollongong (@cauldphoto/Specialized)
Specialized) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

[📷: @cauldphoto/Specialized]

The brand is quick to point out in its post-Worlds celebratory press release that it hasn’t exactly been slouching on the women’s side of things either…with five wins since 2015 too.

Congratulations to @EvenepoelRemco , your new Elite Road World Champion! pic.twitter.com/4eTFHwpD39

— Specialized Bicycles (@iamspecialized) September 25, 2022

26 September 2022, 08:07

Queen Annemiek

Annemiek van Vleuten wins World Championships (Alex Broadway/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Annemiek van Vleuten wins World Championships (Alex Broadway/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

[📷: Alex Broadway/SWpix.com]

Maybe it’s because I got up at 6am on Saturday morning to get our race report ready and watched every pedal stroke of the final 70km, but I have to admit I found Annemiek’s win far more enjoyable than Remco’s. Both fantastic, in different ways, but the adrenaline-packed final of an injury-battered underdog snatching dramatic victory did more for me than a prodigy proving his greatness with a prolonged procession.

> From Coppi to Van Vleuten: Cycling’s greatest ever seasons

If I’m no longer allowed entry to Belgium for this opinion then that’s just something I’ll have to live with… 

Annemiek van Vleuten wins World Championships (Simon Wilkinson/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Annemiek van Vleuten wins World Championships (Simon Wilkinson/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

[📷: Alex Broadway/SWpix.com]

Netflix better have been there or we riot. It really was the least expected day…

#ElDiaMenosPensado @Movistar_Team Good title for the next title of the Netflix serie episode 4. 😉 #Wollongong2022 pic.twitter.com/heOOY7v1jh

— Annemiek van Vleuten (@AvVleuten) September 26, 2022 

26 September 2022, 08:07

Kudos-worthy rides

Disappointed neither of these were uploaded as ‘Morning ride’, but whatever…

 

 

 

26 September 2022, 08:07

road.cc reviewer Ed Morgan wins U23 Men’s National Road Series

Forget Down Under, road.cc reviewer Ed Morgan won the U23 Men’s National Road Series this weekend after a burst water main on the Central U23 Classic meant the final of the three events was cancelled. With Ed in the lead, he’s the winner, adding to a very impressive 2022…

The final race of the shortened U23 Men’s National Road Series, the Central U23 Classic, has been cancelled due to a major burst water main on the circuit.

This means Ed Morgan (Wales Racing Academy) is the Series winner after two rounds.

1/2https://t.co/tMOyteqslA

— The British Continental (@BritishConti) September 24, 2022

Congrats, Ed!

For a sneak peek at what Ed’s got on-test at the minute, check out our recent five cool things…

> The making uncool things cool edition: Five cool things coming soon from BMC, Pirelli, Van Rysel, Velotoze and Hornit

> Five cool things coming soon from Garmin, Lezyne, Crono, Tronsmart and, um, Lezyne again

26 September 2022, 08:07

Reaction to cycling club chairman explaining why cyclists don't always use cycle lanes... (believe us, we'd love to!)

I know your pain https://t.co/uUh3gh4DmL

— MERSEY ROAD WATCH (@UKCYCLIST) September 26, 2022

Some reaction from Twitter to our main live blog story of the morning…

Another problem with cycle lanes is many of them appear to have been designed by someone who has only seen a picture of a bike in a book somewhere, or last rode one when they were 10 years old.

— 💧Antifa – just like my dad (@Leaping_Leroy) September 26, 2022

Plus, if they took the time to get up close and have a look at the condition of these lanes (e.g. potholes, debris, width, length, poor planning) they might see why some avoid them. Just yesterday I walked along a new one in Liverpool and it was literally full of broken glass

— Kelza Pilkington 💙🏳️‍🌈☮ they/them/she/her (@KelzaPilkington) September 26, 2022

26 September 2022, 08:07

"If there's a proper cycle lane, safer and easier than travelling on the road, 99.9% of cyclists will take it": Cycling club chairman hits back at drivers moaning about riders using the road

Christchurch Bicycle Club’s chairman David Orme sprung to the wider cycling community’s defence to try to explain some of the reasons why riders might opt against using a cycle lane, choosing to ride in the road instead.

 A Poole community Facebook group post took off when a local suggested, “all the cycle lanes in the world won’t help with congestion if cyclists don’t use them”… ah yes, we’re doing the cyclists cause congestion thing again…

How public transportation reduces traffic congestion pic.twitter.com/U0TLZzrYko

— H0W_THlNGS_W0RK (@wowinteresting8) September 17, 2022

Others said riders on the road “drives them nuts”…

Responding to the complaints, David largely echoed the sentiment of the Highway Code, saying cycle lanes are to be used at cyclists’ discretion, where they make our journey “safer and easier”.

> Row over Dorset cycle lane that drivers claim is “too wide”

He told DorsetLive: “If there’s a proper, designated cycle lane that is safer and easier than travelling on the road, then 99.9 per cent of cyclists will take it. The trouble is the vast majority of cycle lanes are either badly designed, they’re inconvenient or cars block them.”

Time for this classic to be reposted in all its glory…

Cycle lane parked car (Image credit: Rob Ainsley sent to us)
Cycle lane parked car (Image credit: Rob Ainsley sent to us) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cycle lane parked car (Image credit: Rob Ainsley sent to us)
Cycle lane parked car (Image credit: Rob Ainsley sent to us) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

He added that riders cycle on the road, ignoring the cycle lane, normally “because it’s less convenient or less safe — they’re usually the two reasons that people don’t use the cycle lanes.”

Cycle lane live blog comment
Cycle lane live blog comment (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cycle lane live blog comment
Cycle lane live blog comment (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

David said: “As a cyclist you can go the way that motorists go, or you can stop for every single junction and wait at the traffic lights. If I’m trying to get somewhere in a hurry, why should I want to stop at each individual lane, when I could just do what the traffic does which is a lot quicker?

“It’s also dependent on how efficient the lane is. If it’s inefficient and you’re trying to get somewhere you’ll take a shortest route because you don’t want to go around the house or keep stopping. Stopping takes up so much energy as a cyclist. If you have to keep stopping, it just uses twice as much energy.

“If I take people on rides, and I see a cycle lane in a place that I don’t know, I often don’t take it because I know that nine times out of ten I’ll go on it and suddenly it will dump me into a dead end road or pavement. It’s the trust in them that they’re not going to just dump me after ten yards and it becomes a bit of a waste of time going on it.”

26 September 2022, 08:07

Government blocks councils from enforcing 15mph speed limits

The DfT has banned councils from enforcing 15mph speed limits

It rejected a request from Tha City of London, due to concerns over speedometer accuracy https://t.co/aXXSyFn3Wo

— APPGCW (@allpartycycling) September 24, 2022

 The government has prevented the City of London from enforcing 15mph speed limits due to concerns about the accuracy of speedometers at low speeds, and the fact that some are not marked with a 5mph scale. The Independent reports other councils in built-up areas were expected to follow the City of London’s lead, a plan the authority outlined last year, but the Department for Transport has now stepped in.

> Wales set to reduce default speed limit to 20mph in residential areas

The government department told the Independent it would be difficult for some drivers to comply with the lower limit and it would be problematic to enforce. In response, the City is expected to set an “advisory” 15mph speed limit, but it will not be legally enforceable.

Shravan Joshi, chair of the City of London Corporation’s planning and transportation committee, said: “Evidence shows that lower speeds help to reduce road danger and prevent injury to people travelling in the Square Mile.

> People most likely to commute by bike where traffic speed below 20mph – but presence of lorries on roads makes no difference, says study

“Despite this, we will continue to work to achieve a culture of slower speeds through street design and behaviour-change initiatives to help achieve our Vision Zero goal.”

London Living Streets chair, Jeremy Leach, said the news is “disappointing”, while Dr Suzy Chapman of the Road Safety Foundation said there is “no doubt that reduced speeds are absolutely critical to achieving a goal of zero road deaths and serious injuries.”

26 September 2022, 08:07

Vatican makes World Championships debut

Meet Rien Schuurhuis. Born in Groningen, the Netherlands, in 1982, the 40-year-old finished 40th out of 48 in last year’s Dutch national time trial championship, more than five minutes down on Tom Dumoulin. Yesterday, however, Schuurhuis pulled on the yellow and white of the Vatican City…

Obsessed with the Vatican rider being in this pic. pic.twitter.com/iEkvYhwvqp

— Katie (@medicinexthings) September 25, 2022

Yes, for those wondering, he was a DNF, but in great company on that front alongside Mathieu van der Poel, Luke Rowe, Ben O’Connor and 61 others… 

26 September 2022, 08:07

Mark Beaumont smashes North Coast 500 record by half an hour

Mark Beaumont NC500 2022 (picture credit Markus Stitz ( www.markusstitz.com ) for an upcoming GCN+ documentary)  (17).jpg
Mark Beaumont NC500 2022 (picture credit Markus Stitz ( www.markusstitz.com ) for an upcoming GCN+ documentary) (17) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Mark Beaumont NC500 2022 (picture credit Markus Stitz ( www.markusstitz.com ) for an upcoming GCN+ documentary)  (17).jpg
Mark Beaumont NC500 2022 (picture credit Markus Stitz ( www.markusstitz.com ) for an upcoming GCN+ documentary) (17) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

[📷: Markus Stitz]

Check out the full story of Mark Beaumont’s latest mind-boggling achievement…

> Mark Beaumont smashes North Coast 500 record by half an hour

Correctly uploaded with the appropriate title when posting a leg-breaking super-human ride (take notes, Remco and Annemiek)…

“morning ride”
fuxker (in the best possible way).
Has to be one of the biggest understatements on strava👏👏👏👏 pic.twitter.com/7B1iDHXEFY

— Real Gaz on a proper bike (@gazza_d) September 25, 2022

Long live the nonchalant ‘Morning ride’… 

26 September 2022, 08:07

We deserve a pint!

Maybe I’ll give this another share at half four on Friday…

I could not agree more! pic.twitter.com/sDPPK7nngR

— Cybergibbons 🚲🚲🚲 (@cybergibbons) September 26, 2022

26 September 2022, 08:07

More delays for Harrogate cycling schemes

Everyone’s favourite-named news outlet The Stray Ferret reports there are more delays for Harrogate’s active travel schemes to be funded by the £1 million won by North Yorkshire County Council in November 2020.

The council had previously said designs for cycle lanes, improved crossings and reduced speed limits would finally be announced in the summer, but now it seems this will be pushed back until at least the New Year, more than two years since funding.

Cllr Keane Duncan told The Stray Ferret: “We are still in the detailed design stage for active travel schemes on Victoria Avenue and the A59 near Knaresborough.

“Following discussions and guidance from Active Travel England we would like to amend the designs further for improved pedestrian and cycling use. A public consultation with final designs is likely to take place in the New Year. The study of Oatlands Drive will review the existing designs and prepare new ones, based on the data we collect, to give us some options for active travel and traffic calming improvements in the Oatlands area that could be trialled.

“We hope to launch the public consultation at the start of October.”

26 September 2022, 08:07

Mathieu van der Poel fined A$1,500 after pleading guilty to assault after hotel incident

Mathieu van der Poel fined A$1,500 after pleading guilty to assault after hotel incident

Dutch star who abandoned World Championship road race has now left Australia

26 September 2022, 08:07

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Mason celebrates new SLR and Exposure steel framesets with Launch Edition specials

Take an exclusive look at Mason's new premium steel grand-tourer and gravel bike in limited Launch Edition colours

26 September 2022, 08:07

Chris Froome doored on way home from training ride, sustains minor injuries

Chris Froome doored on way home from training ride, sustains minor injuries

Four-time Tour de France winner urges drivers to use the Dutch Reach technique to ensure safety of cyclists

26 September 2022, 08:07

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  1. ktache
    September 26, 2022 at 9:19 am
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    Was in Decathlon over the

    Was in Decathlon over the weekend. They have a bin for the disposal and recycling of tyres.

    They also had a range of tiny little rechargeable lights that do both white and red in different modes.

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    • brooksby
      September 26, 2022 at 9:48 am
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      Ah, maybe that explains why I

      Ah, maybe that explains why I seem to have seen more people riding around lately with red lights at the front and white at the back… 

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    • Rendel Harris
      September 26, 2022 at 10:03 am
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      ktache wrote:

      They also had a range of tiny little rechargeable lights that do both white and red in different modes.

      — ktache

      I have one of them in my saddlebag for emergency replacement if any of my main lights conks out. Not the most spectacular illumination but more than sufficient to get you home safely and the fact that it can be switched between red and white obviously saves space.

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    • EddyBerckx
      September 26, 2022 at 12:27 pm
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      ktache wrote:

      Was in Decathlon over the weekend. They have a bin for the disposal and recycling of tyres.

      — ktache

      Much appreciated for that info – noted, I have a few ready for them!

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  2. brooksby
    September 26, 2022 at 9:50 am
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    Gathering of 372 Nigels eases

    Gathering of 372 Nigels eases fears of mass ‘Nige’ extinction

    Gathering of 372 Nigels eases fears of mass ‘Nige’ extinction

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    • SimoninSpalding
      September 26, 2022 at 11:57 am
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      brooksby wrote:

      Gathering of 372 Nigels eases fears of mass ‘Nige’ extinction

      — brooksby

      Or increases hopes of their impending demise based on the apparent age profile of the attendees.

      For balance I should also note that Simons are in a similar predicament.

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      • essexian
        September 27, 2022 at 6:27 am
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        There were four of us Ian’s

        There were four of us Ian’s in my class at junior school but now, its all posh names which no one from the gutters of East London would have thought about back then.

         

        No, I am going to start a campaign to bring back Ian. Yes, we need more “E’s”!!!!

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        • IanMSpencer
          September 27, 2022 at 6:36 am
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          We’ve got a hurricane named
          We’ve got a hurricane named after us.* And it’s a biggy.

          There was one other Ian in my class. I remember demonstrating using scissors to cut my hair, taking a bit off the top (not something I could manage these days). Other Ian grasped a chunk of fringe and ended up with a half moon. We got into trouble, though to be honest, his hair wasn’t any worse after than my monthly massacre by mum.

          *Probably pronounced “Yan” by baffled Americans.

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  3. Brightspark
    September 26, 2022 at 10:39 am
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    I just heard the terrible

    I just heard the terrible news about John Froud.

    John was a good clubmate and training buddy. One of the old school who trained and raced the hard way and noted for his succcess in the Peace Race.

    My condolences to his family.

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    • Brightspark
      September 26, 2022 at 1:15 pm
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      I should add that John died

      I should add that John died after being rear ended by a driver of a van while partaing in the Epsom CC 25 event on the Bentley course yesterday morning. Details on the Time trial forum and the Basingstoke Gazzete.

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      • ktache
        September 26, 2022 at 1:25 pm
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        My thoughts are of course

        My thoughts are of course with John’s family and friends.

        Would seem that the Basingstoke Gazette’s reporting is quite good there.

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      • HoarseMann
        September 26, 2022 at 1:27 pm
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        Very sorry to hear that. Yet

        Very sorry to hear that. Yet another driver impaired by drugs.

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  4. chrisonabike
    September 26, 2022 at 10:43 am
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    Nothing is as convenient for
    Nothing is as convenient for cycling as a network of high-quality cycle paths (not lanes!):

    Netherlands’ Numbered Junction Bicycle Network

    Cycle paths which obviously allow you to achieve and maintain a high speed:
    http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/search/label/speed

    Nothing is as useless as the stuff we mostly see in the UK:
    http://wcc.crankfoot.xyz/facility-of-the-month/

    That – and the fact that drivers use it for parking and everyone use it for storage space – sadly makes UK cyclists suspicious about the whole concept.
    https://cyclingfallacies.com/en/25/we%E2%80%99ll-be-stuck-on-terrible-cycle-paths

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  5. Rendel Harris
    September 26, 2022 at 11:22 am
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    Apologies for linking to a

    Apologies for linking to a Daily Mail article, they seem to be the only outlet covering it, I wonder why?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11250447/Duke-Norfolk-planned-Queens-funeral-admits-running-red-light.html

    To precis for those who, quite understandably, don’t want their browsing history sullied by the Daily Mail: His Grace The Duke of Norfolk, Edward William Fitzalan-Howard, Earl Marshal of England, organiser of the Queen’s funeral and also the upcoming coronation, pleaded guilty to driving through a red light while on a mobile phone call to his wife. His Grace already has nine points on his licence for speeding and so should be banned for a minimum six months, however he has made an application for the ban to be set aside under the exceptional hardship procedure on the grounds that he needs to drive around the country to organise the coronation. He has asked for his application to be heard in camera because he doesn’t want to give away details of the coronation plans. You really couldn’t make it up, could you?

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    • Hirsute
      September 26, 2022 at 11:24 am
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      So just delay the ban for a

      So just delay the ban for a month then !

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      • IanMSpencer
        September 26, 2022 at 11:36 am
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        Just use the bloody chauffeur

        Just use the bloody chauffeur you probably already employ for the bloody Rolls.

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    • hawkinspeter
      September 26, 2022 at 11:24 am
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      They’ve given up pretending

      They’ve given up pretending that no-one is above the law

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      • chrisonabike
        September 26, 2022 at 11:50 am
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        Given up?  When did they

        Given up?  When did they start?

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    • ktache
      September 26, 2022 at 12:41 pm
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      You’d think that someone on 9

      You’d think that someone on 9 points might avoid offences that would carry another 9.

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      • Rendel Harris
        September 26, 2022 at 1:01 pm
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        ktache wrote:

        You’d think that someone on 9 points might avoid offences that would carry another 9.

        — ktache

        Indeed! Though, and I’m not quite sure how he got away with this, he appears only to have been charged with the phone driving for six points and not been charged for running a red light. I know there’s often a reluctance to charge for red light running without video if it’s marginal, so maybe they didn’t catch him on camera.

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        • AlsoSomniloquism
          September 26, 2022 at 2:33 pm
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          Police officer believed he

          Police officer believed he went through Red but couldn’t state for sure as couldn’t see the other light. 

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    • HoarseMann
      September 26, 2022 at 1:39 pm
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      Part of his exceptional

      Part of his exceptional hardship plea is his office is a whole 4 miles away from his home. Are these not the sort of short trips the government (and perhaps The King) are trying to replace with active travel in order to combat climate change?

      Also, if by his “office” he actually means Arundel Castle, then could he not work from home? Is moving into a castle such a hardship?

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      • brooksby
        September 26, 2022 at 2:18 pm
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        But if he was working from

        But if he was working from home, how could he pop into the Club for luncheon and a snifter…?

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    • Steve K
      September 26, 2022 at 3:13 pm
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      Belated apologies that I

      Belated apologies that I posted a link to this story without realising you already had!

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    • Sriracha
      September 26, 2022 at 6:30 pm
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      Beggars belief that this guy
      Beggars belief that this guy hasn’t the wherewithal to install a handsfree kit. In fact, is there even a posh motor that doesn’t have one as factory standard? What’s his excuse for using it handheld? Strongly suggests he should be pleading for umpteen previous offences to be taken into consideration.
      (I’m not touting handsfree as any the safer, only that it’s legal)

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  6. Hirsute
    September 26, 2022 at 11:30 am
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    Another death

    Another death

    Not sure about the limit on comments here, so I will not yet comment.

    The driver pleaded guilty but

    Judge Sheraton gave Hardcastle an interim disqualification from driving and he was released on unconditional bail. The case was adjourned to allow members of Ms Garratt-Quinton’s family to give victim impact statements.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-63034265

     

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    • Rendel Harris
      September 26, 2022 at 11:56 am
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      Can’t speak for road.cc or

      Can’t speak for road.cc or their lawyers but in general it’s okay to comment once a verdict has been given or a guilty plea entered, the ban on commenting on ongoing cases is to avoid the jury seeing material or opinions that might prejudice their deliberations, it’s assumed that a judge is above being swayed by the court of public opinion.

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      September 26, 2022 at 2:32 pm
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      I assume that is her ghost

      I assume that is her ghost bike. 

      Although from the pictures on the bbc, this might have been the approach used by both vehicles, with the bike lane not helping at all with the situation the cyclist is put into once on the island. 

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      • Secret_squirrel
        September 26, 2022 at 7:31 pm
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        Spin the street view 180

        Spin the street view 180 degrees and you can see the tributes ☹️

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  7. Hirsute
    September 26, 2022 at 12:29 pm
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    Bike rack fail

    Bike rack fail

    .@IKEAUK: “We’re so green we’ve provided bike parking at our Croydon store!”
    Also @IKEAUK: “We’re so unfamiliar with bikes we put the parking too close to the wall to use properly.” pic.twitter.com/AU8NdYGhCz

    — Robert Wright (@RKWinvisibleman) September 26, 2022

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdlG2MwXgAERDkk?format=jpg&name=small

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    • eburtthebike
      September 27, 2022 at 6:05 pm
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      hirsute wrote:

      Bike rack fail

      .@IKEAUK: “We’re so green we’ve provided bike parking at our Croydon store!”
      Also @IKEAUK: “We’re so unfamiliar with bikes we put the parking too close to the wall to use properly.” pic.twitter.com/AU8NdYGhCz

      — Robert Wright (@RKWinvisibleman) September 26, 2022

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdlG2MwXgAERDkk?format=jpg&name=small

      — hirsute

      I had cause to take Bristol City Council to the ombudsman about a new bridge in the harbour, Perot’s Bridge, which despite being on a council defined strategic cycle route, which they specified, planned and constructed it only for pedestrians.  I won, and the council said they would make amends by putting in lots of extra cycle racks around the harbour; most of them were like that, too close to the railings.

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  8. Steve K
    September 26, 2022 at 1:23 pm
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    “I need to be able to drive

    “I need to be able to drive to organise the coronation” is definitely a new one https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/duke-norfolk-peer-organised-queens-funeral-driving-charge-london-b1028088.html

    On a serious note, I would have thought that organising an event that big would involve lots of phone calls, and as he clearly can’t be trusted to ignore them whilst driving, it seems more reason to ban him.

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    • hawkinspeter
      September 26, 2022 at 1:26 pm
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      Steve K wrote:

      “I need to be able to drive to organise the coronation” is definitely a new one https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/duke-norfolk-peer-organised-queens-funeral-driving-charge-london-b1028088.html

      On a serious note, I would have thought that organising an event that big would involve lots of phone calls, and as he clearly can’t be trusted to ignore them whilst driving, it seems more reason to ban him.

      — Steve K

      It’s quite revolting that organising a coronation is considered more important than people’s lives.

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        September 26, 2022 at 2:20 pm
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        And saving the planet from

        And saving the planet from global warming, don’t forget that snippet. 

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    • chrisonabike
      September 26, 2022 at 1:26 pm
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      “The son (of the late queen)

      “The son (of the late queen) was in my eyes”.

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    • Rendel Harris
      September 26, 2022 at 1:30 pm
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      It did amuse me thinking of a

      It did amuse me thinking of a magistrate being told that someone should be excused a ban because they were organising the king’s coronation: “Oh not that old chestnut again, if I had a quid for every time someone’s tried that on…”

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        September 26, 2022 at 2:21 pm
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        I was actually surprised the

        I was actually surprised the Magistrate took no notice. Most of them want to be further up in the world. 

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        • Hirsute
          September 26, 2022 at 2:30 pm
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          Wondered if this was you from

          Wondered if this was you from last night !

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          • AlsoSomniloquism
            September 26, 2022 at 2:42 pm
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            Nah, not a Steve, although I

            Nah, not a Steve, although I have, (as well as plenty of others I’m sure) been in similar situations even after my knock. 

            Did you see the crash before he greyed it out? That was more my neck of the woods (well Birmingham). 

        • Steve K
          September 26, 2022 at 2:38 pm
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          AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

          I was actually surprised the Magistrate took no notice. Most of them want to be further up in the world. 

          — AlsoSomniloquism

          Ah, the story has been updated since I posted the link.  Yes, I’m (very pleasantly) surprised too.

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    • IanMK
      September 26, 2022 at 3:16 pm
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      If you need further evidence

      If you need further evidence that the monarchy is toxic to both democracy and meritocracy then this is it.

      EDIT: I note that the story has been updated and he hasn’t gotten away with it, I still think that the monarchy is toxic.

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      • brooksby
        September 26, 2022 at 4:02 pm
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        Six month ban, according to

        Six month ban, according to the Grauniad.

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        • IanMK
          September 26, 2022 at 6:18 pm
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          Still seems lenient. Driving
          Still seems lenient. Driving through a red light whilst using his mobile.
          For drivers that need greater understanding on what entitled looks like just show them a photo of this pompous prick.

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  9. ktache
    September 26, 2022 at 3:15 pm
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    Shame about the city of

    Shame about the city of London’s 15mph speed limit. 

    Of course with the DfT reasoning any minister looking to stoke the anti cycling culture war by dangling the imposition of speed limits being enforced on cyclists will find it that little more difficult.

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      September 26, 2022 at 3:30 pm
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      Although not having 5mph

      Although not having 5mph increments on speedo’s does make it the correct call. I’m surprised that we still use mechanical speedometers. I suspect it is down to reliability but remember the digital one in Knight Rider (and some high end motors) back in the 80’s.

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      • ktache
        September 26, 2022 at 3:52 pm
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        I suppose they could start

        I suppose they could start enforcement of the 20mph limit at a very strict 21mph.

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        • nosferatu1001
          September 26, 2022 at 7:37 pm
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          Starts at 24 right now, as it

          Starts at 24 right now, as it’s a 10%+2mph guidance.  You CAN enforce at 21 but the devices tend to have a rated accuracy of 1mph and asss to that would be the public interest in enforcing so close to the limit.  Both would mean court challenges and we don’t have the court time for that. 

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      • Awavey
        September 26, 2022 at 7:22 pm
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        my MINI has had a digital

        my MINI has had a digital speedo for the past 20 years, I dont even look at the retro analogue mechanical thing thats their for show mostly. ( it has two speedo’s ok before you think Im being crazily reckless to ignore my speedometer)

        Id accept not all cars are like that, but every car Ive ever driven with cruise control you never set it in 5mph increments.

        and also why is 5mph or 10mph kind of like the default ultra low speed sign option then ?

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        • AlsoSomniloquism
          September 26, 2022 at 11:12 pm
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          I’ve only seen the 5mph signs

          I’ve only seen the 5mph signs on private land which is probably never legally enforced by Police and courts. 

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  10. stonojnr
    September 26, 2022 at 5:40 pm
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    What does the pubs cycle
    What does the pubs cycle storage look like though ? A local brewery near me claiming to be cycle friendly, posted a picture of a set of the wheel bending cycle racks. And the only pub I knew who had sheffield stands, moved them to make an extra car parking space.

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  11. Awavey
    September 26, 2022 at 7:17 pm
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    Lizzie and Philip Deignan

    Lizzie and Philip Deignan announced the birth of their baby boy Shea over the weekend.

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  12. HarrogateSpa
    September 26, 2022 at 7:36 pm
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    Construction of Harrogate’s

    Construction of Harrogate’s ATF2 cycle schemes was supposed to be complete by 31st March 2022.

    The new timetable of having some revised designs “in the New Year” is fantasy. North Yorkshire County Council just keep shunting the work back 3-4 months at a time.

    What does “in the New Year” even mean, except ‘not this year’?

    Against stiff competition, N Yorks must be the worst council for active travel in the country.

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  13. Adam Sutton
    September 26, 2022 at 8:04 pm
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    The cycle lanes through
    The cycle lanes through Chiswick is good, but still lacks some joined up thinking at junctions. Lights went green to the cycle lane and I turned left only to find myself stuck in the highroad in contention with a pedestrian crossing.

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Abus Targon Mips
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Continental Dubnital 50mm gravel tyre
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Avinox’s MG Concept brings CVT-style gears to an e-MTB motor
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Latest Comments

mctrials23 2 minutes ago

Drivers regularly pull out in front of me and cause me to slam on the brakes or avoid them. Very often they have seen me and just assume I'm not going very fast or they assume I will slow down/stop (which I do). Too many drivers don't look for cyclists, hate giving way to them or expect the cyclist to be moving slowly and just pull out.

in: BMW driver accused of “forgetting what the words ‘give way’ meant” after colliding with cyclist at junction; Spiderman supports the Tour de France + more on the live blog
mctrials23 25 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris By the time someone is looking at prison time its too late. As has been proven time and time again, the severity of punishment is a poor deterrent to bad behaviour if people don't think its going to happen to them or they don't think they will be caught. Now I do think that there should be far more severe and immediate punishments for bad driving when drivers are caught but this would need to be coupled with a massive push to actually act on information/proof of bad driving. As anyone that submits footage to the police knows, its a crapshoot and certain police forces are anti-cyclist. This would try to essentially put people off misbehaving whilst driving before they cause an accident rather than getting the tired old excuse of "it was a single dangerous incident, they definitely don't do this all the time and their luck finally ran out". Perhaps it should go even further and if you have a history of speeding and you hurt someone speeding, that is looked upon in a very dim light.

in: Nine years in jail for drug driver 16 times over limit who killed oncoming cyclist; Suspended sentence for killing cyclist whilst attempting 3-point turn; Driving ban for 84-year old for injuring cyclist but no retest required: road.cc sentencing round-up
KiwiMike 36 minutes ago

Can we talk about “Washing up liquid contains a lot of salt – not a great idea to use a corrosive substance on a bicycle”? This is an urban myth. I have washed all of our many bikes using Fairy liquid or Ecover for decades. I’ve never found any evidence of corrosion, paint, laquer or decal wear, or any sign of anything. I regularly service forks and bearings, swapping a lot of gear, and everything has always been fine. Here’s far too much info below - long story short, Fairy liquid in 5L of hot water has a borderline-homeopathic amount of salt, it’s fine to use on a bike. ============ The honest answer is that neither Fairy nor Ecover publicly disclose the actual sodium chloride concentration in the consumer products I could find. The safety data sheets list hazardous ingredients above reporting thresholds, but sodium chloride is not reported for either product. However, we can put some realistic bounds on it. Fairy Original The SDS lists: Sodium laureth sulfate: 20-30%
 Lauramine oxide: 5-10%
 Alcohol: 1-5%
 No sodium chloride is declared. 15 In detergent formulations, sodium chloride is commonly used as a viscosity modifier (thickener) and is typically present at around 0.5-3%, sometimes lower. The absence of declaration suggests it is either not present or present at a low concentration that does not require reporting. This range is an informed formulation estimate, not a value stated by Fairy. Ecover The Ecover ingredient information lists: Sodium lauryl sulfate
 Lauryl glucoside
 Cocamidopropyl betaine
 Alcohol
 Lactic acid
 Sodium octyl sulphate
 Again, no sodium chloride is listed. Ecover's formulations tend to rely more heavily on plant-derived surfactants and may use little or no salt for thickening, but I could not find a published concentration. 63 What does this mean for bike washing? Let's assume a worst-case 3% salt content in Fairy. If you add: 10 mL Fairy to a 5-litre bucket
 Then salt introduced would be approximately: 10 mL × 3% ≈ 0.3 g salt
 Distributed through 5 L water
 ≈ 60 mg/L salt
 For comparison: Typical seawater: ~35,000 mg/L
 Lightly salted winter road spray: often hundreds to thousands of mg/L
 The wash bucket above: ~60 mg/L
 So even under a pessimistic assumption, the salt concentration is hundreds to thousands of times lower than the salt exposure your bike gets from winter roads. From a corrosion perspective, the quantity of salt introduced by washing-up liquid is essentially negligible compared with: Riding on salted roads
 Coastal spray
 Leaving winter grime on the bike
 Therefore my practical conclusion remains: ✅ Fairy or Ecover in a wash bucket is extremely unlikely to contribute any measurable corrosion risk. ✅ The important thing is rinsing and drying afterwards. ✅ Winter road salt is the real enemy, not washing-up liquid.

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mitsky 37 minutes ago

Another example of a driver's actions that would have been a straight fail in a driving test but is barely likely to lead to a disqualification... I'm wondering if having a driving licence is like a "Get out of jail free" card...

in: BMW driver accused of “forgetting what the words ‘give way’ meant” after colliding with cyclist at junction; Spiderman supports the Tour de France + more on the live blog
Sheen wheels 42 minutes ago

Yes indeed. I have a version of the R8100 and you definitively need ceramic for the socket.

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mctrials23 50 minutes ago

@perce I'm not sure I agree with that. I think thats just confirming that he is take fully responsibility and recognises that the cyclist could have done nothing to mitigate it.

in: Nine years in jail for drug driver 16 times over limit who killed oncoming cyclist; Suspended sentence for killing cyclist whilst attempting 3-point turn; Driving ban for 84-year old for injuring cyclist but no retest required: road.cc sentencing round-up
Paul J 2 hours ago

If we don't fight it now, we'll all end up forced to wear baggy shorts!

in: Cannondale Factory Racing pulls the plug, marking the end of a glorious era
kinderje 3 hours ago

@Rendel Harris Agree, I am baffled that the 84 year old who is now banned from driving for year can then start driving again without a retest. We should be re-tested regularly.

in: Nine years in jail for drug driver 16 times over limit who killed oncoming cyclist; Suspended sentence for killing cyclist whilst attempting 3-point turn; Driving ban for 84-year old for injuring cyclist but no retest required: road.cc sentencing round-up
Rendel Harris 4 hours ago

@mitsky Just checking the figures and apparently the 2026 average cost is £58,000 per year per prisoner; worth noting that is only the direct cost, you then have to factor in ten years of lost tax income from the prisoner, ten years that the prisoner is making no contribution to society as a worker or as a consumer, plus the fact that if they were the primary breadwinner very likely the costs will include benefits for their family as well. None of which should be a reason for keeping violent recidivists out of prison of course, nor drug/drink drivers who kill, but it is a factor worth considering for lower-level offences.

in: Nine years in jail for drug driver 16 times over limit who killed oncoming cyclist; Suspended sentence for killing cyclist whilst attempting 3-point turn; Driving ban for 84-year old for injuring cyclist but no retest required: road.cc sentencing round-up
Rendel Harris 4 hours ago

@Surreyrider I ride in Surrey a fair bit and absolutely many do look like that but the point is they all *think* they're driving perfectly reasonably (as one discovers when remonstrating with someone who's skimmed one by 30cm, "I gave you masses of room") so deterrent penalties have little effect. That's why we need to strike at the root cause and actually train drivers properly and test them stringently (and more than once over the course of a potential 70+ years of driving, it's absolutely absurd that competence and knowledge in what for most people is the activity in their life that will run the biggest risk of killing people you never have to have your qualifications renewed).

in: Nine years in jail for drug driver 16 times over limit who killed oncoming cyclist; Suspended sentence for killing cyclist whilst attempting 3-point turn; Driving ban for 84-year old for injuring cyclist but no retest required: road.cc sentencing round-up

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