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Are we ready to ditch our cars? BBC Today programme asks... (but little mention of cycling); Tom Pidcock gets a telling off from fans for launching himself off moving boat; Old but gold — bike lane-blocking edition + more on the live blog

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23 August 2023, 11:19
Are we ready to ditch our cars? BBC Today programme asks... (but little mention of cycling)
A40 in Acton (copyright Simon MacMichael)

BBC radio's Today Debate yesterday centred on car ownership, the ban on sales of new petrol and diesel cars from 2030, electric cars, reducing emissions, implications for car ownership, and more...

On the panel was former Top Gear host (and now a member of the cycling community) James May, Conservative MP for Lincoln Karl McCartney, professor Julia King chair of the Carbon Trust, former Aston Martin CEO Andy Palmer (fresh from his recent live blog appearance), and Graeme Potts of Eden Motors.

Host Mishal Husain began the debate by stating "the shift demanded by climate and clean air objectives is not however all about drivers swapping to electric cars. It is also about the need for us to drive less or, perhaps, not at all in the future — less car ownership, less private vehicle traffic, leading to better air and lower emissions".

However, the following 25 minutes seemed to largely bypass talk of alternatives to driving, instead discussing electric cars' range, growth of the charging point network, the 2030 target, the price of electric cars, cost of electric car batteries, before Husain asked May about the need to walk and cycle more...

May replied: "I do cycle a lot, I'm not just saying that to be sanctimonious, I've actually noticed recently that even Google Maps has recognised that at certain times of day it's quicker to go across London on a bicycle if you're doing the sort of journey I do, between four and eight miles.

"The car is, like everything else in society, under more scrutiny than it has ever been — how it's used, how it's made, how it's disposed of, where it's left, what speeds it does. I think that's a good thing because questioning stuff is great. And I am starting to think that in some places cars aren't very appropriate."

In reply to an earlier question, MP McCartney had said: "The prime minister and those around him see that we need to be realistic, when you get outside of London and you get further north, over 80 per cent of people use a car to get to work. That's a phenomenal amount, there's not going to be any replacement of those figures."

Graeme Potts from Eden Motors also added: "Motorists are showing over and over again that they are not ready for this alternative because it is unaffordable. They have already demonstrated over many many years, and I have been in this industry for 42 years, that modal shift as it's called is not an option for many customers. Karl [McCartney] makes a very very good point, the average person in Britain travels 18 miles to work, but the travel to work requirement for independent personal transport is as nothing compared with the lifestyle demands mum and dad as taxi drivers, or us going to our lifestyle or leisure activities.

"But if investment in public transport was different you could imagine the landscape where that starts to feel different?" host Husain suggested.

Potts' reply: "As a proportion of travel to work journeys [rail travel] is actually still very low. I don't want to be overly political, but the unreliability of the public sector means there is less likelihood of modal shift, in my view."

Here's the link to the full episode if you wish to listen, mainly to save me transcribing any more of the 45-minute-long segment...

23 August 2023, 16:10
Near Miss of the Day 872: Close passing van driver banned for 12 months and ordered to pay over £700 in costs after narrowly missing cyclist and oncoming motorist
23 August 2023, 15:56
Ben Wiggins joins Hagens Berman Axeon
Ben Wiggins (Pauline Ballet/SWpix.com)

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Ben Wiggins, son of Bradley, will join Hagens Berman Axeon for 2024, fresh off his silver medal in the junior men's time trial at the World Championships in Stirling.

"Joining HBA was a no-brainer for me," he said about the team run by Axel Merckx that counts João Almeida, Mikkel Bjerg, Jasper Philipsen, Eddie Dunbar, Jhonatan Narváez, Neilson Powless, Tao Geoghegan Hart and Ruben Guerreiro among its alumni.

"I'd been talking to Axel for a while and I've always admired the team, knowing the history of the team, and how many guys have gone to the next level from the team. I knew straight away that it was the right place for me to develop and try to get to the World Tour. Also the opportunity to work with Axel who grew up in a very similar situation to me with our dads doing great things in the sport, I can't think of anyone better to get advice and guidance from. I can't wait to get started."

23 August 2023, 16:09
Here's why I won't be upgrading to the Specialized Tarmac SL8
23 August 2023, 15:05
Thibaut Pinot crashes out of final pro race in France
23 August 2023, 15:36
British Cycling appoints task force to "support revival" of domestic racing scene
23 August 2023, 14:32
Uh oh! Wout van Aert just stole your KOM
Van Aert Strava

 

23 August 2023, 13:31
We can dream...
23 August 2023, 13:12
"We're also seeing an overall increase in the numbers of people cycling, so all in all, this is a good thing": London's deputy mayor welcomes cycle hire scheme competition
Hire bikes - Santander Cycles © Simon MacMichael.jpg

Sadiq Khan's deputy mayor for transport Seb Dance has reacted to the news that the number of journeys made using London's Santander Cycles hire scheme has dropped to its lowest level for 10 years, with bad weather and soaring costs blamed.

Speaking to the Evening Standard, Dance said it wasn't all bad news however, and pointed to the growth of rival services, such as Lime and HumanForest bikes, suggesting that overall cycling levels matter more than the success of one scheme.

"Obviously I want to see many more people use [TfL] Cycle Hire, it's a fantastic scheme. It’s enormously boosted active travel rates across the city," he said. "But what we're also seeing is a number of competitors on the market.

"Ordinarily, you might think that I'd be slightly concerned about that, but what we're also seeing is an overall increase in the numbers of people cycling. So all in all, this is a good thing. It's contributing towards our 80 per cent [of all journeys made in London] target for active and public transport by 2041 — this the mayor's objective, which he set out in 2018 and which we're working every day towards.

"Although, yes obviously I would love more and more people to use the [TfL] cycle hire scheme, the fact that there are competitors out there providing an alternative is actually a good thing."

23 August 2023, 12:19
"Eyesore" cycling junction works leaving homes and cars "permanently covered in dirt and dust", claim residents
23 August 2023, 10:32
Old but gold

Tommy tells us this was back in 2020 in Balham, perfectly within the lines... 

23 August 2023, 10:26
What does a pro cyclist do post-retirement? Ride even further than they did as a pro, of course...

A week late on this one, but Phil Gil shared the pic of the Strava activity on his Twitter, hence us spotting it today...

 

Riding as close as possible to the border of Belgium's Liège province, as you do. 

"The course contained some passages in gravel to be as close as possible to the borders, so we alternated the bikes," Gilbert explained. "In the end, a little over 200 km in gravel and the rest on road bikes, with relays of maximum 10 minutes."

23 August 2023, 09:54
"LTNs is just a shiny new name for a very long-established idea": Rat-running fears for low-traffic neighbourhood review
Exeter LTN bollards (picture credit Devon County Council)

Peter Walker of the Guardian has penned a piece highlighting the concerns that quiet residential streets and housing estates risk being opened up as rat runs for drivers under the government's review of low-traffic neighbourhoods (LTNs).

The Department for Transport (DfT) is yet to say who will carry out the review, or when it will happen, but it was touted as part of Rishi Sunak's attack on "anti-motorist" policies.

> Transport Secretary calls for LTN review, blames "controversial" schemes for setting "people against each other" 

But, Walker notes, the working definition for the review is any scheme where through-motor traffic is prevented by cameras or physical barriers, crucially, with no date of installation relevant, meaning some so-called 'LTNs' that have been in place for decades may also be up for being scrapped too.

Railton LTN (picture credit TfL)

"LTNs is just a shiny new name for a very long-established idea," Simon Munk, the head of campaigns for London Cycling Campaign said. "We've seen modal filtering since the advent of the motorcar. Pretty much every housing estate since the war was built on the principle of not allowing through traffic. Is there a cut-off date for any of this?

> "Huge cost": Repair bill tops £850,000 for councils fixing vandalised low-traffic neighbourhoods

"It's a culture war wedge issue, fomented by politicians who seemingly want to distract attention from bigger woes."

Tim Burns from Sustrans also asked for the government to show "greater understanding" that schemes have been around for years, many without contention, and have become an accepted part of communities.

23 August 2023, 09:01
Wheelie good puncture solution
23 August 2023, 08:26
Wout van Aert: Coming to a town, city or A-road near you soon

People of Altrincham, Manchester, Wrexham, Goole, Beverley, Sherwood Forest, Newark-on-Trent, Felixstowe, Southend-on-Sea, Harlow, Tewkesbury, Gloucester, Margam Country Park and Caerphilly (and every location that made the route between!)... you're in luck.

23 August 2023, 07:56
Tom Pidcock gets a telling off from fans for launching himself off moving boat — wait until they hear about his day job...

First off, who can blame Tom Pidcock for having some downtime after a year packed full of Classics, mountain biking, Tour de France prep, riding said Tour de France, and a XCO mountain bike world championship. 

But, such is life as an international superstar, uploading footage of your holiday activity to Instagram, including... *checks notes*... launching yourself off a boat moving at high speeds, is always going to leave you open to the party-pooping thoughts and warnings of your half a million followers. Click through to the vid second here...

 And while we enjoyed the person on Twitter who replied to a video of the footage saying it "looks safer than what he's doing for INEOS", a post complete with the replay of THAT Galibier descent at last year's Tour, it's hard to ignore the legions of people warning against a repeat of the boat-bombing incident...

"That's really dumb. Don't do that again"

"Your boss must s*** his pants when he sees what you get up too"

We also enjoyed the commenter who said it was an excellent way to get whiplash... "speaking from personal experience"... do as I say, not as I do. Join the club, Tom P... who hasn't done questionably dangerous things as a 24-year-old? At least nobody's asking why he wasn't wearing a (Red Bull-sponsored) helmet...

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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brooksby replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Hirsute wrote:

"was on the medication Tacrolimus – the side effects of which can sometimes impair vision." Maybe driving is not a good idea then. How could it be framed as mitigation? [Edit - beaten by brooksby]

yes

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Dan Alexander replied to Laurian | 1 year ago
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Hi, thanks, yes we'll have something on it shortly

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Cugel replied to Legin | 1 year ago
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Legin wrote:

Re Pidcock; we've all done some foolish things when we were young.

Your comment re "Party pooping" clearly demonstrates that, like Tom, you probably have only experienced boats while on your holidays. Anyone who is around boats as their job or main hobby, will know that jumping in like that is an incredibly stupid thing to do and no life jacket/buoyancy aid too.

If you and Tom have been brought up with boats and think this is okay, you are a pair of ****ing idiots.

Piddock by name and a piddock by nature. But he be cyclosleb so must be goody and highly copyable by young wags everywhere. You're only young once - and then you die (or seem likely to if you piddock).

Is it all part of a PR splash?

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Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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This chap seems to be doing good work in Cambridge, over 500 bikes recovered:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-66585713

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Hirsute replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Vigilante !!
Grass
Snitch

It's an industry now and that's wrong.

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Rendel Harris replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Shocking isn't it, people doing good on an industrial scale. Down with this sort of thing. Careful now.

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Patrick9-32 replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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NORMAL hard working people are out here stealing lefty loonies' commie bicycles and he has the termacity to think its his place to stop them?????? 

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wtjs replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Vigilante !!
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Quite correct. This man is a menace to society, as is Rendel for publicising his anti-social self-publicising antics, and is bringing more cycling terrorists back onto the road and encouraging the police to terrorise instead harmless fun-loving motorists like these charging around a small market town shouting out of the window, sounding the horn, close-passing a cyclist while the driver holds up a mobile phone displaying a woman's bare breasts- although I didn't discern the image subject at the time.

Don't worry drivers! I can assure you that Lancashire Constabulary is fighting back against all this wokery and will not respond or take any action at all against the driver of MJ55 HRO. The driver and passenger were clearly drugged up

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