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Cavendish ‘spotted’ on Wilier Astana bike (credit – Kyosuke Takei)
Cavendish 'spotted' on Wilier Astana bike (credit - Kyosuke Takei) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Is that Cav on a Wilier? British champion ‘spotted’ in Spain riding Astana-liveried bike; Motorist says contraflow cycleway “won’t work in real world” – because cars might be scratched; Terry Hall’s love for folding bikes; New kits + more on the live blog

The festivities continue on the live blog this week, as Ryan Mallon returns for your Tuesday helping of cycling news and views
  • by Ryan Mallon
Tue, Dec 20, 2022 09:24
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SUMMARY

  • More transfer rumours (not really)
  • “When the council submits plans for a bike lane”
  • “It’s like origami”: Terry Hall’s love for folding bikes
  • “It’s not about just getting around quickly. It’s about seeing the world”
  • Yet more Cav gossip as potential lead-out man posts Strava ride with Astana pros
  • Davide Rebellin post-mortem confirms that Italian’s death was caused by impact with lorry
  • Less WorldTour, more orange and teal for Lotto-Dstny
  • Jumbo-Visma reveal new old kit
  • Teenage unicyclist rides entire US east coast on 3,000km bike path to highlight need for safe cycling infrastructure
  • “I’ve seen more convincing pictures of Bigfoot”: Internet reacts with cynicism to Cavendish sighting
  • Looks like someone was told to use up all the white paint by the end of the year…
  • Reader reaction: A late entry for the NIMBY of the Year award and Cav’s replica Astana kit
  • “I don’t see many cyclists in the area so there isn’t a need for a cycle lane”: ‘But my car’ motorist says contraflow cycleway “won’t work in real world” – because cars might be scratched
  • Is that Cav on a Wilier? British champion ‘spotted’ in Spain riding Astana-liveried bike
Cavendish ‘spotted’ on Wilier Astana bike (credit – Kyosuke Takei)
Cavendish 'spotted' on Wilier Astana bike (credit - Kyosuke Takei) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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20 December 2022, 09:24

More transfer rumours (not really)

Intermarché strikes again:

Lionel Messi: “My legacy in football is complete. I have decided to join Intermarché-Wanty-Gobert Matériaux”#Parody #FIFAWorldCup pic.twitter.com/FMHjIR1eRR

— Intermarché-Wanty-Gobert (@IntermarcheWG) December 18, 2022

20 December 2022, 09:24

“When the council submits plans for a bike lane”

when the council submits plans for a bike lane pic.twitter.com/O3GrIhp1RZ

— Edward Lamb (@edwardlamb) December 19, 2022

20 December 2022, 09:24

“It’s like origami”: Terry Hall’s love for folding bikes

#220 RIP beloved Terry Hall
i hid your records in my sock drawer as a kid, so they wouldn’t get smashed up..
in 2019 we spoke about the joy of small things.. a folding bicycle you saw in our BBC office, which you considered a work of elegant genius..

— maryanne hobbs (@maryannehobbs) December 20, 2022

As the music world remembers Terry Hall, The Specials’ frontman who died at the weekend after a brief illness, we thought we’d pay tribute to the 2 Tone pioneer by sharing a heart-warming story he told BBC Radio 6 Music presenter Mary Anne Hobbs about overcoming depression and finding joy in even the simplest things in life – like a folding bike.

“I didn’t realise I was spending the first 50 years of my life in this bubble called depression,” the ska icon said during the 2019 interview.

“And people told me about it, but I had no idea what I was doing. Then ten years ago, I had to get attention because of an incident, and I found a doctor. And she’s got me out of this bubble, and said, ‘you’ve got an illness’, but we can deal with it.

“For the last, at least, five years, have been unbelievably brilliant. And appreciating things on a different level, which I never thought I would.

“Like really simple things – on the way in here I saw a folding bike. And that has made my day, that you can fold a bike to that size. It’s like origami.

“But if I can get one thing like that every day, then I’m so happy… People always say to me, ‘you’ve got a number one record, you were handed this, why didn’t you smile?’

“And I don’t know why I didn’t smile. But that folding bike made me smile.”

20 December 2022, 09:24

“It’s not about just getting around quickly. It’s about seeing the world”

As you can tell from this rather cool video, cyclist Boru McCullagh is now almost a third of the way through his 34,000km bikepacking trip around the world, which he hopes will help raise money and awareness for the mental health charity Mind.

You can donate to Mind through Boru’s JustGiving page.

20 December 2022, 09:24

Yet more Cav gossip as potential lead-out man posts Strava ride with Astana pros

Until that Cav v Vino rap battle video arrives – or, as someone suggested on Twitter, a ballroom dance-off, befitting the sprinter’s adolescent penchant for a rumba – there’s still plenty of tantalising titbits to keep us entertained.

Former DSM sprinter and 2022 Tour of Britain stage winner Cees Bol, who was rumoured to be lining up alongside Cavendish at the ill-fated B&B Hôtels squad, added some Strava fuel to the fire last night by uploading his 113km training ride around Calpe (where Astana are currently based, cough, cough), which he appears to have undertaken as part of a group of Astana riders (even bigger cough).

via @opaisdociclismo pic.twitter.com/GXCIzWb2m5

— Marcelo Vanderlinde (@marcelo23779) December 19, 2022

According to VeloNews, sources have confirmed that both Cavendish and Bol joined the Astana pre-season training camp yesterday, but the team continues to remain silent on the matter.

As Tom Petty said, the waiting is the hardest part…

20 December 2022, 09:24

Davide Rebellin post-mortem confirms that Italian’s death was caused by impact with lorry

Davide Rebellin’s funeral will take place on Friday morning after a post-mortem confirmed that the Italian’s death was caused by the impact with a lorry, the driver of which allegedly stopped immediately after the collision, only to then drive off, fleeing back to Germany.

Rebellin, who had just recently retired from professional cycling after 30 years in the peloton, died on 30 November, aged 51, after he was struck while out training by a lorry driver on a roundabout near his hometown of Lonigo, northern Italy.

> Lorry driver who killed Davide Rebellin reportedly got out of cab, looked at dead cyclist, then drove off

According to La Gazzetta dello Sport, no underlying medical conditions were discovered during the post-mortem which could have contributed to the fatal collision.

In January, Italian police – who are considering issuing a European arrest warrant for the German lorry driver – will carry out a dynamic reconstruction of the incident, as well as surveying the damage to Rebellin’s bike and using photographic and video evidence supplied by witnesses and local CCTV cameras, to fully understand what happened at the time of the collision.

Rebellin’s funeral will be held at 10am on Friday at Lonigo’s cathedral. A chapel of rest is expected to open on Thursday for those wishing to pay their respects to the Italian classics star.

20 December 2022, 09:24

Less WorldTour, more orange and teal for Lotto-Dstny

A closer look at our 2⃣0⃣2⃣3⃣ team kit! 🔍 pic.twitter.com/Ygu2rFiyT2

— Lotto Soudal (@Lotto_Soudal) December 20, 2022

After being relegated from the WorldTour and dropped by co-title sponsor Soudal in favour of Belgian rivals Quick-Step (it’s like Omega Pharma all over again), one of the peloton’s longest-standing squads is heading into 2023 with a refreshed outlook and a lot more blue in their kit.

That delightful shade of teal comes courtesy of Belgian cloud communications provider (and Only Connect answer) Dstny, while Caleb Ewan, Thomas de Gendt and Arnaud de Lie will also be sporting a flashy orange strip, giving the kit some ‘Bahrain-Victorious (or 2023 Ineos) swimming in the sea’ vibes.

I quite like it. Pity we won’t see it at the Giro though, as Lotto say they’re giving the Italian grand tour a miss next year in order to avoid stretching their youthful squad.

20 December 2022, 09:24

Jumbo-Visma reveal new old kit

Over the border into the Netherlands now, where Jumbo-Visma have become the last squad to unveil their new kit for 2023:

 
 
 
 
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At least, I think it’s their new kit – could just be a leftover from this year…

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Team Jumbo-Visma cycling (@jumbovisma_road)

Apparently, the coloured border around the jersey’s black midsection – look closely, you’ll see it – is there to mark the 38-year-old Dutch squad’s tenth anniversary (bear with me), with blue representing the rather classy sponsor-less Blanco kit of 2013, while the green signifies the Belkin era, and so on.

Unfortunately, by the looks of things, there was no room for that famous Rabobank orange. I’m not sure why…

20 December 2022, 09:24

Teenage unicyclist rides entire US east coast on 3,000km bike path to highlight need for safe cycling infrastructure

 
 
 
 
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There’s ultra-cycling, then there’s ultra-cycling… on a unicycle.

19-year-old Avery Seuter is showing Mark Beaumont and the rest how it’s done, by riding a unicycle from his hometown of Wells, Maine, the most north-easterly of all the United States, to Key West, Florida (the country’s south-eastern-most tip), in a bid to highlight the need for safe cycling infrastructure and to raise funds for the East Coast Greenway, a 3,000km pedestrian and cycle path connecting the two states.

“I’ve been commuting by unicycle to work and school in my hometown and I noticed that the infrastructure has a bit of a deficit for people walking and cycling,” he told the Guardian from South Carolina, 1,600 miles and over three months into his epic trip.

“It’s not super accessible to people outside of a car so I was curious [about] what kinds of infrastructure were out there.

“Right now our bike lanes… are pretty typical of what you see in the US. They’re right on the road and they might be painted in but there’s no separation between cars and cyclists and pedestrians. So, it’s fairly unsafe compared to having a separated trail.

“By going out and seeing what kinds of infrastructure have been implemented throughout the country, it would help me to better advocate when I go back to my town.”

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Avery Seuter (@avery_seuter)

Seuter, who covers 20 to 30 miles a day over six hours on his unicycle, expects to arrive in Key West in February, though admits the trip’s early days were a struggle.

“I wasn’t really prepared to start doing so many miles every day, so the first couple days – until I got some muscles built out – was kind of a struggle,” the 19-year-old said.

“It’s consistent because the wheel doesn’t have any gears, so you have to constantly pedal… but at this point it’s sort of the same each day so there’s not a ton of extra exertion that might make me sore and I’m not going superfast. It’s not terrible.”

 
 
 
 
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Fair play to you, Avery.

Now, I reckon Jeremy Vine riding the Transcontinental on his penny-farthing would help further the cause of cycling infra in the UK and Europe. Come on Jez, you know you want to…

20 December 2022, 09:24

“I’ve seen more convincing pictures of Bigfoot”: Internet reacts with cynicism to Cavendish sighting

No. Cav never rides without a sprint train.

— Savas (@alparsla) December 20, 2022

Grainy videos and photos, speculative reports of tyre tracks tracks near Benidorm, unconfirmed sightings in Calpe, whispered rumours on Twitter…

It’s safe to say that the ‘where is Cav?’ gossip has reached fever pitch today (it’s Christmas, there’s not much else on I suppose).

However, this morning’s latest shred of ‘evidence’ that the British champion is in Calpe, putting pen to paper on a deal with everyone’s favourite Kazakh WorldTour team, Astana – that will almost certainly guarantee his place at next year’s Tour de France – has been greeted with more than a touch of cynicism on Twitter:

Can confirm it is someone on a bike

— Neill Young (@mrneilly) December 20, 2022

That’s clearly a Spanish national champs jersey isn’t it?!

— Luke (@Luke_ALAW) December 20, 2022

Not sure anything about that picture can be described as clearly

— Rob McCall (@RobMcCall1) December 20, 2022

I’ve seen more convincing pictures of Bigfoot

— Scott rance (@scottrance100) December 20, 2022

So, what will we get to see first this week? Sasquatch or Cav in an Astana jersey?

20 December 2022, 09:24

Looks like someone was told to use up all the white paint by the end of the year…

Just when you thought Salford’s tragic roundabout for cyclists couldn’t get any more ridiculous, the city’s Labour-run council – fresh from defending the new, some might say ‘unnecessary’, piece of active travel infra – decided that what the whole thing actually needed was even more road markings:

NO ENTRY 😂 pic.twitter.com/yCk0mDuUNt

— Harry Gray (@HarryHamishGray) December 20, 2022

Well thank goodness they have that to prevent all the terrible accidents there would be without it.

— Name cannot be blank (parody) 🦒 (@AracerRacer) December 20, 2022

A mess.

— Gazza Biker (@gazzabiker) December 20, 2022

20 December 2022, 09:24

Reader reaction: A late entry for the NIMBY of the Year award and Cav’s replica Astana kit

A bit of reaction to end the live blog this evening (my last blog of 2022, as well, so let’s go out in style)…

eburtthebike reckons Bournemouth resident Mark Elkins – who dismissed the possibility of a contraflow cycle system near his home with the classic line, “I understand it has worked in other areas, but it won’t work here” – is deserving of a late entry for 2022’s NIMBY of the Year award.

“Straight into the top three,” says the road.cc reader.

“I think the Daily Echo chose the wrong photo of Mark Elkins – I prefer this file photo,” writes OnYerBike.

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Classic.

They continued:

He seems to have completely misunderstood what the council plan. Permitting contraflow cycling means putting up a few signs – no paint, no lanes, no change to the road layout. Just ‘Except cyclists’ under the No Entry and a few contraflow signs on lampposts.

He is right that there is unlikely to be much room for a bike and a car to pass in some places, but that’s no different than many other similar roads. In practice, it’s not an issue (and no, there’s nothing about the ‘reality’ of those particular roads that make them different). It’s a rare occurrence anyway (given low flows of both) but when it does happen the road users simple manage to negotiate past, even if it means one pulling right over to let the other past.

As for ‘When they are on the road, nobody will be able to overtake them and it will lead to a farcical situation’ I’m not quite sure what he means. If he’s talking about cyclists travelling with the flow of traffic, I agree those roads are not wide enough to permit safe overtaking. The motorist will simply have to wait behind until they reach the end of the road (Google Maps estimates a typical cyclist will take ~1 minute to travel the 0.2 mile length of South Road), which is hardly “farcical”. And it’s also already permitted so the new plans don’t change that.

Unless of course he is simply worried that the new plans will encourage more cycling and therefore increase the chance of being mildly inconvenienced…

I would also point out that the contraflow system might actually mean you are less likely to be ‘stuck’ behind a cyclist – if you encounter a cyclist coming the other way, as per the above, you negotiate past each other and then both carry on your merry way.

Others had questions about how the new contraflow system would work in practice.

“Whilst his initial reasoning is wrong, are they going to signpost cyclists have ‘priority’ if cycling up ‘against the flow’? Because I can’t see a driver relenting otherwise,” says AlsoSomniloquism.

Mattw asked: “Does low speed zone, birectional cycling and one way for motor vehicles mean that they will be putting in a 20mph speed limit (which is currently not there)?”

Cavendish 'spotted' on Wilier Astana bike (credit - Kyosuke Takei)
Cavendish 'spotted' on Wilier Astana bike (credit - Kyosuke Takei) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cavendish 'spotted' on Wilier Astana bike (credit - Kyosuke Takei)
Cavendish 'spotted' on Wilier Astana bike (credit – Kyosuke Takei) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

And finally, onto everyone’s favourite unsolved mystery…

“I reckon Cav is just going to start wearing Astana kit he’s bought from a shop, turning up at training camps and races and everyone will just run with it and assume that someone else made the decision to actually sign him,” says ShutTheFrontDawes.

“Basically, just bluff his way through. He’s got nothing to lose at this point.”

If that’s what it takes to get that 35th stage win, I wouldn’t put it past him…

Have a great Christmas everyone!

20 December 2022, 09:24

“I don’t see many cyclists in the area so there isn’t a need for a cycle lane”: ‘But my car’ motorist says contraflow cycleway “won’t work in real world” – because cars might be scratched

Speaking of completely rational and coherent takes on proposals to install some rudimentary cycling infrastructure…

Down in Bournemouth, BCP Council is currently working on plans to introduce a contraflow system for cyclists on two of the coastal town’s residential roads which, naturally, have provoked some festive outrage from angry motorists in the local newspaper.

While they won’t see the installation of any actual safe or protected cycling infrastructure (don’t get carried away now), the council’s plans will allow cyclists to ride in both directions on Boscombe Grove Road and South Road – both one-way streets – in a bid to provide “a more direct route” for people on bikes, and according to the government’s guidelines for “low speed, low flow” roads.

Boscombe Grove Road, Bournemouth (Google Maps)
Boscombe Grove Road, Bournemouth (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Boscombe Grove Road, Bournemouth (Google Maps)
Boscombe Grove Road, Bournemouth (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Boscombe Grove Road, Bournemouth

However, one local driver has blasted the proposals, which he says might lead to cars being scratched. God forbid…

“It isn’t practical. I understand it has worked in other areas, but it won’t work here,” Mark Elkins told the Daily Echo, who helpfully published a photo of the motorist giving the plans the ‘thumbs down’ from his car, just in case you were confused about what side of the debate he was on.

“The government say there must be 4.6 metres of road to allow for a contraflow cycle lane,” added Elkins, who appears unaware that a cycle lane won’t actually be installed on the roads in question.

“But in reality South Road barely allows cars to go up, let along people on bicycles. A medium size car, such as a Honda Civic, is 1.8m wide from the edge of the car to the kerbside.

“Double that and it’s 3.6m, leaving a metre free, but you can’t have cars up against each other because there would be scratches.

“If you’re lucky there is half a metre left for bikes to go in the opposite direction, but that’s not always the case as lorries and vans come up here too.”

Problem summed up perfectly. I need 1.8m to get down this street, which means there’s no room for you

— @adrianberendt (@adrianberendt1) December 19, 2022

He continued: “I also don’t see many cyclists in the area so there isn’t a need for a cycle lane on the roads.

“When they are on the road, nobody will be able to overtake them and it will lead to a farcical situation. It seems the council has been given money by the government and the reality is it is a waste of public money.”

“I also don’t see many cyclists in the area so there isn’t a need for a cycle lane on the roads,” he added.

Perhaps because there aren’t enough cycle lanes.

BUT MY CAR, indeed.

— Dave Himelfield (@Dave_Examiner) December 19, 2022

Responding to Mr Elkin’s well-reasoned argument, a BCP council spokesperson said: “There are no plans for a new cycle lane on Boscombe Grove Road or South Road.

“However, we are planning to allow cycling in both directions on Boscombe Grove Road and South Road (which are one-way roads) as per government guidelines for low speed-low flow roads. These will not be marked cycle facilities, although there will be signs indicating that cycling in both directions is allowed.

“The plans to allow cycling in both directions on Boscombe Grove Road and South Road fully comply with national highway guidelines, including required road widths, which encourage contraflow cycling as it provides a more direct route for cyclists.”

20 December 2022, 09:24

Is that Cav on a Wilier? British champion ‘spotted’ in Spain riding Astana-liveried bike

Mark another day off on your green and rainbow-themed advent calendar, as the most eagerly anticipated social event of the year is almost upon us.

It’s nearly ‘Mark Cavendish signs for new team’ day! (Well, maybe…)

According to reports over the weekend, the 37-year-old sprinter had reportedly signed a deal with Alexander Vinokourov’s Astana-Qazaqstan and was set to join the team yesterday at their pre-season training camp in Calpe.

But until the cycling world is treated to a carefully choreographed poolside rap battle between Cav and Vino, we’ve been forced to live off the kind of scraps usually reserved for the dog on Christmas day.

Cavendish 'spotted' on Wilier Astana bike (credit - Kyosuke Takei)
Cavendish 'spotted' on Wilier Astana bike (credit - Kyosuke Takei) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cavendish 'spotted' on Wilier Astana bike (credit - Kyosuke Takei)
Cavendish 'spotted' on Wilier Astana bike (credit – Kyosuke Takei) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Which is exactly what I’ve got for you this morning!

A grainy clip posted to Twitter last night by one cyclist/part-time sleuth currently getting in the miles in the south-east of Spain appears to show a rider with a familiar stocky build, wearing what appears to be a British champion’s jersey, riding what – if you squint hard enough – appears to be a Wilier bike, decked out in that distinctive Astana shade of blue…

🤔🇰🇿🤔🇰🇿🤔
Mark Cavendish will probably go to Astana because he’s riding Wilier’s bike.
🙆‍♀️🇪🇸🙆‍♀️🇪🇸🙆‍♀️ pic.twitter.com/f4AvhFpfPC

— 🇺🇦🕊Kyosuke Takei🕊🇺🇦 (@KyosukeTakei) December 19, 2022

While several cycling fans have welcomed the video as concrete evidence that the ink is currently drying on Cavendish’s new deal, some aren’t as convinced:

https://t.co/lsf9SoVRdj pic.twitter.com/aiXMnx3Tkd

— Mihai Simion (@faustocoppi60) December 20, 2022

I’ve seen more convincing evidence in the Zapruder film.

— Colin Lynch PLY (@FormerTTchamp) December 20, 2022

Others, meanwhile (mostly those who own Wiliers themselves) are excited about the possibility of the former world champion sprinting to Tour de France glory aboard one of these Italian beauties:

CAV on one of these…. can’t wait pic.twitter.com/jXlrJ0bR16

— RIDE MY WILIER 🚴‍♂️ (@fatmanonaWILIER) December 19, 2022

In any case, Cavendish’s fraught, rumour-laden December has prompted many onlookers to embrace their inner online football fandom – ‘Come on Vino, announce Cav!’

Sat waiting for news on Mark Cavendish signing for Astana-Qazaqstan. Can only assume any delay is due to the highly-refined rap production announcement they’re planning

— The TT Podcast 🚴 (@ttpdcst) December 19, 2022

20 December 2022, 09:24

Near Miss of the Day 840: Cyclist narrowly avoids collision with motorist who doesn't wait at roundabout

Near Miss of the Day 840: Cyclist narrowly avoids collision with motorist who doesn't wait at roundabout

Remind us which direction we give way to at roundabouts?

20 December 2022, 09:24

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  1. ShutTheFrontDawes
    December 20, 2022 at 11:03 am
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    I reckon Cav is just going to
    I reckon Cav is just going to start wearing Astana kit he’s bought from a shop, turning up at training camps and races and everyone will just run with it and assume that someone else made the decision to actually sign him. Basically, just bluff his way through. He’s got nothing to lose at this point 😉

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  2. mattw
    December 20, 2022 at 11:28 am
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    The Bournemouth one is

    The Bournemouth one is interesting.

    Does low speed zone, birectional cycling and one way for motor vehicles mean that they will be putting in a 20mph speed limit (which is currently not there)?

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  3. eburtthebike
    December 20, 2022 at 12:25 pm
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    “It isn’t practical. I

    “It isn’t practical. I understand it has worked in other areas, but it won’t work here,” Mark Elkins”

    A late entry for this year’s NIMBY award, but straight into the top three.

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      December 20, 2022 at 1:15 pm
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      Whilst his initial reasoning

      Whilst his initial reasoning is wrong, are they going to signpost cyclists have “priority” if cycling up “against the flow”? Because I can’t see a driver relenting otherwise. 

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  4. Secret_squirrel
    December 20, 2022 at 1:59 pm
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    Im sadly waiting for the

    Im sadly waiting for the tenuous cycling link to Martin Duffy of Charlatans/Primal Scream fame….. 🙁

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64038944

     

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    • Ryan Mallon
      December 20, 2022 at 4:44 pm
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      Awful one, that.

      Awful one, that.

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  5. Hirsute
    December 20, 2022 at 2:06 pm
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    Will Quince is saying to

    Will Quince is saying to avoid contact sport, unnecessary car journeys and risky activity tomorrow.

    Should I go out on the bike ?

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    • wtjs
      December 20, 2022 at 2:20 pm
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      Should I go out on the bike ?

      Should I go out on the bike ?

      Only at restricted times!! You will recall the advice given by Northumbria Police that there should be no cycling at busy times, and the advice of South Wales Traffic (or some such name) that you shouldn’t cycle at night- or during Royal Funerals. On those occasions you must use a respectable mode of transport such as a car, like normal people

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    • IanMK
      December 20, 2022 at 3:25 pm
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      Surely it’s going to be less

      Surely it’s going to be less risky to go out on the bike because no drivers will be taking unnecessary car journeys. It will be like lockdown cycling all over again 

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  6. OnYerBike
    December 20, 2022 at 2:20 pm
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    I think the Daily Echo chose

    I think the Daily Echo chose the wrong photo of Mark Elkins – I prefer this file photo. 

    He seems to have completely misunderstood what the council plan. Permitting contraflow cycling means putting up a few signs – no paint, no lanes, no change to the road layout. Just “Except cyclists” under the No Entry and a few contraflow signs on lampposts. 

    He is right that there is unlikely to be much room for a bike and a car to pass in some places, but that’s no different than many other similar roads. In practice, it’s not an issue (and no, there’s nothing about the “reality” of those particular roads that make them different). It’s a rare occurence anyway (given low flows of both) but when it does happen the road users simple manage to negotiate past, even if it means one pulling right over to let the other past.

    As for “When they are on the road, nobody will be able to overtake them and it will lead to a farcical situation” I’m not quite sure what he means. If he’s talking about cyclists travelling with the flow of traffic, I agree those roads are not wide enough to permit safe overtaking. The motorist will simply have to wait behind until they reach the end of the road (Google maps estimates a typical cyclist will take ~1 minute to travel the 0.2 mile length of South Road), which is hardly “farcical”. And it’s also already permitted so the new plans don’t change that. Unless of course he is simply worried that the new plans will encourage more cycling and therefore increase the chance of being mildly inconvenienced…

    I would also point out that the contraflow system might actually mean you are less likely to be “stuck” behind a cyclist – if you encounter a cyclist coming the other way, as per the above, you negotiate past each other and then both carry on your merry way.

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  7. nniff
    December 20, 2022 at 5:19 pm
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    That ridiculous Salford thing

    That ridiculous Salford thing – surely there must be some design standards that they’re trying to follow, or have they just given a local play group some Lego and then built whatever the toddlers created? 

    Leaving aside the nonsense that is the bike-related infrastructure, who on earth thought that buiding a trip hazard into tactile paving was in any way acceptable?  The tactile paving also seems to have sprung from a one foot wide path and wall (to the left).  Somehow, a person with limited vision is supposed to make their way to the Toucan crossing – past the ‘look left’ markings (Shurley shome mishstake), over non-tactile yellow brick.  The crossing control looks to be a new one, so that will have a rotating button underneath to make all good – not sure how someone who needs it will ever find it though. 

    Coming the other way, the tactile paving is going to route the predestrian straight into the kerb and tip them smartly into the wall.

    I do have a good use for the wall though, when the Revolution comes…..

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  8. NickSprink
    December 20, 2022 at 5:38 pm
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    I think Mr Elkins of

    I think Mr Elkins of Bournemouth makes a very valid point about the lack of space.  However easily solved – remove all the car parking then there is plenty of room 

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  9. Rome73
    December 21, 2022 at 7:33 am
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    what I never get about these

    what I never get about these slick ‘solo’ back packing / cycling / camping / whatever  videos is that so many of the shots are clearly from either a hand held camera (another person’s hand) or from a moving vehicle. 

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  10. Calc
    December 21, 2022 at 7:38 am
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    If anyone is local to

    If anyone is local to “Salford’s tragic roundabout” they should just go for a walk and trip over that kerb.  Be sure to have your Solicitor, witnesses and neck brace ready.  Maybe take a video of you dancing the tango before so you can tearfully watch it in your court appearance.  That should help the payout hit Caribean Holiday House money.

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    • chrisonabike
      December 21, 2022 at 10:16 am
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      But why would that ever

      But why would that ever happen?  Look how self-explanatory they’ve made it!  It’s *much* safer there now, you’ll be protected from cyclists…

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Mr Blackbird 17 minutes ago

Media such as the BBC help fuel the resentment towards cyclists. Lizzie Deignan was on BBC breakfast this morning talking about a podcast that acted as a couch to cycle for about an hour programme to encourage people to cycle to get fit and lose weight. The BBC presenters were John Kay and Sally Nugent, who always seem to argue from Daily Mail readers' viewpoint. At the end of the interview, John Kay asked "And what would you say to motorists who think there are already too many cyclists on the road?" A totally meaningless argument, which translates as "What would you say to motorists who believe based on no evidence that any cyclists on the road, slow down their journey and mean they have to allow realistic journey times to reach their destinations while avoiding speeding etc?"

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Rendel Harris 28 minutes ago

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Mr Blackbird 1 hour ago

I'm a cyclist and many of my friends are house clearance auction specialists. Surprisingly they aren't all arses. Maybe it's the Grimsby factor? Wasn't it Grimsby where that tosser mayor banned all cyclists within 40 miles of the town centre?

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chrisonabike 1 hour ago

Agree that cycle lanes are pretty poor "infra". But although that "taking away and suffocating the freedom of other road users" is a weird phrase *... ... there is a "fairness" perception at work here. But simply "riding like a car" won't fix it at all! That means cyclists fall foul of the psychological "cheater detection" mechanism: we're using the same space but not playing by the same rules (not paying "road tax", we can filter past etc. ) Cyclists are visibly an "other" and people have been shown to expect "respect" (submissive behaviour) in those circumstances. But cyclists can't help being "provocative" - we're "in the way"! People may tolerate cyclists where they're a rare occurrence. But for mass cycling either the cyclists have to be in their own distinct space OR motorists have to be cued to be "guests". So not many of them, cyclists likely to be in the majority, speed reduced to that of cycling, in environments where there isn't an expectation of rapid progress such as residential areas with plants etc. * I think that's not even in the heads of most who are irked by cyclists. Reminds me of Monty Python - "Help, help, I'm being repressed!" For one it sounds like that concern is only for the road users who are a lot "more equal than others" (by design) - the motorised ones. And in reality NO "freedoms" are being lost! In fact the reverse is true: the growth of mass motoring has literally taken away freedoms. Like the freedom to get places - other than by driving (dual carriageway in the way now). And the freedom from serious "inconvenience" - but not "being delayed by a few seconds" / having to walk a few extra tens of meters than the minimum possible - inconvenience to vulnerable road users includes injury to health or even death...

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jackcycles 2 hours ago

The Grimsby man's views are symptomatic of the inherent unfairness of cycle lanes taking away and suffocating the freedom of other road users. If you're on wheels, you should generally share the same road space (except for designated off-road areas). It annoys other road users if cyclists don't use the rubbish, unfit for purpose nonsense that councils have installed at great expense. Because many drivers haven't experienced these awful facilities themselves, they mistakenly identify cyclists as self-entitled wind-up.merchants, rather than people just trying to avoid poor infrastructure.

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Jakrayan 2 hours ago

And even swung in as they passed 🤦‍♂️ Police action - warning letter to the company, didn't even identify the driver. This is in Kent - they seem as bad as Lancs.

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Jakrayan 2 hours ago

Some of their drivers are feckin dangerous.

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HLaB 3 hours ago

He "never thought of that" and "some of my best friends are" . Sounds like he doesn't think of much and is just blinded by his hatred into inventing things. Why is road.cc giving him air space!

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the little onion 3 hours ago

Barry Shitpeas (Philomena Cunk's sidekick) was a very prescient character. Basically a quarter-wit expressing ignorant opinions without any understanding of the issues at hand, with ample doses of Dunning-Kruger.

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