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Bat-wielding driver pepper-sprayed by cyclist – September 2025
Bat-wielding driver pepper-sprayed by cyclist - September 2025 (Image Credit: Via Tomasz Oryński on Bluesky)

Footage of bat-wielding road rage driver being pepper-sprayed by cyclist in Poland goes viral; Pello Bilbao blasts UCI “hypocrisy” over Israel-Premier tech; TfL Highway Code awareness campaign + more

Welcome to your Tuesday edition of the road.cc live blog – there really is no better way to procrastinate the day away. Jack Sexty will be providing most of the productivity to hamper your own, complemented by some honest interval efforts from Ryan Mallon
  • by Jack Sexty
Tue, Sep 16, 2025 08:49
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SUMMARY

  • No Danish balcony party for Vingegaard's Vuelta victory as he prioritises end-of-season schedule
  • Ancient Chinese proverbs go disc brake
  • Looking to upgrade your commute? Check out our freshly polished folding bikes guide
  • VecchioJo's Facebook fancy of the week: a vintage 1995 Greek national team track bike, yours for £3,500
  • Andre Grei-pull
  • Well this looks like a potentially very decent off-season purchase...
  • "For those not in the cycling bubble... this was a message to all of corporate sport", says Ned Boulting of improvised Vuelta podium celebration
  • Transport for London launches new poster campaign to raise awareness of Highway Code rules. Social media comments are as informed as ever...
  • Over 2,400 shipping containers containing e-bikes seized as part of anti-dumping crackdown from China, with six arrests made
  • Veteran Bahrain-Victorious rider Pello Bilbao hits out at UCI's "hypocrisy" over allowing Israel-Premier Tech to remain on WorldTour, and praises pro-Palestine protesters
  • Quick-Step rider Louis Vervaeke claims that Israel-Premier Tech riders were asking rivals for 'a spot on their team next year'
  • Questionable study of the week: Hyundai drivers are "the most frustrated with cyclists" and "Gen-Z drivers are the most nervous sharing a road with cyclists", plus other unusual nuggets
  • "In the end, all we needed was a car park, some duck tape and some cool boxes"
  • *SENSITIVE CONTENT WARNING* "Touching their car is like touching them personally": Polish cyclists comment on shocking video showing bat-wielding driver being 'pepper-sprayed'
Bat-wielding driver pepper-sprayed by cyclist – September 2025
Bat-wielding driver pepper-sprayed by cyclist - September 2025 (Image Credit: Via Tomasz Oryński on Bluesky)
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16 September 2025, 08:49

No Danish balcony party for Vingegaard's Vuelta victory as he prioritises end-of-season schedule

Jonas Vingegaard, Joao Almeida, and Tom Pidcock, stage 21, 2025 Vuelta
Jonas Vingegaard, Joao Almeida, and Tom Pidcock, stage 21, 2025 Vuelta (Image Credit: Unipublic / Cxcling / Antonio Baixauli)
Jonas Vingegaard, Joao Almeida, and Tom Pidcock, stage 21, 2025 Vuelta
Jonas Vingegaard, Joao Almeida, and Tom Pidcock, stage 21, 2025 Vuelta (Image Credit: Unipublic / Cxcling / Antonio Baixauli)

The Danish Cycling Union (DCU) has confirmed that there will be no homecoming celebration on a balcony in Copenhagen this year to mark Jonas Vingegaard’s Vuelta victory, as the 28-year-old prioritises his recovery ahead of the European Road Championships in two weeks’ time. Mads Pederson – who won the points classification – will also miss out on a Danish knees-up to mark his success. 

“We at DCU have tried all possibilities because the Minister of Culture wanted to celebrate Vingegaard’s triumph”, the governing body told Feltet.

“However, Jonas needs to come home and recover after a tough Vuelta, and we have great respect for that.” 

An official celebration is instead due to take place at Visma Lease-a-Bike HQ in the Dutch city of Den Bosch today. 

16 September 2025, 08:49

Ancient Chinese proverbs go disc brake

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Josh Panzer (@biciclette_d_epoca)

16 September 2025, 08:49

Looking to upgrade your commute? Check out our freshly polished folding bikes guide

folding bikes
folding bikes (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
folding bikes
folding bikes (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Here’s one we might have forgot to give a once over for Commuting Week, a pretty large oversight so hopefully you can forgive us just this once… 

> Best folding bikes

16 September 2025, 08:49

VecchioJo's Facebook fancy of the week: a vintage 1995 Greek national team track bike, yours for £3,500

Vintage 1996 Greek track bike - via Facebook Marketplace
Vintage 1996 Greek track bike - via Facebook Marketplace (Image Credit: Facebook Marketplace)
Vintage 1996 Greek track bike - via Facebook Marketplace
Vintage 1996 Greek track bike – via Facebook Marketplace (Image Credit: Facebook Marketplace)

Our spotter-in-chief has come up with the vintage goods again, happening across this (what appears to be) genuine 1995 track bike as used by the Greek national cycling team at the time. 

The seller, representing Miclo Bikes Limited based in London, says this is an original Metron track bike in a size medium with Shamal tubular wheels and 165mm C record cranks (short cranks aren’t such a new thing, then). 

The price is set at £3,500, and if you’re interested in owning this slice of Greek cycling history you can check out the listing here while it’s still live. 

Yamas!

16 September 2025, 08:49

Andre Grei-pull

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Andre Greipel (@andregreipel)

Just the legendary German sprinter towing a mate up a hill, barely breaking sweat. The 42-year-old strangely credits Shimano Germany and Schwalbe tyres for the effort, which is modest to say the least. 

16 September 2025, 08:49

Well this looks like a potentially very decent off-season purchase...

 
 
 
 
View this post on Instagram
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

A post shared by CYCPLUS (@cycplus_official)

Cycplus is promising +/-1% accuracy, up to 2,200 watts of resistance and cordless riding (at low intensities) in its new $499 (around £366) R200 trainer. You can also shift virtually with Cycplus’ app and its BC2 device, which is sold separately. 

More on this later in the week, and of course we’ll be asking for one to review in full. 

This post originally said the R200 trainer was priced at $399, but this was an error when switching between countries on the Cycplus website. We’re now getting a UK price of £368.07 excluding shipping and taxes at checkout, still very reasonable indeed compared to similarly-specced smart trainers. 

16 September 2025, 08:49

"For those not in the cycling bubble... this was a message to all of corporate sport", says Ned Boulting of improvised Vuelta podium celebration

For those not in the cycling bubble…this was a message to all of corporate sport.

Last night, the final podium ceremony of the Vuelta was cancelled (for important reasons, but not for this point).

So the teams and the riders improvised.

What we saw was the real thing. https://t.co/kJQE7b5Peg

— Ned Boulting 🏳️‍⚧️ (@nedboulting) September 15, 2025

For those of you still catching up, stage 21 of the Vuelta was cancelled on Sunday after pro-Palestine protesters breached security around the finishing circuit in Madrid.

As we also mentioned on yesterday’s live blog, an improvised finish complete with hastily erected sponsor backdrops and drinks coolers in place of a podium were thrown up, and Ned Boulting sees it as a rather more genuine representation of the sport compared to the usual corporate fanfare we’re used to witnessing. 

Putting aside the circumstances, you can’t deny there was something charming about a two-time Tour de France champ hopping on a drinks cooler to claim his third Grand Tour victory, popping champagne likely bought from a local corner shop. 

16 September 2025, 08:49

Transport for London launches new poster campaign to raise awareness of Highway Code rules. Social media comments are as informed as ever...

Transport for London Highway Code campaign poster always stop at red lights
Transport for London Highway Code campaign poster always stop at red lights (Image Credit: Transport for London)
Transport for London Highway Code campaign poster always stop at red lights
Transport for London Highway Code campaign poster always stop at red lights (Image Credit: Transport for London)

TfL has released details of a new poster campaign to promote the observation of Highway Code rules on its road network. Some are aimed at cyclists – such as the one above stating that cyclists must always stop at red lights – while others are aimed at drivers or a mix of the two, like reminding drivers and cyclists to let pedestrians cross before they turn, and letting drivers know they must let cyclists pass before turning (below). 

Transport for London Highway Code campaign poster always let cyclists pass before turning
Transport for London Highway Code campaign poster always let cyclists pass before turning (Image Credit: Transport for London)
Transport for London Highway Code campaign poster always let cyclists pass before turning
Transport for London Highway Code campaign poster always let cyclists pass before turning (Image Credit: Transport for London)

Despite the latest data from TfL revealing that, as always, incidents involving motor vehicles are far more likely to results in serious injuries and death, that hasn’t stopped numerous people on social media claiming that cyclists are causing most of the issues: 

“90% of the danger on London’s roads are cyclist / escooter and ebike. Cars are pretty reasonable”, one incorrectly claimed, while another said without evidence: “Cyclists should receive training they are often the worst offenders against pedestrians.” 

Still, others had a more measured approach: “The instructions are a reminder to all people on wheels to drive with courtesy and within the law to keep everyone safe”, said one. 

TfL says the posters form part of its Vision Zero strategy, which aims to eliminate all deaths and serious injuries from London’s transport network by 2041, and was also introduced because some elements of the Highway Code – particularly newer additions concerning cyclist and pedestrian safety – are not widely understood by the public. 

“[The] new campaign aims to raise awareness of the Highway Code, with a particular focus on highlighting key rules designed to protect people walking, cycling and motorcycling”, says TfL. 

“[The] campaign will appear on roadside posters across the capital and TfL’s social media channels and is supported by the DfT. 

“Recent TfL survey found only 16 per cent of people understand key Highway Code rules designed to keep everyone safe. Latest data shows cycling and motorcycling and walking remain the most at-risk road users in London.” 

16 September 2025, 08:49

16 September 2025, 08:49

Over 2,400 shipping containers containing e-bikes seized as part of anti-dumping crackdown from China, with six arrests made

Shipping containers in Greece
Shipping containers in Greece (Image Credit: European Public Prosecutor's Office)
Shipping containers in Greece
Shipping containers in Greece (Image Credit: European Public Prosecutor's Office)

In the Greek port city of Piraeus, six people – including customs officers – have been arrested for their alleged part in a criminal network that imported goods illegally from China to avoid customs duty.

According to the European Public Prosecutor’s Office (EPPO), over €250 million–worth of goods including e-bikes, textiles and footwear were seized during the huge raid, and compliance has been higher since the crackdown happened. The operation has been dubbed ‘Investigation Calypso’. 

European Chief Prosecutor Laura Codruța Kövesi said: “Highly organised criminal networks have been specialising in this kind of fraud for years. They have grown accustomed to cause massive damages to our finances and economies with close to no risk.

“Investigation Calypso sends these criminals a simple message: the rules of the game have changed, no more safe havens for you! Now we need to turn this spectacular success into systematic work: we need dedicated and specialised police, customs and tax investigators in the whole EPPO zone.” 

The EPPO estimates that just the e-bikes that were seized in the raid will have resulted in €25 million in unpaid customs duties and €12.5 million in VAT losses. Those e-bikes filled 500 shipping containers, and those that have been opened so far were found to be heavily undervalued. On average, only 10-15% of the actual number of e-bikes in a container were declared, according to the EPPO. 

16 September 2025, 08:49

Veteran Bahrain-Victorious rider Pello Bilbao hits out at UCI's "hypocrisy" over allowing Israel-Premier Tech to remain on WorldTour, and praises pro-Palestine protesters

Tour de France 2023, 10th stage, Pello Bilbao, Bahrain – Victorious – photo Dion Kerckhoffs-Cor Vos-SprintCyclingAgency©2023 - 1
Tour de France 2023, 10th stage, Pello Bilbao, Bahrain – Victorious – photo Dion Kerckhoffs-Cor Vos-SprintCyclingAgency©2023 - 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tour de France 2023, 10th stage, Pello Bilbao, Bahrain – Victorious – photo Dion Kerckhoffs-Cor Vos-SprintCyclingAgency©2023 - 1
Tour de France 2023, 10th stage, Pello Bilbao, Bahrain – Victorious – photo Dion Kerckhoffs-Cor Vos-SprintCyclingAgency©2023 – 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The 35-year-old, who has a post pinned to his Instagram page that simply says “Stop genocide on Gaza”, expressed surprise that he has not been asked about his views on the conflict or the disruptions at the Vuelta a Espana before during an interview with Spanish publication El Periodico. 

Reiterating his belief that the invasion of Gaza by the state of Israel should be considered a genocide of the Palestinian people, Bilbao blamed the UCI and the Spanish government for not taking action to protect riders before the start of the Vuelta, and questioned why Israel-Premier tech were able to race when Russian teams are banned. 

Bilbao said: “It’s not easy for me to give my opinion on this issue and say that I want Israel-Premier Tech out of the peloton when I have former teammates and acquaintances there with whom I get along well and who I know work hard within the team. It’s a very complicated situation, and they’re suffering too.

“But, at the same time, I don’t understand the UCI’s hypocrisy when they made a different decision with [Gazprom-RusVelo]. I don’t understand the difference. Why some and not others? I don’t know if they think the problem will be solved if Israel and [the team’s owner] Sylvan Adams leave the team and Premier Tech remains [a] Canadian team. Maybe it’s a compromise. But I repeat: I don’t understand the UCI’s hypocrisy.” 

Bilbao also claimed there other riders in the WorldTour peloton who hold similar views to him, but suggested they are not as “radical” and want to “avoid awkward situations.”

“One race stops, but not the whole world”, continued Bilbao.

“This shouldn’t be the main discussion when more than 60,000 civilians have died in Gaza; 20,000 of them were children.

“…they’re in a prison with an open sky, their homes destroyed, on the verge of dying of hunger, and with no safe place in the Gaza Strip. They [the state of Israel] bomb hospitals and camps. It’s inhumane.” 

16 September 2025, 08:49

Quick-Step rider Louis Vervaeke claims that Israel-Premier Tech riders were asking rivals for 'a spot on their team next year'

Louis Vervaeke
Louis Vervaeke (Image Credit: Soudal Quick-Step)
Louis Vervaeke
Louis Vervaeke (Image Credit: Soudal Quick-Step)

In an interview with Sporza, the 31-year-old Belgian revealed some more details around the fear that engulfed the peloton during the Vuelta a Espana, claiming that some Israel-Premier Tech riders wanted to go home, and even asked other riders if there were any spots on their teams for the 2026 season. 

“They’re [Israel-Premier Tech riders] wearing that shirt with that flag… they were really struggling and just wanted the Vuelta to be over.

“Some riders even asked if we had a spot on the team for next year. They also felt they couldn’t go home because they were getting paid and would risk being fired. That was very sad for them.”

Vervaeke said the atmosphere changed following the infamous scenes during stage 11 in Bilbao, claiming that some protesters jumped from bridges with ropes in an attempt to stop team cars, and tacks were placed on the road.  

He continued: “We just wanted to race, and we didn’t want the race to be jeopardised. But we were in danger. That can’t be the intention. It felt like we were in a political conflict. That’s taking things too far, and in Madrid it simply wasn’t sustainable anymore.”

16 September 2025, 08:49

Questionable study of the week: Hyundai drivers are "the most frustrated with cyclists" and "Gen-Z drivers are the most nervous sharing a road with cyclists", plus other unusual nuggets

1982 Hyundai Pony
Hyundai owners have no time for you, say 53% of a small number of Hyundai owners (Image Credit: CC BY 2.0 via Wikimedia Commons)
1982 Hyundai Pony
Hyundai owners have no time for you, say 53% of a small number of Hyundai owners (Image Credit: CC BY 2.0 via Wikimedia Commons)

Hyundai owners have no time for you, say 53% of a small number of Hyundai owners

Punted back up our inbox today after we may have failed to spot it during a heavy influx of questionable studies sent to us because SEO experts most likely noticed increased search activity around any modes of travel that aren’t the London Underground during last week’s tube strikes, is another questionable study courtesy of insurance firm Cycleplan. 

Based off a sample of 1,000 drivers, the study managed to ascertain that “Hyundai owners are the most frustrated with cyclists”, 53% of them to be exact. That’s compared to 52% of MG drivers, 51.3% of Tesla drivers, 51% of Nissan drivers, and 50.8% of Merc drivers.

Even if we were to assume that those surveyed were only owners of those five brands of car, we’re going to put it out there and say it’s a bit of a reach to claim that Hyundai owners are absolutely the most annoyed at us out of all the drivers of all the cars in the UK. Were Morris Minor owners consulted? What about the 187 people (according to Autocar) that get around in an Ineos Grenadier 4×4? Answers on a postcard please, if you aren’t accosted by a hotheaded Hyundai driver on your way to get one…

From this mysterious sample of 1,000, the researchers also concluded that Gen-Z drivers (those born roughly between 1997-2012, who can also drive in this instance) are “the most nervous sharing the road with cyclists”, Newcastle residents are “the most friendly towards cyclists”, and 78% of drivers “feel confident they know the traffic rules that apply to cyclists” (there’s some stuff further down the page that contradicts this somewhat). 

Cycleplan also shares some advice that is a little more universal, reiterating the need for drivers to leave 1.5m of space when overtaking cyclists, and be patient and observant. 

“Our research highlights drivers’ perception of cyclists and how vulnerable they are on roads”, says Alan Thomas at Cycleplan. 

“Some drivers feel nervous sharing the road with cyclists; however, it’s encouraging to see that most have the knowledge to act responsibly. There is a need for better education and investment in cycling infrastructure to ensure the safety of drivers and cyclists on the roads.” 

16 September 2025, 08:49

"In the end, all we needed was a car park, some duck tape and some cool boxes"

 
 
 
 
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Tom Pidcock’s take on the 2025 Vuelta’s car park ceremony after bagging third place overall. In the comments, people are saying it’s “the best podium ever”, “heartwarming” and “making the best out of the situation” amongst other (almost all positive) things. 

16 September 2025, 08:49

*SENSITIVE CONTENT WARNING* "Touching their car is like touching them personally": Polish cyclists comment on shocking video showing bat-wielding driver being 'pepper-sprayed'

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We’ll warn you again that the video above contains very strong language and sensitive content

The driver of the red Porsche – who has a UK number plate – is accused by the cyclist of going the wrong way down a one-way street. A foul-mouthed argument ensues, before the driver appears again with a baseball bat at 1:55 into the clip. 

The cyclist points what looks like a pepper spray can towards the driver – who is now advancing towards him – and we see the driver holding his face at the end of the clip after the spray has been deployed. 

Pepper spray is legal to carry by anyone over the age of 18 without permission or registration in Poland, however owners who deploy the spray when faced with an imminent threat are expected to report the incident to the police. 

The incident reportedly happened in the city of Szczecin in northwest Poland. 

“People freak out about their metal boxes, and touching their car is like touching them personally”, said Kompot45 in the comments section on Reddit. 

We’re currently trying to find out more details, and will update this blog if we get them. 

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32 thoughts on “Footage of bat-wielding road rage driver being pepper-sprayed by cyclist in Poland goes viral; Pello Bilbao blasts UCI “hypocrisy” over Israel-Premier tech; TfL Highway Code awareness campaign + more”

  1. mdavidford
    September 16, 2025 at 9:04 am
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    Quote:

    the driver obtains a baseball bat from his vehicle

    Was someone a beat copper in a TV comedy in a former life? (Although you forgot to put the ‘h’ on the start of ‘hobtains’.)

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  2. mdavidford
    September 16, 2025 at 9:36 am
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    Quote:

    The 42-year-old strangely credits Shimano Germany and Schwalbe tyres

    Not that strangely, when you look closely at the ‘tow-rope’.

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  3. mitsky
    September 16, 2025 at 9:49 am
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    Aside from the language in

    Aside from the language in that clip from Poland, which any adult/person with internet access will not be fazed by, the clip doesn’t really show anything worse that we might have seen elsewhere (with regards to cyclist v driver confrontations).

    Unless I’m missing something.

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    • mctrials23
      September 16, 2025 at 10:44 am
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      You can see the driver swing

      You can see the driver swing the baseball bat at the cyclist. I’d say thats generally worse than most road rage we see here. 

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      • mitsky
        September 16, 2025 at 1:25 pm
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        Good spot. Don’t know how I

        Good spot. Don’t know how I missed that.

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        • NotNigel
          September 16, 2025 at 2:17 pm
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          Does this help?

          Does this help?

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          • mark1a
            September 16, 2025 at 8:04 pm
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            NotNigel wrote:

            Does this help?

            — NotNigel

            Hmmmm 🤭

        • kinderje
          September 16, 2025 at 2:47 pm
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          Has anyone else spotted that

          Has anyone else spotted that if he’s going the wrong way down a one way street how come there’s another parked car facing the same way as the porsche? (just ahead of the white Mini)

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          • Hirsute
            September 16, 2025 at 4:00 pm
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            The map shown in the blue sky
            The map shown in the blue sky thread shows a one way street with this driver going the wrong way.

          • Rendel Harris
            September 16, 2025 at 4:41 pm
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            kinderje wrote:

            Has anyone else spotted that if he’s going the wrong way down a one way street how come there’s another parked car facing the same way as the porsche? (just ahead of the white Mini)

            — kinderje

            Because that driver went the wrong way too?

             

    • mdavidford
      September 16, 2025 at 2:56 pm
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      mitsky wrote:

      Aside from the language in that clip from the person in Poland

      — mitsky

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  4. Rendel Harris
    September 16, 2025 at 9:53 am
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    Is it just me hearing a

    Is it just me hearing a paraphrase of Sean Connery: “Trusht an Englishman to bring a roundersh bat to a pepper-shpray fight…”

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    • NotNigel
      September 16, 2025 at 10:19 am
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      It probably was up until I

      It probably was up until I read your comment now I can’t not hear it…reminds me of the classic ‘what time does Sean Connery usually turn up to watch Wimbledon?…Ten-ish’

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    • the little onion
      September 16, 2025 at 10:37 am
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      Rendel Harris wrote:

      Is it just me hearing a paraphrase of Sean Connery: “Trusht an Englishman to bring a roundersh bat to a pepper-shpray fight…”

      — Rendel Harris

       

      Thatsh the Shicago way! 
       

      or Shimano way. No shure.

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      • Rendel Harris
        September 16, 2025 at 4:28 pm
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        the little onion wrote:

        Thatsh the Shicago way! 
         

        or Shimano way. No shure.

        — the little onion

        Shapeau!

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  5. whosatthewheel
    September 16, 2025 at 11:15 am
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    Not a British driver. Just

    Not a British driver. Just another Pole (poorly) pretending to be one. And yes, those pepper sprays are quite popular in Poland. Usually followed by grabbing the car keys from the ingition and throwing them in the nearest rain water hatch.

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    • Rendel Harris
      September 16, 2025 at 4:40 pm
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      whosatthewheel wrote:

      Not a British driver. Just another Pole (poorly) pretending to be one. 

      — whosatthewheel

      Wow, plenty to unpick there. So he’s a Pole whose desire to pretend to be British extends to having UK plates? Wouldn’t a Pole arguing with another Pole speak Polish? As far as I can see and hear the Porsche driver seems to be more of Middle Eastern origin. And lastly, just a friendly reminder that you can have a foreign accent and still be British, e.g. Queen Victoria.

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  6. OxyMoron
    September 16, 2025 at 11:19 am
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    At least the Porsche is taxed
    At least the Porsche is taxed and MOT’d

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  7. HLaB
    September 16, 2025 at 1:21 pm
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    So if I understand that TFL

    So if I understand that TFL thing right, if you’re cycling up to a junction on the major road and something you cant see starts indicating behind you, always let them by. How’s that going to work :-/

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    • mitsky
      September 16, 2025 at 2:20 pm
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      What am I misreading?

      What am I misreading?

      Presumably the request is to drivers of vehicles behind to not turn across cyclists?

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      • HLaB
        September 16, 2025 at 3:07 pm
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        Sorry my misread on a draggy

        Sorry, my misread on a draggy PC between meetings, I mergered the statement above ordering cyclists with that one blush

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  8. HLaB
    September 16, 2025 at 1:30 pm
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    PS the Cycplus Web site has

    PS the Cycplus Web site has $499, despite the Google link saying $399.

    R200 Smart Trainer

     

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  9. mdavidford
    September 16, 2025 at 2:03 pm
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    Did you just fall asleep

    Did you just fall asleep halfway through typing this?

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  10. mdavidford
    September 16, 2025 at 2:11 pm
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    Generally, I take a pretty

    Generally, I take a pretty dim view of ‘what about the other sportswashing teams’ responses to the Isreal issue, but Pello Bilbao of Bahrain-Victorious accusing the UCI of hypocrisy does, shall we say, have a whiff of an extravagant lack of awareness.

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    • MaxiMinimalist
      September 16, 2025 at 3:25 pm
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      As if pro cyclists needed to
      As if pro cyclists needed to join the long cohort of useless political activists and impotent politicians. The disruption of a cycling race in Spain, which might have received the unofficial nod of the government, had no impact on the situation in Gaza. One may wonder why Bilboa omitted to mention Hamas and Palestine islamic jihad in his rant.

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      • mdavidford
        September 16, 2025 at 3:27 pm
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        MaxiMinimalist wrote:

        One may wonder why Bilboa omitted to mention Hamas and Palestine islamic jihad in his rant.

        — MaxiMinimalist

        I’m not aware that there’s any such team in the WorldTour.

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  11. Karbonlite
    September 16, 2025 at 2:18 pm
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    I raced the WUCA (ultra

    I raced the WUCA (ultra-cycling) unsupported World Chamionships this year at the Race Around Poland (3600km so I have seen a bit of the country) and let’s be fair to them: they are the best drivers I have ever encountered when it comes to respect of the cyclists (safety distances, not cutting them). We were of course avoiding most cities but still. This is quite surprising compared to the standards of driving on their highways, catastrophically dangerous IMO. The Porsche driver has a non-British accent but would speak Polish if he were Polish himself. Such a weird way to behave, especially when you are not a local. 

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  12. mitsky
    September 16, 2025 at 2:20 pm
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    Is there a case of

    Is there a case of discrimination here from TfL?

    When would they, or any other organisation, dare to put out notices saying:
    “Drivers must always stop at red lights”??

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    • panda
      September 16, 2025 at 4:18 pm
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      Maybe when drivers hadn’t

      Maybe when drivers hadn’t already passed a test requiring that sort of knowledge in order to be able to drive legally on the road?  

      I’m joking of course.  There does need to be some sort of public information campaign along the lines of “Charley says if a traffic light goes amber and you’ve got time and space to stop safely then you absolutely must”, but sadly Kenny won’t be voicing the cat anymore.

      However, if you stand at (say) the junction of London Wall and Old Broad St you might see a few drivers sneaking through on red, and you will see a lot going on the “A” of the “amber”, but I promise you you’ll see many cyclists treating the red lights like give way signs when they’ve been red for a while, and a bit later in the evening you’ll see food delivery riders on modified e-bikes going through red lights without even really slowing down.  It’s the latter that upsets pedestrians (and drivers) and TfL have to acknowledge that problem otherwise lecturing drivers on how to be considerate just leads to whataboutery.  
       

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  13. wtjs
    September 16, 2025 at 2:28 pm
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    Cyclists must always stop at

    Cyclists must always stop at red lights. Follow the rules

    Says TfL- but it doesn’t apply to motorists. Rendel claims the Met. has told him that they won’t take any action against drivers unless they cross the Stop line 3 seconds or more after they turned red. Surely, there should be an identical amnesty for cyclists? That’s a really long time where red lights are concerned- the motorhome below goes through at about 1.6 seconds. Lancashire Constabulary refuses to take any action against RLJ-ing drivers ‘because everybody does it’

    https://upride.cc/incident/kn13aus_knausmotorhome_doubleredlightpass/

    https://upride.cc/incident/a15tjv_bmwm4_redlightpass/  etc. etc.

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    • mitsky
      September 16, 2025 at 2:54 pm
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      “…  the motorhome driver

      “…  the motorhome driver below…”

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  14. ErnieC
    September 16, 2025 at 8:45 pm
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    That’s a rich coming from a

    That’s a rich coming from a rider for Bahrain Victorius.  

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Latest Comments

belugabob 30 seconds ago

maybe we shouldn't be making cars so big and heavy?

in: “It’s murder to keep that speed”: Drivers unhappy as new 20mph limits introduced; Ultra-cyclist’s Monuments world record derailed… by support car crash; Behind the scenes at Tour of Britain; LeBron James rides new custom Canyon + more on the live blog
fatbikephil 4 minutes ago

It's worth noting that Fife (where Dunfermline is) started implementing 20's in 2005. By 2015 all residential zones and town centres had them. The additional new ones in Dunfermline reported above are just for a small number of remaining streets to meet the guidance from the SG. Fife Council used traffic calming and compliance is very good as a result. The vast majority of people support them.

in: “It’s murder to keep that speed”: Drivers unhappy as new 20mph limits introduced; Ultra-cyclist’s Monuments world record derailed… by support car crash; Behind the scenes at Tour of Britain; LeBron James rides new custom Canyon + more on the live blog
Rendel Harris 12 minutes ago

@Robert Hardy The lady was standing on a traffic island in the road giving every appearance of waiting for the cyclists to go by. She then, according to independent eye witnesses, for unknown reasons, stepped out in front of the rider when he was two metres away. Even at 15mph two metres takes 0.30 of a second; the baseline reaction time as employed by the guidance in the Highway Code is 0.67 seconds. To have had that amount of time to react (that's to even start pulling the brakes) the rider would have had to be travelling at 7.5mph. The lady's death was, sadly, caused by her own actions in stepping straight in front of a cyclist who had no chance to stop and would not have done even if he had been going at one third of his actual speed. That's why no criminal proceedings were taken against the cyclist. Just for your information, as you seem to think "it was a road in a public park" is somehow damning, the Outer Circle marks the outer perimeter of the park, and it is a very busy standard London road. The Daily Mail and The Evening Standard tried this "cyclists thundering through a public park" line with pictures of locations in the park where cyclists are banned, it has no validity.

in: Camera cyclist Dave Sherry laughed at by GB News presenters for correctly pointing out speed limits do not apply to cyclists during 20mph ‘debate’
Terry Hutt 36 minutes ago

@mdavidford I think we're conflating two different things here. 1. That the throttle did not cut off at 25kph. We can assume it will never cut out. 2. That the bike is capable of 58mph. Not a valid test with no load. I still hold firm on the nads, though.

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andystow 2 hours ago

@Robert Hardy indeed, just because its rated for 2 kW doesn't mean it's putting that out under no load. They probably looked up the model number.

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mdavidford 2 hours ago

I.e. that wasn't determined as a result of the 'pick it up and rev it' test. It may just mean they got back to the station and looked it up on the internet, or even that it advertised the output on the motor itself.

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Robert Hardy 2 hours ago

It was a road in public park and the spot where she was killed was in close proximity to warning signs to traffic of the need for caution as regards pedestrians. If they had been cycling with due caution it is much more likely that they could have stopped in time and very much less likely she would have been killed.

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Robert Hardy 2 hours ago

Cycles are better than cars per urban mile travelled in terms of injuries contributed to, but not by as much as to justify complacently dismissing the issue. I don't think it unreasonable for cycles to be expected to keep below 20mph in 20mph zones. That is a fair lick by any standards on a bike and considerably faster than the vast majority of other cyclists on the road.

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Robert Hardy 3 hours ago

Not quite sure how he determined the 2kW thats pretty close to the heat output of a 3 bar electric fire, if it wasn't moving to generate sufficient airflow it wouldn't take long to be glowing red! Certainly the motor couldnt demand and output that kind of power without the resistance of the road against the weight of rider and bike and some frighteningly aggressive acceleration.

in: Banned drug driver convicted again… for riding illegally modified 58mph bike (and not wearing a helmet)
chrisonabike 3 hours ago

@mattw "I think we already have a “safety system” on our roads – that interventions are evidence based." Partially. We can - for example motorway design/rules are a fairly good example of a broader "safety first" approach. (Possible exceptions being the removal of some the hard shoulders to add capacity - more on "capacity" later). BUT contrast what happens on other roads. Particularly our "multi-function" urban roads which act as both "places" (parking, lots of pedestrians about) and "routes" (motorists wanting to pass through). Under e.g. the Dutch system that would be a fundamental conflict of interests which would need to be resolved (streets / roads should serve a single function). There is a fundamentally different starting point: the Dutch system starts from "*everyone* can travel *safely*". But baked into the UK system is the notion of "flow of *motor* traffic" being at least as important as safety. Thus it ends up making it OK to provide for vulnerable road users effectively as an afterthought - and particularly at the expense of their convenience, because that motor traffic capacity is one of the most important things. (In the machinery of local government we have all kinds of metrics related to this which ensure that happens e.g. "journey time reduction" etc. which is what Chris Boardman et al. were looking at). This also helps explain why "our roads are relatively safer than other places in Europe in that context" We have achieved safety by literally driving the vulnerable road users off the streets! As many streets have effectively become roads it then becomes logical to all that they are "for" motor traffic, and people should just get in the car. That has become self-reinforcing. And for anyone left who can't / won't it's "well ... take your chances; or use the narrow footway, wait several minutes to cross the road at the lights or descend into the occasional unpleasant and socially unsafe pit of an underpass..." Note that NL road safety is still very good *despite* having a sizeable fraction of the population cycling, including the rather young and old. (Cycling is (in isolation) probably inherently a little more risky that walking - I don't have numbers though). And IIRC it's safer specifically for *pedestrians* there (despite all those dangerous cyclists...)

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