Boy threatened with screwdriver during violent bike robbery; Sainsbury’s delivery driver barges into cycle lane; “Backwards” no cycling signs; Quick-Step duo testify against TV presenter; City bikes a long way from home; Cav beaten + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Sainsbury's delivery driver barges into cycle lane to park in front of cyclist
@but_cyclists you’re shopping is here pic.twitter.com/4iL1GJFZZC
— Adam (@plasticfreeAdam) April 14, 2021
It seems you can now get your Sainsbury’s order delivered straight to your nearest bike lane… I wonder why there’s a cyclist riding in the delivery van parking lane? Some with local knowledge have pointed out this episode is made worse by the fact the Sainsbury’s supermarket is just a two minute walk away…Now, if only there was a bicycle-powered way of delivering shopping that would bypass the problem of trying to park a great big van in built-up areas?
Knowing the area, worth pointing out that Sainsbury’s physical shop is, literally, a 2 minute walk away from here. Obviously accept that not everyone is able to walk and do their shopping, but maybe this would be a great opportunity to trial #cargobike deliveries? @sainsburys
— Simon (@justsimonr) April 15, 2021
UKIP Gammons tries to break 1% with LTN rant
As mayor I will scrap #ltn which are massively increasing congestion and pollution and restore the streets to the people. pic.twitter.com/nwHEmq83aG
— Peter Gammons (@Gammons4London) April 15, 2021
The latest poll from Politico has UKIP London mayoral candidate Peter Gammons on one per cent, so I guess the ‘motivational speaker’ is going all in to break the two per cent barrier…Naturally, his target of choice is LTNs…
This is the same candidate whose big idea for getting London moving was to send cyclists underground. “I want to get London moving again. There are over 2 million miles of unused tunnels, streets, and chambers beneath London. I want to convert these disused spaces into walkways, safe cycle lanes, and create the world’s first underground ‘Pod’ transport system,” he said on his campaign website.
An underground public transport system in London sounds familiar…Unfortunately for Gammons, with one per cent of the vote, that could be quite tricky to implement.
Welcome to Worcester!
Just been for a walk with my dog through Worcester. Such a warm, welcoming and friendly vibe as a result of the new PSPO street decorations! pic.twitter.com/uZkYRuCQ4K
— SHIFT (@goSHIFTscheme) April 15, 2021
Julian Alaphilippe signs new long-term deal with Deceuninck-Quick-Step
Let’s start the day with a bang!
UCI World Champion @alafpolak1 signs a new contract with the team, that will see him ride for Deceuninck – Quick-Step until at least the end of 2024!https://t.co/IrHkVXRc7n pic.twitter.com/Ap5E89AYnY
— Deceuninck-QuickStep (@deceuninck_qst) April 15, 2021
World champion Julian Alaphilippe will be staying at Deceuninck-Quick-Step for the next few years having signed a long-term deal until 2024 with the Belgian outfit. The news follows another of Quick-Step’s stars, Remco Evenepoel, also committing his future to Patrick Lefevere’s team in recent weeks. Alaphilippe has ridden for Quick-Step under their various banners for his entire career and his new deal will run out at the end of his 12th season with the team.
“I’m very happy to extend my stay with the team. It was the logical thing to do, and at no moment there was the question of doing anything different,” the Frenchman said. “I look forward to continuing with this family and I want to say thank you to Patrick [Lefevere, team manager] and the sponsors for the confidence they have shown in these eight years and continue to show. It’s incredible to think of what we achieved together and all the beautiful memories we have.”
Alaphilippe is back racing in the Ardennes Classics at Amstel Gold this weekend after a couple of weeks off after the Tour of Flanders.
Team GB women's pursuit squad to target time not position in Tokyo
Elinor Barker told BBC Sport the uncertainty around the Tokyo Olympics means the GB women’s team pursuit squad will be focusing on posting a good time, rather than position. Having not raced against many of their rivals due to the pandemic, and the likely inconvenience of restrictions, the 26-year-old explained all the team can do is focus on setting a strong time.
“It makes it tricky to put expectations on, but it’ll be the same for everybody. It’s difficult for everybody involved,” Barker said. “Usually at this point in the [Olympic] cycle we’d have a pretty decent understanding of where the rest of the world are and what we need to work on. Whereas we haven’t actually raced some of our biggest competitors for over a year now already.
“That makes it quite difficult to say where we think we are. But we’ve got a very good understanding of ourselves now because we’ve had so long to train. So I think when it comes to goals and targets it’s very much time-based rather than position-based.”
This summer will be five years since the Welsh cyclist won her first Olympic gold, however she is expecting a very different experience in Tokyo. “‘I’m preparing for maximum safety procedures and inconvenience,” she explained. “Then anything from there is just going to be a bonus. Before Rio we were there for 10 days. One of the many rumours I’ve heard is that this year we’ll be allowed five days, then as soon as we race we have to leave.”
Jasper Philipsen beats Andre Greipel and Mark Cavendish to stage six sprint in Turkey
A photo finish 📸
Jasper Philipsen steals the stage win from Andre Greipel in a thrilling sprint finish 🚴♂️💨#TUR2021 pic.twitter.com/GVLh5w7f5p
— Eurosport UK (@Eurosport_UK) April 16, 2021
No fourth stage win for Cav just yet. Philipsen finally got his win, nudging out Andre Greipel in a photo finish. Norwegian Kristoffer Halvorsen was third with Cav fifth after being forced to go the long way around Polish national champion Stanisław Aniołkowski. Fortunately he managed to stay upright after a little coming together on the line…
"Muppets" spotted riding Glasgow city hire bikes on Isle of Arran 50 miles away
Yo, @nextbikeUK. I’ve just seen 2 of your Glasgow bikes in Brodick, on the Isle of Arran. As much as I like to see people on the bikes, these muppets are breaking lockdown rules going outside of the local authority area.
Also, why did @CalMacFerries let them on the boat? pic.twitter.com/1VGAIkD67A— The Avant-Garde Traveller (@AvantTraveller) April 10, 2021
An Isle of Arran resident wasn’t too pleased to see two people riding Glasgow city bikes on the island and accused the pair of breaking travel restrictions. The cyclists were spotted on Saturday in Brodick, the main village on the island more than 50 miles away from Glasgow.
In Scotland the current requirement is to ‘stay local’ and only make non-essential journeys in their local authority area. Nextbike replied to the tweet saying: “Thank you for reporting this. It is against our terms and conditions to take bikes outside of Glasgow. If you recall the bike numbers, we will fine these customers.”
Deceuninck-Quick-Step duo testify against TV presenter
Deceuninck-Quick-Step duo Yves Lampaert and Tim Declercq appeared in court in Belgium this week to testify against actor and TV presenter Melvin Klooster who allegedly assaulted Quick-Step pro Iljo Keisse in a nightclub brawl in 2017. Lampaert and Declercq were summoned along with former teammate Guillaume Van Keirsbulck by Klooster’s legal team to examine “ambiguities” in their witness statements.
The Dutch TV presenter is accused of punching Keisse in the head and knocking him to the ground into broken glass. The prosecution service is asking for a two-year prison sentence if convicted, however Klooster denies he punched the veteran pro cyclist.
Het Nieuwsblad reports Lampaert, Declercq and Keisse all testified it was Klooster who attacked their teammate. “He attacked him from behind. I saw that,” Lampaert apparently told the court. “And no, I hadn’t drunk so much that I couldn’t remember it exactly. Once a year we got permission from the team to go out together. Around 5am I started to gather everyone to go to the team’s hotel in Brussels. We would return by taxi.”
Declercq recalled what happened next. “When we came out, we were faced with a brawl. Two men were kicking and hitting a guy who was on the ground. I was shocked by so much violence. We thought Fernando Gaviria was on the ground, so we intervened by standing around the victim. Then it turned out it was someone else. Iljo Keisse helped the man up.”
The Belgian newspaper reports the Quick-Step riders had a run in with Klooster earlier in the evening after he saw his girlfriend talking to Colombian sprinter Fernando Gaviria. Lampaert claimed this upset Klooster, “it all went very quickly, but I saw him waving his arm and then saw Iljo’s knees give way. He hit his temple.”
A verdict is expected in June with Keisse seeking €90,000 in compensation for a hand injury which forced him to miss the 2017 Gent Six Day.
Boy threatened with screwdriver during violent bike robbery
A 12-year-old boy was threatened with a screwdriver by two robbers in Bournemouth who took his backpack and bike. The child was riding his bike with a friend at around 3.50pm on Thursday 8 April when he was approached by two young males on the corner of Ashley Road and Grantham Road. The Bournemouth Echo reports one the males grabbed the victim’s backpack, pushed him on the floor and threatened him with a screwdriver, before taking his bike.
The two men ran off and the bicycle was found nearby, with police now appealing for witnesses to come forward. “I am particularly keen to hear from the occupants of a small dark red car, possibly a Nissan, that was near to the traffic lights at the time and may have witnessed the incident. We would also like to speak to the driver of a white van, which was driving on Grantham Road around the time of the incident and may have information to assist my investigation,” PC Olivia Holt said.
Information can be passed on to Dorset Police with the reference number 55210055296.
BMX test event postponed due to the pandemic
The Tokyo Olympics organisers have postponed the test event for the BMX freestyle until May or June due to the pandemic. It was scheduled to take place on April 24-25 but has been delayed, the organising committee confirmed in a statement.
“In order to ensure the best level of preparations for these test events and for the Tokyo 2020 Games, considering the schedule of each party under the current global COVID-19 conditions, it was felt that postponing the events was necessary,” the statement said.
Enric Mas-ters summit finish to take Volta a la Comunitat Valenciana leader's jersey
🤜🤛💛 Magnificent teamwork and great attitude put @EnricMasNicolau and the Movistar Team into the @VueltaCV #VCV2021 GC lead with two days to go – an ITT tomorrow to defend this yellow jersey! #RodamosJuntos 📸 @PhotoGomezSport pic.twitter.com/bdddwnzfhD
— Movistar Team (@Movistar_Team) April 16, 2021
Movistar’s Enric Mas won the third stage of the rearranged Volta a la Comunitat Valenciana this afternoon, sprinting to victory at the top of the final climb. Whether his 35 second advantage over teammate Nelson Oliveira and 38 second buffer to Stefan Küng will hold on tomorrow’s 14km flat TT remains to be seen, but for now he is in the leader’s jersey and a first stage win since 2019.
The Run Up: new behind the scenes videos following some of the Women's WorldTour's biggest teams
Keep up with the world’s best cyclists like never before. Introducing The Run Up, a new series that takes you inside the WorldTour’s best teams in the days leading up to cycling’s biggest races.
Soon more! 🎬 #teamsdworx #therunup #therunupseries pic.twitter.com/hzSgCRIuNL
— Team SD Worx (@teamsdworx) April 16, 2021
The Run Up is a new series following the Women’s World Tour’s best teams at some of the biggest races on the calendar. Filmed, edited and released in the days before a race, The Run Up will show how teams prepare for races, starting with the first episode from Liège-Bastogne-Liège nest weekend. Team SD Worx, Trek-Segafredo and CANYON//SRAM racing have all agreed to be followed, opening their doors for some behind the scenes access.
Trek-Segafredo’s British star Lizzie Deignan said she is excited to be taking part. “As a sports fan myself I am always inspired and excited to see the character behind the athlete. I think it’s a really interesting idea to allow women’s cycling fans behind the scenes to get to know the characters within our sport. There are so many diverse and interesting women in the peloton so I am sure it will be a really intriguing series to watch.”
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@Pub bike - well, off-road (ICE) motorbikes have been available for decades, so you're right about the proposed law being too narrow. I've seen scrotes riding them in parks and on the roads, but they're much less common than the newer e-motorbikes.
@hawkinspeter I think my point buried in there somewhere is that the law being devised is too narrowly focused around electric bikes/motorbikes and it should encompass the sale of any kind of motorbike. The wording talks about "electrically assisted" which would seem to exclude throttle controlled bikes. The bikes I saw that had no pedals - and therefore the electricity does not assist but is the sole source of propulsion - would fall outside of this legislation, so already there is a loophole. It would probably help to have some technical input to this bill by people that actually understand the differences between bicycles, e-bikes, EAPCs and motorbikes before it goes too far.
The Streeting Rule is, Cycling and Walking tomorrow and Cycling and Walking yesterday, but never Cycling and Walking today.
It’s a nuanced proposition, for sure. I did start the article with “There are few hills I’m truly up for dying on, but kickstands on bikes is one of them” - and no comment here has changed my mind 😎
@ hawkinspeter you are absolutely right. But of course there is little enforcement, the police don't have the resources etc etc.
@jackcycles - no it reflects the reality that most folk are scared to cycle because of inconsiderate and dangerous drivers. Cycling numbers markedly increase when it is made safe to do so.
"Kickstands make every bike ride better" Can't think of any of my rides in the last few weeks that would have been "better" with a kickstand; a few that *might* possibly have been a bit more of a pain with one (especially with the amount of plant growth at the moment in the South West of the UK), but none it would have improved. So there we go, nice easy proof by contradiction.
I'll be surprised & amazed if all of those billions are actually delivered. I expect to hear, in a few years' time, that only a fraction of that was taken up for various reasons, & the rest was therefore diverted towards other 'number one issues'.
@bensynnock to be fair, there does seem to be a marshall shown in the picture.
@Rendel Harris Going down the hill was usually Ok ish, it was coming back up that was the problem, especially at night. Near the top it narrowed with hedges on a low wall, not somewhere you would chose to ride on your own in the dark. Best time was race days when it is all stationary!
62 thoughts on “Boy threatened with screwdriver during violent bike robbery; Sainsbury’s delivery driver barges into cycle lane; “Backwards” no cycling signs; Quick-Step duo testify against TV presenter; City bikes a long way from home; Cav beaten + more on the live blog”
“Van left wing mirror folded
“Van left wing mirror folded inwards. Sack.” Mr Paunch
Sainsbury’s proves carrots
Sainsbury’s proves carrots don’t help your eyesight…
I don’t think just delivering
I don’t think just delivering them is enough to feel the benefits.
Shhhh… the Luftwaffe will
Shhhh… the Luftwaffe will find out.
UKIP seriously went for a
UKIP seriously went for a candidate called Gammons? Satire is truly dead.
He really looks like he could
He really looks like he could benefit from active travel and I also wonder if his teeth are radioactive?
He has a doctorate from a university that the US education department doesn’t recognise and once claimed to have healed 18,000 people.
He fits right in with UKIP.
I know… I laughed out loud
I know… I laughed out loud when I realised that was actually his name, not a description!
Pretty sure that the
Pretty sure that the Sainsbury’s driver had absolutely no idea that cyclist was anywhere near… I bet the driver would say, “I didn’t realise it was a cycle lane!” as if parking on a footway would have been more acceptable.
brooksby wrote:
Ignorance is a poor excuse. As a driver of a large vehicle:
The Worcester signage says
The Worcester signage says ‘no dangerous cycling’ so presumably for so long as you ride safely you’re fine?
(No, I didn’t really think so).
It says no cycling 10-6 at
It says no cycling 10-6 at the bottom, so outside of that you can cycle responsibly – although I suspect we are both a bit old to pop a wheelie !
surely that 10-6 sign should
surely that 10-6 sign should have a line through it if cycling is prohibited between those times? so not only are the signs aggressive and unwelcoming they are unclear as well. well done the local authorities.
Nope
Don’t see why, it just gives a limit to the restriction
It’s interesting (well, to me
It’s interesting (well, to me) that traffic signs that prohibit something (no vehicles, no overtaking etc) do not have a diagonal bar, whereas official health&safety signs (no smoking) do have a diagonal bar. Different kinds of regulations.
But, question: Given that the “no cycling” sign in this particular form is an official indicator of the traffic rules that apply at a certain place, can they just include these signs without accompanying traffic regulation orders and all the related paperwork like consultations and opportunity for objections?
The rest of the poster is nonspecific, but including an official traffic sign might be legally very dubious as it suggests to naive bystanders a force of law that doesn’t exist.
Traffic sign regulations only
Traffic sign regulations only apply to signs on roads, though, and I’m guessing that paved area is not classed as a road.
mdavidford wrote:
Good point… Altough, you can have signs on footpaths (for example “no vehicles”), so I thought that the laws apply to any public highway, not just motor vehicle roads, although most signs really only make sense on roads.
But I’m not a legal expert, just wondering as I assumed you can’t just put up official road signs without due process.
If it’s not on a road, you
If it’s not on a road, you can put up pretty much any sign you like (unless it falls foul of things like planning regulations), but in and of itself it probably won’t have any legal status, although it might be indicative of an underlying PSPO, byelaw, etc.
A pedestrianised area can
A pedestrianised area can still be a road.
The Road Traffic Act 1988 defines a road as [in England]: “…any highway and any other road to which the public has access…” [s192(1)(a)]. That is somewhat circular, however, a highway is defined in common law as: ‘A highway is a way over which there exists a public right of passage, that is to say a right for all Her Majesty’s subjects at all seasons of the year freely and at their will to pass and repass without let or hindrance.‘ (Halsbury’s Laws 21[1]) – courtesy of planninggeek dot co dot uk.
Traffic sign regulations
Traffic sign regulations apply to all highways, that’s road, footway,footpath and right of way maintained by a highway authority.
Stephan Matthiesen wrote:
It’s not even that straightforward or consistent. Most prohibitory traffic signs do not have a diagonal bar (no vehicles, no overtaking etc) but some do (no left / right / u-turn).
OK, fair enough.
OK, fair enough.
In any case, the graphics are all a bit “down with the kids”, I feel…
(edit: and I have never actually managed to pop a wheelie. In my entire life…).
I popped a wheelie once.
I popped a wheelie once. Front wheel buckled immediately after.
Lesson learned.
OllieB wrote:
was the lesson “stop buying cheap wheels”?
I’m struggling to find the
I’m struggling to find the top two signs in the highway code. I assume the top one is No No Wheelies. Lucky for Danny MacAskill he’d be able to cycle around there all day.
as mdavidson says it’s not a
as mdavidford says it’s not a road, so it is of the form of an official health&safety sign eg no smoking which does have a diagonal bar (see stephan’s comment).
The PSPO specifically says:
The PSPO specifically says:
As a principle, it is poor practice to duplicate existing regulations, but that is, in practice, difficult to avoid. Of course, all of the above exists in legislation for cycling already. Except “excessive speed”, which applies only to motor vehicles in the main, since “excess” has a specific meaning with regard to a defined and applicable limit. However, since no provision is made to define or apply “excess”, it’s difficult to see how they could apply that.
So, a cyclist appears to be free to continue to ride safely along.
The fact that the signage does not conform to the Highway Code is neither here nor there, since it is the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions that stipulates them. But that’s academic, too, since the signage relates to a PSPO, not a TRO. Rules for publicising the requirements of a PSPO are less specific: the detail on the street can be minimal, as long as it tells you where to find the details; and the PSPO applies (subject to legal challenge on specific grounds).
GMBasix wrote:
My question was sort of the opposite of that argument… Is the council allowed to put up signs that normally relate to a TRO (namely, the correct “no cycling” sign) when (or if) there is actually no TRO in place? Is there a TRO?
If it conforms with planning
If it conforms with planning regs or has specific planning permission.
Stephan Matthiesen wrote:
In accordance with the TSDGR: “The sign must only be placed to indicate the effect of an Act, order, regulation, bylaw, resolution or notice which prohibits or restricts the use of the road by traffic.”
So, yes, it can use a sign other than in relation to a TRO, as long as there is another order. (Some signs don’t require an order to have effect, but this isn’t one of them.)
At first glance, then, it appears the sign complies with that requirement in that it relates to a PSPO (an order) that restricts the use the road by traffic…
Except the PSPO does not restrict the use of the road; it restricts the manner in which the use is carried out. Specifically, No Cycling is not a provision that is made in the PSPO. The PSPO prohibits dangerous cycling, excessive speed, and cycling without due care and attention “to others or conditions pertaining at the time”. It makes no reference to a timed prohibition, and you can’t just intepret that 10am-6pm will automatically be conditions that prevent cycling at all.
Moreover, in accordance with TSRGD, the No Cycling sign (951) does not have provision for a supplementary plate, which is what the ’10am-6pm’ bit is.
After all that, there could be a TRO, but there probably isn’t, otherwise that bit of the PSPO would not be necessary. It’s hard to track TROs down – even borough solicitors can have a job identifying older ones. They are not often catalogued on web sites; they are usually piecemeal in their adoption; they are published in a local newspaper or on a web site news page.
Now, all of that takes quite a bit of unpacking — would a warden or copper in the middle of High Street know the ins and outs? Good luck avoiding a ticket in the first place; but it should be defendable if a cyclist decides to argue it in court. Unless they were cycling like a bandit. Or it turns out there is a TRO.
I am not a solicitor and this isn’t legal advice.
Thank you, that was a very
Thank you, that was a very useful explanation!
brooksby wrote:
Yes, safe cycling (and safe skateboarding) is permitted.
But there’s a separate regulation that bans all cycling (safe or otherwise) between 10am and 6pm.
I think I need to run through
I think I need to run through some maths with Gammons. In fact we could turn it in to a GCSE question.
Because of a minor diversion poor Karen is forced to drive an extra mile to get to her destination. Assuming that the average speed of traffic 12mph, If Karen’s journey time is now doubled how far would her original destination have been without the diversion?
For a bonus mark; can you think of a better way for Karen to do this journey?
British cyclists are
British cyclists are naturally not gammon due to our low blood pressure.
Gammons: “I want to get
Gammons: “I want to get London moving again. There are over 2 million miles of unused tunnels, streets, and chambers beneath London”
Wow! 2 million miles, that’s incredible! Ummm, let’s try & figure this out – if each tunnel, street etc is, on average, 2m wide that means there’s 6,440 sq km of unused space beneath London. That nice Mr. Wikepedia says the total area of Greater London is 1,583 sq km, so London is literally floating on air! After 20-odd years living there I’d kind of come to regard London as a hole in ground, but now I discover I was wrong & it’s actually a hole in a multidimensional hyperspace. Puts a whole new perspective on things, quite literally.
Or else, & this might perhaps be more likely, maybe Gammons isn’t much good with numbers. Or thinking more generally I suspect.
oceandweller wrote:
…and with the 100’s of billions in tax revenue he’d need to make it work I suspect he wouldn’t even get the right wing gammon vote for that plan…
EddyBerckx wrote:
Obviously, as Mayor, he’d just make cyclists pay Road Tax (even if they would be paying to not use the roads). Bosh – job done!
oceandweller wrote:
6440 square km, equates to a square 80km by 80km, centreing this square on tower bridge mean the extents would be Stevenage, Basildon, Slough and Crawley.
Of course you are not considering that tunnels can exist at different depths, but even then I don’t see how 4km2 of buried tunnels, roads and chambers could exist for each square km of space.
UKIP candidate lies before election shocker
oceandweller wrote:
He didn’t say “over 2 million square miles” though did he? That’s just a made up quote you’ve attributed to him (not that I thought his suggestion was any good by the way). Maybe he was thinking of sewage pipes.
I mean there are 22 feet of small intestines in the average human adult.
Nigel Garrage wrote:
And Ocean Dweller didn’t mention 2m square miles. That’s just a quote that you made up isn’t it…..
Gammons however did say 2m miles, OD is correct.
I imagine that you are familiar with this website –
https://www.ukip.org/dr-peter-gammons-is-ukip-s-candidate-for-london-mayor
Here is the quote if you can’t find it:
“I want to get London moving again. There are over 2 million miles of unused tunnels, streets, and chambers beneath London. This abandoned network was secretly built by the Ministry of Defence, Post Office, and BT.”
I assume he is talking about
I assume he is talking about this http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20201005-the-uks-rumoured-subterranean-network not that its proven to exist or capable to be a transport network
The point was he made up an
The point was he made up an assumption of surface area that doesn’t hold true under any measurement (not least because he’s comparing the 2d surface area of London to a 3d space, then making up an assumption as to how wide it is without evidence) – it’s far simpler to just say it’s a crap idea.
Nigel Garrage wrote:
I thought the point you were making was that OD fabricated a quote, and attributed it to Gammons. Remember typing that?
Hands up – I misread it
Hands up – I misread it
Quote:
It’s not exactly the Illuminati, is it?
brooksby wrote:
That’s what they want you to think ?
oceandweller wrote:
Why would you assume that though? I’m guessing he’s not big on worrying about how much clearance to give cyclists. You should take your 6 inch pipe for cycling down and be grateful for it!
The thing is…the sort of
The thing is…the sort of “cyclists” who would pop a dangerous wheelie in a busy pedestrain area are exactly the sort of “cyclist” who don’t give a f**k about minor rules they wont ever be punished for.
Normal teenagers in other words*
* Don’t mean to be bad mouthing modern teenagers. Like us back in the day, they are mostly harmless and having a bit of fun
I do mean to bad mouth modern
I do mean to bad mouth modern teenagers. They need to toughen up – school of the hard knocks never did anyone any harm.
Nigel Garrage wrote:
Didn’t your poster boys all
Didn’t your poster boys all go to private school? Very ‘hard knocks”
Nigel Garrage wrote:
‘Hard man’ blather by an anonymous internet troll.
Pathetic. Were you bullied at school Nige?
I’m sure there are many teenagers far tougher, smarter and wiser than you.
No need for abuse, Simon –
No need for abuse, Simon – the road.cc admins take personal abuse very seriously
Abuse? Oh dear.
Abuse? Oh dear.
Or did you mean that the road.cc admin would not look kindly on your trash talking all young people?
There are 2 teenagers in my household and you couldn’t hold a candle to either of them with regards to integrity, honesty and respect for others. But you would surely win an arm-wrestling or beer-drinking contest as neither is ‘tough’ if measured by traditional male ideas of ‘toughness’.
Nigel Garrage wrote:
Isn’t it lucky that you attended the “school of hard knocks”, and so are hardy in the face of such terrible “abuse”
A lesser man would probably be destroyed by Simon’s merciless attack..
Captain Badger wrote:
True – and stoic, in line with our great traditions and monarch.
My comment was merely for fear of Simon overstepping the mark of what is expected here. With a little training, everyone here can benefit from my expertise, wit, intellect and – above all – mental fortitude. After all, cycling is about mental strength as much as physical prowess.
The other year, the teenagers
The other year, the teenagers round us were popping wheelies and deciding to see if they could “tap” the unsuspecting peds in front of them on the back with the front wheel. Although they were from the same area where they ride mopeds and motor bikes on the pavement or road without helmets and other exciting “harmless” things.
I told some lad today to stop
I told some lad today to stop doing wheelies outside the shops, on the pavement, during lunchtime, on a busy high street. He tried to stare me out for some odd reason.
hirsute wrote:
Only sensible thing to do…
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
Correlation causation yada yada.
The real significant factor is that they were cyclists of course
EddyBerckx wrote:
— EddyBerckxFun!? When I were lad we used to live in shoe box in middle of t’road, etc, etc.
If there are 2,000,000 miles
If there are 2,000,000 miles of unused tunnels in London can we put trucks in them please, then cars, then political incompetents of all persuasions.
Chris Hayes wrote:
Of course! But you’ve inverted the entry order.