Police give Ukrainian boy new bike – and receive a flood of anti-cycling and racist replies; “Genius” Lotus bike designer Mike Burrows dies; Dumoulin retires; Viviani’s busy day at Euros; Roglič returns for Vuelta; Bottas on gravel + more on the live blog
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Viviani’s busy day at the Euros: Italian wins elimination race – five hours after finishing seventh in the road race
So @eliaviviani had himself A DAY at the Euros 🤩
Seventh place in the road race this morning. Then in the evening… Gold on the track in the Elimination 👏🤯 #EuroTrack22 🥇 pic.twitter.com/26hO3sG9xy
— INEOS Grenadiers (@INEOSGrenadiers) August 14, 2022
The next time you wake up on a Sunday morning, your legs sore from the previous day’s heavy mileage, and think, ‘I can miss today’s group ride, it’ll be fine’, just take a deep breath and whisper to yourself: WWVD (What Would Viviani Do?).
Because Elia Viviani scoffs at the need for rest and recovery.
It’s safe to say that the 33-year-old Italian made the most of his busy schedule at the European Championships yesterday.
Between 10.30am and 3.00pm, the Ineos Grenadiers rider was representing his country in the 208km-long Euros road race, where he finished a very respectable seventh in the bunch sprint behind Dutch winner Fabio Jakobsen (wearing a sacrilegiously light orange skinsuit). In true Italian-team-at-a-major-championships fashion, Italy’s other designated sprinter, Alberto Dainese, was four places behind his team-mate in eleventh.
Sapevamo che per provare a vincere bisognava fare tutto perfetto, ci abbiamo provato, come sempre! Il 7 posto poi è quello che le mie gambe potevano fare, niente di più. Grazie ragazzi e grazie Italia @Federciclismo pic.twitter.com/C4s0vTmILL
— Elia Viviani (@eliaviviani) August 14, 2022
After the road race, Viviani tweeted that seventh was all “my legs could do, nothing more”. Turns out he was fibbing…
In the five hours following the conclusion of the over four and a half hours-long road race, Viviani had grabbed a bite to eat, put his feet up with a good book (I imagine), and then, by 8pm, donned the rainbow bands of world champion and took to the Munich boards for the Elimination Race… which he duly won, seeing off Germany’s Theo Reinhardt with a blistering acceleration.
Who else but Elia Viviani!? 🥇
The Italian eases to gold in the men’s Elimination race 🇮🇹@eliaviviani | #Munich2022 pic.twitter.com/zPrEhQZ75b
— Eurosport (@eurosport) August 14, 2022
Easy, eh?
Irish rider Sam Bennett, who finished fifth in the road race (so knew just how much it took out of the Italian) was one of the many in awe at Viviani’s powers of recovery:
This is insane!💪🏻🔥 https://t.co/xiA2iycyXk
— Sam Bennett (@Sammmy_Be) August 14, 2022
Just finding out about Elia Viviani’s reasonably tiring day yesterday and my mind is 🤯- what an amazing achievement!
— Ned 🚲 Boulting (@nedboulting) August 15, 2022
Chris Boardman at the start: “I can’t see Viviani lasting long”. 😂
— L (@LessL57) August 14, 2022
So, when you’re next staring at the turbo trainer, contemplating whether you need that extra day of training, just say to yourself: ‘What would Viviani do?’
I’m sure there’s a market for half-rainbow stripes, half-Tricolore wristbands somewhere…
Return of the Rog: Primož Roglič to start Vuelta a España on Friday after recovering from Tour de France injuries
Just when other GC contenders thought it was safe to race in Spain…
After weeks of speculation and uncertainty surrounding his fitness following another horror crash at the Tour de France, three-time Vuelta a España winner Primož Roglič looks set to line up in Utrecht on Friday for the start of the Spanish grand tour, according to his Jumbo-Visma team.
Roglič has been the dominant force at the Vuelta in recent years, winning the last three editions on the trot as well as nine stages, but was a doubt for this month’s race after crashing hard into a stray haybale and dislocating his shoulder during the Tour’s cobbled stage five.
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Despite the severity of his injuries – with some reports, though unconfirmed, suggesting that Roglič had broken two vertebrae – the 32-year-old Slovenian martyred himself for the Jumbo-Visma cause, and proved integral to Jonas Vingegaard’s stunning dismantling of Tadej Pogačar on the Col du Granon, before eventually abandoning with back pain before the fifteenth stage.
Despite only returning to training on the road two weeks ago, Dutch cycling site WielerFlits reported this morning that Roglič would indeed be aiming for an unprecedented fourth straight Vuelta win, a claim that has since been verified by Jumbo-Visma.
According to VeloNews, a call between the Dutch team’s management and doctors this morning concluded with a final decision to back Roglič’s GC bid, after Sep Kuss was touted as a possible alternative in a ‘free role’ if the Slovenian wasn’t deemed fit enough.
Jumbo-Visma’s full Vuelta squad will be announced later this morning, with Kuss and Commonwealth Games time trial champion Rohan Dennis likely to feature.
Rog coming to Spain after all.
Other Vuelta GC contenders: pic.twitter.com/OCLf8A8IGn
— Daniel Friebe (@friebos) August 15, 2022
Not a great morning for Remco, Jai, and Richard then…
Weekend Roundup: From ‘Posh Ronnie Pickerings’ to Roy Keane, Italian motor doping accusations, and North Yorkshire Police finally doing their job…
There was plenty of news on road.cc over the final – final! – scorching hot weekend before the sweet, blessed water begins to fall from the sky (the accuracy of this statement may depend on where you’re currently situated)…
First, we had a long-awaited update to the now infamous Near Miss of the Day 806 (you know, the one with the dog), as North Yorkshire Police has finally admitted that the force’s initial decision not to act on the staggering footage was “wrong” and that an investigation into the incident is now “required”. As someone said on Twitter, it only took some national outrage for them to act, but fair play anyway.
In more ‘killer motorists getting laughably lenient sentences’ news, a speeding lorry driver was sentenced to seven months in prison and banned from driving for a whole 27 months after killing a 71-year-old great-grandfather who was out riding his bike. According to the judge, the motorist, who had previous convictions for careless driving, “just didn’t see him”.
In Edinburgh, a 75-year-old cyclist was angry with the city’s council after they appeared to dismiss his complaint about a particularly dangerous pothole, which he says poses a concern for schoolchildren on their bikes.
And we all finally know what Roy Keane is doing when the absolute shambles that is the current Manchester United side concedes yet another goal away to Brentford… No, not foaming at the mouth uncontrollably like the cartoon character he’s morphed into in recent years, but out on his bike, away from all the manufactured stress and aggro of the Premier League (looking at you, Tuchel and Conte).
Though the Irish legend is at pains to point out he’s “not Sean Kelly”, remember.
No, Sean is a much better pundit, after all…
On Sunday, live blog favourite CyclingMikey made the headlines again, after a hilariously posh, and ever so slightly unhinged, “ex-military” convertible driver took umbrage at Van Erp pointing out his blatant illegal texting behind the wheel.
I’m not sure he was “following the correct protocols” at all, but it did lead some Twitterer to compare our heroic, kerb-hitting friend to a “posh Ronnie Pickering”, which made my day.
Camden Council also said that new protected cycle lanes on Haverstock Hill will benefit both businesses and cyclists, after some local traders (predictably) complained, while over in Italy, a plucky amateur has been accused of motor doping after storming to victory at the Maratona dles Dolomites gran fondo, and doing some dodgy handlebar twitching on the way…
Finally, rugby union pro Ed Slater and author Davy Zyw, who both suffer from motor neurone disease, completed two epic rides to raise awareness and money for MND charities. Fair play, fellas.
“Couples who ride together stay together”: Congrats Mildred!
Big congrats to our very own Mildred Locke, who got married over the weekend… and in some style, I may add.
Now that’s how you do it, folks.
Congratulations Mildred, and enjoy your honeymoon!
“I hope he has a helmet”: Police give Ukrainian boy new bike – and receive a flood of anti-cycling and racist replies
A heart-warming piece of news here, on how bikes can inspire children and help foster community spirit – until, that is, you read the comments on Facebook…
Last week, police in Ribble Valley, Lancashire, shared a post on social media about the work done by the Longridge Neighbourhood Policing Team, who have secured funding to promote sustainable transport in the area.
Using that funding, the team were able to donate a bike to ten-year-old Nikita, a refugee from war-torn Kharkiv, Ukraine, who is now living in Longridge.
“Nikita has already had lots of use of his new bicycle due to this lovely weather, and is very grateful for the opportunity to integrate with other children in the area who already have bicycles of their own,” Ribble Valley Police posted on Facebook.
While many users flocked to the post to applaud the police’s initiative, which one commenter praised for “bringing some joy” during a traumatic period, the more unsavoury elements of British society (rather predictably) reared their unfortunate heads in the comments.
For some reason, a number of Facebook users saw fit to use Nikita’s new bike as an opportunity to bash cyclists and fill out their anti-cycling bingo cards.
Helmets, oddly enough, were a continuous source of discussion in the comments (presumably because anyone who rides a bike must be pictured with their helmet on at all times?).
“Hope they are getting supplied with helmets at the same time,” wrote ‘Lauren Lauren’ (maybe just a massive fan of Arsenal’s early noughties-era right back?), while Carol typed: “Well done. I hope he has a cycle helmet too.”
Alfie concurred: “Great to see but where is his helmet?”
“Wow, can’t believe the police are letting a child ride a bike without a helmet, so irresponsible, shame on them!” wrote another, and Doug demanded that the child “absolutely should be wearing a helmet”.
After countless helmet-related comments, Ribble Valley Police replied that “the helmet was put to one side for the photograph, but the bicycles are distributed with one.”
> Eight-year-old cyclist rides round Richmond Park to raise thousands of pounds for Ukraine
Simon also decided to steer the conversation away from helmets, and onto hi-viz clothing: “Just a suggestion to Ribble Valley Police… It might be a better idea to use some of that fund to buy and give out HI VIZ tops to some of the silly cyclists, old enough to know better, riding around in black/generally dark clothing who are almost asking to be run into.”
As well as Simon’s completely necessary anti-cycling remark (and more than a few sexist jibes aimed by others at the police officer in the photo), Longridge police’s good deed also attracted the ire of the country’s grammar-challenged racists.
“How about giving depraved kids that are British born a bike and a helmet I feel 4 the kid in the Ukraine but charity begins at home,” John wrote, in between spelling lessons.
“Looks deprived in his £80 plus PSG kit. Then gets a free bike too,” raged another commenter, while another claimed that the bike donation proved “the country is a shambles”.
“There isn’t any English children that are looking for their first bike then? This kid doesn’t look like he’s under privileged? More woke signalling by the police makes me so angry!” exclaimed Rob Green (presumably not the former England international goalkeeper, who I once saw in a pub in Manchester…).
Fortunately, not everyone was frothing with gammon-soaked anger at Nikita’s new bike, with many instead praising the initiative for what it is – helping a young lad in a traumatic situation, by giving him the best thing you can give a child, a bike.
A niche pro cycling joke for all the German (and Spanish) speakers out there… because, why not?
Patrick con Rad Patrick sin Rad pic.twitter.com/iHDCNYVNkQ
— Hugo Stoffretter (@ulle_war_sauber) August 14, 2022
“This is a killer”: Matt Page’s London Edinburgh London ride
Ineos, Jumbo-Visma announce Vuelta squads, as Hayter and Turner make grand tour debuts
Grand Tour proven 🤜🤛 Exciting debutants
It’s time for #LaVuelta22
It’s time to meet our team. pic.twitter.com/xphOhUIOSZ— INEOS Grenadiers (@INEOSGrenadiers) August 15, 2022
After an impressive 2022 season, Ethan Hayter and Ben Turner are set to make their grand tour debuts after being names in the Ineos Grenadiers squad for the upcoming Vuelta a España.
The British pair will likely target stage wins while supporting Richard Carapaz’s GC bid, in what will be the Ecuadorian’s final grand tour for Ineos after team principal Rod Ellingworth confirmed his departure in a press release today.
2020 Giro d’Italia winner Tao Geoghegan Hart will also be lining up in Utrecht on Friday, with Luke Plapp, Carlos Rodríguez, Pavel Sivakov and Dylan van Baarle rounding out a strong Ineos team.
Eddie Dunbar – once again – missed out on an Ineos grand tour berth (but at least he’ll finally get his chance at BikeExchange next year, right?).
“Our team for the Vuelta is a really exciting one; a great mix of experience and youth, which we believe will produce some outstanding racing,” Ellingworth said in a statement.
“To have four Grand Tour debutants in Carlos, Luke, Ethan and Ben reinforces the belief we have in the quality of our young riders and we know that they’ll provide fantastic support for Richie in his last Grand Tour with us. All four have impressed in 2022 and this will be the next big step in their development at the very highest level.
“As a previous winner, and having placed second in 2020, we’re looking forward to Richie drawing on that experience and leading the team as the race heads for Madrid, in what undoubtedly will be a very exciting edition of the Vuelta.
“Dylan, Pavel and Tao provide invaluable experience to complete a group we believe can deliver some incredible moments in the final Grand Tour of a brilliant season.
“I know that the riders and the staff will be going all out to finish this part of our campaign on a high, and we look forward to a successful race together.”
🇪🇸 #LaVuelta22
¡𝐕𝐚𝐦𝐨𝐬!🔴 Happy to start a Grand Tour in our home country!🇳🇱
Our team for @lavuelta⤵️ pic.twitter.com/6A8zmowjRs
— Team Jumbo-Visma cycling (@JumboVismaRoad) August 15, 2022
Jumbo-Visma also announced their Vuelta squad today, after confirming that Primož Roglič will once again lead the Dutch team in Spain as he looks to emulate Roberto Heras as a four-time Vuelta winner.
“Primož has of course not had a great preparation, and is not yet completely pain-free,” admitted Jumbo-Visma’s sporting director Merijn Zeeman today. “We have a lot of confidence in him, but we don’t know exactly what he is capable of.”
Mike Burrows, designer of the Lotus bike and “godfather of modern bicycle design”, dies
Mike Burrows, the legendary frame builder and bike designer famed for the groundbreaking Lotus carbon bike that propelled Chris Boardman to victory at the 1992 Olympic Games, has died, aged 79.
Burrows’ iconic collaboration with Lotus not only helped secure Boardman his individual pursuit gold medal, its low-slung one-piece frame – designed in an era when bikes were still almost entirely built from metal tubes welded together – was a revelation, and influenced a whole host of imitators in the 1990s.
In the mid-nineties, Burrows once again revolutionised the world of frame design with his Total Compact Road (TCR) for Giant, with its sloping top tube inspired by the mountain bike world, and which paved the way for all modern road bikes.
Boardman has paid tribute to the man he described as “the godfather of modern bicycle design”:
Very sad to hear Mike Burrows, the designer of the Lotus bike, passed away today. He was the godfather of modern bicycle design and my life would not have been the same without his influence.
— Chris Boardman (@Chris_Boardman) August 15, 2022
Others, such as TT specialist and writer Michael Hutchinson and transport journalist Carlton Reid have shared their own stories:
Sorry to hear this. Mike was a very original thinker, full of ideas, and always happy to talk about bike design and innovation. In fact it was usually difficult to stop him! He’ll be badly missed. https://t.co/u6HtyrqshH
— Michael Hutchinson (@Doctor_Hutch) August 15, 2022
Mike Burrows would call me every month, and always on the landline. That was the only reason I kept the landline. I’ll miss our chats.
— Carlton Reid (@carltonreid) August 15, 2022
Sad to hear that Mike Burrows, designer of the Lotus 108 and Giant’s TCR compact frame among many other things, has passed away. One of my best memories of writing ‘The Race Against Time’ was interviewing him at his Aladdin’s Cave workshop in Norfolk.
— Edward Pickering (@EdwardPickering) August 15, 2022
Lovely weather for ducks: Belgian women’s race cancelled due to flooded roads and stormy conditions
I know, I know, we’ve all been hoping for a drop of rain these past few weeks – though I don’t think the women’s peloton at the GP Yvonne Reynders in Belgium were counting on this much rain:
Superbe victoire de Julie sur le #GPYvonneReynders !
Après une attaque à 78km de l’arrivée alors que la course a été arrêtée à 79km pour une petite pluie… @JulieDeWilde1 @PlanturPura pic.twitter.com/OKniRru18n— MacFly (@MacFly_FR) August 15, 2022
The barriers have been blown over at the finish line!#GPYvonneReynders pic.twitter.com/OdJH7WGZd3
— Mathew Mitchell (@MatMitchell30) August 15, 2022
The race, quite understandably, has been cancelled.
.#gpyvonnereynders afgelast wegens noodweer. Een enorme wolkbreuk met bijhorende windstoten gooit roet in het eten voor de organisatie bij de eerste editie. Jammer! Maar enige juiste beslissing met oog op veiligheid van de rensters en begeleiding. pic.twitter.com/vDq65tQM2h
— FDP (@depaepefien) August 15, 2022
Scottish racer Finn Crockett uses Commonwealth Games bronze medal… to blag some free beer
Finn’s Bronze medal after a such a brutal breakaway where there was so much attacking to leave everyone on their last legs shows how strong the domestic riders are
1. Aaron Gate
2. Daryl Impey
3. Finn Crockett#bikeracing pic.twitter.com/aCCUFBao8F— British Cycle Sport (@VeloUK) August 7, 2022
Now, that’s how you celebrate a Commonwealth Games medal.
Finn Crockett, the 23-year-old Scot who sprinted to third place behind Aaron Gate and Daryl Impey at last weekend’s Commonwealth Games road race, graduated from the University of Stirling just weeks before the race, so celebrated his surprise result in the way only a true student can – by scrounging as many free pints as he possible could.
“It seemed that having one of these gongs around your neck in Birmingham qualified you for free drinks,” the promising Ribble Weldtite rider told the Daily Record.
“I wasn’t saying no and I do confess to a few days of partying at the closing party and the Scotland team party after that.
“It was a brilliant experience for me and I’m still letting it all sink in. In the sprint, I knew I would stand a chance even though the calibre of the opposition was crazy. Half of the Ineos team were in the field and a lot of major professionals.”
He continued: “Competing in the Games and representing Scotland was living the dream but I’m taking it in my stride. I’m just going to try and build on it. My degree would definitely come in handy if I managed to get a move to a big pro team.
“Anyone in my position would probably be dreaming of the Tour de France so who knows what might happen?”
Hopefully Crockett’s bronze medal can score him more than a few gin and tonics…
Formula One driver Valtteri Bottas takes on gravel race
It’s currently Formula One’s summer break (well that’s what it says here, I don’t know), but Alfa Romeo driver Valtteri Bottas – the partner of Canyon-Sram pro Tiffany Cromwell – couldn’t wait until the end of the month to scratch his racing itch.
The 32-year-old Finn raced over the weekend at the SBT GRVL race in Steamboat Springs, Colorado, finishing an impressive fourth on the 60-mile blue course and taking the win in his age group, just four minutes behind the overall winner.
Not to be outdone by a car driver, Cromwell duly won the women’s race on the 100-mile blue course.
The weekend race in Colorado wasn’t Bottas’ first experience on the gravel or with SBT GRVL. In May, he announced that he was teaming up the race organisers to create a new gravel event in Lahti, Finland, called FNLD GRVL, planned for June 2023.
The new gravel race event will offer two distances with a €20,000 pro prize purse and is expected to attract more than 1500 gravel riders from around the world.
“I’ve been riding gravel around my hometown of Lahti, Finland for years, and discovered SBT GRVL in Steamboat Springs, CO in 2021,” said Bottas. “I was impressed with such a world-class event. When Amy Charity and Chris Lyman reached out to me about partnering on a race in Finland, I saw it as a tremendous opportunity to build something similarly special in Lahti.”
“Just waiting for Tadej Pogačar to troll”
The photos you find when digging through the archives 😂 a junior @GeraintThomas86 and a high rise stem before aero mattered. pic.twitter.com/FKisuQ6m7C
— Dan Martin (@DanMartin86) August 15, 2022
That stem…
Just waiting for @TamauPogi to troll. He’s been quiet since @LeTour Must be tired.
— Dan Martin (@DanMartin86) August 15, 2022
Tom Dumoulin retires from professional cycling with immediate effect
I decided to quit professional cycling with immediate effect. Read more📝 pic.twitter.com/mAGMX5olCG
— Tom Dumoulin (@tom_dumoulin) August 15, 2022
This evening marks the end of an era, as 2017 Giro d’Italia winner, former world time trial champion, Tour de France podium finisher and double Olympic medallist Tom Dumoulin has decided to call time on his illustrious career with immediate effect.
The 31-year-old Dutchman, who has suffered with injuries and burn out in recent years (despite securing his second time trial silver medal at the Olympics last year), had originally planned to retire at the end of the season.
But following a training crash in September, and with the tank seemingly “empty” as he built towards one last push at another rainbow jersey in Australia, the Jumbo-Visma rider has decided that now is the right time to draw the curtain on a stellar career.
— Tom Dumoulin (@tom_dumoulin) August 15, 2022
“I decided to quit professional cycling with immediate effect,” Dumoulin said in a statement released today. “About two months ago I announced that I would retire as a professional cyclist at the end of the year.
“During last spring, despite my love for the bike, I noticed that things weren’t going how I wanted. I felt that I was ready for a new phase in my life.
“But, I still had one project on my wishlist to end my career with a bang; the World Championship in Australia. I wanted to tackle that road to the World Championship the way I tackled the road to the Tokyo Olympics. With a sense of freedom, on my terms, with the support of the team and with my intrinsic motivation as the main fuel. That’s what brought me back the joy of cycling back then.
“But I notice that I can’t do it anymore. The tank is empty, the legs feel heavy and the training sessions are not working out as I hoped and I also need to do a good performance and have a good feeling at the World Championship.
“Since my hard crash in training last September, something has broken again. I had to interrupt my efforts to return to my old shape yet again and deal with another disappointment. It was one too many.
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“Even though the farewell didn’t turn out the way I hoped, I look back on my career with incredible pride. I worked hard for it, took a lot of passion and pleasure from it for many years, and delivered brilliant performances. I will never forget that.
“Now it’s time to enjoy other things and be there for the people I love. A big thank you to my team and everyone who supported me during my fantastic career. And a special thank you to my wife, who had my back all these years.”
15 August 2022, 08:40
15 August 2022, 08:40
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, “These groups may be more receptive to localised walking and cycling uptake, especially for recreational trips.” As long as it's not local to them???
It's probably the angle of the the top photo but the rear wheel looks way smaller than the front. And the bike looks about two sizes too small for that rider.
Finally! A new bike with a paint scheme that's not boring.
My Wilier stockist tells me this will also be available as a frameset. I've got high hopes for this one.
@chrisonabike See those white lines mate? That's a Gove Way that is.
My Giant TCR is certainly a bit of an all-rounder. It bats right handed at 5 or 6 and bowls right arm leg spin as well as fielding regularly at backward point. It has just signed a two year contract with Northants.
@ktache You have to realise that Michael Gove, one of the elite, gifted team of Brexit architects, operates on a highly elevated plane of thinking. This leaves a lot less spare brain capacity for functions like coordination and awareness of his surroundings. In fact I once read a column in the Sunday Times that described his jogging style as "...like a nun being chased by a bee...".
Presumably if you've already got a Discovery / Alfa Romeo / Bentley * then the incentive *not* to drive it is small. Particularly if you're in that phase of life where walking is a bit more effort and you've many decades of driving habit under the belt. And ALL the friends, neighbours and relatives drive, without exception. * or in fact any car...
Steady - he might just blow through the lights...
"Accept cyclists"?
81 thoughts on “Police give Ukrainian boy new bike – and receive a flood of anti-cycling and racist replies; “Genius” Lotus bike designer Mike Burrows dies; Dumoulin retires; Viviani’s busy day at Euros; Roglič returns for Vuelta; Bottas on gravel + more on the live blog”
https://youtu.be/MsPNsPUIxeA
No one follows the rules at a traffic light controlled crossing leading to a rather close call.
Not sure why the car in front stopped but the driver in L2 should have not then carried on despite the green light.
A relevant one for cycling is
A relevant one for cycling is at 2′ 50″. Typical example of someone thinking that because another motorist is ‘letting them out’ then they don’t need to check for themselves…
(Honestly, hirsute, I don’t know how you can watch these compilations as much as you do. I can watch about a couple of minutes of the compilation before I want to shout at my monitor!).
The very first clip is
The very first clip is relevant too – after the collision happens, both drivers think that the obvious thing to do is to pull around the corner and dump their vehicles right across the bike/shared path while they sort it out.
It’s only one a week ! I find
It’s only one a week ! I find them instructive and I make a note of some of the scenarios – helped me avoid a collision on a roundabout earlier in the year.
Looks to be queuing traffic
Looks to be queuing traffic in lane 1, so the Merc has stopped so as not to block the crossing. This sort of considerate driving is so rare, the cyclist thinks the lights have changed in their favour.
I don’t think the red Ford was required to stop, you only have to do so if the vehicle in lane 1 has stopped to let pedestrians cross, which they haven’t done. They perhaps carried a bit too much speed into the situation and failed to accomodate the mistake the cyclist made.
Meet Ruby Dashcam. The
Meet Ruby Dashcam. The content creator normally puts a bit of text on with his opinions, sometimes right, sometimes wrong, and occasionaly adds the comments from the submitting person.
This one shows the Police not really being bothered in Gloucestershire, whilst this one has set the commenters off solely blaming the cyclist.
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
To be fair with the second one. The commenters aren’t as harsh and generally anti-cyclist as the UK Dashcams ones seem to be, and most of them aren’t blaming the cyclist for the intial incident, only for continuing to pedal at the car that had already cut him up. I’d be inclined to agree – not his fault, but he could have done a lot more to avoid if he wanted to.
I actually think his bike was
I actually think his bike was an e-bike (speed up the incline and flat pedal shoes etc), so do wonder if he was “pedalling”. But the first comment states “fault was entirely his” which meant the driver pulling out on him took none.
The Ken Owen one? Yeah, I did
The Ken Owen one? Yeah, I did miss that one (I was scanning through looking for timestaps or clip numbers).
Most of the others seem to be saying it wasn’t his fault, but he had plenty of time to avoid if he wanted to, a couple towards the bottom are fully blaming the silver car.
If that clip was posted to UK Dashcams every single comment would be “All cyclists are selfish, entitled bastards. Why don’t they pay Road tax?!”.
Second one they were tsting
Second one they were testing the hypothesis that the police force would only do something if they were hit !
https://nyc.streetsblog.org
https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2022/08/09/city-blames-baby-apollines-parents-for-her-death-because-risks-of-being-a-pedestrian-are-obvious/
JFHC, I was going to ask if
JFHC, I was going to ask if that was real, but nobody could be so callous as to make it up. Great to know that this is what we have to look forward to when Truss finally f*cks the country completely.
In a complete aside, I heard last week that most tory party members, the ones electing our next PM, would overwhelmingly vote for Boris if he was on the ticket. Private Frazer was right; we’re doomed.
I read that Boris has gone on
I read that Boris has gone on holiday (again) and has started moving his stuff out of No 10. So why was it so important to keep him on as ‘caretaker PM’, again…?
Can someone get me whatever
Can someone get me whatever recovery drink Viviani uses, awesome result.
I for one would be supportive
I for one would be supportive of a “Killer drivers getting lenient sentences’ thread, like NMOTD.
It could be sent to Grant Shapps (or whichever incumbent is in charge of DOT) from time to time while he’s thinking about what rules need to be changed to hold dangerous cyclists to account.
I concur.
I concur.
Also, once this is done, it would be nice if the site admins could add a “link to the sh*t sentences thread” button to the ajax-comment-reply-form, to make responding to the troll a bit easier.
That plus a mandatory driving
That plus a mandatory driving medical check at 70 thread.
Since Grant insists on legistlating for “Killer Cyclists” lets push him to do it for Deadly Driving Dodderers too. Its on my todo list to see if the KSI lists are segregated by driver age – whats the betting its a bigger demographic than killer cyclists?
Weren’t the numbers showing
Weren’t the numbers showing that a bigger issue than older drivers was actually terrible teens and twenties traffic? Possibly even just the testosterone twits? Can’t recall exactly but someone will be along with the figures no doubt.
There is always that, but
There is always that, but with youngsters there is always improving by actually growing up and also becoming more experienced.
There is only one way out of that age thing…
Given that those doctory type
Given that those doctory type people have worked out that the brain doesn’t mature until 25, you could make a case for voting, driving and drinking being banned until then.
And having sex too, and
And having sex too, and staying out late, and having a mobile phone, and, and
I look forward to a study
I look forward to a study proving that mobile phones are why brains don’t mature until 25. I mean, it’s not that long ago that teenagers were expected to earn a living. And before they invented radio waves you could send kids up chimneys.
I might be onto something… or perhaps it’s a healthy diet that is the problem.
I’m all for banning drink
I’m all for banning drink-drive-voting at any age.
That sounds more likely.
That sounds more likely. There’s a reason why insurance premiums are so high for young drivers.
In a previous thread someone
In a previous thread someone actually had some figures. I was hoping someone else would remember, is all.
Men’s marathon, 2.01.50ish
Men’s marathon, 2.01.50ish mark, kid on an emtb pulling a fine lurking wheelie!
Is Mildred’s real name Daisy?
Is Mildred’s real name Daisy?
Give us an answer, do!
Give us an answer, do!
Ribble Valley Police are to
Ribble Valley Police are to be commended, and I’m pretty sure the negative comments correlate pretty closely with Mail readership. Not that I’d tar all their readers with the epithets “racist” and “anti-cyclist” but the two do seem a natural fit for that racist, anti-cyclist rag.
Not all deprived children and
Not all deprived children and refugees look like the cast of Oliver. Someone needs to tell the ‘good’ folk of Ribble Valley this simple fact…
I think that contrary to the
I think that contrary to the views expressed the Gammons would be equally pissed off if the police were dishing out bikes to the local poor folk (or as they would have it “scroungers”). Still,at least the lad hasn’t nicked their jobs – presumably they are taking a break from their new found careers in bean-pulling and potato-picking to Tweet.
The racist Gammon with the
The racist Gammon with the shit spelling is in Devon, apparently…
The people whining about the
The people whining about the cute little kid being used for some nice Virtue Signalling by the cops, talking about the underpriviledged kids who are missing out because this kid gets a bike…guarantee the whiners are not spending anything helping them out either. They never do, uncharitable moaners. Pick a different Woke cause to fight against fellas, this isn’t the one.
Then again, if it’s anything like the billions of dollars of weapons being donated to Ukraine, I’m amazed the kid got more than a set of handlebars and a wheel.
Reports are that around 70% of the weapons being funnelled to the Ukraine by the US, UK, etc. are being siphoned off before the border, onto the black market for arms trade quicker than you can say Dark Web “3 Brimstone Missiles please”.
Roulereo wrote:
Citation required for ‘reports’ like that.
Sniffer wrote:
I imagine Roulereo saw it on Fox News…
More likely the next source
More likely the next source down that Fox and certain Republicans get their news from, 4Chan (Or does Roulero reckon Hideo Kojima did assasinate Abe?)
Also, his first paragraph, is it just confusing or is he actually calling racists and sexists Woke as they are the only ones being reported as “whining” about the kid who got the bike?
Hey, according to the
Hey, according to the towering intellect that is about to be our new prime minister, our civil service is both woke and antisemitic.
Cheese.
Very common to be Woke and
Very common to be Woke and Anti-semetic. “The rise of Woke Anti-semitism” Wall Steet Journal. Campuses are full of anti-semites reading The Guardian.
Roulereo wrote:
CNN actually. Oh..
CNN actually. Oh..
Happy to point out that it is just as easy to laugh at the Woke virtue signallers with “I stand with …(insert latest cause)” in this case the Cops, as it is to laugh at the fat angry cabbie (although racist is pretty weak, stupid sure). I guess it’s confusing when you rush to judgement or stand blinkered on the one side eating up the narrative you are fed.
Probably even more confusing to see the Met at Hampshire in an embarrassing effort to arrest an army Vet for posting a meme on social media for “causing anxiety”, while ignoring every NMOTD on here.
I replied on another thread
I replied on another thread strand of yours. There is concerns that arms (from both sides) will get sold on as the war ends. Some of the more extreme mentions do seems to have been from Soviet news sites first. However, none mention that 70% of all weapons don’t even reach Ukraine which is your opening statement. Point to that news story and I will investigate like I did your others.
Also I can’t get a hit on CNN documentary shelved apart from one that had planned back before the war started. So any pointers to find info for that would also be useful.
As for your still confusing effort on the story that started this. So stating the Police did a good thing is Woke Virtual Signalling?? So I better not praise them for directing me somewhere?? And not many people currently like the Met at the moment, I suppose arresting someone well out of their jurisdiction will not help matters.
Roulereo wrote:
Um, no – it was confusing whatever your views on the subject, because you’ve misused the term to mean something it doesn’t*, and your original sentence structure made it unclear whether you were applying it to those supporting the police’s actions, or those complaining about them. That’s all.
[*Although it’s so misused and abused on all sides now that it more or less has no meaning any more.]
Website won’t allow pasting
Website won’t allow pasting link but back in April, Biden’s fansheet CNN had an article with the headline “What happens to weapons sent to Ukraine?” The US doesn’t really know”.
Similarly articles like “Ukraine sells weapons on black market due to limited ability to use” or even (shock horror) one of the biggest warmonger rags The Guardian had a story in June quoting the head of Interpol “Arms sent to Ukraine will end up in criminals’ hands”.
Conspiracy theory right? Pfft…
Roulereo wrote:
Yeah, sure
They might have locked down
They might have locked down the ability to post links until a certain posting threshold has been met due to the recent spates of sports offerings. Whether that means the text can’t be posted I couldn’t say.
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
I think you’re being over-charitable. I’d expect a media-savvy individual such as Roulereo would be able to deftly route around any censorship that Road.cc allegedly imposes.
All those articles (that don
All those articles (that don’t originate from Russian supporting sources) state arms could be sold “from both sides” after the war is ended. Not one has mentioned that only 30% of the arms are ending up in fighting hands and not even reaching Ukraine. Weirdly you don’t seem to condemn Putin in any of your comments about warmongering.
Not weird, when it’s obvious.
”Because of your browser settings..’
2 June 2022 The Guardian: “Arms from Ukraine will end up in Criminals hands”, Head of Interpol Jurgen Stock said “the criminals are even now focusing on them”
13 July 2022 Financial Times: “The Russian war of aggression in Ukraine has resulted in the proliferation of a significant number of firearms and explosives in the country”, Europol said in a briefing note to governments.
Zelensky is completely inappropriate to be a war time commander, he was a comedic actor five minutes ago and appointed his make up artist and producer as Ministers, has just freed a child rapist Neo-Nazi commander Ruslan Onichenko to join his forces, etc. Zelensky has no intention of tracking arms, he’s too busy grfiting for money internationally. Why would anyone with half a brain not think this is a problem? If you thought Tony Blair was a war criminal for Iraq, how biased do you have to be not to have the same view on Putin and Zelensky?
Not weird to not bother castigating Putin, when it’s obvious. Nothing to add, he’s a psychopath, power hungry dictator, etc. Add whatever you like, but the fact is he wasn’t such a threat when the Orange man was facing him. It’s clearly not a case of good v bad, you can’t just pick a side and blindly cheer them on, regardless of what the corporate media sells you about Ukraine, or the Twitterati want you to think.
But starting WW3 isn’t the way to deal with this. Neither is feeding a grifter with billions in Euros and arms for a proxy war in which his only strategy is to drive the Ukrainian population to the cliff and be wiped out. Just like the more sanctimonious types here, it’s just meaningless point scoring and snarky asides.
https://www.theguardian.com
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/02/ukraine-weapons-end-up-criminal-hands-says-interpol-chief-jurgen-stock
Archive.org version of FT (to avoid paywall): https://archive.ph/Hb8aF
And has I or many others have
And has I or many others have pointed out to you, none mention 70% of them don;t get into Ukraine which is the claim you made that is being questioned. As for the line you quoted from FT, a war has meant a large number of weapons in a country. Well I never, whatever next? Or did you think proliferation meant stealing. Nah that is pilfering.
Read the Guardian article
Read the Guardian article (the text, not just the headline):
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/02/ukraine-weapons-end-up-criminal-hands-says-interpol-chief-jurgen-stock
… and it’s a good point. However it’s just something everyone should ideally be thinking about more – what happens to weapons AFTER CONFLICTS FINISH (as Rendel pointed out)? I think this is worth note as although there’s awareness of the need to “demine” – which is more properly to remove all explosive remnants of warfare – ending a conflict is about much more than this. Especially if there’s been any “civil war” component. A good quote on this is from the Transforming Arms into Tools project in Mozambique – “The purpose of the project is to disarm the minds of people and to disarm the hands of people.” Although some people may find *this* statement triggering! (They should recall it’s been quite a while since their civil wars though…)
What happens to weapons after
What happens to weapons after a conflict is definitely difficult.
Closer to home it was a long standing issue in NI after the Good Friday Agreement.
The newspaper articles don’t support the initial claim.
Roulereo wrote:
You’ve (obviously completely accidentally) left out the bit that doesn’t support your claims that the Ukrainians are selling arms now…
The’re not being deliberately
The’re not being deliberately selective in the conspiracy theorising are they?
Or the weird YouTube channels that have been telling them what to think have been…
ktache wrote:
Please don’t mock those of us who enjoy ‘weird YouTube channels’.
I was very nearly convinced the earth is flat the other day and the Queen definately has an air of lizard about her!
NOtotheEU wrote:
Wasn’t “air of Lizard” one of the official titles of the Andrew Formerly Known As Prince? Or that’s what it sounded like pronounced in R.P.
chrisonatrike wrote:
Wouldn’t he have been the Spare of Lizard?
CNN mysteriously advertised
CNN mysteriously advertised its documentary last weekend in the US online, then has pulled it. It had on the ground clips and interviews of the mess of people shipping arms in private cars, then disappearing, etc. It must have angered the ultimate war grifter Zelensky, Biden and his mates in the arms trade etc.
That’s the only reason
That’s the only reason documentaries ever get pulled, it’s never because (for instance) the channel’s lawyers have assessed that some of the claims they make might not be defensibly true or because their sources turn out to be at best useful idiots.
This from businessinsider.com
This is from business Insider, & it’s a CBS documentary not CNN.
CBS partially retracted a documentary in which it said that shipments of weapons to Ukraine from the US had been going missing.
CBS tweeted on Monday that it had removed a video promoting the documentary that included a months-old quote saying most aid was not making it to Ukraine’s front lines.
It said it was updating the documentary, called “Arming Ukraine,” with “new information” about the delivery of military aid to Ukraine.
Among the material removed was a quote the founder of pro-Ukraine nonprofit Blue-Yellow, Jonas Ohman, who said in late April that only around 30% of aid was reaching the front lines in Ukraine.
CBS said that “Since that time, Ohman says delivery has improved.” It also noted that the US had sent an official — Brigadier General Garrick M. Harmon — to Kyiv specifically to monitor the use of military aid.
“We are updating our documentary to reflect this new information and air at a later date,” CBS said.
And this is the (recently updated) CBS article where the 70% claim came from.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-military-aid-weapons-front-lines/
I’m not sure it really supports one side of this current argument or the other, just more worrying information for us to read in our comfy chairs far away from the death and destruction.
My take on it is the weapons manufacturers and their shareholders don’t really care who gets their hands on them as they have already been paid for and they won’t be on the receiving end of them, or the return fire.
Also worth noting for clarity
Also worth noting for clarity of what we’re talking about that the person who gave the quote in question was referring to ‘military aid’, not specifically arms, and their own experience was explicitly in ‘non-lethal military aid’ – so they’re more likely to mean equipment, supplies, etc. than weapons.
In Breaking News today:
In Breaking News today:
Alot of people on the Facebooks are gammony devotess of the Daily Mail and are utterly thick and racists.
And drivers in convertible cars are quite often tossers.
Driver entitlement !
Driver entitlement !
Blue flag beach !
Is there not a nearby car
Is there not a nearby car park for the tourists? And did the tourists not consider this thing we have called “the tide”?
The carpark was full, what do
The carpark was full, what do you expect them to do? Park slightly further away and walk? Preposterous.
And they’d have had to pay –
And they’d have had to pay – imagine that after you’ve already dished out your monthly £360 payment, £80 of fuel and other cheapskate driver whinges.
The spring tide seems to have caught out a few.
the car park is the beach,
the car park is the beach, its just a thing they do in Ireland, and although the one we went on near Portrush (NI) was owned by the National trust which might have had an impact, you did actually pay if you wanted to drive onto the beach, its a very weird thing as cars do get stuck, and get caught out by the tide, and yet they never seem to learn from it.
brooksby wrote:
— brooksbyI’m sure they considered it, but hadn’t realised quite how anti-car it was, and how it had joined the war on motorists. I fully expect headlines like that in the DM.
EDIT; Car drivers are Canutes.
eburtthebike wrote:
Are you sure that’s how it is spelled?
Don’t be a silly Knut.
Don’t be a silly Knut.
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‘police in Ribble Valley donate bike to young lad.’
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You wavering, WJTS? Having any second thoughts?
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Nah, didn’t think so!
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Flintshire Boy wrote:
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You able to see
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That just because the Longridge Neighbourhood Policing Team
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Did something brilliant
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That doesn’t actually excuse
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The Lancs police video submissions review team
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Not doing its job properly
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Flinty?
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Nah, didn’t think so!
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Great story to see Lancashire
Great story to see Lancashire police giving out free bikes but I would rather they stick to the day job of actually upholding the law and attending when you need them. I have been fobbed off time and time again after almost being hit, and actually being hit by motorists whilst cycling. Even supplying footage and sitting down in front of them showing the footage gets a lame response. Not a priority, not in the public interest, haven’t got time, better things to do, blah, blah. All these excuses have been used.
I see they secured funding, I hope it was all funded from donated money, and not from the money I begrudgingly give them out of my council tax for a complete non-service.
This is by no means calling the young lad, who is in a strange country away from family, I work with a Ukrainian and they are having a shit time. I have helped my work mate where I can, we all have dug in for him and his relatives. I feel for him.
No, this is about wrong priorities. Before anyone has a go at me, I used to be a Lancashire police volunteer, I worked with them for years, my father used to work closely with them when I was young, so got to personally know every police officer at all the stations around. In the 70s/80s they were completely different, I wouldn’t lift a finger to help them now as I have no respect for them any more because, by and large, they are useless.
When we had an attempted burglary and someone tried to force our garage and house windows, they couldn’t even be bothered to come out, even though there was a beautiful hand print on the wall.
Come on WTJS, where are you?
I don’t mean to brag, but I
I don’t mean to brag, but I will. The reason Valtteri got 4th at SBTGRVL is because a 15-year-old kid won the 3-up sprint for 2nd place. Since that kid is my son and doesn’t read road.cc, it’s up to me to let everyone know. Also, my kid reports that Valtteri is a super nice guy and is a hell of a descender. The course was the Red, not the Blue as noted above.
“Fortunately, not everyone
“Fortunately, not everyone was frothing with gammon-soaked anger at Nikita’s new bike”
You had me on side until you decided to speak about intolerance and racism towards the Ukranian lad with mild racism Road.cc. Unacceptable.
Jenova20 wrote:
I’m not seeing the racist bit – do you mean the use of ‘gammon’? That’d be complexion-shaming, not racism.
hawkinspeter wrote:
It’s a racist insult levied at white males, usually for being conservative or assumed to be conservative. Targeting or insulting someone for their skin colour is racist. It’s not acceptable.
Jenova20 wrote:
I disagree that it’s racist as it wouldn’t be used against white males/females that didn’t hold certain political views. Also, I can imagine it being used against people with darker skin tones that hold the same political persuasion, though I can’t think of an example.
I don’t particularly like the term myself as it’s calling out people based on physical characteristics which is not something that people can control. I’d prefer to use terms that address their lack of thinking or selfish attitudes (e.g. ‘idiots’ or ‘NIMBYs’).
For the same reason I don’t
For the same reason I don’t find the term White Privilege to be racist.
(Or Cracker)
They are a response to the oppressor not a denounciation of the oppressed or out group.
That, and because Lawrence Fox thinks it is so it must be wrong.
What happened to him? He was so good in Lewis.
And Neil Oliver, I really liked the way he pronounced Stone.
ktache wrote:
I’d slightly disagree with you on that as I don’t think racism necessarily has to be based on oppression (though it usually is). If a term is used purely based on the skin colour/tone/ethnicity then I’d consider it to be racist.
“White privilege” I’d consider to not be racist as it wouldn’t be used to describe extremely poor and disadvantaged white people and it’s pretty much a reflection of past (maybe current too) racist policies, so it’s a self-selected label (c.f. the black power movement).
A counter example would be when residents of hot-chili loving countries deliberately serve mild food to white-skinned tourists as they assume that white people don’t like hot food – not based on oppression, but somewhat racist (not that I’d take offense to it, I’d just ask for more chillies).
Jenova20 wrote:
Only it’s not for their skin colour but for their habit of “wattling” or going puce in the face with outrage when faced with “political correctness gone mad.” Normally a result of overindulgence in port wine, roast beef and other blood-pressure-raising comestibles. Nothing to do with being white per se.