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Christopher Hall
Peter Sagan bike clean (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

“Here’s a man who never buys his own bearings”: Peter Sagan pressure washes his poor Specialized…and people aren’t happy; Cereal offender; How to watch our James May interview; School bike buses + more on the live blog

Is it a mirage or is it actually Friday? Warm up for our special Drink at your desk Friday with James May at 4pm by joining Dan Alexander on the live blog…
  • by Dan Alexander
Fri, May 13, 2022 08:07
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SUMMARY

  • "Here's a man who never buys his own bearings": Peter Sagan pressure washes his poor Specialized...and people aren't happy
  • Yesterday's Giro stage...
  • Cereal offender: police crack down on reckless driving after woman caught eating bowl of cereal
  • 4pm road.cc YouTube: we talk to James May for Drink at Your Desk Friday
  • Bike buses: the best way to get to school
  • POLL: Is pressure-washing your bike okay?
  • What could possibly go wrong? 'Celebrities' try track cycling for ITV's The Games
  • You've convinced me...
  • Happy Global Baggies Day
  • 'Cyclist' or person who happens to be riding a bike?
  • Tom Dumoulin tries, and tries again, to shift breakaway companions
  • James May talks bikes! | Drink at your desk Friday
  • Koen Bouwman wins stage seven of the Giro d'Italia
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13 May 2022, 08:07

"Here's a man who never buys his own bearings": Peter Sagan pressure washes his poor Specialized...and people aren't happy

Pressure pushing down on me
Pressing down on you, no bike ask for
Under pressure that wears a bearing out
Splits an S-Works in two
Puts grease on streets…

Making sure my @iamspecialized beauty is fresh and clean before we fly to Utah for a long training session!@TeamTotalEnrg @TotalEnergies @sportful @ride100percent pic.twitter.com/GjtMK1x35g

— Peter Sagan (@petosagan) May 11, 2022

Peter Sagan is doing some of that sponsor-plugging that pro riders love to do (yesterday, Quick-Step Alpha Vinyl suggested Julian Alaphilippe could only begin his rehab on Tacx rollers) …

Anyway, the three-time world champ has outdone the two-time world champ…sharing a video of him jetting his S-Works clean of all dirt (and grease) after a ride. He’s jetting off himself too…heading to Utah for “a long training session”. That kind of makes it sound like he’s going to do one seven-day endurance ride and then head home…but we’re not here to question Sagan’s training, only his bike washing…

Anyway, the reaction to the vid was pretty predictable…

Are unlimited bottom brackets part of your contract?!

— Euan Gordon (@EuanGordon1) May 11, 2022

Luckily for you your mechanic will be replacing those bearings.

— Jay (@Mtnbiker15) May 11, 2022

Those poor bearings pic.twitter.com/AhiCh04W4Y

— Mellow Velo (@m3llowvelo) May 12, 2022

I’m so glad you are not cleaning my Specialised Tarmac bike!

— Paul Jefferies (@jefferies918) May 11, 2022

I guess when your bike only has a lifespan of a year before you get a shiny new one, it doesn’t really matter what you do to it…

Case for the defence?

Imagine an entire thread of comments telling a professional cyclist how he should be washing his bike 💀

— Devin Columbus (@dcolumbus) May 12, 2022

13 May 2022, 08:07

Yesterday's Giro stage...

The peloton today#Giro105 pic.twitter.com/N6K6yiNJSY

— Cycling What Ifs 🤌 (@cyclingwhatifs) May 12, 2022

At least today we should get some action…

196km and 4,500m of vertical gain…this could get interesting…

💗 Giro d’Italia 2022 💗

🚴‍♂️Stage 7⃣ | 🚴‍♂️ Tappa 7⃣
📌 Diamante – Potenza ⭐⭐⭐⭐
📏 196 km
⏰ Start / Partenza 11.40 AM
🏁 Arrival / Arrivo ~ 5.15 PM
📺 11.40 AM @raisport – 11.30 AM @Eurosport_IT
📊 Live: https://t.co/fXV9eXe6s2

Powered by @ENIT_italia#Giro pic.twitter.com/YAWuyDTC6z

— Giro d’Italia (@giroditalia) May 13, 2022

Bad news for Cav, not that he’d be winning today anyway, but leadout extraordinaire Michael Mørkøv has abandoned the race after developing a fever overnight… 

13 May 2022, 08:07

Cereal offender: police crack down on reckless driving after woman caught eating bowl of cereal

13 May 2022, 08:07

4pm road.cc YouTube: we talk to James May for Drink at Your Desk Friday

Apologies if you’re sick to death of the reminders…

James May talks bikes! | Drink at your desk Friday: We’re chatting to James May, star of Top Gear and The Grand Tour, in this episode of Drink at Your Desk Friday. Settle in with a beer and hear James’ thoughts on bikes, and there are many!

And for a teaser of what to expect…James May: “I can’t stand road sectarianism – it’s all b*llocks”

13 May 2022, 08:07

Bike buses: the best way to get to school

Second cycle- this morning, school bike bus from Gheluvelt Park up to @North_Worcester absolutely brilliant- children and grown ups were fab and drivers were generally considerate 😊 loving the growing active travel community @BikeWorcester pic.twitter.com/6PQqhOEFuv

— Playful_Lists (@PlayfulLists) May 13, 2022

13 May 2022, 08:07

POLL: Is pressure-washing your bike okay?

PollMaker

As with seemingly everything in cycling, nobody can agree if jet-washing your bike is safe or not. Does it blast out all that much-needed grease? Or, if it’s good enough for the pros is it good enough for you?

13 May 2022, 08:07

What could possibly go wrong? 'Celebrities' try track cycling for ITV's The Games

ITV’s The Games, an attempt at entertainment — involving ‘celebrities’ competing against each other in sporting challenges — was back on the telly last night. And this week they had their female celebs racing a Keirin on the track at the Lee Valley Velodrome (kind of disappointed they didn’t choose the Madison to be honest). What could possibly go wrong?

It was (perhaps unsurprisingly for six people who have presumably never ridden on a velodrome before) an absolute crash fest…

Eventual winner Chelcee Grimes had fallen before the race even got underway, then there were another couple of crashes once the derny was up and running. In a who’s who of who the beep are you? Christine McGuinness came second while Olivia Attwood and Lucrezia Millarini both crashed out…

At least the viewers are enjoying the show…

ITV The Games. I need a F**king medal for enduring an hour of that shite!! Can’t take anymore. Absolute pile of steaming 💩💩

— John Branning (@jbrann85) May 9, 2022

God knows ITV have some terrible programmes but The Games really takes the biscuit. Would rather hang the TV out the window and watch the aerial.

— David Shand (@MrYelmorbSD) May 9, 2022

13 May 2022, 08:07

You've convinced me...

If you’re not watching the Giro, you should be!

— Daniel Lloyd (@daniellloyd1) May 13, 2022

Not that I needed any convincing to be fair…we’ve been glued to stage seven…

Moments ago, and with 139km to go, Richard Carapaz, yes, GC favourite Carapaz was in an attack with Mathieu van der Poel and teammate Jhonatan Narváez. They’re back in the peloton now, but it’s that sort of day…get it on asap…

13 May 2022, 08:07

Happy Global Baggies Day

 
 
 
 
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 Endura has launched Global Baggies Day to remind us all to chill out and not take life so seriously…

 
 
 
 
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Hearing that particular message from retired pro racers living our dream may seem a little preachy, so have a read of our sister site off-road.cc for our take on what it’s all about…

 In short: “Global Baggies Day is meant to be an irreverent rallying cry for everyone, including ourselves, not to take life’s more minor trivialities too seriously, especially when there’s plenty of genuinely serious stuff to worry about at the moment. 

“So, whenever we catch ourselves fretting about the unnecessary, take a breath, and come and join us on May 13th for a ride in baggy shorts instead – a wee reminder that life’s too short, not baggies, so let’s enjoy it,” James Russell-Watson, Head of Marketing at Endura, said. 

13 May 2022, 08:07

'Cyclist' or person who happens to be riding a bike?

As a cycling news website which reports on crime and wider road safety issues, we often have to ask ourselves a question when deciding whether or not to run a story: is the person a ‘cyclist’ or just somebody who happens to be using a bike at that time?

At risk of delving deep into a semantics rabbit hole, there is, it seems to us, some cases when a person may be given the ‘cyclist’ tag, and others when another title might be better suited.

For example, a bank robber fleeing the scene of a crime by bike wouldn’t be something we’d report on…they’re a bank robber not a cyclist, even if they were riding a bike.

Where am I going with this? Well, we’ve seen a couple examples this week on social media and other news websites…

Please be aware of your surroundings. We have had reports of snatches of mobile phones in Hyde Park by cyclists as they pass pedestrians, especially on the footpaths where cycles are not permitted.

— Royal Parks Police (@MPSRoyal_Parks) May 11, 2022

Would “thieves riding bicycles” be better than “cyclists”? Probably. Does it even matter? I’d be interested to hear what you think…

Question, did you consider using ‘thieves on bikes’ rather than ‘cyclists’ or not?

— TK421 (@TK421VELO) May 12, 2022

Because they’re on a bike. Next question?

— Jane Chapman (@JaneyCMJ) May 11, 2022

Please be aware of your surroundings. We have had reports of snatches of mobile phones in Hyde Park by people riding bicycles as they pass pedestrians, especially on the footpaths where cycles are not permitted.

— Herzberg (@herzberg19) May 11, 2022

Elsewhere this week, the Metro ran a story titled: ‘Cyclist fined for using bank cards in wallet stolen by fox and dropped in street’. Admittedly your first question about that headline may be to do with something other than an erroneous noun…

Yes, Qasim Hussain was riding a bike when he found the wallet, and rode to the shops to use the card. Does that make him a ‘cyclist’? I’d argue not.

If you’re still reading this then you deserve some sort of award, but I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on the matter. It’s one we deal with every day, but writing news stories and live blogs all the time can be a bit of a wood for the trees situation…some fresh perspectives would be gratefully received…

13 May 2022, 08:07

Tom Dumoulin tries, and tries again, to shift breakaway companions

🇮🇹 #Giro

We’re approaching the last categorised climb and @koenbouwman & @tom_dumoulin are still part of the breakaway. Gap between the leaders and the peloton is four minutes ⏱️

🏁 37 km pic.twitter.com/D1hgch9cBm

— Team Jumbo-Visma cycling (@JumboVismaRoad) May 13, 2022

29km to go…Tom Dumoulin and Jumbo-Visma teammate Koen Bouwman are at the head of the race alongside Bauke Mollema and Davide Formolo. On the final climb of the day and holding a three and a half minute advantage, it seems they’ll stay away until the finish. Who will win? One of the three Dutchmen or an Italian?

Dumoulin’s just launched his third attack of the climb, countered by compatriot Mollema. The next hour or so will be very interesting…

13 May 2022, 08:07

James May talks bikes! | Drink at your desk Friday

13 May 2022, 08:07

Koen Bouwman wins stage seven of the Giro d'Italia

Koen Bouwman wins stage 7 with some huge power in Potenza! ⚡ The Jumbo Bees got it right. 👏🐝 #Giro pic.twitter.com/o55sdpkVZZ

— Mihai Simion (@faustocoppi60) May 13, 2022

In the end, Tom Dumoulin was on teammate duty for faster-finishing Koen Bouwman on the eight per cent ramp to the finish line at the end of stage seven. Bouwman easily beat Bauke Mollema and Davide Formolo, and also took the KOM jersey on the road too. 

Dumoulin got his arms in the air to celebrate too, crossing the line a few seconds back in fourth. No significant changes to speak of in the GC group, in fact, no changes at all. That should change over the weekend: tomorrow is an exciting-looking circuit race around the hills of Naples, Sunday takes the riders up Blockhaus…who’ll still be in the race for pink come the second rest day?

13 May 2022, 08:07

Could you have kept up?

“Maybe the easiest race I’ve ever done”: Pros enjoy relaxing Giro d’Italia stage six… but could you have kept up?

“Maybe the easiest race I’ve ever done”: Pros enjoy relaxing Giro d’Italia stage six… but could you have kept up?

Yesterday’s 192-kilometre stage, won by Arnaud Démare, finished half an hour later than the race organisers’ slowest projected time

13 May 2022, 08:07

Following on from yesterday's angry people in local newspapers...

Business owners claim Tour of Cambridgeshire will cost them £10,000

Business owners claim Tour of Cambridgeshire will cost them £10,000

“A lot of effort and consideration goes into minimising the disruption caused,” say the event’s organisers

13 May 2022, 08:07

Free e-bike loan scheme launched with £8m of government funding

Free e-bike loan scheme launched with £8m of government funding

'Cycling made e-asy' scheme will provide people with e-bikes for up to three months

13 May 2022, 08:07

Near Miss of the Day 768: Driver squeezes between two cyclists – but only receives warning letter as rider didn’t “swerve”

Near Miss of the Day 768: Driver squeezes between two cyclists – but only receives warning letter as rider didn’t “swerve”

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Dan Alexander
Dan was the road.cc news editor from 2022-2026. He joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan mainly wrote news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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25 thoughts on ““Here’s a man who never buys his own bearings”: Peter Sagan pressure washes his poor Specialized…and people aren’t happy; Cereal offender; How to watch our James May interview; School bike buses + more on the live blog”

  1. Carior
    May 13, 2022 at 8:49 am
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    The case for the defence is

    The case for the defence is GCN’s video Should You Jet Wash Your Bike? 

    For those that can’t be bothered to watch the video – if you try really really hard and blast your bottom bracket really solidly from about an inch away from the inside of the crank consistently for a few minutes you can start getting some water ingress (they did 85s with no ingress – only after smashing for 2 minutes solid, and 3:25 in total, did they get ingress).  So yea, for me the healthy dose of perspective is if you try to get water into your bearings with a pressure washer, you can probably manage it, but if you aren’t actively trying to break your bike, it seems like you probably won’t.

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    • IanEdward
      May 13, 2022 at 9:48 am
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      I dunno, my purely anecdotal

      I dunno, my purely anecdotal and unscientific evidence is that our old fleet of demo bikes in our shop (Specialized funnily enough) seemed to always come back from days at trail centres suspiciously clean (or at least, that sort of ‘faux’ clean where the muck has been blasted off but no cleaning product has been used, a sort of faint patina of muck still left on the frame) and had no end of issues with bearings and seals etc. and just generally felt and sounded awful.

      Maybe just a result of being used by a handful of neglectful customers (‘ride it like you’ve only put a £50 deposit down on it’) but put me off ever jet washing my own pride and joy.

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      • visionset
        May 13, 2022 at 10:00 am
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        Yeah but you’d not be jet

        No content

        — IanEdward

        Yeah but you’d not be jet washing it like you only put a £50 deposit on it eh!

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    • SimoninSpalding
      May 13, 2022 at 10:06 am
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      I assume that GCN did this as

      I assume that GCN did this as a one off, on a brand new bike/ bottom bracket. The concern is not that you can trash your bearings in one go, but the damage to the seals is cumulative and shortens the life of the grease/ bearings.

      I have seen a lot of articles over the years where pro team mechanics are held up as experts in bike maintenance, but they really aren’t as drivetrain consumable parts are treated by them as disposable whereas an amateur/ leisure cyclist on a budget needs their chain to last 000s of km, along with cassettes, chainrings, bearings etc.

      The people to ask about bike cleaning and maintenance are the ones still running a mid 90s 8 speed Campag groupset who are committed to buying a new one “if it wears out”.

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      • Awavey
        May 13, 2022 at 10:43 am
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        Exactly, what’s the rule of
        Exactly, what’s the rule of thumb advice for riding through flood water, nothing deeper than the bottom of your frame as you’ll just end up trashing the BB bearings via water ingress, and likely the pedal and wheel bearings too.

        Focusing high pressure water on those same areas, and specifically in the way Sagan shows, how is that not going to produce the same result ?

        Every rider I’ve ever seen on video who pressure washes bikes has either the support of a professional mechanic, bikeshop or a bike manufacturer who simply constantly replaces bearings as consumables for them or replaces the whole bike yearly instead anyway.

        It’s like I was never keen on Specs Future Shock tech, as it might have been ideal for Sagan to use in the Belgian classics but any long term mechanical issue caused by water ingress would never show up as the race bike would be discarded and replaced after those races.

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        • John Stevenson
          May 13, 2022 at 11:00 am
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          Back in the 90’s we did a

          Back in the 90’s we did a silly thing in Mountain Biking UK that involved riding deep under water, with SCUBA gear.

          The bike was one we’d had on test, so we thought we better get it super-thoroughly serviced before we sent it back. Pete, the mechanic at (now sadly demised) John’s Bikes, reported no water in the bottom bracket or hub bearings, and was pretty confident that the combo of labyrinth & rubber seals on Shimano hubs of the time would resist jet-washing.

          “But if you print that I’ll kill you,” he said.

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          • Secret_squirrel
            May 13, 2022 at 12:16 pm
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            Ahh John’s Bikes in Bath. 

            Ahh John’s Bikes in Bath. 

            Was an occasional visitor to Bath in my late teens early twenties, it being the first decent town down the M4 from me.

            Fond memories of going to look at MTB Porn there and in Total Fitness whenever I visited.

          • John Stevenson
            May 13, 2022 at 1:20 pm
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            The best thing was that if

            The best thing was that if you hung out in there long enough you’d get to observe John Potter’s idiosyncratic relationship management technique as it applied to reps and awkward customers.

            In commemoration of one incident his staff got him business cards that said:

            John’s Bikes
            John Potter — Proprieter
            Here’s a fiver now fuck off

          • Awavey
            May 13, 2022 at 2:36 pm
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            I’d trust alot of bike
            I’d trust alot of bike equipment made in the 90s to be able to do that, I doubt the stuff we get made now is so similarly well engineered.

            just ask those riders from Ride London in 2014 how their bikes fared after riding through the flooded underpass.

    • Jetmans Dad
      May 15, 2022 at 10:57 pm
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      Carior wrote:

      The case for the defence is GCN’s video Should You Jet Wash Your Bike? 

      — Carior

      Possibly, but I am fairly certain that the £800 Triban I ride is not built with parts that provide the same kind of protection against these things that the multi-thousand quid bikes ridden by the GCN crew do. 

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      • Rendel Harris
        May 16, 2022 at 5:19 am
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        Jetmans Dad wrote:

        The case for the defence is GCN’s video Should You Jet Wash Your Bike? 

        — Jetmans Dad

        Possibly, but I am fairly certain that the £800 Triban I ride is not built with parts that provide the same kind of protection against these things that the multi-thousand quid bikes ridden by the GCN crew do. 

        — Carior

        It would depend on the specific make of course but your Triban is very likely more robust and able to take abuse than a top-end racing machine; top racing bikes and components are generally designed on the assumption that their owners will be continually cleaning, oiling and fettling them and their lightness leads to fragility – look how often racers have to change their bikes in the course of a stage. Thoroughbreds need more kid glove treatment than carthorses.*

        *I know next to nothing about horses, this metaphor may be bollocks.

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  2. EK Spinner
    May 13, 2022 at 8:59 am
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    moving on from the bearings,

    moving on from the bearings, who washes thier bike like that with bottles still in the cages.

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  3. visionset
    May 13, 2022 at 9:55 am
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    There is nothing ‘poor’ about

    There is nothing ‘poor’ about Speciali*ed

     

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  4. peted76
    May 13, 2022 at 12:04 pm
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    ITV’s The Games – Well.. that

    ITV’s The Games – Well.. that was akward to watch. I don’t think any one of them knew what the hell was going on at any point of that ‘race’.

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    • brooksby
      May 13, 2022 at 12:30 pm
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      How is “celebrity” defined

      How is “celebrity” defined nowadays?  I literally didn’t know who any of those women were!

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      • Hirsute
        May 13, 2022 at 1:08 pm
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        Are you a judge ?

        Are you a judge ?

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      • peted76
        May 13, 2022 at 1:54 pm
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        brooksby wrote:

        How is “celebrity” defined nowadays?  I literally didn’t know who any of those women were!

        — brooksby

        I’m pretty sure one of them is Paddy McGuinesses wife, but beyond that I’m also left in the dark. I think ‘selebratty’ is defined as anyone who wants to be famous and has either followers on social media and or has been on the tellybox.

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        • Awavey
          May 13, 2022 at 2:32 pm
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          One is Mel B’s (Spice Girl)
          One is Mel B’s (Spice Girl) daughter, another was in Harry Potter I think…part of me is glad I dont recognise any of them because it means I dont waste my time normally watching the kind of rubbish they must have been in to qualify as celebs, though I must admit I did watch abit of this briefly just to watch the unfurling carnage.

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    • mdavidford
      May 14, 2022 at 10:44 am
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      Don’t know what the

      Don’t know what the commissaires were playing at – first and second should clearly have both been disqualified for passing the derny.

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  5. Hirsute
    May 13, 2022 at 7:08 pm
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    I know I killed someone after

    I know I killed someone after 10 pints and driving at 3 times the 20 mph limit but it’s simply not fair I am locked up for this long.

    Drink driver who killed student after downing 10 pints has sentence cut

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    • Awavey
      May 13, 2022 at 8:12 pm
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      he had a prior drink driving

      he had a prior drink driving conviction from 2014 too.

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    • IanMSpencer
      May 14, 2022 at 7:05 am
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      The most peculiar thing is
      The most peculiar thing is that they were guessing whether he had made a guilty plea before he arrived at court from the way the article was written.

      Guilty pleas are often made just before the case arrives when the defendant’s team look to see who turns up at court – hoping to get away with it if witnesses don’t turn up. You don’t get the full discount. Presumably they were arguing about whether the guilty plea was submitted in advance of the trial which gets a lesser sentence than on the day. TBF the guy didn’t get much off his sentence.

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      • Awavey
        May 14, 2022 at 10:27 am
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        theres more case detail at

        theres more case detail at https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/drink-driver-who-killed-salford-23940217

        though it raises more questions, like I didnt think you had to give permission for the police to look at your phone for anything anymore, or to consent to them investigating your car, this is that crazy thing that theyve treated this simply as a motor vehicle collision, rather than manslaughter.

        I mean when they arrest people charged with murder, they dont ask their permission to do a forensics check on their car do they ? or ask for permission to look at the murder weapon.

        but it sounds like there was some sort of procedural screw up and enough legal wiggle room to say the plea hadnt been recorded properly. not withstanding I dont think you should get the full plea reduction anyway if your non cooperation with the police actually hinders their investigation and potentially destroys vital evidence.

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  6. IanMSpencer
    May 14, 2022 at 6:40 am
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    I jet wash my bikes, lowest
    I jet wash my bikes, lowest setting, never point it at hubs, BB or headset gaps. Nothing to worry about, just don’t get too close to bits you don’t want high pressure water applied to.

    The most water damage I’ve had was when an oncoming car ignored a very deep puddle and effectively threw several buckets of water over me simultaneously – that destroyed my Fly12 which I left on my bike while jet washing (though to be fair I rarely bother washing the handlebars). My Fly6 has been jetwashed several times.

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  7. Hirsute
    May 15, 2022 at 7:00 pm
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    Cyclist scum !

    Die cyclist scum !

    https://twitter.com/popdeath/status/1525833766039609351

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSzlLvTWYAITegf?format=jpg&name=medium

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whosatthewheel 5 hours ago

@andystow To just brush.

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Bone conducting headphones connected to an AI chatbot repeating the text 'harden the phuckup and ride faster" will do it every time

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Hollis Jones 5 hours ago

@a1white that actually chilled me to read - the notion that a metal box could have more value than a person’s life. Motonormativity at its finest. What a rotten society.

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chrisonabike 5 hours ago

@Rendel Harris but but wasn't it a case of "only hurty words" again? Seems that that is the new "just bants". Which falls somewhere between saying you've a *very* robust belief in the right to say anything, no matter what offence caused * ... and being a (not very) crypto racist / holding other irrational hates. * Most who promote this approach appear unable to sustain it when on the receiving end of criticism - or even questions. It's almost as if people do it just for *certain* kinds of attention, and are seeking an easy win not a fight. There must be a word for that...

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