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"I should have done it sooner": Cyclist turns heads with "no regrets" handlebar set-up, cutting off drops because "it just feels perfect"; TWO Tour de France Femmes stages in one day + more on the live blog

It's another sunny day with the Tour de France on the telly... what more could you want? Oh, right, you're all at work... anyway, Dan Alexander is on live blog duty keeping you on top of all the cycling-related news, reaction and more this Tuesday...

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13 August 2024, 07:50
"I should have done it sooner": Cyclist turns heads with "no regrets" handlebar set-up, cutting off drops because "it just feels perfect"
The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook)

[Brett Reynolds/Facebook]

It is almost hill climb season, I guess... although we reckon cutting off your drops in the search of a tiny weight saving to smash it up a five-minute climb and do no further riding that day is a very different vibe to ditching the drops on the bike you do all your riding on.

Jo spotted this on Facebook where, unsurprisingly, it's getting quite a lot of attention. No regrets for Brett the bike's owner, in fact he's saying he "should've done it sooner".

The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook)

"Use 'em or lose 'em... I just cut them off," he told the entertained masses. "I have been considering doing this for years and as I had spare bars lying around... did it. I just don't use the drops at all and ride the hoods for everything and it somehow feels better, I can't explain it, it just feels perfect with no position compromises. If you are like me and you have some spare bars, try it."

Don't encourage the hill climbers, Brett, they need no convincing to mutilate poor bicycles...

2022 National Hill Climb Trigon - 1 (1)

> Weird and wonderful bikes from the National Hill Climb Championships 

2022 National Hill Climb Trek Emonda SL - 1

My eyes...

Need we ask if any of you are tempted? More importantly has anyone done it before? Any regrets? On the plus side, you're going to get slightly more bang for your buck out of bar tape and eradicate that silly dead leg every cyclist only gives themself once if you carelessly smash your knee/quad into a drop. On the other side, not being able to... well, use the drops is something of a vote-swinger for us... but I guess if, like Brett, you never use them anyway, that's less of an issue.

Oh, and no, you won't be able to call in that warranty cover if something goes wrong... but you probably knew that anyway if you're prepping to take a saw to your handlebars.

13 August 2024, 15:58
Demi Vollering wins Tour de France Femmes time trial, takes yellow jersey

You know what? I'm a fan of the couple of sprint stages into short, almost prologue-length, time trial that the Tour de France Femmes experimented with in the Netherlands (admittedly, as the teams would point out, having the latter two of those three on the same day does create a bit of a logistical headache).

Granted, also, the organisers have been somewhat limited by the pancake-like terrain on offer, but it turned the short TT into a sort of yellow jersey handicap race against the clock where the top sprinters get a bit of a head start due to bonus seconds won on the opening two days, and try to fend off the specialists and GC favourites.

We wondered if Charlotte Kool might be able to cling onto yellow for another stage, but alas not, Lorena Wiebes the closest of the sprinters to taking the race lead. However, ultimately it was, like we suspect a couple more days later in the week, one for Demi Vollering, the 2023 TDFF champ taking yellow before the race even leaves her home country or climbs a hill of note.

It continues the dominance Dutch riders have held over the race since its return to the calendar in 2022. Of 19 stages across three editions so far, 12 have gone to riders from the Netherlands, while the yellow jersey has been worn by a Dutch rider after all but six stages, Lotte Kopecky the only person to disrupt that GC dominance. You probably wouldn't bet against Vollering holding yellow all the way to Alpe d'Huez either.

Olympic champion Grace Brown gave her golden TT bike a first run today, a puncture deflating her chances. Of the other notable Olympic performers, Chloe Dygert was second, road race champ Kristen Faulkner fifth, and Anna Henderson 10th. Decent showings by many, but today (and maybe this entire race) is all about Vollering.

13 August 2024, 15:48
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13 August 2024, 13:21
"Well, that was a fun morning!": Transport Secretary Louise Haigh joins Chris Boardman and Laura Laker on Trans-Pennine Trail (N62) bike ride
Louise Haigh bike ride with Chris Boardman and Laura Laker

Positive signs? Labour's new Transport Secretary Louise Haigh has shared these photos on social media, reporting having spent the morning out cycling the Trans-Pennine Trail (N62) with Active Travel Commissioner Chris Boardman and road.cc contributor and active travel author/journalist Laura Laker. 

13 August 2024, 13:18
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13 August 2024, 13:00
"Cutting off the drops will have been a great idea right up until the point when you're going down a really fast descent and you reach for the drops..."

Comments section time...

The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook)

A great story for getting followers who haven't actually read today's blog telling you on Facebook that hill climbers have been doing this for years. And of course said hill climbers sending in their gramme-saving sawing, this courtesy of Dale Wilkes...

Reader's hill climb bike (Dale Wilkes/Facebook)

As a couple of you have touched on, the remarkable thing about the drop-less wonder that made today's blog is that it wasn't done for hill climb purposes, just a gravel-riding preference. The other context we've heard people do similar is on a commuter if you don't want to buy a pair of bullhorn bars. In fact, ultra-cycling legend Steve Abraham replied to one of our social media posts saying he'd done the same "and flipped them upside down to make bullhorns for my fixie".

Mark Wynn-Edwards also told us: "Yep, did this years ago on one of my travel bikes. Best thing ever, doesn't get in the way and I didn't ever drop down there anyway."

Paul Ruffy: "Well I'd probably reach for them and eat tarmac. But seriously they are there for a reason. Adds another position to alleviate any pressure points, more aero (sometimes) and also I think much safer for descending at high speed."

billymansell: "Cutting off the drops will have been a great idea right up until the point when you're going down a really fast descent and you reach for the drops..."

Of course, my favourite comments were of the less serious kind...

hawkinspeter: "To enforce my use of the drops, I'm going to remove the tops from my handlebar."

slc: "I removed the wheels to get below the wind. Seem to work pretty well as I can't feel a breeze no matter how hard I pedal."

Anyway, if you get bored of riding without parts of your bars and need a new fix, try this one, courtesy of live blog favourite Chad Tavernia...

Chad Tavernia 100-mile out the saddle (Image credit: Chad Tavernia/Strava)

 

13 August 2024, 10:33
Horror crash that left track cycling spectator with "machete-like" injury prompts London velodrome to install Perspex barrier, two years after rider catapulted into crowd, "almost killing" children
13 August 2024, 09:43
Charlotte Kool wins again, sprints to second stage victory of Tour de France Femmes

It doesn't get much better for Charlotte Kool and dsm-firmenich PostNL than this. Dutch rider in the Netherlands, in yellow, winning the first two stages of the Tour de France Femmes. SD Worx looked in control, launching Lorena Wiebes at what seemed to be the perfect moment. But, as her sprint went on, Kool closed, picking a gap between Marianne Vos and Wiebes perfectly, punching through and winning it on the line. 

Wiebes and Vos took second and third, this afternoon's TT is going to be very interesting to see if Kool can hold onto yellow for another day, the short six-kilometre course perhaps just about in the wheelhouse of the peloton's fastest sprinters. The yellow jersey has a 14-second advantage over Anniina Ahtosalo and Wiebes, 16 seconds on Vos and Elisa Balsamo, and 20 seconds on the rest of the contenders. This is going to be fun.

13 August 2024, 09:27
6% of Brits believe they could qualify for the 2028 Olympic Games cycling road race if they started training now
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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You might have seen this YouGov research doing the rounds since the weekend, but wow, give me the confidence of the six per cent of Brits who believe they could qualify for the 2028 Olympic Games road race if they started training now. A marginally more modest five per cent said the track sprint would be one they could qualify for... 

13 August 2024, 08:38
Today at the Tour — Dutch double-header will see two stages decided in one day

Local road race crammed into a weekend vibes at the Tour de France Femmes today, a morning road race followed by an afternoon TT. The AM action is well underway, 40km to go there, then the riders will take to the streets of Rotterdam again this afternoon for a six-kilometre-long individual time trial, two stages that I reckon even I could get through. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be in the time limit, but still a flat 70km in the sun sounds quite pleasant.

Stage two:

2024 Tour de France Femmes stage 2 (ASO)

Stage three: 

2024 Tour de France Femmes stage 3 (ASO)

Some more reaction to yesterday before today explodes into life, yellow jersey Charlotte Kool unsurprisingly called it the "best day of my life" after winning the opening sprint. For compatriot Lorena Wiebes it certainly was not, the pre-stage favourite explaining later that the mechanical, which was in fact not a dropped chain but her derailleur "breaking off in a race incident", gave her no chance.

"This is a disappointment. I am not looking for excuses. I had been looking forward to this for a long time, but knew bad luck," she said. "You work very hard for months and then you miss out."

The Tashkent team was also a popular interview last night, four of their seven riders abandoning on stage one, the team getting a place at the race by virtue of a top-18 ranking earned through points gained in races in its home Central Asia region, rather than at more competitive European events. When the team's riders were chucked in at the calendar's biggest event, several of those riders being young, inexperienced and clearly not yet at the level for such an intense WorldTour race, more than half couldn't make it to the finish on day one.

However, the team's sports director Volodymyr Starchyk hit back at criticism of the team's performance, telling Cyclingnews their presence at the race is a "victory" for the sport. 

"People can think everything they want. Everybody is able to think about what they want but we are here, it's something big for the nation," he said. "The first time in history an Uzbek team with all Uzbek riders so I think also for cycling it's a victory because a country completely outside of races in Europe, an Asian team coming here to Tour de France, it's never happened in history. So it's sad for results because we lose some riders today but at the same time, Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift shows people that cycling is open for the whole world."

13 August 2024, 08:33
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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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john_smith replied to billymansell | 2 months ago
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On some of the roads around here you'd have a hard time keeping your hands on the drops on a really fast descent even if they were there.

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Boopop replied to john_smith | 2 months ago
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john_smith wrote:

On some of the roads around here you'd have a hard time keeping your hands on the drops on a really fast descent even if they were there.

Maybe I'm missing something but isn't one of the points of the drops precisely so that your hands don't come off the bars when riding over bumps/potholes on a descent?

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ROOTminus1 | 2 months ago
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Seems to me that if the owner is constantly on the hoods and never touches the drops then their setup isn't right. Either raise the bars slightly to make both positions more comfortable, or work on some back flexibility stretches to aero tuck on the drops

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Secret_squirrel replied to ROOTminus1 | 2 months ago
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These are Hill Climbers.  By definition they are nutters and only on the bike for 15 mins at a time.

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OnYerBike replied to Secret_squirrel | 2 months ago
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I don't think the main bike mentioned was intended to be a hill-climbing weight weenie - the owner just said they never used the drops.

The other bikes are mentioned have been modified specifically for hill climbing and featured previously on road.cc - so in classic road.cc tradition they have been regurgitated from the archives to pad out the main story and provide a bonus link for people to click.

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Matthew Acton-Varian replied to Secret_squirrel | 2 months ago
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The original poster was not a hillclimber. They might not have known about the niche discipline.

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webbierwrex replied to ROOTminus1 | 2 months ago
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I agree, for an every day use bike never using the drops is a massive red flag that the drop is too much or the reach is too much, or both. 

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Rendel Harris replied to webbierwrex | 2 months ago
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webbierwrex wrote:

I agree, for an every day use bike never using the drops is a massive red flag that the drop is too much or the reach is too much, or both. 

The drops on my everyday use bike are exactly the same size, shape and position as on my "race" bike and I doubt I've touched them once this year (about 4500kms commuting), no "red flag", I just don't need them in everyday urban riding.

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john_smith replied to ROOTminus1 | 2 months ago
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Maybe he never rides really hard?

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ROOTminus1 replied to john_smith | 2 months ago
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john_smith wrote:

Maybe he never rides really hard?

They appear to be making it very hard for themselves. Flat, open road with a headwind? Stay sat up on the hoods. Also, take note of the gravel/cx tyres, important for grip on the canal towpath, but also 100% resistance training on the tarmac, all day every day

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webbierwrex replied to john_smith | 2 months ago
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john_smith wrote:

Maybe he never rides really hard?

Drops aren't just for riding hard, they are also useful for distrubting fatigue across hands and arms and also increases control and lowers the centre of gravity. 

I guess you could say "maybe they never ride for very long or like going down hill fast" but...if you don't ride hard, or long or require a good handling bike why go to the effort of cutting handlebars?

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john_smith replied to webbierwrex | 2 months ago
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No idea, I just don't reckon not using the drops implies there's a problem with your position. When I was riding regularly I would go through the entire winter hardly touching the drops. I can imagine that someone who only does long slow rides wouldn't ever need them, not that I would consider cutting them off even if I never ever used them.

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andystow replied to ROOTminus1 | 2 months ago
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Exactly. I'm on the drops maybe 5%-10% of the time, but they're really great when I want them. When I built my current gravel bike, I actually set up the bars a couple of centimetres higher than on the touring bike I was replacing, to make all three positions usable.

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mark1a replied to ROOTminus1 | 2 months ago
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Hoods? They're overrated too. If you're going to lose the drops, then the hoods need to go as well. This is my hillclimb project, brakes are using bartop levers, and rear mech is using SW-R600 climber Di2 shifter.

 

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chrisonabike replied to mark1a | 2 months ago
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But is removing the pedals maybe a step too far?

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mark1a replied to chrisonabike | 2 months ago
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At the time of the photo, I was waiting for some used Dura Ace pedals to arrive from eBay, but well observed old chap. 

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Backladder replied to mark1a | 2 months ago
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mark1a wrote:

Hoods? They're overrated too. If you're going to lose the drops, then the hoods need to go as well. This is my hillclimb project, brakes are using bartop levers, and rear mech is using SW-R600 climber Di2 shifter.

But if you remove the hoods what do you pull on when out of the saddle? Looks like you could lose a couple of chain links as well!

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Pub bike replied to Backladder | 2 months ago
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Backladder wrote:

But if you remove the hoods what do you pull on when out of the saddle? Looks like you could lose a couple of chain links as well!

I use the drops for sprinting out of the saddle.  Mark Cavendish does as well but then he generates about 2000W more than I do.

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kevgravelkev replied to ROOTminus1 | 2 months ago
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Nope. Had a bike fit etc etc. Rarely on the drops - just don't see the need.

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