How fast could you ride one kilometre? Jeffrey Hoogland breaks world record with blistering 55.433, vomits afterwards; “You can taste the fumes”: cycling group blasts night park closure; Remco’s morning jog; £20k Lotus e-road bike + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Remco Evenepoel's "morning jog" is pretty quick
Not Tom Pidcock 13:25 5km quick granted… although neither was Tom’s…
> “Maybe he forgot to get off his bike”: Tom Pidcock challenged over 13:25 5km run claim
Also not as quick as Tom Dumoulin’s 32:38 10km, but then again Remco was just jogging…
> Tom Dumoulin runs super quick 32:38 10km
The retired Dumoulin also recently completed the Amsterdam half-marathon in a very impressive 1:10.04, joking that he wouldn’t be able to walk for two weeks.
While “I think I’ll stick to bike riding” was Adam Yates’ assessment after completing the Barcelona marathon in 2:58:44 during an off-season a couple of years ago.
How fast could you ride one kilometre from a dead start? Jeffrey Hoogland breaks world record... clocking a ridiculous 55.433 seconds on the track
I’m getting in early, ahead of whichever comments section genius is going to say they could beat it descending Mont Ventoux or something. For the record, this is a track record. From a static start!
The Dutch beast Jeffrey Hoogland broke the 1 km time-trial World Record in Aguascalientes, Mexico: 55″433. That’s 65 km/h average speed with standing start. 🤯 Heck, I’m not sure that I could beat that with my car…
🎥 @GWarrinkpic.twitter.com/WZfF0VK5KK— Mihai Simion (@faustocoppi60) October 31, 2023
The new mark is almost a full second quicker than the previous best, held by François Pervis since 2013. Set at altitude in Aguascalientes, Mexico, Hoogland reportedly hit a top speed of 80km/h. AD reports it took him 20 minutes to recover to be in a fit state to do an interview…
You don’t see this too often: Hoogland’s kilo world record effort took so much out of him that he needed extra oxygen afterwards, Jesus Christ pic.twitter.com/Nu47jFZCuS
— Emma Bianchi (track szn) (@cyclartist) October 31, 2023
“I can’t really enjoy it yet. It hurts everywhere. But I’m very happy with the world record, that’s why I came here. This is so cool,” he said afterwards.
“I almost expected miracles here at height, but it was still a blast to cycle. It wasn’t until I heard the cheering at the finish that I knew it was a world record anyway.”
He’s even still got the track booked for tonight, opening the door to a possible assault on the flying 200m world record too. That’s from a moving start, not in the air with wings…
Cycling memes: hill climb edition
— Ed Laverack (@edlaverack) November 1, 2023
Still not the main joke of the day…
"Crazy money, but it's absolutely stunning": Your thoughts on Aston Martin & J.Laverack's 'boltless' bike
Let me guess…..£999?
— Steve (@stephen365) October 31, 2023
Erm, not quite, Steve. I think it’s safe to say you’ll need a decent chunk more than that for this one, there’s currently a sweepstake in the comments under the original story. The low bid is £19,950, the highest bid £41,999.95…
The all new .1R road bike, said to be “the world’s most bespoke, advanced and meticulously engineered road bicycle”. The collaboration brings claimed world-first design elements, including integrated brake calipers and a visually boltless design, all in a made-to-measure package weighing from 7.5kg for a full bike.
andyk: “Absolutely crazy money, but I have to admit, it’s absolutely stunning though! (with clever detailing). If I was minted, I would probably be one of those people crazy enough to buy it!”
maxdabrit: “Oh my goodness! That caliper and that rear disc combo. Just gorgeous.”
Rendel Harris: “I frequently break off from my work to look adoringly at my Roubaix Dura Ace SL Pro which hangs proudly on the wall near my desk, thinking it’s one of the most lovely things I’ve ever owned; that’s all ruined for me now by realising just how hideous those bottle cage bolts are.”
RobD: “I mean, if you’re going to do it then they’ve certainly made a decent effort of it. I really want a set of those disc rotors, and the stem/handlebar looks pretty cool.
“As others have said, no idea how you do any maintenance on it, but I guess you send it back to them after the rare occasion that you might actually ride it. I’m also surprised that no major manufacturer has released an adjustable/customisable crank along this kind of idea.”
henryb: “No mudguard eyelets?! How are you supposed to take it out on a wet Sunday club ride?”
brooksby: “I’m not sure you’re supposed to take it out of the house…”
Tour of Britain brings more than £22 million to the economy, report suggests
An independent report by the Frontline agency has estimated that the Tour of Britain contributed more than £22 million to the economy during this year’s race. An estimated 1.64-million spectators saw the race at the roadside over the eight stages, while analysts YouGov Sports found that the Tour of Britain generated £29.6 million in sponsorship value for its partners and stakeholders.
Wife of cyclist killed by driver in Northern Ireland calls for stricter licence renewal rules
An inquest has heard from the wife of a cyclist, killed in a collision caused by a driver who had not disclosed a stroke during his licence renewal, who told the court there is a “huge gap in regulations” around declaring medical conditions when renewing a driving licence and that more needs to be done “to prevent future deaths” as a legacy to her husband.
Reported in the Belfast Telegraph, the inquest heard Aidan Fitzpatrick was killed in a collision in County Down four years ago, the driver Arthur McGrillen, 75, jailed for two and a half years last November after he “ploughed into” Mr Fitzpatrick and another man having failed to see them.
The court heard that McGrillen had suffered a stroke in 2017 but failed to declare the medical information when renewing his licence a year later in 2018.
“The issue we see is that the obligation to report on fitness to drive is left to the driver, and in some cases the driver just will not report to DVA (the Driver & Vehicle Agency) and continue to drive unless his or her medical team is aware of this, they have no duty to report,” Mr Fitzpatrick’s wife Deirdre said. “So essentially this means DVA relies on the conscience of each driver to decide whether or not to report themselves, and clearly that’s a huge gap in the regulations.
“In some cases a driver may not take on board or understand what is being said to them, maybe if the advice is given after a brain injury or a stroke, for example, and it is being told to them at a time where they don’t necessarily take it in.
“Very often the family don’t talk to the medic or practitioner, so they may continue to drive and cause an accident, and at that stage it is just too late.”
Vomit, dizziness and oxygen masks: more on Jeffrey Hoogland's new 1km track world record, plus footage
It’s difficult to comprehend how less than a minute’s effort can be this knackering, but then again I rarely ride my bike one kilometre in a minute and 55 seconds, let alone just 55 seconds…
As reported by AD, Big Jeff the ‘Hulk’ Hoogland (is that a thing? It is now) was panting “like a leopard” and unable to speak properly for about 20 minutes after his monstrous effort. After he was given an oxygen mask, the 30-year-old tried in vain to find a position to sit or stand that hurt the least, but was unable to, so instead got back on his bike while still very dizzy to stop his body from completely seizing up.
Hoogland reportedly vomited in a bin during his cooldown ride, and was given a wet towel for his neck and forehead by his girlfriend – and fellow track cyclist – Shanne Braspennincx.
Hoogland has now recovered enough to post another update on his X/Twitter account, the footage from the attempt which you can see below. While it might make you feel weak, feeble and unworthy whenever you mount a bike for the forseeable future, watch and appreciate what it’s like for one to truly bury oneself through the medium of a bicycle with a very big chainring…
In case you’ve missed it 👀
Watch my World Record race here!
55,433 💥 pic.twitter.com/COPP1BmXYZ— Jeffrey Hoogland (@JeffreyHoogland) November 1, 2023
Should you ride a very high-end bike year-round?
“Do bikes like these need to be looked after like a fragile prince/princess?” asks Martin Synapse on the road.cc forum.
“Often yes.. road debris will be more common in winter = scratches, plus some posh wheel hubs don’t like the wet/damp”, says Pete76.
Although kil0ran says that high-end bikes are “increasingly capable”, adding: “The only risk is cost of fixing it if you stack it on field run off, ice, or from sidewinds hitting the aero wheels.”
If you’ve spent big money on a bike, does that mean you’ll ride it when you god damn want, or do you keep it for best days? On the subject, our freshly revamped winter road bikes guide should be ready this arvo!
Lotus launches a 20 grand electric road bike, the Type 136
If yesterday’s Aston Martin x J.Laverack bike launch wasn’t expensive enough for you (to be honest it might even cost more, we still don’t know) how about the brand new Lotus Type 136 e-road bike, a snip at £20,000?
Obviously Lotus are more known for track bikes, and this is the first e-bike of any kind carrying the Lotus name that we know of (unless there was some very ahead-of-its-time motor doping going on in the 90s).
The Type 136 is “a new performance model featuring the lightest e-bike motor from HPS to deliver dual-use functionality that will allow riders to go further, faster and higher”, says the press waffle. That motor weighs just 300g, and the full bike is 9.8kg/just over a couple of grand per kilogram.
The handlebars are V-shaped for victory when you cruise past the ruffians on their lesser bikes when going uphill, and the battery is “disguised as a water bottle”, detaching from the frame at the push of a button.
This is actually a special edition, of which just 136 will be made, hence the name. A ‘standard model’ – that we presume will cost a little less – goes on sale in spring 2024.
What do you reckon? We’ll have a full story on this from Dan who is at the launch, and reports that it is “a bit fancy.” More valuable insights to come later…
Live from the 20 grand Lotus launch: Chris Hoy, crazy seat stays and much gawping
Sir Chris officially unveiled the new bike, saying: “This is an incredible bike, which says so much about the pioneering endeavours of Lotus and the iconic status of its bikes over the years. As a teenager I vividly remember watching Chris Boardman powering Type 108 to a gold medal in Barcelona in 1992 and smashing records on Type 110 to wear the yellow jersey in the Tour de France two years later.”
Like the Hope/Lotus track bike, the Type 136 also has some very unconventional seat stays, although not quite as crazy as the track bike ones. They’re described as “vaulted” and help you and the bike “carve through the air with speed and efficiency”, claims Lotus.
Harry Tanfield signs for Saint Piran
The 28-year-old, who previously rode for the likes of AG2R and Qhubeka-Assos on the World Tour and won the 2018 individual pursuit national title on the track, has signed for the UK continental team for 2024 with a view towards a “longer-term partnership” according to Saint Piran.
The team’s owner Richard Pascoe said: “Having a rider with the ability, skill and intelligence of Harry is an incredible lift for everyone as we enter the new season. We want Harry to play a significant part in the management of the team long-term alongside other leaders such as Alex Richardson.”
Tanfield commented: “I have been talking to Ricci [Richard Pascoe] for some time about the Saint Piran project. I loved my time at TDT-Unibet, but the opportunity to come back to a UK team with a strong domestic and international program, trying to do things differently is exciting for me.
“I love the fact I will be using my experience to develop young riders, the team and importantly the UK domestic race scene. Working with Ricci and the team is one of the most exciting developments in my cycling career. Bring on 2024.”
The Hovis boy on the bike returns to the famous cobbled hill 50 years on
Now aged 64, Carl Barlow has returned to Gold Hill in Shaftsbury where, as a 13-year-old, he made every 70s household in the land feel all warm and fuzzy inside, pushing his bike up the hill and whizzing back down again to the tune of Dvořák’s New World Symphony. They needed that warm and fuzzy feeling too, what with all those winter blackouts and power cuts…
The advert was named the most iconic and heartwarming of all time in 2019, and now Barlow is starring in a new version to celebrate the ad’s 50th anniversary. There he is above on the left, alongside the new Hovis boy, 11-year-old Alex Freeman.
Barlow, who grew up to have four kids and served as a firefighter for over 30 years, said: “This advert has been such a huge part of my life and I am delighted to come back to Gold Hill to recreate the iconic scene.
“While it’s harder to make it to the top of the hill today, the ride back down is still just as great.”
If you want to get all nostalgic about mass-produced loaves, here’s the original advert in all its glory…
Maastricht cracks down on 'wild parking' of bikes on lampposts and railings
When you think of cities in the Netherlands, a country with more bicycles than people, one might conjure up an image of bikes taking up every bit of spare railing and lamppost available… but the city of Maastricht is clamping down on ‘wild’ parking, and since January, thousands of bikes parked outside of designated bike racks have been confiscated, and some of the owners fined.
Presumably to reassure the public that this isn’t just heavy-handedness or a revenue maker, the city has now launched a new ‘#posifiets’ campaign alongside the ban, explaining how keeping pavements clear for pedestrians, refraining from texting and riding and parking your bike neatly can make for a more harmonious atmosphere.
As reported by the Guardian, Maastricht’s mayor Wim Hillenaar said: “It is positive to see that ever more people are using a bike, but on the other hand, this sometimes brings problems in public space … and this decision is because the number of incorrectly parked bicycles remains too high despite all efforts.”
However, the head of the GreenLeft local party Mark Mülders doesn’t completely agree.
“GreenLeft wants a city where there is as little car traffic as possible … and in all honesty, I’m happy if people take the bike instead of the car,” he said.
“I would rather that they get a fine for incorrectly parking their car than their bike because everyone who cycles has made a contribution to a car-free inner city.”
What do you think? Should the railings of Maastricht be kept five-bikes-deep, or down with this sort of thing?
"You can taste the fumes": Cycling campaign group blasts evening park closure, leaving cyclists to negotiate heavy traffic
From now until March, Greenwich Park is closed to cyclists coming home from work after 6pm. This is the alternative. You can taste the fumes. There was an LTN here, but no more pic.twitter.com/AgCASaJuUs
— Greenwich Cyclists (@GreenwichCycle) October 31, 2023
In a mega city where increasing numbers are seeing the light and commuting by bike, a combination of an inconvenient evening park closure plus a heavily congested road – that had its LTN scheme scrapped in 2022 – means cycle commuters in Greenwich can “taste the fumes”, according to Greenwich Cyclists.
Greenwich Park is closed from 6pm until the spring, meaning cyclists have to take to the roads instead. In addition to this, Greenwich council scrapped the west Greenwich LTN nearly two years ago. Despite a consultation in August over the return of the LTN, Greenwich Cyclists suggest that at the moment, the situation is less than ideal for cyclists… or anyone, judging by these scenes.
“I don’t understand why they close the park, if people want to get in they will. Just leave it open,” says Jacko.
However, Del has an alternative take: “Buy a car or move to the country. Anyone who dislikes fumes but lives in a city is not very bright,” they said. Right…
1 November 2023, 09:08
More doom and gloom at WiggleCRC HQ...
Wiggle Chain Reaction administrators announce 105 job cuts amid interest from potential buyers
The joint administrators, who are currently preparing the business for sale, said the “decision was not taken lightly”, in the same week Wiggle’s parent company filed for insolvency in Germany
1 November 2023, 09:08
Here's your full story on the new Lotus e-road bike
Lotus launches £20,000 performance road e-bike inspired by Olympic gold medal-winning track bikes
Featuring "striking aero design", V-shaped handlebars, wing-shaped forks and vaulted chain stays, Lotus says the 9.8kg Type 136 "harnesses design and engineering excellence from more than 30 years of road and track cycling success"
1 November 2023, 09:08
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Restore Britain to what? Caves, mud huts, the Romans, Viking or Normans or just some convenient cut off point in history to suit his racist views. Remember your great great etc grandmother for everyone on the planet was Lucy being the oldest human remains ever found which was in Africa which means we all have black DNA.
@kingleo Lucky you to get to ride up it though, it's banned except one day a year now, and then only 300 riders allowed. Gone in for the ballot a couple of times but no luck.
@Rendel Harris: After I watched the Tour a few years ago on Puy de Dôme (it was very hot), I got to the bottom and looked at my tubs; they had rolled over so they were sticky side up because I was leaning one way on the descent all the time!
"Take back our streets"— does he mean from cars? I can remember when I was a boy; we played cricket and football in the streets.
@Rendel Harris Fascists who believe “Jewish ideas are destroying our country” were at the heart of Restore Britain’s campaign in the Holborn and St Pancras by-election in London. Callum Barker, a former activist in the fascist Homeland organisation, appears in photographs of the campaign. It is a fascist party founded by figures who were once part of the BNP leadership. “A former senior BNP official distributed its literature and apparently addressed its campaigners.” Weyman Bennett, SUTR co-convenor, said. Restore Britain is keen to win over the far right thugs who’ve built up networks in mobilisations, for example, against refugee hotels. “All credit to the patriots who turned out in Portsmouth last night in numbers,” said Lowe.
@mdavidford They've it mixed up with the same company's "Bird Nest 300 Aero Saddle Bag with Magnetic Smart Taillight", almost exactly the same but missing the G and the magnetic, which does have a magnetic light attachment.
Seems to be an invention of the reviewer's / road.cc's - 'magnetic' doesn't appear in the name on the product page, nor does it seem to mention it anywhere else.
@Rendel Harris with respect, it’s not 1930s but with Muslims replaced with Jews. They aren’t exactly fans of Jews either, who don’t count as white British under their definition. Plenty of obvious antisemitism alongside Islamophobia and all the rest of it. But yes, totally down the road to fascism, at home, kettle on.
Not sure what @OnYerBike has done to make you think they're with the fascist cadres.
33 thoughts on “How fast could you ride one kilometre? Jeffrey Hoogland breaks world record with blistering 55.433, vomits afterwards; “You can taste the fumes”: cycling group blasts night park closure; Remco’s morning jog; £20k Lotus e-road bike + more on the live blog”
My fastest kilo was a 1min
My fastest kilo was a 1min 13sec as a junior, in the days before discs and TT bars. Basically, Hoogland would have more than lapped me on a 250m track.
lesterama wrote:
That’s still pretty impressive though, less than five off Reg Harris’ (no relation) world records of the 1950s!
I am sure I could eat a kilo
I am sure I could eat a kilo of chips faster than that!
Hoogland gets the record
Hoogland gets the record thanks to hoog land!
I think anyone would probably
I think anyone would probably throw up after that effort. It’s impressive to say the least.
Love bikes, hate ‘wild
Love bikes, hate ‘wild parking’ – Dutch city puts rule-breakers on the rack (Grauniad)
Maastricht clamps down on cyclists who illegally secure their two-wheelers to lamp-posts or railings
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/01/love-bikes-hate-wild-parking-dutch-city-puts-rule-breakers-on-the-rack
(I don’t think we need to worry about that here – the UK can’t even deal with people leaving two tonnes of SUV on the footpath…).
The authorities would never
The authorities would never remove them before a bike thief did, that’s the problem over here.
Crazy money, but it’s
Crazy money, but it’s absolutely stunning”: Your thoughts on Aston Martin & J.Laverack’s ‘boltless’ bike
Can’t really comment as it’s impossible to see the bike in detail. No more ‘black on black’ photos please. It’s not clever or trendy, just gets in the way of conveying information.
oldoldbloke wrote:
The thought of high end
The thought of high end winter bikes being ridden in winter crud is horrifying.
My “best” bike (which I use in summer and for racing) gets carefully mounted onto the turbo for these few months of the year. Even though the paint job is battle scarred and it looks well used, I’m too precious about it, and I’m not running carbon rim brakes at this time of year. I don’t like riding them in the rain in summer! (And no, I won’t go alloy rims, deep sections weigh a ton and the hybrid carbon/alloy brake track wheels from a few years ago not only offer minimal weight savings are both extremely rare and in almost all cases, well into their useable life.)
Matthew Acton-Varian wrote:
The thought of mounting a poor, innocent bike on a boring old turbo is horrifying to me. All of mine get used outdoors year round, and we get a very real winter where I live. Possibly a cold snowy winter isn’t as hard on them as a wet UK winter, though. I don’t own any carbon bikes or deep wheels.
Looks a bit Mickey Mouse to
Looks a bit Mickey Mouse to me…
Carbon is definitely a summer
Carbon is definitely a summer material.
the problem with UK winters is that the conditions can change so extremely that there is no bike fit for purpose in the worst weather.
A winter road bike with full mudguards will do in anything provided there is nothing frozen anywhere. Crashing is a near inevitability unless you stick to well gritted main roads, but then the crud and grime very quickly eats away at your components.
Once temperatures hover at or below freezing, the road goes from wet to dry to ice patch and back again, and are not safe for even the widest grippiest winter tyres. Even CX and Gravel tyres would struggle. Then it’s Mountain bike conditions. And yet we barely see any snow, and when it does snow it turns to slush very quickly. That can freeze into black ice without warning and no tyres are going to grip that.
Your photo looks like you at least have predictable albeit low levels of grip with a decent bank of snow. That, over here in the UK, would be a winter luxury.
True about the mixed
True about the mixed conditions in the UK!
Expensive “bikes” (cycles) that can cope with the weather, whatever the weather you say? Can cope with snow, slush and ice – with a protected drivetrain?
(I don’t have one myself nor even the spiked tyres of course. Neither the spare cash nor the room to store one – and where would I park it at destinations?)
Matthew Acton-Varian wrote:
I could barely stand on this ice. The bike did great.
It’s been a while since I’ve
It’s been a while since I’ve seen Power Grips.
They did work for me, but moved with the fashion for vicious platforms.
I have quite a variety of
I have quite a variety of pedals on my various bikes, but I’ve never done clipless, and don’t plan to. The Power Grips work great for me. I have Race Face Chester flat pedals on one bike, and those are proper destroyers of shins.
andystow wrote:
I find I only need to have two pedals on my bike… 😉
What if you’re more social?
What if you’re more social?
I see Batman perched, ready
I see Batman perched, ready to protect you from wheel spray…
Life is too short for winter
Life is too short for winter bikes
On that Northern Ireland
On that Northern Ireland story:
I was watching Police Motorway 999 Interceptor Cops the other evening. It was an old episode, when they were shadowing Cumbria police.
Our Policeman was called to a RTC. A car had come out of a junction, at speed, and run over a woman cycling past on the main road. When Our Policeman arrived on the scene the emergency services were trying to (very carefully) lift the car up so they could get the (seriously injured) woman out from under it so she could be air-ambulanced to hospital.
The driver of the car was a very elderly gentleman, standing by the side of the road with his wife. He said he just didn’t know how it had happened. Our Policeman actually said, “These things happen” and said they were free to go and he’d pop in to their house later to take a proper statement.
The end-of-scene narration explained that the driver had voluntarily handed in his driving licence and that therefore no further action would be taken.
There was no narration on what state the woman cyclist ended up in
brooksby wrote:
On the one hand, the driver handing in their licence is a positive move and at least no-one else will be injured due to their incompetence.
On the other hand, that shouldn’t absolve the driver from their legal responsibility to not run over people.
hawkinspeter wrote:
Understood, but it just felt like handing in their licence was a ‘get out of jail free’ card. I was also unhappy that the poor cyclist seemed to be almost an afterthought, with the focus being more on this poor old man who had through no fault of his own realised he couldn’t drive any more…
All of this.
All of this.
Luckily we have a very holistic system which always joins the dots on this kind of thing. Why,
last year we even set upearlier this year we were “still committed to setting up” a Road Safety Investigation Branch. To, y’know, investigate road safety e.g. look at crashes from a health and safety point of view as opposed to legal fault.But hey, the roads are special. Unlike marine, rail or aircraft incidents. So we’re probably better off just sticking with the idea that each crash is a unique, unforeseeable occurrence. And if there is blame the task is just to correctly assign it to some idiot / wrong’un using the system and not raise questions about the system itself.
(Yes – I know there are coroner’s Reports to Prevent Future Deaths – which come with the awesome power of forcing someone to answer a question and that’s it. And I know that the other ..AIBs – e.g. MAIB – can only make recommendations – but these appear to carry weight and they can make recommendations to organisations, including large government bodies).
I was also unhappy that the
I was also unhappy that the poor cyclist seemed to be almost an afterthought
I was at somebody else’s house, and this incident was on. This is exactly the police’s view: ‘well, you’re bound to hit the odd one’. Just say you didn’t see her and you didn’t mean to do it- and it’s Dixon of Dock Green time ‘mind how you go’- but if you don’t and it’s a cyclist, it doesn’t matter
This one ?
This one ?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-19840761
stonojnr wrote:
Yes! That was the car. I had never thought to look on the news for it…
stonojnr wrote:
If I just read that article without the previous posts about the driver etc. I would have assumed she crawled under the car and got stuck!
The battery on the Lotus bike
The battery on the Lotus bike looks like such an after thought. Couldn’t they have at least made it look like a nice water bottle
It’s interesting to see how
It’s interesting to see how such a short effort can utterly destroy someone, we saw it in the track champions league this week with Matthew Richardson too (in contrast Harri Lavreysen looked like he’d just popped down the pub for a couple). Any chance of getting a performance coach/scientist to explain the physiology behind it?
Great idea!
Great idea!
The Up! Up! Up! website used
The Up! Up! Up! website used to have some interesting info their on sprinters’ not training on days they were really flying, as they can dig a deep hole that takes months to recover from.