Rooting around for pics of the prototype X0B belt drive ‘crosser (see below) on Trek’s website we came across this…
The Big Apple Madone a specially tricked out (well paint-wise) bike for Lance who spends a lot of time in New York these days and is well known for his famous alleged apples-related put down of Jan Ullrich – which gets a reference on the bike. Although they are at pains to stress that this bike is not for sale (and that the paint job won’t be an option either) this might give a hint of what is to come in Trek’s Project One, a new system by which the company hopes to able to offer Madone buyers the option to customise the paint job on their bikes. Once the potentially fearsome logistics of this have been worked out the program will be rolled out first in the US, and then in Europe. More Madone Big Apple pics
Trek took the opportunity offered by the Interbike Cyclo Cross to test out this little beauty, a belt drive X0 ‘cross bike, the X0B.
Apparently Trek are looking for different ways of applying belt drive technology – it’s already on some of their ’09 commuting bikes, this they stress is very much a prototype just to see exactly what the belt is capable of. Applications are going to need to be singlespeed, or possibly run off hub gears for the time being. The X0 cross prototye has tension adjusters built into the dropouts to accommodate different gear choices. Trek’s test pilot, Travis Brown selected his gear after inspecting the course.
According to Trek’s website “The bike was built off a standard XO2 platform and had the rear dropouts and chainstays replaced to accommodate the belt. The chainstays are off a Trek T900 tandem; their heavier gauge minimizes lateral flex and compression loads that could make the belt skip”. Can’t find any mention of Travis on the Cross Vegas results sheet, but then it is only an experiment.
Trek specials: Belt drive ‘crosser prototype gets a run out + Big Apple Madone
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Chris King are fairly serviceable. And the warranty does indeed require it. I enjoy the xtr plug and forget on two of the bikes. Until they die, and I just fit another. Chris's headsets are worth it, superb seals. It's such a mucky area, and I haven't had adjustable cup and cone BBs. on a bike since my Peugeot racers in the 80s, I was relieved when starting my mountain bike adventures in the 90"s that the fit and forget square taper BBs just worked. The seals on the hubs were awful back then. Singletrack FGF featured this, https://burgtec.co.uk/product-category/hardware/shimano-crank-bolt/, I'm wondering if it will replace my seemingly made of butter bolt on the xtr 960 cranks, almost impossible to find back in the day.
If I had purchased my special products division 650 back in '96, rather than obtaining it under a warranty replacement, I would apparently have received a signed picture of the fine Nottingham artisan that welded her. The 750 of that year won Barry Clarke another British xc cup, as I recall.
Yay! https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/26466698.speed-camera-catching-drivers-25mph-oxfordshire/
The fall of Raleigh happened long before this week. Just because somebody bought the name does not mean they were the same bikes. And if you care about the name so much, noone says it won't be purchased by another inverstor as Accell Group is liquidated!
@Destroyer666 I totally see your point. The good news is there are indeed BBs which use industry-standard bearings. Take Neco, for example - they offer exactly what you want. Maybe the bearings in the set are not perfect, but you can replace them with SKFs later.
@chrisonabike I was just reading that myself, it seems a bizarre kneejerk reaction before poor Finlay's cause of death has even been fully investigated. What does Mr.Hansen think has been going on, have the manufacturers had the means to make safer, more robust helmets that are just as light and well ventilated but haven't bothered releasing them? Or does he want the peleton racing in motorcycle helmets, because that's the only way there's going to be a chance of meaningful protection in 100 kmh crashes?
I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work: AFAICS anti-social consequences are inherent in the business model. Models which seem to work better: advertising (Santander cycles), using bikes to make using another service which is more profitable (or less unprofitable) easier (Dutch OV Fiets). After that it's "local authority subsidises it" and then you're down to "flogging customer data"...
Back in the day square taper bb's rolled on bearings that were considerably larger than inside these Maxhit ones. The ball bearings in these fully serviceable models cost a couple of euros. Don't get me wrong, they had their issues, like poor sealing. But those days, servicing bearings was the norm. The current state seems to be something of an attempt at non-serviceability, where efforts made at making products that you DO NOT have to service are accompanied with products that you CANNOT service. And those two things are mixed in different ways. For example with this Maxhit bearing you pay a crazy amount of money for supposed durability - that you are nonetheless expected to service once a year. And once these bearings wear enough, there is no way to service them anymore - no cups, cones, ball bearings to replace, unlike with the old bb's (sure, it was not THAT easy even with them to e.g. find just cups in bike shop). I guess my point is that while I applaud e.g. Enduro for making "bike specific" bearings, I nonetheless long for products that are just easy to service - that is the key to durability. And that does not have to mean it costs a lot. To prove my point: There is absolutely no reason why Shimano could not manufacture it's ubiquitous 20eur BB-MT501 with easily replaceable industrial standard 6805 bearings (where SKF quality bearings cost about 20eur), for the same cost they manufacture the BB in it's current form. They just chose not to. And I would choose that over crazy expensive bb's with marketing schpiel and small print regarding warranty any day.
He's wildly over the top / backwards about what is a risk to the hard-pressed motorist and local places: those are "other motorists" and "mass motoring" respectively. He's almost right though in that many places - even in the UK - are gradually realising that a great way to save themselves money, improve their places and aid their chances of hitting targets on health, obesity, climate etc. is indeed to slow down motorists, restrict parking and deter (not prevent...) much *private motor* travel.
RIP. According to the president of the Cyclistes Professionnels Associes the first thing they need to look at is ... helmets? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/articles/czxqqlpnx98o Of course this could make perfect sense for a professional sport, perhaps standards haven't kept pace etc. It's certainly a rarefied extremely fast and hazard-rich environment, compared with my experience of normally <20mph utility-and-leisure cycling. But since the main factor seems to have been an uninvolved vehicle on the course this does sound like a convergence with the standard "cycling safety" narrative? ("Can't fix anything else, so what we *can* do is...")
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Muddy belt drive?
Belt drive around town i can kind of understand, but belt drive off-road? one of the great things about a chain is that the teeth effectively clean it by pushing mud through the holes. There’s no holes in a belt: where will the mud go?
That NYC trek is beautiful.
That NYC trek is beautiful. Hmmm, custom paint jobs on a carbon bike. Methinks I might start saving now…
The trek is beautiful but
… not sure about that particular paint job though. That said those new Madone’s are really nice looking bikes – some of the earlier versions looked a bit odd IMO. Mind you, maybe one of the reasons I like the new Madone is that it does have a certain look of Orbea’s Orca about it, particularly around the top of the seat tube.