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Tim K wrote:

To the moaning twonk in the bike cafe, 140,000 people have lost their jobs in Ireland over the last week. It's happening to everyone you plonker. Or would you rather someone came into your cafe and passed the virus on to 20 others who then went and passed it on to their parents/grandparents? Selfish git.

No, I imagine that he'd hoped the Govt would just come out and say, "Everything closed By Order" so that insurance might help him and his business come out the other side, rather than not saying that but just saying "Hey, guys, like, don't go to cafes and things, m'kay?"

According to an insurance expert on the TV earlier it would make no difference unless they had specific insurance to cover them for this situation which most don't. Lots of us don't have much to worry about from this virus (hopefully) but we have to look after the ones that do and his sort of attitude reeks of selfishness.

So lets shaft the general public and a lot of businesses so one area of business is safe? Seems like a great strategy to me.

It actually protects the general public.

How would you like all the insurers you currently hold policies with to go bust, or increase premiums to levels where many people can no longer afford insurance?

But you've obviously got a better idea about how insurers can fill in a three month hole in the takings of every business in the land...

srchar wrote:

Yes it will hurt some businesses now, 

Just checking, but who will be paying for all the hundreds of thousands of people who are put out of work, and lose their homes, etc?

I suspect they might let you off but might ask take details and you have to prove it. As I suspect they would if you were stopped when driving. (hopefullly)

ktache wrote:

CyclingMikey gets a result on the impatient angry doctors at gandalf corner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA8ah2dwMxQ

Brilliant

They were the embodiment of 'entitled'.

I suppose it will be 'onthe way to an urgetn CV meeting' next.

It's not a blanket ban though. According to family members living near Barcelona dog owners can take their dogs for a walk but parents cannot walk their children outside. 

Personally i'd be thinking twice about stopping any sweating cyclists.

Stuk wrote:

It's not a blanket ban though. According to family members living near Barcelona dog owners can take their dogs for a walk but parents cannot walk their children outside. 

Personally i'd be thinking twice about stopping any sweating cyclists.

Sweat should be nice and safe - SARS-CoV-2 won't be transmitted through that alone.

Personally I can't see that lone careful cyclists pose much threat to transmission but it's not a good idea to annoy emergency services during the plague.

I nearly went out on Saturday near Barcelona, but then decided against it.
It isn't just about catching/spreading the virus. If you have accident or a mountainbike tumble you are putting more of a strain on the hospitals. I don't want to be that guy.
That being said, all the empty roads really make me want to go out: traffic cameras in Catalonia

I don't undersdand the ban on cycling. Sure you don't want to go out, have an accident and put a strain on hospital resources. But how often do we end up in hospital? Very rare. And if you're cycling on your own, your still isolated?

A mate is stranded out in Club La Santa. My first thought was 'lucky git' but if you are not allowed to ride, perhpas not so lucky.

But that only works if the risk of riding increases your chance of hospitalisation,yet consistently its accidents in the home which are the bigger risk of causing you injury, trips,slips,falls,accidents whilst DIYing that requires hospital admission,and theyve forced their whole population to stay in that one place.

Its ludicrous.  Single riders don't pose a threat provided they start and end up back at home with no stops for cake and coffee.  I would break up groups but leave singletons and maybe pairs alone.

None of these quarantines are sustainable for more than a couple of weeks, and the minute they are relaxed the cases will spike again.   Unless there are clear reasons to prevent people leaving - like rush converting thousands more beds into Ventilator/Isolation beds this is all pointless.

For all Bozo and the UK clowns are being criticsized right now - at least they have a stated goal - it may be a horrible one for anyone in the majorly at risk brackets but at least its a long term plan.  The WHO plans seem to stop and end at "be like China".

However if the rules are no essential travel, there is no essential travel. If they allowed bikes and not cars, then everyone would get around it by travelling by bike. Then whilst that would be a cyclists dream, the whole point of the travel ban would be shafted. 

And Bozo's plan seems to be tell people to behave but lets make it not look as bad as anywhere else. Oh and hope we can pull over retired over 60's back in to look after sick people and also lets get Jaguar Land rover to build stuff. 

I agree on sustainability, however all the governments are running delaying tactics to hope summer is a leeway to recoup and hope medicines may be available to stop it next Autumn when it comes back with avengence. And actually the WHO guidelines is be more like South Korea and test widely and trace and test where people who do test positive has been. If not, then China and Italy are the next steps. 

In Girona yesterday (Sunday) riders were stopped by police and told to go home.

I was stopped yesterday attempting to ascend Mt Teide by the Guardia. We descended back to the hotel, bizarrely we got lost for another 25 miles

You've obviously got navigation problems.  They should have arrested you, confiscated your bike then told you to fuck off back to the UK and forcibly bundled you onto a plane back so you can go demonstrate civil disobedience at someone else's peril. Or 14 days quarantine in a lovely state institution with bars in front of the window, works miracles.