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Simon E | 5 years ago
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Really fascinating and illuminating words from Jonathan Vaughters talking to The Cycling Podcast about Froome, anti-doping, WADA and more:

https://thecyclingpodcast.com/podcast/a-pre-tour-de-france-ramble-part-t...

Those wishing to remain ignorant should not listen to in case they accidentally learn something.

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Walo | 5 years ago
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It is just strange that all other riders previously caught with AAFs remain so silent. Don't they deserve equal treatment, i.e. to be exonerated?

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Beecho | 5 years ago
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Eat Gateaux wearing your chapeaux in the chateau on the plateau.

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peted76 | 5 years ago
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Sad shameful behaviour. Mob mentality. 

 

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Yorkshire wallet | 5 years ago
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Froome needs to go on the counter attack and have a bottle of piss to squirt at 'fans'.

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StraelGuy replied to Yorkshire wallet | 5 years ago
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Yorkshire wallet wrote:

Froome needs to go on the counter attack and have a bottle of piss to squirt at 'fans'.

 

That's not a bad idea at all. He should definitely make sure his bidons are clearly labelled though .

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Kendalred replied to StraelGuy | 5 years ago
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StraelGuy wrote:

Yorkshire wallet wrote:

Froome needs to go on the counter attack and have a bottle of piss to squirt at 'fans'.

 

That's not a bad idea at all. He should definitely make sure his bidons are clearly labelled though .

 

"Bleurghh..!! Don't remember having asparagus last night!"

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Grahamd replied to Yorkshire wallet | 5 years ago
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Yorkshire wallet wrote:

Froome needs to go on the counter attack and have a bottle of piss to squirt at 'fans'.

With or without salbutamol?

 

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Bill H | 5 years ago
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Sky should be twinned with Millwall FC - No one likes us, we don't care!

In the meantime the Froome fans will be happy that he's competing and the anti-Sky can please themselves by asking how if Froome won the Giro sans asthma nebuliser, why did he need one at last year's tour?

The rest of us can just hope to enjoy some cracking sprint finishes, at least one successful breakaway and some beastly days in the mountains.

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SevenHills | 5 years ago
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 Or will he take his own advice and strike!

 

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SevenHills | 5 years ago
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Let's just hope that all they do is boo. If i was Froome i'd rather that than having piss thrown at me or even worse.

The best way to answer these people is to go and win the thing.

If Froome is on the podium for any stage or even at the end the meeting with the badger is going to be an interesting watch!

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Gus T | 5 years ago
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Sad really.

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don simon fbpe | 5 years ago
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All this booing is pretty poor, but no worse than being called a fucking moron for having a fact based differing opinion.
Go figure.

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Martyn_K replied to don simon fbpe | 5 years ago
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don simon wrote:

All this booing is pretty poor, but no worse than being called a fucking moron for having a fact based differing opinion. Go figure.

 

opinion
əˈpɪnjən/
noun
noun: opinion; plural noun: opinions
1.
a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
 

fact
fakt/
noun
noun: fact; plural noun: facts
a thing that is known or proved to be true.
 

 

So you can't really have a differing opinion about something that is fact. It is fact, that's it. No question.

Obviously you can have an opinion about the methods used to reach that fact and apply the appropriate debate skills to discuss such a subject.

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don simon fbpe replied to Martyn_K | 5 years ago
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Martyn_K wrote:

don simon wrote:

All this booing is pretty poor, but no worse than being called a fucking moron for having a fact based differing opinion. Go figure.

 

opinion
əˈpɪnjən/
noun
noun: opinion; plural noun: opinions
1.
a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
 

fact
fakt/
noun
noun: fact; plural noun: facts
a thing that is known or proved to be true.
 

 

So you can't really have a differing opinion about something that is fact. It is fact, that's it. No question.

Obviously you can have an opinion about the methods used to reach that fact and apply the appropriate debate skills to discuss such a subject.

Back out of the woodwork, are we?
WADA & UCI decided to drop charges as they weren't able to do a reliable test. That is the fact. He hasn't been proven innocent, just not guilty. You think he's innocent based on that fact, I think that I'd be naive in thinking that the peloton is clean and that he's had a lucky escape. If you can't deal with that, it most certainly isn't my problem. I will get more robust with responses hereon in.

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Martyn_K replied to don simon fbpe | 5 years ago
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[/quote] Back out of the woodwork, are we? WADA & UCI decided to drop charges as they weren't able to do a reliable test. That is the fact. He hasn't been proven innocent, just not guilty. You think he's innocent based on that fact, I think that I'd be naive in thinking that the peloton is clean and that he's had a lucky escape. If you can't deal with that, it most certainly isn't my problem. I will get more robust with responses hereon in.[/quote]

 

Wrong.

WADA and the UCI never raised ANY charges, therefore there were no charges to drop. The FACT is that those bodies found an adverse test result that needed investigation and decided not to progress with the matter as evidence indicated that there is/ was no wrong doing. This is not my opinion as it has been detailed in all communications from the UCI & WADA.

Your blatant flaming and trolling regarding this matter is tiresome.

If you really think that he is guilty then i suggest you focus your energy on attaining a position or role within WADA or the UCI where you can officially progres your vendetta to reach an endpoint that is obviously badly needed by you. Good luck.

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Simon E replied to Martyn_K | 5 years ago
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Martyn_K wrote:

Wrong.

WADA and the UCI never raised ANY charges, therefore there were no charges to drop.

I agree.

Jonathan Vaughters, definitely not a Sky fanboy, has a clearer view of the process than the morons. From the link I posted:

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"The first thing to understand is that this was never a case," he said. "It was a process to determine whether they should bring a case. And 99% of the time that happens behind closed doors, in complete privacy.

In this case, it was public, which is really unfortunate and whoever leaked it — because somebody inside the UCI leaked it — it’s just nasty, vindictive behaviour to do that," he said. "It doesn’t actually allow the system to work in the way that it should in a case involving a restricted substance, as opposed to a banned substance."

So before you all cry 'foul' and ask for beheading, bear in mind the... oh sod it I give up, you simply don't give a shit about facts. <sigh>

And if you don't like being called a moron try being a bit less moronic.

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don simon fbpe replied to Martyn_K | 5 years ago
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Martyn_K wrote:

Quote:

Back out of the woodwork, are we? WADA & UCI decided to drop charges as they weren't able to do a reliable test. That is the fact. He hasn't been proven innocent, just not guilty. You think he's innocent based on that fact, I think that I'd be naive in thinking that the peloton is clean and that he's had a lucky escape. If you can't deal with that, it most certainly isn't my problem. I will get more robust with responses hereon in.

 

Wrong.

WADA and the UCI never raised ANY charges, therefore there were no charges to drop. The FACT is that those bodies found an adverse test result that needed investigation and decided not to progress with the matter as evidence indicated that there is/ was no wrong doing. This is not my opinion as it has been detailed in all communications from the UCI & WADA.

Your blatant flaming and trolling regarding this matter is tiresome.

If you really think that he is guilty then i suggest you focus your energy on attaining a position or role within WADA or the UCI where you can officially progres your vendetta to reach an endpoint that is obviously badly needed by you. Good luck.

You'll have no problem going into detail about what the evidence is then, will you? Repeating that there is evidence, isn't evidence in itself. This moron is perfectly happy that the hard of thinking can't stand that there is an opposing view.

Challenging a position is not rolling, so grow the fuck up. If you're tired,you know what you can do too.

Keep on supporting Froome, I don't fucking care. Let him race (UCIsay he can) I don't fucking care.

I'm surprised it took so long to not raise charges after an AAF. You seem to think it was simple, 9 months says it wasn't.  Not being charged does not prove innocent.

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Simon E | 5 years ago
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This is what happens when the media, assisted by the UCI leaker, Hinault & others, feed the barbarism. We've seen it repeatedly on this website and many others. The sport is the poorer for it.

Vaughters is expressing concerns about security: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jul/05/team-sky-tour-de-france-ri...

Thanks to all the haters for screwing things up, you fucking morons.

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khisanth | 5 years ago
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Disgusting behaviour, such ignorant barbaric people. Team Sky can shove it in their faces by winning it.

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S_P_A_C_E_M_A_N | 5 years ago
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Pathetic. I hope Sky do really well in the Tour. And not just because I have a tenner on G. Each way, mind.

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psling replied to S_P_A_C_E_M_A_N | 5 years ago
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S_P_A_C_E_M_A_N wrote:

Pathetic. I hope Sky do really well in the Tour. And not just because I have a tenner on G. Each way, mind.

 

To win or to crash?  3

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Pitbull Steelers | 5 years ago
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Disgusting behaviour from the alleged supporters of cycling. You could see the team were not impressed. 

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macrophotofly | 5 years ago
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So if there's no drug case to answer for and no one in the Sky team has recently crashed/abused/tripped a popular rival, then the only thing left to blaim must be....

Brexit!yes

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brooksby | 5 years ago
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That seems a bit harsh... I lose track, but haven't we now all agreed that if there was no case to answer on Froome's salbutamol matter, and the various governing bodies are all happy, then everything is copacetic...? 

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davel replied to brooksby | 5 years ago
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brooksby wrote:

copacetic

I had to look that up.

Chateau!

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hawkinspeter replied to davel | 5 years ago
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davel wrote:

brooksby wrote:

copacetic

I had to look that up.

Chateau!

Are you sure you didn't mean Gateau!

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