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19 thoughts on “road.cc live blog: Terpstra takes E3 Harelbeke, buy Lance’s house, limited edition Cannondale Supersix, bicycle-to-vehicle beacons proposed + more”

  1. CygnusX1
    March 23, 2018 at 10:02 am
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    Okay, I’ll bite…

    Okay, I’ll bite…

    Who will have to pay to retro-fit beacons to existing bikes?

    Who will pay to retro-fit the detection and collision avoidance technology to all the existing cars trucks, vans, lorries, buses and taxis out there?

    Who will be judged at fault in a collision between a beaconless bike and a sensor equipped vehicle?

     

     

     

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  2. Eton Rifle
    March 23, 2018 at 10:07 am
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    I’d like to have device on my
    I’d like to have a device on my bike that sent an electric shock to the bollocks of the driver of a car detected within a metre of my bike. Said shock to increase the closer the vehicle gets. I’d happily pay for that, in fact.

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    • burtthebike
      March 23, 2018 at 11:25 am
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      Eton Rifle wrote:

      I’d like to have a device on my bike that sent an electric shock to the bollocks of the driver of a car detected within a metre of my bike. Said shock to increase the closer the vehicle gets. I’d happily pay for that, in fact.

      — Eton Rifle

      Not a bad idea, but being run over by a woman is going to be just as annoying and painful.

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  3. pockstone
    March 23, 2018 at 10:20 am
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    And yet, a car supposedly

    And yet, a car supposedly dripping with the latest detection technology and fail safe automated braking systems  ploughs into and kills  a pedestrian crossing the road in Arizona. ?

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  4. Paul_C
    March 23, 2018 at 10:34 am
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    ermmm… bicycles already

    ermmm… bicycles already have retro-reflectors mounted on them… perhaps these vehicle systems ‘experts’ should consider devising some device which scans the field of view and detects reflected ‘light’… sort of like a radar does but with an infra red low power eyesafe laser?

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  5. hawkinspeter
    March 23, 2018 at 10:43 am
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    I’m calling bullshit on the

    I’m calling bullshit on the bike detection technology. Half the time, drivers can see the bike perfectly well, but will still insist on overtaking at inappropriate times/places and without any due consideration. How will a detection system improve that?

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  6. Yorkshire wallet
    March 23, 2018 at 10:48 am
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    Why do we keep trying to

    Why do we keep trying to invent things that dull the attention of road users? It’s bad enough that most cars resemble starship command inside now. The last thing we need is going from SMIDSY to sorry my detection system didn’t see you mate and besides I was looking at facebook anyway.

    My brother recently moved to Australia and said the driving standard is dire over there and reckons part of it is everyone driving automatics. It’s just a another level of disconnect from driving.

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  7. CarlosFerreiro
    March 23, 2018 at 10:55 am
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    Sensors to also measure

    Sensors to also measure passing distance and batch report anything too close? 

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  8. kil0ran
    March 23, 2018 at 11:00 am
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    Seems to me that that whole

    Seems to me that that whole thing would be monumentally hackable. The beacon will need to be small and low-powered so they’ll be really easy to hide. IBM announced tech this week smaller than a grain of rice that could be used for this.

    What’s to stop you, for example, hiding one in a manhole cover or on a bollard and bringing traffic to a halt? 

    Or taking primary and riding at 5mph preventing the vehicle from overtaking?

    Its all completely unworkable and the logical extrapolation will be to ban pedestrians and cycles (and motorcycles and horses) from areas where driverless vehicles operate.

    And then we get to my neck of the woods where there are unfenced roads and livestock roaming about – I guess that means they’ll all need to be tagged too.

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    • Piece_Maker
      March 23, 2018 at 2:48 pm
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      kil0ran wrote:

      What’s to stop you, for example, hiding one in a manhole cover or on a bollard and bringing traffic to a halt? 

      Or taking primary and riding at 5mph preventing the vehicle from overtaking?

      — kil0ran

       

       

      And this is exactly what we’ll get if this technology becomes mainstream. There’ll be places you can buy them in bulk from Chinese wholesalers, and they will be laid in weird patterns across the road to ‘assist’ motorists into a ditch. I could even lay them on the pavement in front of my house to stop people parking there!

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  9. Kendalred
    March 23, 2018 at 11:28 am
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    Re ‘Ouch’.

    Re ‘Ouch’.

    A Darwin Award must be in the post – especially if next time he smashes his bollocks into that wall!

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  10. burtthebike
    March 23, 2018 at 11:29 am
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    This appears to be a new

    This appears to be a new version of victim blaming; it’ll be the cyclists fault for not fitting the latest gadget.

    It is the responsibility of the people causing the danger to prevent/reduce that danger, not for cyclists and pedestrians to have to take actions to avoid being run over.  Make the vehicle technology safe or keep it off the road.

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  11. Grahamd
    March 23, 2018 at 11:35 am
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    Car detects bike with chip,

    Car detects bike with chip, driver ignores the warning, status quo. 

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  12. Pushing50
    March 23, 2018 at 11:39 am
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    It will not work in

    It will not work in Colchester.

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  13. Kojima
    March 23, 2018 at 12:06 pm
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    On the subject of bicycle /

    On the subject of bicycle / car sensors.

    Lets go a step further so the software in the car can detect dangerous overtaking distances between the two sensors, then feed this back directly to the driver’s insurance provider, who can then increase their insurance premiums accordingly.

    The government can offer a free standard version of the bike beacon, paid for by also offering a super-lightweight carbon fibre version for ‘proper’ cyclists who wouldn’t be able to resist the marginal gains.

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    • Grahamd
      March 23, 2018 at 12:07 pm
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      Kojima wrote:

      On the subject of bicycle / car sensors.

      Lets go a step further so the software in the car can detect dangerous overtaking distances between the two sensors, then feed this back directly to the driver’s insurance provider, who can then increase their insurance premiums accordingly.

      — Kojima

      Better still, switch the car to limp home mode with a max speed of 15 mph so that affected cyclist can taunt them for miles and miles and ….

       

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  14. jstone1
    March 23, 2018 at 12:44 pm
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    Most people probably already

    Most people probably already have a highly detectable beacon – their phone. It’s likely squawking out all sort of radio signals (WiFi, Bluetooth, ANT+, 3g/4g etc.) right now.

    It’s not “victim blaming” to envisage a future where road users are sharing speed, direction and position information in an effort to avoid hitting each other. It’s already used extensively in the air and at sea (AIS). At sea it’s mandatory for big heavy stuff to have AIS (>300t I think). E.g. http://shipfinder.co/ – and an awful lot of smaller craft use it as well along with sonar, radar and, yes, eyeballs.

    Maybe Garmin will bake their LiveTrack system into all their devices in future and build automotive versions…maybe they have already.

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  15. Sevenfold
    March 23, 2018 at 1:25 pm
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    “It is not easy for human

    “It is not easy for human drivers to see cyclists on the roads” Manuel Marsilio – general manager of the Confederation for the European Bicycle Industry

    Yes, actually it is QUITE easy to see cyclists on the roads IF you are paying attention & looking where you are pointing your two tonne lump of steel. With ‘friends’ like this in the industry, who needs enemies…

     

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  16. Eton Rifle
    March 23, 2018 at 3:19 pm
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    That Cannondale looks great.

    That Cannondale looks great.  You don’t often see British Racing Green on a bike.

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Blanket e-bike ban from trains and stations will have “devastating impact”, say cycling campaigners – as rail operator refuses to meet with cyclists and share evidence behind “huge backward step”
Cycling UK launches formal complaint over operator's upcoming ban, citing complaints of riders who rely on e-bikes as mobility aids
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Ahooga E-Max Alfine
Ahooga E-Max Alfine
Innovative and functional folder performs very well and should garner a strong following
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Lime disabled in London district after blind resident claimed pavement-blocking e-bikes ‘forced him onto busy road’
Lime disabled in London district after blind resident claimed pavement-blocking e-bikes ‘forced him onto busy road’
Lime apologises and disables e-bikes in Penge after partially sighted residents highlight issues with poor e-bike parking
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FLIT M2i folding e-bike weighs less than a Brompton Electric T Line – and costs half the price
FLIT M2i folding e-bike weighs less than a Brompton Electric T Line – and costs half the price
The 13.3kg Cambridge-built FLIT M2i is “the lightest fully folding premium e-bike” and is priced at £2,999
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Gtechniq has Gore-Tex set in its sights as brand unveils ‘next-generation’ PFAS-free Fabric Proof
Gtechniq has Gore-Tex set in its sights as brand unveils ‘next-generation’ PFAS-free Fabric Proof
Fresh DWR spray promises high abrasion resistance, greater longevity and easy installation without forever chemicals
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Police sergeant claims “under current legislation e-bikes are deemed to be motor vehicles” after targeted crackdown on illegal “nuisance” vehicles
Police sergeant claims “under current legislation e-bikes are deemed to be motor vehicles” after targeted crackdown on illegal “nuisance” vehicles
When approached by road.cc for comment, the sergeant clarified that “some e-bikes should be regarded as motor vehicles and hence require insurance and tax”
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Latest Comments

ajd 11 minutes ago

I heard she thought fixies were very lower class. She was once overheard saying "let them ride Campag"

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Barraob1 24 minutes ago

Most people know peadar is a bit of a clown and would say anything to grab votes.

in: “Massive” cycle lanes “taking over the streets”, claims Irish MP – in town where only 1km of bike paths have been built in a decade
IanMK 1 hour ago

@mitsky he will be interested to know there's quite a good rail service in to Swansea. It's only six months which is pretty light imo.

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IanMK 1 hour ago

'This exper­i­ence has been a sig­ni­fic­ant wake-up call for me and I can assure the court that I have reflec­ted ser­i­ously on my actions and taken steps to ensure this will never hap­pen again' Perhaps the six points you already had on your licence should have been the wake up call. Also, if I'm a judge, I'm thinking not bothering to show up in court doesn't scream remorseful. You are NOT a victim here Mr Cabango.

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ktache 1 hour ago

I really enjoyed Bastie Tronchon's victory.

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Mr Blackbird 4 hours ago

@the little onion It is quite galling to read that Cabango is the Swansea Captain. He is hardly setting a good example to his team mates and fans etc.

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a1white 4 hours ago

@leedorney Great, me neither, but reviews are written for people other than you and I. These are "Tubeless Ready" tyres. They are marketed to work as Tubeless, so it wouldn't be good if the reviewer didn't test them as tubeless for those buying them for tubeless use.

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mitsky 4 hours ago

@wtjs Entirely possible that it was a lie. Given the ban is in place, if he doesn't move his family could he be charged with lying in court?

in: “Is this all part of the propaganda to dump on cyclists?” Anger after The Sun reshares footage of cyclist hit by van driver from 2023; Footballer banned from driving after cyclist filmed him using phone; Vuelta sprint expected + more on the live blo
a1white 4 hours ago

@tomlew With that logic we should ban all laptops and mobile phones from trains.

in: Blanket e-bike ban from trains and stations will have “devastating impact”, say cycling campaigners – as rail operator refuses to meet with cyclists and share evidence behind “huge backward step”
wtjs 4 hours ago

@mitsky the ban would require him to move his family He was just telling a tale- it would be easier and cheaper to just pay for a driver/ chauffeur! Bet he doesn't move.

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