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Dad stops kid from crashing bike into parked car (+ link to video)

Footage goes viral - after soparking helmet debate

A video of a father dashing after his son to prevent him from crashing his bike into a parked car has been grabbing a l;ot of attention on Reddit - but not for the reason you might think.

 The footage, which you can watch here,  shows the father steadying his son's bike on a quiet suburban street before giving him a little push to help him on his way.

The father is jogging alongside his son as the youngster makes his first pedal strokes - then suddenly sprints into action as the nipper veers towards a parked car.

For many commenting on the video on Reddit, however, the quick-thinking father's prompt action to prevent a crash wasn't the most striking thing about the video, with the first commenter observing, "That kid needs a helmet" - an opinion that inevitably has sparked a debate on the subject.

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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OldRidgeback replied to brooksby | 6 years ago
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brooksby wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

brooksby wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

CygnusX1 wrote:
davel wrote:

Flying Spaghetti Monster bless us, every one! 

Ramen to that!

From my memory (I used to be affiliated with the Pastafarians) there's an interesting little graph that they often use. Maybe it deserves to be included here:

 

I think that increase is (possibly) connected to the Curse of Greyface, proposed by the Discordians...  I don't know if that's a genuine correlation or causation, mind.

Discordians? What a bunch of slackers!

 

fnord

The quality of mercy is not strained,

it droppeth as a gentle rain from heaven above...

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kitsunegari replied to dodpeters | 6 years ago
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dodpeters wrote:

Everybody I know that recommends wearing a helmet learned to ride without one...

I'm not really sure that this argument bears anything out other than a logical fallacy.

Cars 30 years ago were inherently unsafe, should we therefore remove all modern safety features from cars because drivers have survived?

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giff77 replied to kitsunegari | 6 years ago
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kitsunegari wrote:

dodpeters wrote:

Everybody I know that recommends wearing a helmet learned to ride without one...

I'm not really sure that this argument bears anything out other than a logical fallacy.

Cars 30 years ago were inherently unsafe, should we therefore remove all modern safety features from cars because drivers have survived?

 BS - cars have never been ‘unsafe’.  It has been the operators that have been the problem.  Look at that tragic incident in Birmingham last week. It never ceases to amaze me individuals are granted licenses to operate machinery on the roads. 

 

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BehindTheBikesheds replied to kitsunegari | 6 years ago
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kitsunegari wrote:

dodpeters wrote:

Everybody I know that recommends wearing a helmet learned to ride without one...

I'm not really sure that this argument bears anything out other than a logical fallacy.

Cars 30 years ago were inherently unsafe, should we therefore remove all modern safety features from cars because drivers have survived?

Not true, it wasn't the cars that were unsafe but the operators, have the operators improved in their behavior/habits since more 'safety' features have been added, I think not, quite the opposite, it's just that the tech sometimes gets them out of trouble and protects them, however such are the lowered behavioural issues with those feeling protected they still manage to globally kill 1.25million people and maim tens of millions and still suffer a ridiculously large ampount of head injuries (greater than in any other aspect in our society) despite airbags, crash protection systems, seatbelts tracgtion control and all manner of driver aids and protection systems.

Remove all 'safety' features and those outside the vehicle benefit massively(the reverse of what happened when seatbelts were brought in), change the behaviour/actions of those that are unsafe or remove them from the machinery that they harm with instead of trying to mask the problem through ever increasing tech that is flawed massively. Helmets would never ever be proposed as a solution to something that wasn't ever a problem until others decided to use a weapon to kill and maim with it, the problem would be taken out of the equation not add PPE as this is the final option as we know it is the weakest aspect of addressing safety.

I managed to drive a 850kg vehicle with no power steering, no airbags, no crumple zones, no impact beams and had basic non inertia seatbelts without harming another person or making anyone feel threatened. I never died driving it nor was ever injured, I don't see that it is the vehicle itself but the attitude of the driver that needs modifying and adding so called safety aids has a direct negative effect on that attitude/way of behaving, just as some people on bikes have their behaviour modified when they think they are safer by wearing a plastic hat.

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hawkinspeter | 6 years ago
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Ush replied to CygnusX1 | 6 years ago
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CygnusX1 wrote:

The Case of Crown vs Brick Wall

 

The Charge: Gross negligence of personal safety and endangerment to motorised traffic

 

The Accused: Any cyclist who chooses not to wear a helmet, or argues that other cyclists should be free to choose – Since there’s not enough room for them all, we’ll put BTBS in the dock as the most helmet-sceptical of the road.cc commenters.   

 

The Judge: The Hon. Mr. Rich_cb

The Jury: 12 good Rich_cb’s and true

Counsel for the prosecution: Rich_cb QC

The prosecution expert witnesses:  Rich_cb, Rich_cb & Rich_cb

The defence team: davel, ClubSmed, BlueBug, alansmurphy etc. etc.

The hecklers in the public gallery: hawkinspeter and Don Simon (are there any more circular argument gifs left out in the interweb?)

FFS.  It's obvious this is the wrong approach.  Rich_cb is a witch and any fool can prove it.  Throw him in front of a car with his helmet.  If he survives without appreciable damage (although it seems it will be hard to measure the functioning of his/her brain) then s/he is a witch.  If s/he doesn't then s/he is innocent.

Also have you considered the Rich_cb i may actually be a clever TensorFlow project trained up on all the years of helmet drivel comments?

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brooksby | 6 years ago
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If the comments reach 400 will the Internet explode??

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Tommytrucker | 6 years ago
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One can only hope.

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alansmurphy | 6 years ago
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400th post spot prize!

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hawkinspeter | 6 years ago
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Nope

 

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don simon fbpe | 6 years ago
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Bluebug | 6 years ago
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I go away for 24 hours and this thread is still alive...

Die Die Die

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drosco | 6 years ago
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It's long since become nothing more than sarky put downs. Yawn.

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beezus fufoon | 6 years ago
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this thread as become a bit like a long ride, you get halfway in and your arse hurts, your legs ache, your hands and shoulders are stiff, your mind is reeling at thought of going for two or three more hours, but then, having reached your target, you just don't wanna stop any more, you've become one with the bike

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ricardito replied to beezus fufoon | 6 years ago
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beezus fufoon wrote:

this thread as become a bit like a long ride, you get halfway in and your arse hurts, your legs ache, your hands and shoulders are stiff, your mind is reeling at thought of going for two or three more hours, but then, having reached your target, you just don't wanna stop any more, you've become one with the bike

Are we nearly half way there yet?

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check12 | 6 years ago
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Not sure, how long is a piece of string?

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hawkinspeter | 6 years ago
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So, anyone got any opinions about plastic spokes vs metal ones?

http://www.berdspokes.com/

Do they provide the same 'zing' as metal spokes and what can be done about it?

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Grahamd replied to hawkinspeter | 6 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

So, anyone got any opinions about plastic spokes vs metal ones?

http://www.berdspokes.com/

Do they provide the same 'zing' as metal spokes and what can be done about it?

More likely to consider environmentally sound bamboo.

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hawkinspeter replied to Grahamd | 6 years ago
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Grahamd wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

So, anyone got any opinions about plastic spokes vs metal ones?

http://www.berdspokes.com/

Do they provide the same 'zing' as metal spokes and what can be done about it?

More likely to consider environmentally sound bamboo.

You're completely forgetting about the weight/tensile strength of bamboo. Wooden't you need to make it heavier to approach the strength of metal?

 

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CygnusX1 replied to hawkinspeter | 6 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

So, anyone got any opinions about plastic spokes vs metal

Come back with some graphs and we can discuss.

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hawkinspeter replied to CygnusX1 | 6 years ago
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CygnusX1 wrote:
hawkinspeter wrote:

So, anyone got any opinions about plastic spokes vs metal

Come back with some graphs and we can discuss.

Well, I've posted the one above, but as it's you, have another one free of charge.

 

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hawkinspeter | 6 years ago
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Oops - wrong graph. Should have been this one:

 

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brooksby | 6 years ago
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OK, 400 and counting and the internet didn't explode...

road.cc admins: are you able to set a maximum threadcount and/or can we have a dedicated new forum ('helmet arguments'), as this is beginning* to get really silly.

 

 

*Actually, it got silly a loong time ago...

 

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beezus fufoon replied to Grahamd | 6 years ago
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Grahamd wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

So, anyone got any opinions about plastic spokes vs metal ones?

http://www.berdspokes.com/

Do they provide the same 'zing' as metal spokes and what can be done about it?

More likely to consider environmentally sound bamboo.

won't somebody please think of the pandas!

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don simon fbpe replied to beezus fufoon | 6 years ago
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beezus fufoon wrote:

Grahamd wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

So, anyone got any opinions about plastic spokes vs metal ones?

http://www.berdspokes.com/

Do they provide the same 'zing' as metal spokes and what can be done about it?

More likely to consider environmentally sound bamboo.

won't somebody please think of the pandas!

Pandas offer greater protection than polystyrene?

Who'd've thunk it?

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hawkinspeter replied to don simon fbpe | 6 years ago
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don simon wrote:

beezus fufoon wrote:

Grahamd wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

So, anyone got any opinions about plastic spokes vs metal ones?

http://www.berdspokes.com/

Do they provide the same 'zing' as metal spokes and what can be done about it?

More likely to consider environmentally sound bamboo.

won't somebody please think of the pandas!

Pandas offer greater protection than polystyrene?

Who'd've thunk it?

With all the "environmentalists" complaining about destruction of habitats and concreting over the Brazilian rain-forest, why don't they put their hands in their pockets and buy helmets for pandas?

Surely they're worth protecting aren't they?

 

 

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davel | 6 years ago
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You're interpreting it wrong.

Fall in cyclist deaths correlates with a marked increase in pandas?

Cyclists* are protecting pandas. Fooking hippies.

 

*Might also be pedestrians.

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CygnusX1 replied to davel | 6 years ago
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davel wrote:

You're interpreting it wrong.

Fall in cyclist deaths correlates with a marked increase in pandas?

Cyclists* are protecting pandas. Fooking hippies.

 

*Might also be pedestrians.

1. Panda populations are rising, this correlates with the rise in helmet usage on UK built up roads (94-08) data

2. Cycling pandas wear helmets (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FISOPJU0whE)

3. QED

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don simon fbpe replied to CygnusX1 | 6 years ago
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CygnusX1 wrote:

davel wrote:

You're interpreting it wrong.

Fall in cyclist deaths correlates with a marked increase in pandas?

Cyclists* are protecting pandas. Fooking hippies.

 

*Might also be pedestrians.

1. Panda populations are rising, this correlates with the rise in helmet usage on UK built up roads (94-08) data

2. Cycling pandas wear helmets (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FISOPJU0whE)

3. QED

I'm sorry, but this panda stuff isn't simply black and white.

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Grahamd replied to don simon fbpe | 6 years ago
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don simon wrote:

CygnusX1 wrote:

davel wrote:

You're interpreting it wrong.

Fall in cyclist deaths correlates with a marked increase in pandas?

Cyclists* are protecting pandas. Fooking hippies.

 

*Might also be pedestrians.

1. Panda populations are rising, this correlates with the rise in helmet usage on UK built up roads (94-08) data

2. Cycling pandas wear helmets (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FISOPJU0whE)

3. QED

I'm sorry, but this panda stuff isn't simply black and white.

Quite, there are red pandas as well.

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