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Irish Road Haulage Association: headphone ban more important than safe passing law

Organisation also moots a points system to keep bad cyclists off the roads

A lorry drivers association in Ireland is trying to push through a ban on cyclists wearing headphones.

The Irish Road Haulage Association also wants a points system to punish cyclists who flout the law.

“This is primarily about safety and education,” Verona Murphy, president of the road hauliers’ association, said, according to the Times. “A driver has no way of knowing whether a cyclist is informed about road safety laws, and that makes sharing the road very difficult.”

Speaking at the Oireachtas transport committee this week, Ms Murphy said that these sorts of measures would improve safety more than a 1.5m minimum passing distance for drivers.

She said this would be hard to enforce.

“In theory it makes sense, but I predict a lot of rows over whether the driver was or was not within the specific distance,” Ms Murphy said. “It would be just as easy for a garda to stop a cyclist for wearing headphones.”

Headphone wearing couriers, who took calls from employers as they rode their bikes, were the worst offenders, she said.

“They are the new boy racers, and they try to outdo each other with no regard for others on the road. It is just bad practice,” she said.

Cian Ginty, editor of Irishcycle.com, said: “A total ban would be completely silly. If you follow that logic, we should ban deaf people from cycling. No country in the world has a licensing system for cyclists because they do not pose enough of a threat and because it would be a waste of taxpayers’ money.”

In 2015 we reported how Brighton and Hove City Council came under fire from a number of cyclists for a safety poster intended to highlight the dangers of wearing headphones while cycling.

Featuring a man riding with headphones on, it reads: “Headphones can prevent you from hearing traffic. Share the road, share the responsibility.”

A number of cyclists were critical of the message and an adapted version has appeared on social media reading: “There’s no evidence wearing headphones is hazardous but we’re blaming cyclists anyway. Share the roads, take all the blame.”

Councillor Gill Mitchell, chair of the environment, transport and sustainability committee, defended the poster. She said that it was part of a larger campaign focusing on the dangers of distraction.

“The council’s road safety awareness campaign is aimed at motorists, cyclists and pedestrians, with six different posters carrying messages about the dangers of distraction from headphones, mobile phones and other devices.

“The campaign was launched following road traffic collision statistics for Brighton and Hove over the last three years which show that failing to look properly is by far the biggest contributory factor. As a new administration, we are committed to improving road safety in the city for all road users and will be looking at new and innovative ways to refresh our road safety campaigns and messages.”

 

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A2thaJ | 7 years ago
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I suppose if I had headphones on I wouldn't of heard that bmw pull alongside me yesterday, dangerously close, wind down his window and tell me to get out the f'in road and accuse me of being a w**ker. Seems important 

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captain_slog | 7 years ago
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Because without my headphones on I can hear the monster truck approaching in plenty of time to cower in the gutter in perfect safety while it hurtles past millimetres from my elbow.

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Yorkshire wallet replied to captain_slog | 7 years ago
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captain_slog wrote:

Because without my headphones on I can hear the monster truck approaching in plenty of time to cower in the gutter in perfect safety while it hurtles past millimetres from my elbow.

Well exactly. Are we supposed to pull over for approaching traffic or something?

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londoncommute replied to Yorkshire wallet | 7 years ago
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Yorkshire wallet wrote:
captain_slog wrote:

Because without my headphones on I can hear the monster truck approaching in plenty of time to cower in the gutter in perfect safety while it hurtles past millimetres from my elbow.

Well exactly. Are we supposed to pull over for approaching traffic or something?

 

Don't forget to doff your cap to the superior motorist in recognition of their generosity in allowing us to use their road.

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tritecommentbot | 7 years ago
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Agenda driven nonsense. 

Traffic is growing and negates any attempt at improving road safety in terms of numbers of people killed per year.  

The only solution is less motor traffic and restricted hours as to when lorries can go about their business. 

• • •

The facts. 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/fil...

A total of 24,610 people were killed or seriously injured (KSI casualties) in the year ending March 2016, up by 2 per cent from the previous year.

There were 187,050 casualties of all severities in the year ending March 2016, down by 2 per cent from the previous year.

Motor traffic levels rose by 1.8 per cent compared with the year ending March 2015.

The overall casualty rate per vehicle mile decreased by 4 per cent over the same period. 

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JimD666 | 7 years ago
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I wonder what would of happened if she'd said "Deaf people shouldn't ride bikes"?

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hoffbrandm | 7 years ago
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If I could hear the guy that was about to hit me what could I do if I wasn't wearing headphones vs wearing them?

 

isnt it on the driver not to kill me?

 

"at least he heard the Range Rover before it crushed him."

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nigerian prince replied to hoffbrandm | 7 years ago
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Exactly. If a car is approaching me at 130kph there isn't anything I can do to miss it. It's on each driver to pilot their vehicle in a responsable manner. 

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Jackson | 7 years ago
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I ride with in-ear headphones all the time and my ability to hear my surroundings is still better than in a car with the radio off. Unless we're going to ban radios in cars it doesn't make any sense. 

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ktache | 7 years ago
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With or without headphones, you can be killed by a 40 tonne artic.

If they manage to stay at least 1.5m away from you you cannot be crushed to death.  It's a physical impossibility.

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jasecd | 7 years ago
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What a lovely bit of buck passing, victim blaming that is. Denegrating cyclists as wilfully dangerous and the new boy racers  will definitely help change the minds of the dangerous and innatentive truck drivers out there - it's grossly irresponsible. 

Incidentally the mission statement of the IRHA is "Promoting professionalism, excellence and safety in road transport" - how exactly does this statement tally with this?

I'm sick to death of being scapegoated all beacuse one motoring group or other believes that it's acceptable to blame cyclists rather than encourage their members to change their often lazy and dangerous ways.

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