Organisers of the Tour de France Grand Départ in Yorkshire were yesterday forced to defend themselves against accusations of setting “outrageous” ticket prices for the team presentation in Leeds two days before the race begins – with the cost ranging from £45 to £85 for the event at the First Direct Arena in Leeds on Thursday 3 July.
Many fans directed their anger at the Le Tour Yorkshire Twitter feed, which responded throughout the day by pointing out that the event was being staged on a not-for-profit basis, that it would be on an unprecedented scale including as yet unspecified live acts, and that the venue was being provided free of charge.
Here’s one exchange:
@RonSydenham we want Team Presentation to be a real spectacle and all ticket revenue will go to making this happen. It will be a real show.
— Le Tour Yorkshire (@letouryorkshire) April 22, 2014
@RonSydenham I'm sorry to hear that but wanted to give some context behind our Team Presentation decision.
— Le Tour Yorkshire (@letouryorkshire) April 22, 2014
Some queried why the presentation was not being held in a public, outdoor space such as the city’s Jubilee Square, where more people would be able to watch it – and for free, as usually happens, including last year when teams were introduced to fans at the harbour of the Corsican town of Porto-Vecchio, and in London’s Trafalgar Square in 2007.
With what will be the 101st edition of the race approaching, as far as road.cc is aware there is a precedent of sorts for people being charged to attend a Tour de France team presentation.
That came three years ago, when it was held at a mock Gallo-Roman amphitheatre at the Puy du Fou theme park in France’s Vendée region; road.cc understands that while there was no separate charge to get into the arena itself, spectators did have to pay the park's 30 euro entrance charge.
Philip McDonald, sociology of sport lecturer at Leeds Trinity University, said that the ticket process for July’s event were “outrageous”.
He told the Yorkshire Post: “These events are traditionally free. With the exception of the one in 2011 they do not charge people for these things.
“It does seem otherwise free events are being priced out of the range of the majority of families,” he added.
In a press release yesterday, Le Tour Yorkshire said that the team presentation was on an unprecedented scale and it would be the first time the riders had been accompanied by live entertainment, with details of artists taking part to be revealed over the coming weeks.
The event is being overseen by Martin Green, who as head of ceremonies for the London 2012 Olympic Games helped deliver the opening and closing ceremonies.
Welcome to Yorkshire chief executive Gary Verity, who has described the event as a chance to “be part of a once-in-a-lifetime event for our county,” told the Yorkshire Post: “This is a not-for-profit event and ticket revenue will fund the event and help ensure that we deliver the biggest team presentation ceremony ever.
ASO sees the event as a blueprint for future editions of the Tour, although it's unclear whether that's in terms of the size of it, or charging people to attend, or both.
If the latter, that could mean that those who were lucky enough to be in Porto-Vecchio in July last year will be the last to have seen the riders introduced without having to pay.
Race director Christian Prudhomme said that July’s presentation “will be a first for the Tour and we hope it will become a template for team presentations in the future. It shows how much passion there is for cycling in the UK and Yorkshire’s Grand Départ.”
Pre-registration is now closed and tickets will go on sale on Friday at 9am.

69 thoughts on “Tour de France Grand Depart hosts slammed for “outrageous” team presentation ticket prices”
It’s typical. Any major
It’s typical. Any major sporting event that comes to these shores is an automatic excuse to gouge the British public of their hard-earned cash.
See:
Olympics
Rugby World Cup
Any football ‘European’ championship
We are seen as mugs who will pay.
No other country would allow their citizens to be fleeced as we routinely are.
Bastardos!!!
Doesn’t surprise me in the
Doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. I won’t be watching the tour by the roadside this year, but I would definitely go to France if I was.
Still, I look forward to watching the UK stages on TV 🙂
When i ‘registered interest’
When i ‘registered interest’ i caught on there would likely be a cost. i expected about £10 – £15 maybe £20 at tops. but the ‘cheap seats’ being £45 is craaaazy!! Moreover It drives real cycling fans away and attracts tourists!
I thought the tickets would
I thought the tickets would be free when I registered as well. It’s pretty tedious watching the team presentations on TV, so I can’t believe that anyone would pay for the ‘privilege’. Hopefully they will have a rethink and give the tickets away in a lottery.
For comparison … and I
For comparison … and I might get hissed at for mentioning Football on here … I have myself two tickets for my team in the Premier League against a the current champions at £40 each.
mckechan wrote:For comparison
Also, if you want to watch golf at The Open this year, you’ll be forking out £65-75 per ticket.
mckechan wrote:I have myself
£40 to watch your team play a mid-table side? Ouch 😉
Simon_MacMichael
He-he, well ever since my playground days, I’ve taken great satisfaction when my team beats Utd – I wonder what all the smug glory-hunters from yesteryear are thinking now? :))
Back to the cycling, I wasn’t really saying that 40 is cheap, but just thought it would be interesting to compare the ticket cost of a “top” premier league game with the team presentation.
mckechan
He-he, well ever since my playground days, I’ve taken great satisfaction when my team beats Utd – I wonder what all the smug glory-hunters from yesteryear are thinking now? :))
Back to the cycling, I wasn’t really saying that 40 is cheap, but just thought it would be interesting to compare the ticket cost of a “top” premier league game with the team presentation.— mckechan
Just £32 for an adult ticket at Selhurst Park, the Crystal Palace ground.
Anyway, yep the ticket prices look a bit steep. Will any of those going really care about being offered live entertainment?
I can’t say I blame the
I can’t say I blame the organizers. 90% of a cycling team’s revenue comes from sponsorship, whereas in football 10 – 20% of a Premier League team’s money is sponsorship based. Cycling lives from hand to mouth, and even then only barely.
Rather than comparing to free events, 45 quid for the opening ceremony of le Tour, compared to how much for the Olympics opening ceremony, would be a better comparison.
Gordy748 wrote:I can’t say I
Well, if all the money is going to the teams, that is a different matter. Can you cite your source on this?
And the opening of the
And the opening of the Olympics was a pointless exercise having nothing what so ever to do with sport.
I would love to know why the organisers think that live entertainment is needed.
Oh yeah, the presentation is dead boring.
I was on the Koppenberg
I was on the Koppenberg watching the Tour of Flanders. Big TV at the top, bar, friendly policemen, nice officials, no pettiness, great atmosphere, easy to access and all for free. I remember remarking to my brother if the Tour would be similar.
The Tour is a commercial
The Tour is a commercial event. I’m fine with that. Given that, any income should be paid back to the various public bodies that have paid out £10m to subsidise this commercial event.
I object to private enterprise profiting from public subsidy (that means you, train operating companies).
I am repeating myself here
I am repeating myself here but worth pointing out the team presentation for the Giro in Belfast is free.
I’ll be poised at my computer at 8.59 on Thursday morning to try and get a ticket!
If you can get cheap flights it may even work out cheaper to go to Belfast than get ripped off by the Yorkshire shysters.
Im sure all the MAMIL, full Team Sky kit wearing, hedge fund manager, weekend warriors who have been into cycling for 12 minutes will snap up the £80 tickets (and claim it back on expenses)
Do people want ‘live
Do people want ‘live entertainment’ to accompany the beginning of the bicycle race? Or do they just want to see the beginning of a bicycle race?
It seems out of character to make the opening ceremony a private show in a box, when the race itself is such an celebration and showcase of the beauty of the countries it covers; of it’s towns and countryside and character, spaces that belong to all of us.
It’s one of the few sports that doesn’t need a special venue. It uses entire countries as its venue, and any member of those countries can come and see it. It’s the most open, expansive sport I can think of.
Which is why it’s disappointing to see that it’s not sharing its beginnings out in the open. Instead it’s hiding away in a box, charging people to come and see it. If nothing else, it’s killed a little of the romance… And there’s no more romanticised race than Le Tour.
Quince wrote:Do people want
Fucks sake. What’s the big deal? They’re only charging for some nonsense ‘opening ceremony’ bollocks. You can still watch the actual ‘event’, when chaps with big thighs are riding expensive bicycles, completely for free by positioning yourself on any of the roads on which it passes. Isn’t that good enough value for you?
Joeinpoole wrote:Quince
Fucks sake. What’s the big deal? They’re only charging for some nonsense ‘opening ceremony’ bollocks. You can still watch the actual ‘event’, when chaps with big thighs are riding expensive bicycles, completely for free by positioning yourself on any of the roads on which it passes. Isn’t that good enough value for you?— Quince
I’m disappointed; not outraged. There’s a big difference. For starters, ‘disappointed’ doesn’t usually require the words ‘fuck’s sake’ to make itself understood.
They must have Prince or
They must have Prince or Springsteen performing if £45 a seat is break-even. Not-for-profit, indeed. I bet the consultants are doing okay.
I like reading the comments
I like reading the comments about this issue and everybody from both sides is sort of right, it all depends on where you are coming from with regards sport and how it should be run.
I think we will see the TOUR DE FRANCE organisation doing their best to big up the sport as much as possible year in year out as the sport of cycling becomes more and more main stream. But making things more of a spectacular cost money and spectators are going to have to pay, and probably not to cover cost but to make sure the numbers of spectators are kept to a manageable number.
There is no doubt that the start of the Tour in Leeds is going to be different, and set the bar higher for the TDF starts in future years. Not unlike the Olympics each start of the TDF event will be trying to out do the one the year before.
It is only natural that the money men get in on the act of a sport that is growing in popularity every day in every way.
Do I like it …….I am not sure yet, we will see just how good it goes in Leeds as it’s more of an experiment for the organisers.
With all the moans of having to pay, it will probably be a success and add gravitas to the whole Tour.
But here’s the point I would like to make for those that are yet to really understand the best way to watch the TDF.
I could wax lyrical about just jumping in your car with your bike on top and sleeping bag and tent in the boot, catching the ferry or euro tunnel and following the Tour on as many stages as possible as you get to enjoy the wonderful country that is France.
But when it boils down to it if you want to have the full injection when mainlining the addiction that is spectating at the Tour de France then these following words should be tattooed onto your cycling soul.
“Alpe d’Huez”
The Alpe is the mecca for all cycling fans which allegedly is used as a ski station in the Winter months it is THE PLACE to watch the Tour.
Sadly there is no Alpe d’Huez stage this year but next year ……. many will be booking their hotel soon 😉
Rupert wrote:Not unlike the
Last year was free and the teams turned up to a sunny, exotic island on yachts.
This year it is in Leeds Arena.
Yes, the venue may be free, but all they will get is an empty shell. They will have to hire in all the signage, sound, lights, staging, security and a myriad of other things. The costs are going to be fairly equal to staging the event outside.
According to the Utrecht
According to the Utrecht organisers, who I contacted, they said theirs is going to be free next year. So this is an attempt to subdue peoples frustration at the Yorkshire organisers!
Sounds an eminently sensible
Sounds an eminently sensible decision to me. An outdoor team presentation would be a very expensive event, a lot more than indoors in a free venue, that would take money from the budget for the event itself. I would want the money that is in budget to be spent on important things like spectator control, signage, safety etc. By adding entertainment they justify charging and keep the operational budget intact.
Cycling competes against
Cycling competes against other sports for sponsorship and marketing – that’s what keeps it alive at the pro level.
Taking what is essentially a pretty dull event and jazzing it up to get better TV and press coverage and attract a wider audience gives more exposure to the sponsors and teams.
If that means they have to charge to cover the cost then it is money well spent. Someone will buy the tickets.
Cycling’s business model isn’t exactly a candidate for being taught at Harvard. It needs to change.
Remember Blackpool once
Remember Blackpool once charged for the illuminations big switch on, what a disaster that turned out to be. I hope the flask and butties brigade do likewise and boycott the rip off, I know I will.
I would hope that a
I would hope that a proportion of the revenue raised from this event will be distributed amongst the teams.
As others have said above, the cycling “business” model is broken and if we want pro level cycling to continue then expect to have to start paying for tickets for what have previously been free experiences.
Now as to whether £45 – £85 is value for money for this type of event is another question, personally I doubt it.
Giro is free… well done
Giro is free… well done Belfast
mikeprytherch wrote:Giro is
Yeah well done Belfast on the free tickets.
However the online booking process was a nightmare-3 1/2 to 4 hours for most people spent looking at a queuing screen-I finally got mine after a lot of patience and mutual support via Twitter with other hardy souls!
Otis Bragg
Done and dusted in 45 mins. Sorry Otis couldn’t resist that one. Looking forward to it. The tourist board seems to have a done a grand job for the whole of the weekend if the programme is anything to go by.
You are lucky Otis, I spent 2
You are lucky Otis, I spent 2 hours 55 minutes just to get the sold out screen. Still well done to Belfast for offering the tickets for free
Claiming it is being run on a
Claiming it is being run on a “not-for-profit basis” seems to be stretching the truth a bit.
Whilst the Grand Depart as a whole might run at a loss, it’s laughable to suggest they won’t be making a profit from this event. That will presumably subsidise some of the other losses. I’d have more respect if they were simply up front about it.
dp24 wrote:Claiming it is
Leeds City Council and the ASO probably aren’t making any money out of it – but there will be a lot of suppliers who are! Is that a bad thing? Not for the local economy, it’s not, and if it’s paid for by a bunch of outsiders visiting just for the event, that’s a net gain to Leeds.
Like many, this kind of razzamataz has no appeal for me and I won’t even be watching it on TV, but if it helps bring the Tour to UK, I’m all for it.
The cost is pretty
The cost is pretty outrageous, mind you, if nobody pays and nobody turns up it might change things in the future. If everyone moans then fronts up the cash it’ll be the same for every event that ever comes to the UK – vote with your feet and your wallet, it’s that simple.
“uk” in trying to rip people
“uk” in trying to rip people off shocker…..people in paying said rip off prices…
This sounds like a lot of
This sounds like a lot of money for something people aren’t that interested in. If i want to go and see some live entertainment, a band etc. then i buy tickets to go and se a band. If i want to go and see the team presentation for le tour, I don’t really care about the ‘live entertainment’ alongside it and I wouldn’t pay between £45 and £80 for it that’s for sure. It does smack of trying to part people from their money for no other reason than because they can.
As for the claim this is a ‘once in a lifetime event’ um no it isn’t. The tour has been to the UK before (2007) so unless 7 years is considered a once in a lifetime event then it isn’t…unless of course they mean charging people to attend the presentations will be a once in a lifetime event.
I would be more then happy to
I would be more then happy to pay for a nice seat, a good view in a decent arena but just not at the prices that they are asking. Surely there will be screens and things on in Leeds so that fans can gather and still feel a part of it for free?
Yorkshire in ‘trying to get
Yorkshire in ‘trying to get money out of something which should be free’ shocker.
If you don’t like it don’t
If you don’t like it don’t buy it.
When companies claim ‘not for profit’ they don’t mean they are all doing it for free. They mean that anything left after their costs, fees, perks etc are paid for, some may be donated to a business that has charitable status (which is easy enough to get).
Reminds me of Comic Relief (invested in bombs and drugs) or the Etape Caledonia sportive:
http://road.cc/content/blog/71344-etape-caledonia-where-does-money-go
Get past the PR guff and a lot of the money doesn’t get to where you might think.
As for the claim this is a
and in 1994 and so time in the 70’s when they raced up and down a length of dual carriage near Plymouth before it was opened to the public.
In my opinion, Pandora’s Box
In my opinion, Pandora’s Box was opened at Box Hill, where the “market” was tested to see if UK fans would be prepared to pay to stand by the road. And it was packed, wasn’t it?
Organisers probably looked at Box Hill charging, plus the elevated prices for velodrome tickets, and the fact that plenty of riders here are happy to pay rather a lot to ride sportives, and thought that introducing ticketing would be a piece of cake.
I’m not saying it’s a good thing or a bad thing, but it’s an inevitable development as our sport becomes more mainstream.
Neil753 wrote:In my opinion,
The cost of sportives – or rather, people willing to pay larger sums to do them – is one that that’d occurred to me.
However, as someone that went to Box Hill – and I live a handful of miles from there – it it’s worth pointing out that the Box Hill tickets were £10 each – a lot less than any other Olympic ticket – and that there was a bunch of security/control required, and big screen/toilet facilities provided, so that felt vaguely reasonable in terms of cost offsetting. The numbers/area control were determined by the National Trust, so a free-for-all by *not* having access control wouldn’t have been an option:
http://positivenews.org.uk/2012/environment/conservation/8108/restoration-drama/
(It’s possible the NT received some funds for follow-up work, but I’ve no idea if that was the case)
JonD wrote:Neil753 wrote:In
The cost of sportives – or rather, people willing to pay larger sums to do them – is one that that’d occurred to me.
However, as someone that went to Box Hill – and I live a handful of miles from there – it it’s worth pointing out that the Box Hill tickets were £10 each – a lot less than any other Olympic ticket – and that there was a bunch of security/control required, and big screen/toilet facilities provided, so that felt vaguely reasonable in terms of cost offsetting. The numbers/area control were determined by the National Trust, so a free-for-all by *not* having access control wouldn’t have been an option:
http://positivenews.org.uk/2012/environment/conservation/8108/restoration-drama/
(It’s possible the NT received some funds for follow-up work, but I’ve no idea if that was the case)— Neil753
It’s a tricky thing Jon. A tenner doesn’t sound too bad, and I’m not blaming people who failed to understand how paying to stand by the side of the road has set a dangerous precedent, but it’s worth remembering that other events on National Trust property (the National Trust’s own Summer Solstice at Stonehenge for instance) are free for the common good and the crowd size, security and toilet arrangements are often very similar. The health and safety thing is a carefully crafted red herring; there are plenty of ways to restrict numbers without charging.
The thing is, Jon, we’re already seeing cycle sport starting to disappear up it’s own elitist a***hole, and if we price youngsters out of even standing by the roadside at good vantage points that Box Hill tenner could ultimately prove very costly.
UK public in “wanting
UK public in “wanting something for nothing” shocker!
You can see both sides of the argument. The organisers want to make it a big spectacle (more of an “opening ceremony”), which costs money. The sport wants to attract more attention, publicity & sponsorship. The public are used to seeing this fantastic sport (and the team presentation) for free.
Personally I’m not sure I’d bother going to see the team presentation – I’m more interested in seeing the stars racing their bikes. Some people will want to see it, and some of those people will be willing to pay the prices that have been set. Some tickets will be bought by companies to entertain clients.
However, are we really going to slate the Yorkshire organisers over this after they’ve led a hugely successful bid to bring the world’s greatest events to Yorkshire?!?!
Won’t it be on tv?
I’d
Won’t it be on tv?
I’d happily watch the presentation from the comfort of my sofa with a beer in my hand before going out to watch the actual race in the flesh
I’m very happy that Yorkshire
I’m very happy that Yorkshire got to host, it will be a great sporting spectacle and is well deserved but I decided not to go to Yorkshire. I can’t be bothered to get fleeced at a hotel then wait 8-20 hours at a spot on a hill to see 20 seconds worth of action. As for the opening presentation, I can’t think of anything more dull.
What a load of whinging
What a load of whinging minnies there are. You don’t like it? Don’t go. I wouldn’t be paying to go myself even if I was local, but if the place ends up sold out then they’ve got the prices right, whether you like it or not.
Gizmo_ wrote:if the place
If you think the only metric of success is maximised profits, they ought to price the tickets so as to have the venue only 90% full, give or take. A sell-out implies they could have charged more.
Anyway, they want an opening celebration rather than a trad team presentation – the idea is probably part of what won the bid, so good luck etc.
They still do a good free team presentation on the Champs Elysée after the day’s racing. Always a nice day, sunny too normally.
It’s hard to know where to
It’s hard to know where to start.
OK, low hanging fruit first. Did anyone see any of that Roman gladiator style presentation from a couple of years ago? I thought the whole point was to embarass the riders by making them do something stupid. Surely no one goes to these team presentations? Even if they are free?
Can we all get over that ever so slightly sickening sense of entitlement? Cycling is free to watch because the organisers haven’t worked out how to make you pay. Yet. As soon as they can do so – and Flanders Classics, the people who bought the rights to most of the early season races in Flanders, are leading the way in this regard – they will. Do other countries have the same sense of entitlement I wonder? Or is it just us with our (fiscally unsustainable) free at point of delivery NHS and our (postcode lottery, random outcomes) education system who have come to expect that someone (else) should pay for stuff that we consume?
Also, don’t diss wealthy newbies. So what if a some well paid private equity executive kits himself out in new sky kit and buys a sky replica Pinarello with flat pedals. He’s doing more for bike shops (and HMRC – all that 20% VAT) than most of the rest of us. We should all be applauding his selflessness. (It’s almost always a “he”.)
And finally, just don’t go. Don’t be outraged at the cost, really, you will miss absolutely nothing if you stay at home. Spend the money you save on something bike related (or better yet, beer), you’ll have a far better time (especially if you buy beer).
surly_by_name wrote:It’s hard
Possibly the most self indulgent and patronising post I’ve read this week but that aside, I don’t think people have a “sense of entitlement” and, by the way, I pay for the NHS service through my taxes (I’m not entitled to use it being a serviceman however) if you’re getting it for free I can only assume you’re a feckless lay about doley?
I think the point being made is that people don’t mind paying reasonable prices for something, they don’t like being bent over and shafted for cash.
I await you indignant and pithy response.
chrisp1973 wrote:
I await you
I’ll admit I struggle with pithy – verbose is more my thing, regrettably. I am not indignant about very much at all. Maybe the amount of tax I pay or maybe the way its spent, but that’s for another time.
I am about to go and ride my bike. You all stay safe and have fun.
The price is abit steep same
The price is abit steep same as most of the sportives these days. Over the last couple of years me and some friends have wanted to step up our riding, It seems that the CTT and Audax UK are the only organisers not trying to get their hands on the last of your pay check.
Its a joke that they out price anyone under 30 without exec or consultant to there job title. Luckily they cant expect to ticket the 00’s of K’s along the route where we can watch and dream
By the way, the headline
By the way, the headline prices are not the actual prices – they’re also charging a hefty booking fee.
Just checked the seating out
Just checked the seating out and without paying £73 the seats are pretty crap tbh
Just what is it that gives me
Just what is it that gives me a bad feeling about the whole event.
I am sure much of it will be great but I have horrible worries about the handling of it all.
I predict a complete underestimation of the crowds involved and consequently much bad feeling from those who wish to spectate and find that un publicised and/or unpredictable restrictions will inhibit such a thing.
Bet you a quid that a car gets onto the route after the roads are closed.
I do hope that everything goes well but something deep down just doesn’t give me a feeling of confidence.
I intend to go up to watch but I currently have no faith in the info pushed out by the organisers. As yet I cannot find every last road closure time, restriction on parking and access and anything else that may help or hinder me. I Shall be honest and say that it bloody well should be stitched up by now. f anyone would care to help me and provide me with links to such information I shall be very grateful.
Here’s hoping!
Was going to book, no sign of
Was going to book, no sign of the £45 tickets but the £55 soon turned into £64 after booking fees and postage was added. Not for me thanks, I will let the southern Mamils pay it.
Whilst I don’t agree with
Whilst I don’t agree with some of Mr Surly’s points I can’t see how the post is either self-indulgent or patronising.
And if you have never encountered the highly refined, British sense of entitlement you have indeed led a sheltered life.
mike the bike wrote:Whilst I
A sheltered life, hardly.
Entitlement, yes I’ve seen it, mostly from the benefit grabbing, baby producing great unwashed, it wasn’t really relevant here.
If you can’t read his post and see the indulgence and pick up on the patronising lecturing tone (much like this post) then I suggest you read it again.
If you must defend someone please, pick someone better to champion.
Oh, one last thing, where did you get your Pinarello and Team Sky kit?
chrisp1973 wrote:
Oh, one
Aaah, now I see it; the textbook example of patronising.
mike the bike
That’s the ticket old chap.
mike the bike
Walk into most NHS hospitals and you will find a load of people with this so called sense of entitlement. And no, the majority are not benefit grabbing baby producing etc etc. The are the refined elite, who feel that their higher tax bracket salary entitles them to special treatment.
indyjukebox wrote:mike the
Walk into most NHS hospitals and you will find a load of people with this so called sense of entitlement. And no, the majority are not benefit grabbing baby producing etc etc. The are the refined elite, who feel that their higher tax bracket salary entitles them to special treatment.— mike the bike
Funny, I’d have thought they’d have gone private?
chrisp1973 wrote:indyjukebox
Walk into most NHS hospitals and you will find a load of people with this so called sense of entitlement. And no, the majority are not benefit grabbing baby producing etc etc. The are the refined elite, who feel that their higher tax bracket salary entitles them to special treatment.— indyjukebox
Funny, I’d have thought they’d have gone private?— mike the bike
What’s the emergency number for private patients? Or do they dial 999 like the other proles before being put through to their concierge?
farrell wrote:chrisp1973
Walk into most NHS hospitals and you will find a load of people with this so called sense of entitlement. And no, the majority are not benefit grabbing baby producing etc etc. The are the refined elite, who feel that their higher tax bracket salary entitles them to special treatment.— chrisp1973
Funny, I’d have thought they’d have gone private?— indyjukebox
What’s the emergency number for private patients? Or do they dial 999 like the other proles before being put through to their concierge?— mike the bike
I don’t know, I have the butler dial.
farrell wrote:chrisp1973
Walk into most NHS hospitals and you will find a load of people with this so called sense of entitlement. And no, the majority are not benefit grabbing baby producing etc etc. The are the refined elite, who feel that their higher tax bracket salary entitles them to special treatment.— chrisp1973
Funny, I’d have thought they’d have gone private?— indyjukebox
What’s the emergency number for private patients? Or do they dial 999 like the other proles before being put through to their concierge?— mike the bike
Don’t we all have a private physician on hand 24/7? Just me!?!
But the prices *do* seem
But the prices *do* seem astronomically high, don’t they? For a team presentation?
I love pro-cycling (obviously) but the mania building around this is starting to get to me. More and more tempted to just stay at home, avoid the hassle. Does that make me miserable?
So, Yorkshire wants to get
So, Yorkshire wants to get the most publicity it can so it’s going to get some live acts to gain media attention. It needs to fund these acts, so needs to charge. I’m delighted that the taxpayer isn’t funding it. This is all about getting international TV attention.
I don’t usually expect to pay to see a TV show being recorded (not a sense of entitlement but Jeez Britain does suffer with many who have it), but people still turn up at football grounds with every league game having cameras these days.
So, my question is, should it be about cycling or showbiz? Whatever the right moral answer, one look at the indulgent Olympic ceremonies tells you about the modern televised world.
BTW, team presentations are not entertaining, does anyone here really want to see it? Especially with a load of ‘has been’ and ‘wannabee’ entertainers tacked on! Yuk!
I got a ticket for the simple
I got a ticket for the simple fact this is a once in a life time in Leeds also Leeds are changing the format from just a “team presentation” Leeds is making it a opening ceremony type affair.
Expensive yes but its a one off.
“details of artists taking
“details of artists taking part to be revealed over the coming weeks”…maybe if the ‘artistes’ were announced before the tickets went on sale, people would not have been so hostile… having said that maybe no reveal is on purpose… can’t say i’m a big fan of Black Lace #agadoo-do-do!
Could have offered free
Could have offered free tickets to us volunteers as a thank you.