Rider Names - Tour de France

Gkam84 wrote:

So the red names are the ones that need changed?

Yep. The red ones are the ones that should appear in the game, the ones from the UCI. It´s clearer in the spreadsheet. And oops, I thought I had left this one out, but its there…

enrique wrote:

Steven Cummings in the game is 'Stephen' on the UCI website

I´ll be glad to look at any other rider lists you have...

JAndrewHill wrote:

I can confirm that there is no cyclist of that name on twitter. ...

Heh heh

Gkam84 wrote:

All world team riders should now match up to the UCI listing. Conti teams will get done next week...

Woo hoo! Yeah! Thank you, Gkam! I'll be more than happy to check the Pro Continental team list next week… I think that includes 'Kevyn' or 'Kevin' Ista, who I'll probably write to the UCI about, too..

Twybaydos wrote:

If in any doubt, check the rider's twitter. That's what they want to be called...

I agree with you Twy… But source wise, well, crap, I understand G's insistence on using the 'official' source… Though I would trust you more than the UCI or even the teams!

Astana, for example, writes on its team site that the team had a Classics 'brakethrough' (http://proteam-astana.com/2013/12/24/classics-brakethrough/)...

You seem to know a lot about Russian… I've been wondering how you picked it up? Family? School? Locals?

Anyways, just like you said:

Twybaydos wrote:

… I think you'd better grovel to the UCI… admitting your mistake

and I took offence to that, I also take offence to you speaking of my :

Twybaydos wrote:

...diligent romanisation of names...

I take offence to that. You can characterise my efforts as 'diligent' but you may not characterise them as a 'romanization' of names, kind sir. I am not taking creative liberties with translations, my dear Twy, I, sir, am merely reporting discrepancies I have found on the names of riders between how they appear on their team website and the game start list. You, sir, are claiming the knowledge to know how a language is being rightly or wrongly translated, sir, not I, and though I applaud your knowledge, I do not take kindly to your characterisation of my efforts. *hrumph*.

When, oh, when, will you decide to 'grovel up to me' with an apology for twisting my 'words' and 'actions' ? I'm waiting for it, kind sir. Please, sir, do not ignore this simple request. You, sir, sound like a proper and reasonable individual. I, sir, think it not unreasonable that you apologise for your behavior. That in itself, sir, would say a lot about your manners and upbringing, kind sir, and, it would mean a lot!

Joelsim wrote:

... Could someone look into this please?

I'm sorry, I was eating a late breakfast, I'm back now...

Gkam84 wrote:

...All world team riders should now match up to the UCI listing...

They look beautiful! I am so happy...

Gkam84 wrote:

... might get conti done this week coming.

*sigh* Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwhqLFNrTjI

Gkam84 wrote:

[Mauricio] Henao is spelt right...

I just could't find him on the UCI Team Tinkoff Saxo roster (http://www.uci.ch/templates/BUILTIN-NOFRAMES/Template1/layout.asp?MenuId...) which the game has him assigned to. I couldn't find him on PCS, either... or on cyclingfever (http://www.cyclingfever.com/team.html?team_idd=OTQ0Mw==).

There is a 'Maurizio Henao Jaramillo' (http://www.cyclingarchives.com/coureurfiche.php?coureurid=7580) on the cylingarchives.com site, but I don't see him on the roster for Tinkoff Saxo either...

Gkam84 wrote:

... the twitter you are showing is for a Colombian actor...

I know *sigh* I put him in there for comedic effect. He's famous for doing 'telenovelas' (soap operas) and he's 'beefcake' for the ladies in Miami and South America and every year he's on someone's list of 'The Most Beautiful People' of Latin TV... I thought it was funny he said he 'eing a [m]an is... hard..., i want to be [one] before im done'... I thought you might relate.. a little...

Back to the rider, then, thanks for 'inactivating' him! Shouldn't he out of the game completely, then? Even if the entry refers to 'Mauricio Henao Jaramillo', he doesn't seem to be an active rider anymore... Just wondering It seems like he last rode in 2004...

Gkam84 wrote:

The birthday does match that rider listed above though.

http://www.letour.com/la-fleche-wallonne/2014/us/riders.html

Hmmm... the birthday does (!) match the rider in cyclingarchives.com, That's interesting! Hmmm... http://www.cyclingarchives.com/coureurfiche.php?coureurid=7580 It seems he may not have ridden in a while or someone never wrote about him or tracked him... Hmmm... Interesting...

Gkam84 wrote:

He's still on the official startlist, so don't count him out yet

@ProCyclingStats just tweeted they think it must be Edward Beltran... Interesting ... The suspense is killing me...

Gkam84 wrote:

... look who appears there as well....

Ha ha ha! That's amazing! I tweeted @flechewallone, no answer yet, but this just takes the cake! Amazing! What a verstaile rider! I bent over laughing so hard! Thank you! If we ever have a coed season long Purist competition, I'm putting him on my team!

enrique wrote:

I can't find... Martijn Keizer in the game...

Thank you!

Gkam84 wrote:

It seems someone moved him for me...

Probably. That's good, though! I know you haven't gotten around to the Pro Continental Teams but I was looking at the Giro D'Italia start lists and looking at Team Colombia I see that Edwin Alciviades Avila in the game appears as Edwin 'Alcibiades' on the UCI page and the Team Colombia website...

I have a suggestion. You probably have all these folks at Team Colombia and probably most of the riders from Spanish Speaking countries down with their first name, middle name , father's last name and mother's last name...

The truth is, with all these Spanish and Latin American names, you could probably do away with their middle names for the game. For the most part, riders, like Segio Luis Henao, are usually just called Sergio Henao, Nairo Alexander Quintana could easily just be called Nairo Quintana, etc...

It would make the names shorter, the database neater and it would visually look less congested with less names around a rider...

I would even get rid of the mother's last name, as in Igor Anton Hernandez, and just use Igor Anton, and only use the mother's last name to distinguish two riders who have identical first and last names, if necessary... I think it would look neater that way... Thanks!

Gkam84 wrote:

...Will go check the UCI

... that's where the screenshot I put up came from...

enrique wrote:

'Ariel Maximiliano Richeze' in the game should be 'Maximiliano Ariel Richeze'

Thank you by the way...

Gkam84 wrote:

... his UCI license says Kueng...

Retiro lo dicho entonces...

enrique wrote:

Peirre-Luc Perichon (Bretagne Seche Environnement) in the game should be 'Pierre'...23rd February 2015

Pierre Luc Perichon still appears in the game as 'Peirre'...

enrique wrote:

... Mikel Landa and Dan Martin have 'spaces' after their names in the database, as in 'Mikel_Landa_' and 'Dan_Martin_'...

Emanuel Buchmann also has a space after his name in the game database, as in 'Emanuel Buchmann_'

enrique wrote:

... You probably have... most of the riders from Spanish Speaking countries down with their first name, middle name , father's last name and mother's last name... For the most part, riders, like Segio Luis Henao, are usually just called Sergio Henao, Nairo Alexander Quintana could easily just be called Nairo Quintana, etc... It would make the names shorter, the database neater and it would visually look less congested with less names around a rider...

Since it's not that busy for a while now, wouldn't it be nice to clean up the Latin American and Spanish names to make for shorter names? I can provide you a list if you want...

Gkam84 wrote:

If you care to check the startlist on the official site, you will see him [Mauricio Henao] listed...
http://www.letour.com/la-fleche-wallonne/2014/us/riders.html

And just as mysteriously as he appeared, he disappeared. Wow. I wonder what happened? The mysterious 'Mauricio Henao'. Will he ever ride again? I wonder why Saxo Tinkoff put him on the start list for La Fleche? Hmmm... he never showed on the PCS or cyclingfever start lists, or on the UCI website roster or on the Saxo Tinkoff website, but he did make a very brief appearance on the 'official' start list... The mysteries of the peloton are many... Fare thee well, Mauricio, I hope we meet again... and you come back to ride as a 3.0 rider again... We could certainly use you at the Tour...

stumps wrote:

Where do you think he got his 1100 posts from ?

I'm trying to catch up and you're making it extremely difficult by responding to each and every one of my posts

Twybaydos wrote:

So they have now misspelled Tsatevich...

Is there a difference in pronunciation between one spelling and the other?...

northstar wrote:

...you certainly are a stickler for detail...

I am... I like my things prim and proper... I had a proper English upbringing with a proper English, actually Scottish, 'headmaster' and all!

Twybaydos wrote:

... admitting your mistake

Grovel, sir? Admit my mistake? Me? I will do no such thing! I beg to differ, sir. I, sir, do not make mistakes I refuse to do such a thing, of course!

Because of this below, sir. Here's what I wrote to them:

enrique wrote:

I... wanted to point out some differences in the rider names as they appear on the various team websites and the UCI website.

... The following are riders whose names I think have may have been misspelled. I apologize if I am mistaken.

Alexey Tsatevitch is Alexey 'Tsatevich' on the Katusha website. The last name has no 'T' on the website.

http://www.katushateam.com/the-pro-team/alexey-tsatevich/

Javier Acevedo should be 'Janier' Acevedo. Javier is the most common name, but the rider's name has an 'n' in the middle rather than the more common 'v'.

http://www.slipstreamsports.com/riders/janier-acevedo/

Ion Izaguirre's last name on the Movistar website is Ion 'Izagirre', with no 'u' in it.
(http://www.movistarteam.com/equipo/ion-izagirre)

His brother, Gorka, of course, also has the same last name.
(http://www.movistarteam.com/equipo/gorka-izagirre)

Thank you!

An apology is expected, kind sir.

Twybaydos wrote:

...Tsatevich's twitter handle is @TsatevichAlexey... his English looks good enough to be relied upon to spell his own name.

I will write them back, of course. But there is no mistake to be admitted to on my part In fact, you (!) sir, are mistaken about my being mistaken and should come 'groveling' to me admitting your mistake about my being mistaken (!)

Joelsim wrote:

... You should be an accountant...

I'm an old, useless bureaucrat, at heart, fond of tradition and things done properly and, of course, of doing the proper thing. We're a relatively useless family, you see, my grandfather was a government bureaucrat, my father is a lawyer and I, well, I used to teach, so, you see, we quibble about the tiniest of things in a constant effort to upstage one another... Truly useless but highly entartaining And we have fun doing it!