Can cyclists and pedestrians co-exist on towpaths?; Primoz Roglic wins thrilling summit finish at La Vuelta; Movistar rider shares crazy picture of veiny legs; Driver crashes £260k Ferrari – narrowly missing cyclist + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Brutal summit finish on stage eight
Stage 8 sees the peloton take on another summit finish, with this looking the hardest of the race so far.
The final climb of Alto de Moncalvillo is officially 11.3km @ 7.6%, but most of the final 7km is above 9%.
A big day for the GC guys.
You're on camera
This great idea from cyclegaz lets all road users know in no uncertain terms that they’re being recorded.
Twitter in meltdown over Roglic's multicoloured kit
What a look… #LaVuelta20 (📸 Getty) pic.twitter.com/A45KSyeWqw
— Daniel Ostanek (@LVCKV) October 27, 2020
Poor Primoz Roglic isn’t having much luck with clothing at La Vuelta.
First it was losing time on stage six because he couldn’t put his rain jacket on and now he has united Twitter in horror at his stage seven green and yellow monstrosity.
The Slovenian’s green points jersey matched with yellow Jumbo-Visma kit has left fans, pundits and team managers shocked at it’s, well, brightness…
— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) October 27, 2020
— Amy White (@akwca) October 27, 2020
Even manager of the EF Pro Cycling, Jonathan Vaughters, got involved suggesting humorously that the UCI should take action.
I mean…. Fine? Penalty? Anything? Hello @UCI_cycling !! This is a crime against all mankind!! And yet…it goes unpunished…. https://t.co/c84xVzZCm7
— Jonathan Vaughters (@Vaughters) October 27, 2020
EF Pro Cycling were fined by the UCI during the Giro d’Italia for failing to clear in advance their striking Rapha and Palace kit.
More Roglic laughs
it’s like these two had a baby together… pic.twitter.com/pHPoYX3hJQ
— Ruby (@ruby_roubaix) October 27, 2020
ummm 🤔 pic.twitter.com/DLpkIIbBlT
— Meera Devrahi Singh (@MeeraDevrahi) October 28, 2020
It seems Twitter isn’t finished with the Slovenian national champion just yet.
Worst cycling kits ever made
Primoz Roglic has got us thinking… we’ve had a trawl through the archives and found three other woeful cycling kits for your amusement.
First up, the Hairy Nude kit which comes with the promise to “get motorists looking twice”.
How about this Pirate Juice number…
Finally, this bizarre Giro Toscana kit which was described by one Twitter user as: “Worst designed garment of clothing in the history of the human race.”
Let us know, what’s the worst cycling kit you’ve seen?
Driver crashes £260,000 Ferrari into London bridge - narrowly missing cyclist
Footage shows a Ferrari crashing yesterday central London pic.twitter.com/jue74UwRsi
— London & UK Crime (@CrimeLdn) October 27, 2020
This shocking footage shows the moment a driver crashed the £260,000 supercar into Lambeth Bridge.
The driver can be seen accelerating sharply before losing control of the Ferrari as it ploughed into the wall on the side of the bridge.
A cyclist rides past the driver just seconds before the car veers to the right on the 20mph stretch of road.
The Metropolitan Police confirmed they are investigating the incident.
Tom Dumoulin abandons La Vuelta
We have decided that I will leave the Vuelta. Both our coaching staff and I think it is the best choice to get off the bike. At the start of the Vuelta I already felt tired and that feeling remained. It makes no sense for me to continue. (1/2) pic.twitter.com/w1yiw4U1Xx
— Tom Dumoulin (@tom_dumoulin) October 28, 2020
Driving on the Big Screen
Jardine Motors have crunched the numbers to find out just how bad the driving in our favourite films is.
And it turns out 007’s greatest villain could well be the humble speed camera.
James Bond would have lost his licence four times in just a two minute sequence in Skyfall had his driving been performed on the open road.
Richard Freeman latest
The Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service hearing for former Team GB and Team Sky doctor continues in Manchester this week.
Yesterday Freeman was accused of attempting to have another doctor removed from Team Sky following a dispute over whether the team should change its policy on intravenous recovery methods.
Freeman insisted his issue with Dr David Hulse in fact stemmed from his care of Txema Gonzalez, the Team Sky staff member who died at the Vuelta a Espana in 2010 following a bacterial infection.
Jose Joaquin Rojas' legs
We all know how hard professional cycling is but Movistar rider Jose Joaquin Rojas has provided another reminder with this Instagram post.
The picture was taken after stage seven of the Vuelta on the day Rojas’ teammate Alejando Valverde finished third on the stage and moved back into the top ten of the overall classification.
After Pawel Poljanski posted a similar picture at the 2016 Tour de France we did some digging to answer the question of why pro cyclist’s legs are so veiny?
Obstruction in the bike lane...
Road crossing 🙀 pic.twitter.com/EnKuM4uIsx
— José Been (@TourDeJose) October 28, 2020
Giro d'Italia street art
12 tele a cielo aperto firmate da 9 diversi #StreetArtist lungo il percorso del #Giro103. E’ Cabine in Rosa, l’iniziativa di Street Art di @edistribuzione che ha colorato il percorso del #Giro 103.
Scopri tutte le #CabineInRosa di #EDistribuzione in questo video 👇 pic.twitter.com/T8J6pocKxd— Giro d’Italia (@giroditalia) October 28, 2020
It’s often said the Giro d’Italia is the most beautiful of the Grand Tours and Italian electricity provider e-distribuzione have continued that legacy with these sub-stations decorated to celebrate the race route.
Former world champion in the break at La Vuelta
🏁Etapa 8 – Stage 8 | #LaVuelta20
🚴🚴🚴 Cavagna, Costa, Madrazo, Simon, Stannard, Dewulf, Dyball
⏱️ + 4’46
🚴🚴🚴🚴🚴🚴 Pelotón | GC Group👉https://t.co/zqaO4Bw62K pic.twitter.com/mELN8MvJfR
— La Vuelta (@lavuelta) October 28, 2020
Rui Costa is up the road on stage eight of La Vuelta. He’s accompanied by six other riders including Remi Cavagna and stage winner in last year’s edition Angel Madrazo.
Department for Transport reject calls for road closures, ‘school streets’ and new cycle lanes to be scrapped
.@transportgovuk‘s response to a petition calling for the removal of all active travel schemes in the country is all kinds of brilliant. pic.twitter.com/ziTqUcmNcL
— Sarah 🍓 (@SarahJ_Berry) October 28, 2020
The Department for Transport has rejected calls to reverse temporary traffic measures, such as road closures and new bike lanes, brought in during lockdown to reduce crowding.
The petition claims: “Although well intentioned, the experiment has failed. Government guidance supporting such measures, and funds for them, should be withdrawn immediately.”
Thankfully the Department for Transport’s reply was strong in its support for these schemes and offered a comprehensive explanation for why such measures should remain.
It said: “Evidence also shows that investment in cycling and walking is supported by the majority of people in local communities. Although some schemes have attracted negative attention, this is still only a small minority of the people living in those areas.”
“The more people that cycle and walk, the more road space is freed up for those who really need to drive. Encouraging more cycling and walking is a key part of the Government’s efforts to reduce harmful emissions from transport, as well as to help make people healthier.”
Wales and Northern Ireland top the pile for search data research into interest in cycling
Research by Leisure Lakes Bikes into search data suggested that Wales was the area of the UK where cycling is most popular.
“Across the UK we’ve seen huge increases in bike sales as people seek out outdoor activities to support their mental health through lockdown. The search data for the various terms has highlighted that Welsh people really enjoy cycling,” Ben Mercer of Leisure Lakes Bikes explained.
Northern Ireland was close behind in second for total searches per 100 thousand people, with Scotland third.
In England the south east and east of the country had the highest proportion of searches – however London had the poorest number of searches per 100 thousand people
Another day, another laptop
For those keeping score of laptops in the Freeman case… we’ve a mention of a 5th! The first was stolen in Greece. The 2nd was damaged with a blunt instrument. Freeman could not get data off a third, a PC. A 4th, Freeman’s own Apple one, could’t be charged the other day. Now …
— Sean Ingle (@seaningle) October 28, 2020
British Cycling have introduced a fifth laptop to proceedings at Dr Richard Freeman’s medical hearing in Manchester.
As per Sean Ingle, the fifth laptop has “uploaded material from the server” and has been brought forward for Freeman to look at.
The whereabouts and condition of laptops has become a running theme of the hearing with Freeman claiming he had one stolen in Greece and destroyed a second device over fears about hackers accessing data.
Freeman also claimed he could not get data off a third laptop, while the fourth device brought into proceedings was not charged.
Yesterday Freeman was accused of attempting to have another doctor removed from Team Sky following a dispute over whether the team should change its policy on intravenous recovery methods.
Freeman insisted his issue with Dr David Hulse in fact stemmed from his care of Txema Gonzalez, the Team Sky staff member who died at the Vuelta a Espana in 2010 following a bacterial infection.
Can cyclists and pedestrians co-exist on towpaths?
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The news that Henley Town Council have reversed the ban on cyclists riding the towpath through Mill and Marsh Meadows in the Oxfordshire town has reignited debate over whether cyclists and pedestrians can safely co-exist on such narrow routes.
The town council introduced a ban on cyclists during the summer but have decided to allow bikes access again, with warnings that those doing so should ride responsibly and give pedestrians right of way.
Councillor Laurence Plant said: “I’m a really keen cyclist and I think the two groups can co-exist apart from a few who are ill-mannered and lacking respect for others.”
“There’s the odd issue but most of the time things flow seamlessly. We don’t want to explicitly encourage people to come and cycle here but we should encourage good behaviour in those who do.”
It is understood the ban on cycling was introduced following an altercation between a cyclist and member of the parks services team.
What do you think? Can cyclists and pedestrians co-exist safely on towpaths?
Carthy and Kuss lead with 3km to go
🏁 -3,5 km | Etapa 8 – Stage 8 | #LaVuelta20
🇪🇸 ¡Hugh Carthy y @seppkuss cogen unos metros!
🇬🇧 Carthy and Kuss are now leading the race!👉https://t.co/zqaO4Bw62K pic.twitter.com/VZoaDOXRY4
— La Vuelta (@lavuelta) October 28, 2020
Primoz Roglic wins stage eight but Richard Carapaz keeps race lead
🏁Etapa 8 | Stage 8
🙋🏻♂️🏆 PRIMOZ ROGLIC @rogla 🏆#LaVuelta20 pic.twitter.com/64RTuigDfZ
— La Vuelta (@lavuelta) October 28, 2020
Primoz Roglic won a thrilling summit finish on stage eight of La Vuelta a Espana, beating race leader Richard Carapaz by 13 seconds with Irishman Dan Martin in third, 19 seconds back.
On the steep slopes of the final climb, Roglic and Carapaz exchanged attacks having caught lone attacker Alexandr Vlasov within the final two kilometres.
Carapaz kept the red jersey but has seen his advantage to Roglic slashed to just 13 seconds.
More on the towpath debate
I won’t cycle on a towpath again. Too much hassle for people out walking, especially if they’ve got bairns. Let them enjoy it 😊
— Jock Spiers (@StSpiersy) October 28, 2020
The reason there is conflict on towpaths is because cyclists and walkers have been squeezed out of everywhere else by pollution and threatening traffic. If we didn’t have canals and abandoned railway lines, there would be almost no traffic free routes at all!
— Roland Rat Run (@TFacists) October 28, 2020
Why would I want to ride on a poor surface inches from frigid filthy water?
— Firswood cyclist (@JonesGregoire) October 28, 2020
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@Rendel Harris Hmm.... I stand corrected. I still think Obree had a /lot/ more talent. And Jan-Willem today clearly has dropped in levels, relative to those he's racing against.
I cycled a lot on the continent and have done fir many years. I've never been close passed, and only once had a scary overtake by an oncoming vehicle. Im close passed almost daily in the UK and dangerous overtakes are common. Some serious driver education is needed here, not to mention presumed liability legislation.
@TrainWalkWheel at least one person on here seems to have better understanding of these than I do but AFAICS the model is even less likely to lead to good outcomes than happened with eg. a certain UK bus company. The one notorious for moving into an area, putting the existing providers out of business by running more services for pence and losing money, then - having captured the market - jacking up the price and dropping services. At least in that case the intention was presumably to deliver a self-sustaining service in the end (albeit perhaps a worse, overpriced one). But AFAIK mass bike share itself has never made money directly. So one wonders what the end plan is if any one of these market-share-capture firms actually won? (Presumably that isn't important and it's all about trading / financial shenanigans in some way. I doubt they could hold the local authority to ransom for the extra cash...)
Alas it's another part of "because cars / 'change', we can't just copy a well-proven design eg. from NL" On top of this is the UK "not invented here" making it up / no expertise or standard designs AND a "we must fit cyclists in around existing road space" causing strange contorted layouts. So what happens is we get things like bi-directional cycle *lanes* (not separated cycle paths) because cheapest / easiest to patch in. So that means that pedestrians don't have a space to wait *after* crossing the cycle space and *before* they have to deal with the road. (It also puts another block in the way of cycling convenience at traffic lights - say at a T-junction - because unlike NL the lights then apply to cyclists going straight on, whereas in NL that would be an informal cycle path crossing for pedestrians with no lights applying to the cycle path part - so cyclists just keep rolling).
In 2019, Shanghai and other Chinese major cities implemented strict regulations and clean-up operations tp remove millopns of abondoned dockless bicycles that had created public nuisances and blocked pavements. One can't blame local authorities for taking actions in order to stop a messy situation triggered by unruly users.
@Jakrayan Criticising people for not riding primary is like criticising a victim of domestic abuse for cringing when their partner threatens them with their fist. People don't ride in the gutter because they want to, they do it because if they don't they know there's a better than even chance that in any given ride at least one driver will be so affronted by the ENTITLED BIKE NONCE TAKIN' UP THE WHOLE ROAD!!!11 they'll do a deliberate punishment pass that could kill you or leave you maimed for life. Getting over in the gutter isn't a great solution, but multiple uncomfortable but not life-threatening passes is better than one potentially catastrophic one. It shouldn't be a cyclist's responsibility to put their life at risk just to remind drivers to obey the rules of the road they should be doing regardless. And as for "just getting off and walking", putting aside the reality that a ridden bike takes up *less* space than one with the rider walking alongside and so I'd argue the most considerate way to use that inadequate infrastructure(presumably there are no safe alternatives within a reasonable distance or why would anyone on a bike be using it at all) would be to proceed across on the bike at walking pace and then stop and put your foot down if someone needs to get by you; plenty of people use bikes as mobility aids and so "just get off" isn't as simple as it's made out to be. A couple of years back I had the worst sprain of my life, I could barely even hobble for two weeks and had a huge honking brace on my foot, had to sleep on the sofa downstairs because climbing them was a no go. I could still ride my bike though, do my shopping, see my mates - plenty of people have impairments that aren't temporary, to them "just get off" is tantamount to saying "just stay home". Let's keep it a benjamin as the kids say: "shared responsibility" and "keeping everyone safe" are, literally, copouts. They've framed the entire campaign so they can justify only taking actions that don't piss off drivers, and don't require them to actually do any work except harassing a few cyclists as they do a lunch run to the local Greggs, because that's the level of seriousness police in this country - in an institutional sense - believe road crime deserves.
"Scott says that it ‘redefines cable routing in the mountain bike industry’. While we’re yet to see if that claim rings true" I have a Spark RC Pro (2022) with mechanically controlled components. Because we use the front brake lever on the drive (right) side in the UK I have the rear brake hose and two cable housings (dropper and shock) on the NDS entering the headset. On my current bike I use 3.0mm Jagwire housing with no problems. I can install them by just pushing them through the headset without dismantling it. The new 2027 Spark has two openings either side of the headset so it is set up for a rear brake to be on the DS (right). Maybe they are dismissing countries that have the UK's brake lever configuration.
The first link is to one of their cycling computers.
To be fair when I'm out on the roads, car or bike, I see very many instances of people cycling who could be doing better. Ignoring the delivery riders, most of whom we know aren't actually riding bicycles / Ebikes, the most common issue I see is people riding too close to the edge of the road. Yes, drivers absolutely should do better, however this type of riding does little to discourage drivers from overtaking, and they will still pass too closely leaving the rider with FA room to the left either. So educating riders as to how to ride more safely isn't a bad idea IMHO. As for that narrow bridge, if it's popular with pedestrians I don't see how getting off and walking a few yards is a massive issue. And I'm normally in SPD-SL road cleats!
Indeed. Some lanes are so narrow, and with overgrown vegetation, that the driver may not be able to see anything behind in his wing (door) mirrors, and vans usually don't have a rear window so no rear-view mirror either. Much easier in this situation to just turn around and head back to the nearest farm gate, it won't be far. After all, 'share the road' works both ways. And before someone comments to say if you drive where you can't clearly see what's behind you, that driver may have no choice - deliveries, tradespeople etc.
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Be interesting to see if
Be interesting to see if cyclegaz finds that makes an impact, seeing as the overwhelming evidence from experience is that drivers dont see cyclists at all…except when it’s dark & they have no lights or jump red lights.
That’s an interesting idea
That’s an interesting idea Cyclegaz has there. I’ve seen him around town a few times.
The video of the Ferrari driver on Lambeth Bridge is worrying. My wife cycles across there regularly to get to work. The roundabout is notoriously dangerous and I’ve asked her to use a different route, but it’s the one she likes. That the Ferrari driver can’t even control the car in a straight line in a 20mph limit shows just how inadequate the person’s driving skills are.
I suspect – and hope I’m
I suspect – and hope I’m wrong – that the most notable impact will be even more drivers punishment passing him.
What’s needed is a similar
What’s needed is a police backed scheme similar to ‘Neighbourhood Watch’, maybe ‘Road Watch’ with a sticker/sign to put on bike/car that shows other road users that you’re keeping ’em peeled for wrong’uns behind the wheel (or handlebars – but mostly wheel).
I wouldn’t be surprised if
I wouldn’t be surprised if many drivers know that many police forces do nothing even if you have evidence, and will thus drive no differently.
Ferrari + Dickhead = trouble.
Ferrari + Dickhead = trouble.
I’m just glad he didn’t hit the pedestrian on the left or the cyclist on the right. I hope the car was seriously damaged and the police prosecute for exceeding the speed limit and dangerous driving.
eburtthebike wrote:
And I hope that I find a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. I know which I think is more likely…
My question is how did that
My question is how did that video get out?
Because someone stupid enough
Because someone stupid enough to crash a car for no apparent reason in a straight line is also stupid enough to post a video of it on social media. Why would you disable the traction control on a car like that in a city…
I just hope the airbag gave him a good smack in the mouth.
Ferrari driver obviously
Ferrari driver obviously deserves massive respect for skillfully avoiding both ped and the cyclist in an otherwise uncontrollable situation.
Mungecrundle wrote:
That was nothing but luck. He had zero control over where the car went. If he knew what he was doing he could have recovered it.
1 – Pretty sure Munge was
1 – Pretty sure Munge was being sarcastic
2 – If the driver knew what he was doing, he wouldn’t have been driving like a massive cockwomble in the first place.
For the avoidance of doubt, I
For the avoidance of doubt, I was engaging in the lowest form of wit.
If he knew what he was doing,
If he knew what he was doing, he wouldn’t have lost control in the first place.
It seems that it wasn’t that
It seems that it wasn’t that the Ferrari driver accelerated that much, it looks like he had the throttle down somewhat in a highish gear, asked the car to downshift but didn’t lift off at all. If electronic driver aids are off and you try such a mechanically unsympathetic action, driven wheels experience massive change in torque and will break traction.
It’s like starting a max effort on the bike and then shifting down on the front derailleur….
It’s the usual case of
It’s the usual case of imbecile with plenty of money and no skill or respect for the car. I used to work for a renowned supercar dealer and drove Ferraris, Bugattis, Porsches etc every day. These cars demand great respect. To put your foot down in them requires a great deal of skill and fast reactions. The 812 is a ferociously quick car, the driver put it into a sport mode which accentuates the exhaust note but switches off the traction control.
I belive police is going to
I belive police is going to “talk to the driver”. There will be some “some recommendations” and the driver probably will be fined. Up to 250 quid + taxes.
Court? I doubt this. Even so, it’ll be something like “a month of self-isolation”.
I see drivers who race like this every. single. day.
I am going to say it: I don’t
I am going to say it: I don’t care about Dr Freeman. Why are we still hearing about this? Report when there is a verdict and leave it at that.
And as for Rog’s kit, it’s fine; it is red and green that should never be seen.
Mother be quick – I’m gonna
Mother be quick – I’m gonna be sick
And lay me down to die
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“We don’t want to explicitly
“We don’t want to explicitly encourage people to come and cycle here but we should encourage good behaviour in those who do.”
Feck me, and people wonder why cycle infrastructure is in such a shit state in this country.
Dont’ forget that the Canal
Dont’ forget that the Canal and Rivers Trust, who run Britain’s waterways, and thus their towpaths, are perfectly happy to take millions of pounds each year in taxpayers money for the creation of cycle routes.
They like the money from cyclists, but they don’t want cyclists on the towpaths.
Here in West Yorkshire, Canal and Rivers Trust has taken about £10 million in taxpayers money in the last 6 years to ‘upgrade’ towpaths as part of funds to boost cycling. This has been spent on installing barriers narrower than the width of a set of handlebars, building speedbumps (which has resulted in several incidents of broken limbs from cyclists), and coating the towpath in loose flint chippings. The council are happy because they can say they are providing funding for cycling, without actually questioning whether it is fit for purpose.
Can cyclists and pedestrians
Can cyclists and pedestrians share a towpath? Well, most can. A few people of all locomotions suffer from arrested development and never learned to share at primary school.
But this makes zero sense:
Would they ban all people wearing parkas if the dick in question happened to be wearing a parka? Why punish people due to the infractions of another, based on how they travel (or what they wear)?