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2020 Garmin Edge 1030 Plus - home screen indoor (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Garmin admits cyber attack, systems “returning to operation”; Thug used car as weapon and ‘impersonated police officer’; Cyclist who made ‘best lockdown vid’ unveils latest creation; Bike gets ‘stolen back’ + more on the live blog

Welcome to Monday’s live blog. Jack Sexty is your blogger-in-chief today, with Simon MacMichael taking over later this evening.
  • by Jack Sexty
Mon, Jul 27, 2020 08:18
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SUMMARY

  • Weekend catch-up
  • "If you're looking for the grey bike - I stole it back"
  • Man claiming to be off-duty Kent Police officer reportedly threatened cyclists and "used car as defensive weapon", claiming they should not be riding two abreast
  • Ride Your Socks Off! with us on Zwift tonight, 7pm
  • Garmin: is yours showing signs of life??
  • 'Testing positive' doesn't just mean 'that' kind in cycling any more...
  • Government's new 'Tackling obesity' strategy: nothing on cycling yet
  • What will happen first? Take part in our poll.
  • 'Off-duty police officer' assault: Kent Police tell victim they believe man was impersonating a police officer
  • The 'I have a joke' meme goes cycling
  • A-pole-ing: pole and road furniture causes pile-up before sprint finish at GP Kranj
  • Cyclist who went viral with stop-motion vid unveils his latest mind-boggling creation
  • Peculiar local news article sparks helmet row
  • The all-new Tarmac SL7 will be revealed to the world at 5pm tomorrow
  • Rapha opens Canary Wharf pop-up Clubhouse
  • Garmin is back! GPS giants admit they were victims of a "cyber attack", and say services are "returning to operation"
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27 July 2020, 08:18

Weekend catch-up

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2020 Garmin Edge 1030 Plus - home screen road (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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2020 Garmin Edge 1030 Plus – home screen road (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Can’t bring yourself to read about cycling because of all this Garmin malarkey? Here’s what you’ve missed… 

Garmin issues FAQ as ransomware attack enters fourth day

Near Miss of the Day 447: Left-hook fail or Must Get In Front?

Garmin ransomware attackers said to be demanding $10 million

Bath golfers outraged that loss-making course could be turned into cycling centre

Four arrested after horrific Leicester hit and run

Drivers more patient with cyclists since lockdown according to survey

New website shows live data on travel times by bike and car in Oxford

27 July 2020, 08:18

"If you're looking for the grey bike - I stole it back"

Spotted by a friend of mine in Taichung. pic.twitter.com/1sgEoUs6Xp

— Chris Holmes (@greenlaker) July 26, 2020

Karma doesn’t come much sweeter than this.

27 July 2020, 08:18

Man claiming to be off-duty Kent Police officer reportedly threatened cyclists and "used car as defensive weapon", claiming they should not be riding two abreast

Today I’ve never felt so unsafe on a bike before, caused by an apparent off duty Kent Police officer. From my perspective. Woman and man in car with kids in the back shout at my partner and I as we cycle on a road two abreast (rule 66 Highway Code)

— Chris Hall (@chrishallrides) July 26, 2020

Ultra-endurance cyclist Chris Hall posted the disturbing account to his Twitter page yesterday. claiming that the man and a woman had children in the car and continually shouted abuse at Mr Hall and his partner for riding two abreast. The man claimed he was an off-duty police officer, and reportedly gave his name and badge number. Mr Hall continued in the Twitter thread: 

“Woman and man in car start shouting at us out the window to ride single file. Instantly feel threatened and let them go past and carry on. Car then stops in the road to continue shouting at us. Man threatens us using car as a weapon steering us towards the pavement…

“…Continually threatens us to stop claiming he is a police officer. Partner and I are feeling incredibly under threat as the car is being used as a weapon to force us single file and to make us stop at the side of the road. Car turns in on us and doesn’t indicate at a junction.

“Eventually we are forced to pull over. Man gets out the car and with an incredibly raised voice threatens to arrest me as I didn’t listen to him once he said he was a cop. I asked for him to show me his badge and he didn’t have it but said he would go home and get it.

“To which I said ok. He didn’t go home. His wife continually shouted at my partner stating we were reckless and dangerous stating she was also a police officer. Raising her voice at both of us. I continually reminded him of rule 66 of the Highway Code. He argued we were cycling…

“…In a dangerous manor and should be single file. Eventually after having the man and wife shout at us for about 20 minutes and after them using their car as a defensive weapon on us, they left: my partner in tears and me very shaken my the whole event.

“If this is how you train your officers, @kentpoliceroads I’d be happy to help in how this can be seen as intimidating to a person. I’d also like some clarification on what we did wrong.

“My partners a relatively new cyclist and has recently started trying to take it more seriously, having just purchased a new bike. Riding two abreast is a way to help with her confidence on London and Kent’s roads which quite frankly are unsafe for cycling.

“I have the car registration number, officer’s name and eventually he gave me his badge number. I’m now done with cycling in London and the South East. I think I’ll be moving out of London soon or maybe even to a country where cycling is part of their culture.

“I think I’ve covered everything. The officer probably has a different story to tell of the incident but simply a vehicle should never be used to intimidate someone as a weapon. We are both incredibly shaken by it all.”

Good morning Chris, would it be possible to give us a follow so we can send you a DM. Thank you.

— Kent Police (UK) (@kent_police) July 27, 2020

Sorry to read about this and hope you are both ok. If you want to email me a little bit more (including details you took and where it took place) I’ll see if there is anything we can do to assist: contactyourpcc@kent.police.uk

— Matthew Scott PCC (@matthewinkent) July 26, 2020

Both Kent Police and Kent’s Police and Crime Commissioner Matthew Scott have replied to Mr Hall, and road.cc has asked for more details. 

27 July 2020, 08:18

Ride Your Socks Off! with us on Zwift tonight, 7pm

If the weather where you are is anything like we’re getting right now then indoor training will certainly have some appeal… Anyway, once again we gather tonight for a sock giveaway on the Ride Your Socks Off! event. It’s a C category event this week, and the route is Out and Back, which includes the Volcano climb and also the reverse KOM. I expect we’ll do the sock giveaway at the top of the volcano and then maybe do a race for the final bit! Here’s the link: https://www.zwift.com/events/view/972943

 

27 July 2020, 08:18

Garmin: is yours showing signs of life??

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strava status page garmin - 27 july 2020 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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strava status page garmin – 27 july 2020 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

For the first time in over 4 days, Garmin Connect seems sorta back up. It’s a bit touch and go, but it’s waking up. Coffee is still brewing. Meanwhile, the Garmin Connect site Status page is down, but that’s fair – it needs a nap after the last 4 days.

— Ray Maker (@dcrainmakerblog) July 27, 2020

A road.cc staffer has seen his activity upload wirelessly to Garmin Connect and Strava overnight, and Strava’s latest status update says that some of the backlog is starting to trickle through… have Garmin beaten the ransomware attackers? Full story to follow with more details as we get them. 

27 July 2020, 08:18

'Testing positive' doesn't just mean 'that' kind in cycling any more...

This year the term “tested positive” has taken on a whole different meaning to years gone by

— Alex Dowsett (@alexdowsett) July 27, 2020

Says Alex Dowsett, who has never tested positive for anything illegal or COVID-19 thankfully. 

27 July 2020, 08:18

Government's new 'Tackling obesity' strategy: nothing on cycling yet

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Cyclist on scales (1) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cyclist on scales (1)
Cyclist on scales (1) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

On the gov.uk website, a document titled “Tackling obesity: empowering adults and children to live healthier lives” is now online… but it doesn’t really touch on exercise at all, focussing on the plans to revamp nutritional labelling, plus banning two-for-one offers on unhealthy foods and junk food advertising. It does say this regarding the new PHE Better Health campaign: 

“The campaign aims to reach millions of people who need to lose weight, encouraging them to make behaviour changes to eat better and move more to prevent or delay the onset of serious diseases. This will be supported by a 12-week weight loss plan app that people who are living with obesity can use to develop healthier eating habits, get more active and lose weight.”

Will further information follow, specifically regarding how people can get fit and lose weight using pedal power? We’ll wait and see…

27 July 2020, 08:18

What will happen first? Take part in our poll.

 

The world really does appear to be on pause at the moment…

27 July 2020, 08:18

'Off-duty police officer' assault: Kent Police tell victim they believe man was impersonating a police officer

Adding onto this thread. I’m talking with Kent Police today and they have confirmed they don’t believe that the officer number I was given is a Kent Police Officer so, it’s two people impersonating police officers, with the intention of harming someone using a vehicle.

— Chris Hall (@chrishallrides) July 27, 2020

Chris Hall, who took to Twitter to detail a 20-minute long ordeal in which he and his partner were threatened by a man claiming to be a Kent Police officer, has said the force told him they believe they are dealing with “two people impersonating police officers”. Mr Hall says the male driver and female passenger had children in the back of their car, and that Kent Police say they don’t recognise the officer number the man gave out. 

Mr Hall also told road.cc: “I’ll be honest it was horrible. We are both ok but definitely pretty shaken up by it all. I’ve cycled across the world and have cycled in London for over ten years, and this was the scariest incident I have ever dealt with.” 

27 July 2020, 08:18

The 'I have a joke' meme goes cycling

I have a joke about Guy Ritchie but it’s banned.

— ⚫ CyclingMikey aka Bike Gandalf 🇪🇺🇳🇱🇿🇼 (@MikeyCycling) July 26, 2020

I won’t tell you my wheel building joke yet as it takes a while to get the tension up.

— LukeB_MTB (@LukeB_MTB) July 25, 2020

i have a joke about women’s cycling but it won’t get the coverage it deserves

— robyn (@robynjournalist) July 26, 2020

I have a bike lane joke but it doesn’t go anywhere.

— Jessie Singer (@jessiesingernyc) July 25, 2020

I have a pro-line mountain bike joke, but once I start, it just goes downhill.

— Jodey Hinze (@jdarylhinze) July 25, 2020

The premise is that you have a joke, followed preferably by an ironic and topical reason why you can’t tell it. We’ve picked out some of the best for your perusal…

27 July 2020, 08:18

A-pole-ing: pole and road furniture causes pile-up before sprint finish at GP Kranj

VN Kranja je končana. Kar smo napovedali @val202 se je zgodilo. Zmagal je Olav Kooij, Jumbo Visma. pic.twitter.com/HW4NPB9vGQ

— Dare Rupar (@DareRupar) July 26, 2020

A number of riders who would have contested the sprint finish at this Slovenian road race were took out just metres from the line, caused by a large pole and numerous bits of road furniture that clearly weren’t visible to riders as they approached the final bend. Not the kind of pole position that is beneficial in any way, that’s for sure…

27 July 2020, 08:18

Cyclist who went viral with stop-motion vid unveils his latest mind-boggling creation

 
 
 
 
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Lonely Backside Wheel What is this thing??? It’s a triathlon themed zoetrope made with 1300 paper cutouts powered by a psychotic cyclist….. I shall name it… THE CYCOTROPE *lightning flash* muahahaha~ How??? As shown in intergrated making of, cut and paste jer~ the higher the shutter speed the better~ Thanks to LAZER, I’m wearing a bullet 2.0 with the Airslide system which can turn this seriously aerodynamic helmet to one with suffecient ventilation just with a simple slide~ Oh, it comes with an intergrated visor mount and LifeBEAM technology to measure your heart rate also. One revolutionary helmet! Thanks to @baggicase for the lovely matchy matchy socks 😊 I miss events la…. Miss the atmosphere and all my fellow triathletes… let’s stay safe and make sure the numbers go down down down so we can see each other at the start line sooner~ till then…RIDE ON!~ Music: Flat Beat by Mr. Oizo (I do not own the rights) looped his entire discography through the making of the video #useyourhead #lazersportsea #bikesciencemalaysia #lazerbullet2.0 #baggicase #zoetrope #anythingispossible #ironman #triahtlon #triathlete #challengefamily #teamtime #wayang #cyclinglife #cyclingclub

A post shared by Quek Shio Chuan (@quekshio) on Jul 26, 2020 at 10:52pm PDT

Powered by a Wahoo Kickr turning a wheel decked out with 1,300 mini swimmers, cyclists and runners, Quek Shio Chuan has revealed his latest triathlon-themed masterpiece, dubbed ‘The Cycotrope’. Treat yourself and put the full screen on to appreciate it in all its glory. 

Back in early May, Chuan went viral with a stop-motion video that was lauded as one of the best lockdown videos on the web, during a time when we all needed a pick-me-up. Here it is again if you need a reminder…

 
 
 
 
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Day 42 of isolation… Cut the heart out of my pillow as sacrifice… Rig the camera up with broom sticks… Took over a thousand selfies with my bae! EX DURIS GLORIA! #quarantine #homemade #stopmotion #cyclinglife #coronavirus @trekbikes @rapha @rapha_asia @abus_cycling @fse.bike @sramroad @globalcyclingnetwork @rapha_rcc

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27 July 2020, 08:18

Peculiar local news article sparks helmet row

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helmet row 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
helmet row 2.PNG
helmet row 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The article on the Island Echo website carries the headline (all in caps): “CYCLIST INJURED BUT SAVED BY HELMET IN WEST WIGHT CRASH”. 

Just 103 words follow, with the final paragraph stating: “The importance of wearing a helmet has been highlighted by this incident. The casualty has been saved from more significant injuries thanks to their helmet, which was being worn correctly and was fastened tight.”

We’re told nothing about the cyclist’s injuries, and there are no quotes from Isle of Wight Ambulance Service staff to corroborate the story. Comments on the article are rather mixed, with a Richard Burton saying “any conclusion that the helmet saved the cyclist from injury is mere speculation”; while punctuation-averse ‘Old bean’ claims that cyclists “Shouldn’t be on the road no tax no insurance biggest hazard on the roads today.” 

27 July 2020, 08:18

The all-new Tarmac SL7 will be revealed to the world at 5pm tomorrow

specialized tarmac sl7 augmented reality app preview - july 2020
specialized tarmac sl7 augmented reality app preview - july 2020 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
specialized tarmac sl7 augmented reality app preview - july 2020
specialized tarmac sl7 augmented reality app preview – july 2020 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

While new bike launches usually involve us attending a top secret presentation and telling you all about it later, this time around Specialized are inviting all of us to see the unveiling of their brand new Tarmac SL7 together online. At 5pm BST tomorrow (July 28th), you can tune in to watch the live premier launch on the Specialized YouTube channel here.  

“The future is here. One bike to rule them all”, so say Specialized… if you can’t wait that long, you can always download the Specialized Ride App on iOS or Android for an exclusive, augmented reality preview. Enjoy the virtual show tomorrow!

This post features paid promotion on behalf of Specialized.

27 July 2020, 08:18

Rapha opens Canary Wharf pop-up Clubhouse

rapha canary wharf pop-up - july 2020
rapha canary wharf pop-up - july 2020 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
rapha canary wharf pop-up - july 2020
rapha canary wharf pop-up – july 2020 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The pop-up will carry Rapha’s current men’s and women’s clothing ranges, and it will also serve as a base for self-guided rides planned by Rapha ride leaders that will “have you cycling around the city in ways you’d never expect, revealing lesser-known areas of the capital.” 

Weekly workshops will take place at 1.15pm every Tuesday on subjects such as nutrition, navigation, repair jobs and indoor training, and there will also be the ‘Island Challenge’, in which participants have to visit a series of checkpoints across London’s East End over one or two days. 

It’s open until 27th September – more info here. 

27 July 2020, 08:18

Garmin is back! GPS giants admit they were victims of a "cyber attack", and say services are "returning to operation"

In answer to our earlier poll, it appears Garmin getting fixed has happened first as the GPS giants have announced that most of their systems are “returning to operation”; something that we can vouch for, as our watches and computers have started to sync. 

Garmin Connect is coming back – slowly – as activities start syncing with Strava

Garmin have now admitted they were victims of a “cyber attack”. The full statement says: 

“Garmin Ltd. was the victim of a cyber attack that encrypted some of our systems on July 23, 2020. As a result, many of our online services were interrupted including website functions, customer support, customer facing applications, and company communications. We immediately began to assess the nature of the attack and started remediation.

“We have no indication that any customer data, including payment information from Garmin Pay, was accessed, lost or stolen. Additionally, the functionality of Garmin products was not affected, other than the ability to access online services. Affected systems are being restored and we expect to return to normal operation over the next few days.

“As our affected systems are restored, we expect some delays as the backlog of information is being processed. We are grateful for our customers’ patience and understanding during this incident and look forward to continuing to provide the exceptional customer service and support that has been our hallmark and tradition.

In an additional Q+A, Garmin insist no data has been lost, accessed or stolen, and their aviation systems are now full functional. 

27 July 2020, 08:18

Full story on the current state of play with Garmin, plus some details about the millionaire Russian criminal who is reportedly responsible for it all...

Garmin Connect is coming back – slowly – as activities start syncing with Strava

Garmin Connect is coming back – slowly – as activities start syncing with Strava

Meanwhile, reports suggest that suspected ransomware attack is work of multimillionaire Russian hacker

27 July 2020, 08:18

Pirelli go tubeless...

Pirelli expands P Zero road tyre range with two tubeless-ready options.

Pirelli expands P Zero road tyre range with two tubeless-ready options.

Both tyres feature 120tpi casings and Pirelli’s new SmartEVO compound.

27 July 2020, 08:18

New details emerge about the fatal incident in East London.

Police appeal to find bike of cyclist in London hit-and-run in which pedestrian died

Police appeal to find bike of cyclist in London hit-and-run in which pedestrian died

Met issue fresh appeal and say rider abandoned bike before running away from scene

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39 thoughts on “Garmin admits cyber attack, systems “returning to operation”; Thug used car as weapon and ‘impersonated police officer’; Cyclist who made ‘best lockdown vid’ unveils latest creation; Bike gets ‘stolen back’ + more on the live blog”

  1. brooksby
    July 27, 2020 at 8:46 am
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    Of course, the person who

    Of course, the person who just lost the grey bike might have unknowingly bought stolen goods…  If so, then – from their point of view – they’ve just had their bike stolen.

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    • alexls
      July 27, 2020 at 8:52 am
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      Although, in reality, they’ve

      Although, in reality, they’ve actually had their money stolen.

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    • OnYerBike
      July 27, 2020 at 8:54 am
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      True, but I think the law is

      True, but I think the law is fairly clear that no matter how honestly that person believe they bought it, the ownership does in fact remain with the original owner (unless the owner had received a payout from their insurance company, in which case any recovered goods belong to the insurers.)

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    • OldRidgeback
      July 27, 2020 at 9:12 am
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      The bike belongs to the

      The bike belongs to the original owner. Knowingly buying stolen goods is a criminal offence. Accidentally buying stolen goods is unlucky and you ahve no rights.

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      • Secret_squirrel
        July 27, 2020 at 12:33 pm
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        Depends how you bought it.  I

        Depends how you bought it.  I innocently bought a stolen bike from eBay, and due to it being pretty unique (a deKerf) I contacted the bike shop that was on the frame sticker for more background on it.
        Long story short, cops show up, the shop owner got his personal bike back and the seller got his PayPal decremented by my refund.  Police believed he was a dupe too, I’m not so sure. He had a fantastic collection in his sheds. He had some sort of N+1 thing going on with sheds.

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  2. brooksby
    July 27, 2020 at 8:50 am
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    And on the Chris Hall story –

    And on the Chris Hall story – if a police officer is off duty then aren’t they just folk, with no more powers, rights, or responsibilities than any other member of the population?

    In which case, wouldn’t providing your badge number etc just be likely to get you in more trouble than if you were just some random motorist?

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    • OnYerBike
      July 27, 2020 at 9:01 am
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      I’m not sure, but I think

      I’m not sure, but I think police officers generally have the same powers whether on or off duty, except for a few very specific powers which require the officer to be in uniform to carry out.

      See e.g. this FOI answer (search for “Question 4”) https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/police_policy_procedure_concerni

      or https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q676.htm

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    • hawkinspeter
      July 27, 2020 at 9:08 am
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      I’d imagine they have a

      I’d imagine they have a responsibility to not bring the police force into disrepute e.g. if they got caught shoplifting in their own time, then it’s unlikely to help their career. At least with their badge number, it should be easy for Kent Police to schedule some serious re-training with them (maybe move them to a position that doesn’t involve them interacting with the public).

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    • EddyBerckx
      July 27, 2020 at 9:40 am
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      There are police officers in
      There are police officers in my club and they all leave their card at home as they stand to get in far more trouble with it than without (as regards to complaints and so on)

      I found that weird when they told me as I’d personally flash my card at the every opportunity in the expectation the dickhead driver would back down immediately but apparently that’s not how it works in reality. One of them had to go to court after being attacked by a driver once…

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    • Mungecrundle
      July 27, 2020 at 10:08 am
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      As if Mr Ranty Arsehat and
      As if Mr Ranty Arsehat and his gobby Mrs are real Police Officers…

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      • Hirsute
        July 27, 2020 at 10:54 am
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        I’d say they are not until

        I’d say they are not until proven otherwise.

         

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      • Butty
        July 27, 2020 at 11:36 am
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        Impersonating a policeman?

        Impersonating a policeman? But why – what on earth was he going to get out of doing that?

        Another tool did this to our group when he overtook us with coming traffic. This resulted in a crash.

        The muppet then proceeded to say that he was off duty and the crash was due to us and we would be reported but wouldn’t show his warrant card. We were more than happy to give our names as witnesses to the owner of the damaged car.

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        • hawkinspeter
          July 27, 2020 at 11:46 am
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          Butty wrote:

          Impersonating a policeman? But why – what on earth was he going to get out of doing that?

          — Butty

          Hopefully some prison time.

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    • Tom_77
      July 27, 2020 at 10:39 am
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      brooksby wrote:

      And on the Chris Hall story – if a police officer is off duty then aren’t they just folk, with no more powers, rights, or responsibilities than any other member of the population?

      — brooksby

      There are some powers that can only be exercised when in uniform. E.g. Road Traffic Act 1988:

      163 Power of police to stop vehicles

      (1) A person driving a motor vehicle on a road must stop the vehicle on being required to do so by a constable in uniform.

      (2) A person riding a cycle on a road must stop the cycle on being required to do so by a constable in uniform.

      (3) If a person fails to comply with this section he is guilty of an offence.

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  3. LetsBePartOfTheSolution
    July 27, 2020 at 10:53 am
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    maliciously pointing an in

    maliciously pointing an in-motion car towards a person is in my view a criminal offence every time.

    It is not legal as a form of persuasion over to someone’s differing opinion. In the same way that a swinging a hammer at a person is not a legal way to attempt to impose a viewpoint upon them.

    They always then throw-in their diversionary points ( helmet, hi-vis , road tax, two abreast, not in cycle lane, no registration number, no insurance, or whatever they think will change the trajectory   ).   
    Don’t let this become diverted into any assessment about the cycling ( legally two abreast anyway ), but instead it should be focussed on a single question: did you ( motorist ) drive your car, and purposely, towards the cyclists ?

     

     

     

     

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  4. wtjs
    July 27, 2020 at 11:53 am
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    It is very difficult to

    It is very difficult to believe these are real police officers- I am no fan of the police but they’re not as dim as this! If it’s as reported, no real police officer would behave like this unless they were trying to be discharged with dishonour.

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  5. Hirsute
    July 27, 2020 at 12:52 pm
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    Regarding Chris Hall, does

    Regarding Chris Hall, does this mean it is now ‘no camera, no ride’ ?

    Am I spending too much time on roadcc and overestimating the dangers from drivers, left hooks, close passes, squirrels, geckos and a camera is really an optional extra ?

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    • Awavey
      July 27, 2020 at 2:23 pm
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      Well I certainly do not ride
      Well I certainly do not ride without one anymore, and havent done for a while, if as much just for my own peace of mind than anything else.

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    • ibr17xvii
      July 27, 2020 at 5:35 pm
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      hirsute wrote:

      Regarding Chris Hall, does this mean it is now ‘no camera, no ride’ ?

      Am I spending too much time on roadcc and overestimating the dangers from drivers, left hooks, close passes, squirrels, geckos and a camera is really an optional extra ?

      — hirsute

      Cameras are certainly good for piece of mind but unfortunately won’t cover everything.

      On my ride yesterday a classic SMIDSY pulled out on me at a roundabout & it was only cos I managed to swerve he didn’t hit me not cos he slammed on.

      When I got home I reviewed the footage & cos he came from the side it wasn’t captured. You just about see him approach but nothing more.
       

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      • Hirsute
        July 27, 2020 at 7:36 pm
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        Good point. Now I need 3 more
        Good point. Now I need 3 more cameras !

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  6. mdavidford
    July 27, 2020 at 1:36 pm
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    I have a joke about road.cc

    I have a joke about road.cc articles, but there’s a bit randssing from the middle.

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    • jollygoodvelo
      July 27, 2020 at 2:19 pm
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      I have a top 10 favourite

      I have a top 10 favourite jokes about road.cc articles, but I posted them here in 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019.

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      • mdavidford
        July 27, 2020 at 2:38 pm
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        I have a joke about Near Miss

        I have a joke about Near Miss of the Day, but it’s not worth submitting because it’ll just get ignored.

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    • Mungecrundle
      July 27, 2020 at 3:30 pm
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      I have a joke about Road.cc
      I have a joke about Road.cc articles that is worth repeating.

      I have a joke about Road.cc articles that is worth repeating.

      I have a joke about Road.cc articles that is worth repeating.

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      • mdavidford
        July 27, 2020 at 3:34 pm
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        I have a joke about jacket

        I have a joke about jacket reviews, but you won’t be able to read it because it’s not in neon yellow.

        [The old ones are – well – the old ones]

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        • hawkinspeter
          July 27, 2020 at 6:06 pm
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          mdavidford wrote:

          I have a joke about jacket reviews, but you won’t be able to read it because it’s not in neon yellow.

          [The old ones are – well – the old ones]

          — mdavidford

          The main difference between a cyclist and a scruffy unicyclist is attire.

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          • mdavidford
            July 27, 2020 at 7:08 pm
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            I have a joke about Zwift,

            I have a joke about Zwift, but if I tell it I’ll just get accused of being paid to advertise them.

          • Hirsute
            July 27, 2020 at 7:32 pm
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          • mdavidford
            July 27, 2020 at 7:47 pm
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            I have a joke about the

            I have a joke about the latest product containing graphene, but it’ll cost you £1,500 to read it.

          • mdavidford
            July 28, 2020 at 6:09 am
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            I have a joke about sentences

            I have a joke about sentences for driving offences, but… wait, no, they are the joke.

  7. brooksby
    July 27, 2020 at 1:43 pm
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    I don’t know what Kent are

    I don’t know what Kent are like for dealing with complaints about close passes, etc, but I trust they will be putting significant effort into finding this person who is not only being aggressive to other road users but also (and, I suspect, more importantly) pretending to be a police officer?

    “pretending to be a police officer” is a serious offence, IIRC.

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    • STiG911
      July 27, 2020 at 2:52 pm
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      brooksby wrote:

      I don’t know what Kent are like for dealing with complaints about close passes, etc, but I trust they will be putting significant effort into finding this person who is not only being aggressive to other road users but also (and, I suspect, more importantly) pretending to be a police officer?

      “pretending to be a police officer” is a serious offence, IIRC.

      — brooksby

      “pretending to be a police officer” is a serious offence, IIRC

      They’ll probabvly take that more seriously than the actual incident.

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    • Simon E
      July 28, 2020 at 9:46 am
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      brooksby wrote:

      “pretending to be a police officer” is a serious offence, IIRC.

      — brooksbyAnd if they genuinely are police officers they should both be sacked, taken to court and banned from driving.

      Chris Hall appears in Francis Cade’s videos from time to time and always seems a really nice fellow.

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  8. captain_slog
    July 27, 2020 at 2:26 pm
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    Quote:

    The premise is that you have a joke, followed preferably by an ironic and topical reason why you can’t tell it.

    I have an ‘I have a joke’ joke but I’d only have to mansplain it to you.

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  9. FrankH
    July 27, 2020 at 2:26 pm
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    Re: Obesity

    Re: Obesity

    Auntie thinks doctors are going to be prescribing cycling to combat obesity
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53541866
    We’ll see.

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    • wtjs
      July 27, 2020 at 2:42 pm
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      Auntie thinks doctors are

      Auntie thinks doctors are going to be prescribing cycling to combat obesity

      This is obviously a non-starter- the doctors annd the porkers themselves will not be taking it seriously. With the police attitude and the 20-50 cms ‘clearance’ in practice, as opposed to the supposedly ‘recommended’ 150 cms, the drivers are going to be hitting the wobbly obese-sters because they stick out further.

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      • bobrayner
        July 27, 2020 at 6:53 pm
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        It’s an impressive way of

        It’s an impressive way of shoehorning the-police-don’t-take-close-passing-seriously into a completely different topic, but the average non-cyclist who gets “prescribed” cycling is more likely to go down to the woods, or do a mile on the canal towpath, than a 25 mile TT on busy A-roads. 

        Still, suprising that you say obese people are being far wider than real cyclists! Rapha certainly don’t make many 3-metre-wide jerseys.

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        • FrankH
          July 27, 2020 at 11:24 pm
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          bobrayner wrote:

          … but the average non-cyclist who gets “prescribed” cycling is more likely to go down to the woods, or do a mile on the canal towpath, than a 25 mile TT on busy A-roads…

          — bobrayner

          I think the average fatty is more likely to think “sod that for a game of soldiers” and bugger off down the pub. 🙂

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  10. Sriracha
    July 27, 2020 at 5:18 pm
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    Quote:

    He argued we were cycling…
    …In a dangerous manor

    And I guess he thinks it’s his manor.

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Mr Blackbird 2 minutes ago

@Mr Blackbird The report on this case is on page 19 of today's Times. Maybe the more right wing rags didn't bother at all? It was on the BBC News website yesterday, but was not featured on this morning's Breakfast News.

in: Killer motorist who drove into cyclist and knowingly dragged him under his car for over a mile, leaving a trail of blood, found guilty of murder
chrisonabike 4 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris no no NO! Won't you think of blind pedestrians, who will be in danger of falling in, then being run over by the peloton, then drowning?! Not to mention people with limited mobility who might stumble in and then not be able to get out? Or just those walking around in a relaxed manner, not paying too much attention? No, what is needed is a dedicated area to support accessibility for all. We could call it a ... road! Those with sight impairment would doubtless be ok with that as they would be able to hear the motor vehicles (unlike those deadly silent cyclists). And they could get taxis also. In fact all those who *have to drive* could use it! Cyclists would have nothing to complain about, they could ride there if they don't get in the way of motor vehicles and come to a compete stop whenever they see a pedestrian looking like they might cross...

in: “Only a matter of time” until more cyclists crash into pedestrians on Oxford Street, planning chief warns as Mail decries “reckless peloton” of kids – but campaigners point to “urgent” need for safe bike routes
Rendel Harris 25 minutes ago

@HoarseMann I've probably given this too much thought, but alongside each of the bridges I was going to have little in and out ramps to allow cyclists to exit for the shops rather than be confined to a straight-through run.

in: “Only a matter of time” until more cyclists crash into pedestrians on Oxford Street, planning chief warns as Mail decries “reckless peloton” of kids – but campaigners point to “urgent” need for safe bike routes
Mr Blackbird 48 minutes ago

@kingleo Just picture a lovely character pub with all the original internal features. Baskets of flowers hanging outside. It serves an excellent selection of real ales, craft ales, quality lagers and quality ciders. Todays menu includes a ploughman's lunch, seafood platter and a vast range of sandwich fillings ; all made using locally sourced foods. But wait! A new cycle lane has just been constructed in front of the pub. It is far too dangerous to cross and enter the pub. You turn around and trudge home. Stopping at Tesco to buy a 4 pack of Carling.

in: Cycle lane nearing completion branded “a complete waste of money” by local MP; Factor return to the WorldTour; Former Team Picnic PostNL’s women’s rider speaks out + more on the live blog
chrisonabike 1 hour ago

@Hollis Jones as Rendel said, the key difference here is there were two strong pieces of evidence distinguishing this from "we all *know* they were aware of the cyclist", one of them a human witness. Outside that it's simply "but the prosecution cannot prove they didn't notice..." and legally that must fail. Like a "he said, she said" but where one of the sides is absent, because they're dead.

in: Killer motorist who drove into cyclist and knowingly dragged him under his car for over a mile, leaving a trail of blood, found guilty of murder
leedorney 1 hour ago

Having experienced this in Anglesey and most of it is unnecessary, it does give the driver a big lesson in 'looking extra', as travelling slower does that !

in: Serious cyclist injuries down 50% and overall road casualties continue to fall since 20mph limit introduced in Wales
leedorney 1 hour ago

It's true, you aren't feeling yourself any favours wearing black/dark colours, BUT you've got to look, soo many dont and the campaign should be for motorist - look, simple as, it's not hard and drop the speed to, maybe if the police where actually outside rather than on Facebook looking for the naughty words/viewpoints, drivers would be caught speeding, not looking, pulling out, not braking in time, going through red lights, overtaking at a bad time, cutting up cyclists and a lot more..

in: “How about asking drivers to pay attention?” Police force slammed for hi-vis campaign urging cyclists and pedestrians “to think about what they are wearing”
wtjs 1 hour ago

@Rome73 There are still too many motor vehicles in the central Oxford Street area. There should be zero, except for delivery vehicles at proscribed... prescribed times

in: “Only a matter of time” until more cyclists crash into pedestrians on Oxford Street, planning chief warns as Mail decries “reckless peloton” of kids – but campaigners point to “urgent” need for safe bike routes
Rendel Harris 1 hour ago

@Hollis Jones The crucial difference is the fact that Richardson stopped, exited the vehicle, tried to pull Mr Mullins free and when he couldn't got back in and drove on. He knowingly, actively and voluntarily engaged in the harmful behaviour that caused Mr Mullins' death, which is what made it murder. The hit and run driver hasn't deliberately hit a cyclist and although driving away is of course utterly reprehensible it's only covered by the laws regarding failing to stop at the scene of an accident, which only attracts a six month prison sentence maximum. It's high time the law was changed so that firstly the penalties for failing to stop and render assistance are far higher and secondly so that if the medical evidence is that the victim would have survived with prompt assistance then the driver can be charged with manslaughter or murder. However as it stands murder requires evidence of malice aforethought with an intention to kill or to cause GBH resulting in death. Richardson clearly displayed this by resuming driving even though he knew Mr Mullins was stuck under his car; the hit and run driver in an "accident" didn't have that intention so can't be charged with murder however atrocious their behaviour after the event.

in: Killer motorist who drove into cyclist and knowingly dragged him under his car for over a mile, leaving a trail of blood, found guilty of murder
matthewn5 1 hour ago

@robgru76 "I am gobsmacked by the number of cyclists I see" So you had no problem in seeing them, what's the issue?

in: “How about asking drivers to pay attention?” Police force slammed for hi-vis campaign urging cyclists and pedestrians “to think about what they are wearing”

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