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Arriva London also looking into footage captured on Ludgate Hill on Monday evening

Transport for London (TfL) and bus operator Arriva London are investigating footage posted to Twitter by a cyclist that showed a bus driver apparently using an online betting app on his smartphone while at the wheel of his bus on a busy street in the heart of the capital.

Captured on Ludgate Hill on the evening of Monday 5 September, the video shows the cyclist challenging the driver, who dismisses his concerns, over illegally using a handheld mobile phone while driving.

“Are you placing your bets while driving a bus?” he asks the driver.

“So you’re betting, and driving a bus with passengers? You’re out of your mind!”

When the driver protests that he’s doing nothing wrong, he’s challenged again: “You’re betting on football and driving your bus – are you out of your mind?”

With the bus driver continuing to insist that there’s nothing wrong with him using his phone at the wheel, the person recording replies: “Every time I cycle my life is in danger because of drivers like you.”

TfL said via its Bus Alerts Twitter feed that it would investigate.

Arriva London, the operator of the bus, is also looking into the incident.

TfL figures cited by Tom Kearney on his Safer Oxford Street blog in July show that in 2015/16, London buses were involved in more than 27,000 collisions, 580 of those involving pedestrians and 258 in which a cyclist was involved.

Mr Kearney himself was left in a coma after being hit by a bus on Oxford Street shortly before Christmas 2009, and is now a highly active road safety campaigner.

Born in Scotland, Simon moved to London aged seven and now lives in the Oxfordshire Cotswolds with his miniature schnauzer, Elodie. He fell in love with cycling one Saturday morning in 1994 while living in Italy when Milan-San Remo went past his front door. A daily cycle commuter in London back before riding to work started to boom, he's been news editor at road.cc since 2009. Handily for work, he speaks French and Italian. He doesn't get to ride his Colnago as often as he'd like, and freely admits he's much more adept at cooking than fettling with bikes.

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gb901 [157 posts] 1 year ago
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Good god - I cant believe that the bus driver was so adamant he was doing no wrong? How is a person so moronic in such, or any, employment? Mind you I expect he wont be for long and can also soon expect a tap on the shoulder from the boys in blue of the MET!

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burtthebike [1280 posts] 1 year ago
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Frankly, that driver is literally insane, should never be allowed to drive again, let alone a bus.  The bus company has to sack him immediately, followed by prosecution, and incarceration at her majesty's pleasure and a lifetime ban.

To be honest, driving and using a mobile may be illegal, but it is now so frequent that it has become unremarkable.  After the death caused by the eight times caught van driver, the law has to be changed with immediate loss of licence for a minimum of a year, with a second offence attracting a lifetime ban, with no appeals for hardship.

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pockstone [141 posts] 1 year ago
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gb901 wrote:

 a tap on the shoulder from the boys in blue of the MET!

Indeed. Forget TfL and Arriva. This is, first and foremost a matter for the rozzers.  Suspend him & then he can get sacked and lose his PSV license (permanently) after he's been prosecuted.

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Gourmet Shot [175 posts] 1 year ago
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wouldn't bother.....bored reporting 'First Bus' drivers...all that happens is a standard letter 2 months later saying we pride ourselves........serious matter..........investigate........blah blah blah. With hard evidence I would go straight to the Police

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Leviathan [2905 posts] 1 year ago
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Normally this sort of thing is fine until he kills someone:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-37283994

about par for this country, 7 strikes and you are out.

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CarlosFerreiro [121 posts] 1 year ago
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I wonder if the HSE might (maybe) be interested in this case? 

I know that they don't like to overlap with the Police, even where the legislation would allow, but if you were to emphasize the Police can handle the traffic offenses and that your HSE concern was with the corporate duties....... Company processes/monitoring/training/duty of care to passengers/lack of follow up once reported to them(if that's the case), maybe particularly with the recent case mentioned above and the high price lack of action there.

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A V Lowe [619 posts] 1 year ago
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Class D vocational licence - and Conduct of Bus Drivers ...(&c) Regulations 1990 (SI 2015)  Technically I guess section 4 which has (since 1936) made mobile phone use illegal for bus drivers (forward thinking legislation then!).  Standard RTA legislation also applies.

No need for Court appearance Traffic Commissioner can revoke Class D licence for poor repute/conduct.

Rather than shout, driver is obliged to give details to any person reasonably requiring them Conduct Regs Section 5, or a Police Officer.  Really a pity that the rule requiring a bus driver to display their PSV licence at all times lapsed in 1960's then you only need to photograph the licence badge.

Bus operator details in 1" block lettering on left side of bus (legal requirement)

If driver resigns it make life easy all round - no sacking on his work history, no risk of the company getting hit post-sacking for any unfair dismissal claims (paperwork greatly simplified - all happy!)  You may recall that the driver of the Glasgow Bin Lorry worked this way to cover his medical issues, as unlike a masters certificate, pilot's or train driver's licence which has a record of every flight or voyage you've made, a driving licence carries no such history.

 

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georgee [183 posts] 1 year ago
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Nothing will happen, nothing! Unless the guy crushed a pedestrian then maybe something but only maybe. Just look at that c*nt jailed today. Arriva will just have a laugh in the office, maybe cause their PR advisor to submit a few invoices and then they'll get back to doing nothing while TfL happily ignore the whole thing and push it back on Arriva. 

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dottigirl [811 posts] 1 year ago
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georgee wrote:

Nothing will happen, nothing! Unless the guy crushed a pedestrian then maybe something but only maybe. Just look at that c*nt jailed today. Arriva will just have a laugh in the office, maybe cause their PR advisor to submit a few invoices and then they'll get back to doing nothing while TfL happily ignore the whole thing and push it back on Arriva. 

Yep. This.

And I'm fucking fed up of it.  2

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vonhelmet [848 posts] 1 year ago
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They won't identify the driver. They'll say they don't know who was driving the bus. Obviously bollocks, but what can you do?

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CarlosFerreiro [121 posts] 1 year ago
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Try and get the HSE interested in their lack of safe working systems that don't allow them to identify the driver? 

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IanW1968 [349 posts] 1 year ago
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Given their drivers have deliberately tried to hit me on several occasions, I dont think increasing the chances of accidentally doing it will bother them much. 

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kil0ran [650 posts] 1 year ago
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Quite apart from the road safety issue, I'd get fired if I was caught betting on company time

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kitsunegari [343 posts] 1 year ago
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The only appropriate action Arriva can take is to sack the driver and report him to the Police. Whether it will happen or not is another matter.