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Police have released pictures of an ‘aggressive cyclist’ they say may have verbally abused and spat on motorists in Bath.

The man, who they would like to speak to in connection with two incidents in recent months, was said to have spat on a car that went into an advanced stopping lane near Sainsbury’s.

A couple and their 11-year-old grandson said the cyclist responded by shouting abuse, spitting on the car, making explicit gesticulations and even reached in through the driver’s window to pull his glasses off his face and throw them inside the car.

“Once he started his ranting, there was no stopping him,” she told the Bath Chronicle.

“And this continued from the junction with the Lower Bristol Road, into the local car lane leading out of Bath right up to the traffic lights at the junction with Brougham Hayes, when we turned into Brougham Hayes and the cyclist continued on the Lower Bristol Road out of the city.”

“There is no doubt that many other motorists would have witnessed what went on and were equally terrified by the bullying tactics of this offensive cyclist.

“On each occasion the drivers tried to speak to the cyclist, but he was not prepared to hear what was to be said and just continued with his vociferous ranting and intimidation.”

Around eight weeks ago another driver said he received verbal abuse from a similar looking man of around 40 years old, who followed him “ranting and raving” from the traffic lights at the Pinesway end of Midland Bridge.

An Avon and Somerset Police spokesman confirmed they were investigating.

He said: "Bath police are appealing for information about an alleged road rage incident involving a cyclist and a car on Tuesday, December 3.

"It happened at around 5.20pm at the traffic lights at Pines Way, on the Lower Bristol Road.

"There was a dispute between a cyclist and the driver of a car in which it is claimed the driver was assaulted and sworn at and had his car kicked."

Anyone who witnessed either of the incidents, who recognises the man in the picture, or the man himself, is asked to contact Bath police on 101, quoting reference number 121059/13.

The images of the cyclist can be viewed here.
 

After an unpromising start, having to be bribed by her parents to learn to ride without stabilisers, Sarah became rather keener on cycling in her university years, and was eventually persuaded to upgrade to proper road cycling by the prospect of a shiny red Italian bike, which she promptly destroyed by trapping a pair of knickers in the rear derailleur. Sarah writes about about cycling every weekend on road.cc.

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mintimperial [18 posts] 3 years ago
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“There is no doubt that many other motorists would have witnessed what went on and were equally terrified by the bullying tactics of this offensive cyclist.

“On each occasion the drivers tried to speak to the cyclist, but he was not prepared to hear what was to be said and just continued with his vociferous ranting and intimidation.”

I wonder what could possibly drive someone to act in this way towards our universally considerate, careful and law-abiding motorists. How very odd. Hmm. Utterly baffling.

HA.

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moonbucket [63 posts] 3 years ago
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He sounds like a right charmer!

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Elcustardo [9 posts] 3 years ago
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Can't really praise his methods
however

"The other incident came to light when the first victim mentioned it to his friends in the pub and one of them said the same thing had happened to them.

Read more: http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/Police-release-picture-aggressive-cyclist..."

So perhaps we see a pattern  3

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rich22222 [166 posts] 3 years ago
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They all look the same to me

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martib [80 posts] 3 years ago
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It's a shame the Police and driving public don't show so much interest when it is cyclists who have there lives put at risk and abuse given to them by motorists!
Not condoning the cyclists actions because lets be honest we don't have the full story (and not likely to through the article of some local sensationalising hack) when the Police sit on their arses and do bugger all about bad/anti social driving what do they expect cyclists are going to do.

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Legin [136 posts] 3 years ago
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So have they charged the motorist for their offence? Or are we having a Nigella moment by the police?

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martib [80 posts] 3 years ago
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Having looked at the picture of the cyclist what comes to mind is that it appears to be taken from the drivers side of the car, therefore did the driver indeed take the image and if so should be issued with a fixed penalty notice for using a phone while driving!  39

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koko56 [330 posts] 3 years ago
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cycling site, bias, whatever

End of the day while this case has more "to grab onto" vs a dangerous overtake or aggressive behavior by drivers, fact is that that's acceptable whereas don't you dare kick off at a motorist.

Spitting is a bit ott in everyday terms, even if the driver did something not quite right.

The flaw is that the system appears geared to protect the stronger ones (cars etc) vs what should be the case of supporting and siding with the more vulnerable party. But I guess "justice" through law is just abstract and there are cases with blatant lack of it throughout the law if you are willing to look.

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Sara_H [59 posts] 3 years ago
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Like others, I don't condone this cyclists behaviour, but as a female cyclist I'm subjected to vile abuse on a fairly frequent basis by drivers - not to mention being subject to dangerous driving every single time I venture out on to the road. I've given up reporting it to the police. I tried a couple of times but they couldn't have been less interested.

Anyhow, how do you end up with your cars wheels unintentionally in an ASZ? Had the driver been taken over by aliens for that part of the journey?

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kiwiglider [23 posts] 3 years ago
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Police do nothing. Sounds like he's fed up with motorists who are threatening his life on a daily basis.

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jonnywipeout [3 posts] 3 years ago
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I do not condone his offensive behaviour in any way, shape or form, however? , . . ,
I do understand when your frustrations towards a few insensitive and dangerous drivers, boils over? . ... I have witnessed no amount of dangerous driving styles, acts of deliberate intimidation, downright ignorance and general dangerous driving towards pedestrians, cyclists, and other car drivers!!
Where will all this hatred towards each other end? How many deaths before we all realise that none of us own the road, and it is a privilege and luxury to be able to use the roads here??

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Yennings [237 posts] 3 years ago
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Sadly there seem to be as many aggressive w@nkers on bikes as there are in cars. Not saying the motorist was faultless but no wonder there is such antipathy between different groups of road users of late. Just look at the kind of language used on Twitter by the likes of that @CyclingMikey twerp - lowering himself to the level of those he tries to attack. When we should be building consensus.

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road slapper [87 posts] 3 years ago
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I would just like to state for the record, It wasn't me...

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FluffyKittenofT... [1855 posts] 3 years ago
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If he managed to inspire "terror" in an entire queue of motorists he must be a force to be reckoned with. Either that or Bath motorists are cut from a more genteel and placid cloth than those in other cities.

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Cyclist [295 posts] 3 years ago
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Ok... His behaviour could be a result of an incident that the driver (s) will never say they were doing. Or he could be an over sensitive t##t? Who knows. But if you are in a near miss then the adrenaline rush that ensues almost immediately puts you in an attack or just stop mode, takes over, and doubles with euphoria when that "how the Fcuk did I survive that one" comment flows within your subconscious and then the lights turn red, and they are less than 100m away, mentally your inner grok takes over or your monkey brain as Dr Peters likes to call it. Up to 30 secs after the near miss psychologically you are not you and you respond with what is relief more than aggression, not condoning it, but people have got off murder charges for that very thing:-( and I admit I have chased many a car and lorry and had a genteel refined word in the Queens, I am sorry to report, not for chasing but how many near misses I have had. When will people understand that it is not acceptable to just think I missed them, phew lucky me and that makes it alright then... You can't drive cars etc snorting cocaine and texting etc thinking it's ok, when are they going to make killing a cyclist or pedestrian or another car driver/passenger murder? If you are texting etc you are committing a deliberate act that has resulted in the death of an innocent. Murder. Life. The police/government policy makers a bunch of public school boy I live in a different universe where the streets and roads are made of fluffy pillows, and when we fall over we get back up and the housemaster goes there there I will rub it better. But for us 21st century living plebs flesh bone brain and fast moving metal = death x1 as that's all we have and then they ask "why did you react like that?"
For me I just wish Q would make a JB bike, micro HE missiles exhaust seeking, oh I dribble with the thought.

Ditto to the above: aimed at the obvious rozzer surfers that will watch this post: it wasn't me either. Also up your game on mobile phone use when driving FFS. People are taking the p##s.

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bendertherobot [1472 posts] 3 years ago
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Sounds like a bit of a twat, possibly. It's hard to tell.

But, you know the real issue I have here? Unintentionally driving into an ASL.

WTF? Drive more carefully, think about your actions.

I have no doubt that many motorists unintentionally pass too close, pass when dangerous and do many other things which they really don't think about.

And that unintentionalism is one of the biggest dangers on our roads.

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GoingRoundInCycles [133 posts] 3 years ago
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Jeez! Spit on me, and use profanity around my children and that would be the last thing he ever did, the dirty pig! No excuse for that.

Hopefully they got enough DNA from the saliva to nail this aggressive asshole to the wall, sooner or later.  14

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tourdelound [169 posts] 3 years ago
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bendertherobot wrote:

Sounds like a bit of a twat, possibly. It's hard to tell.

But, you know the real issue I have here? Unintentionally driving into an ASL.

WTF? Drive more carefully, think about your actions.

I have no doubt that many motorists unintentionally pass too close, pass when dangerous and do many other things which they really don't think about.

And that unintentionalism is one of the biggest dangers on our roads.

I go along with that. but there's also a lot of motorists doing all of the above, and more, intentionally as well.

Not condoning the cyclists actions, but if plod did their bit and enforced the law, would the cyclist have any reason to take issue?

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yenrod [107 posts] 3 years ago
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Exactly, having near been killed 3x this month talking has been the last of my thoughts...

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Colin Peyresourde [1820 posts] 3 years ago
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I think I recognise him!

I think I've seen him cycle around London too. Bright yellow Gore jacket and Endura chamois?!! Definitely the same chap!

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Argos74 [451 posts] 3 years ago
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Only blew my top once. Mind you, I did get rear ended as I was waiting to get on to one of the Mancunian Way roundabouts.

I get at least one driver a week tailgating, shouting and beeping their horns when I'm taking the primary (primary position, legal. more importantly, safe) coming up to a junction or on narrow lane/pinch point. Am guessing we all get this on a reasonably regular basis, and it's very unlikely anything will ever get done about it. It's the price we pay for being just that awesome.

So I fail to see the problem when a cyclist gets annoyed - okay, this guy's gone way OTT - about the illegal and potentially dangerous actions of another road user.

To put it another way, If there's 20 people carrying chainsaws around, one of whom has it attached to a rope and swinging it around his head, why in the name of all that is good and holy are they going after the guy carrying a feather duster in an offensive manner?

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antonio [1168 posts] 3 years ago
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The poor man has obviously been 'driven' to distraction!

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Cauld Lubter [135 posts] 3 years ago
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Nutter is as nutter does.
I'm sure he'll meet another and they'll get on famously.

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Velo-Chris [17 posts] 3 years ago
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Yennings wrote:

Sadly there seem to be as many aggressive w@nkers on bikes as there are in cars.

Too true! The cycling vs driving debate is completely out of control imo. It's become a socially accepted replacement for racism for negative people that have to channel abuse at some part of society to make their own existence a little bit better.

Some cyclists are tools, some drivers are tools. Let's forget about those and get on with enjoying the ride/drive!

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mrmo [2096 posts] 3 years ago
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Might not be right, but I have blown up at a beemer driver before, tried to run me off the road, caught him at lights and had "a quiet word".....

Have also had a "quiet word" with a police officer who had a go at me, rather than do something about the bus that had tried to kill me, in front of him!!

Adrenaline makes you do non rational things.

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Stumps [3496 posts] 3 years ago
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If its true then the bloke is a prick and deserves everything thats coming.

But because he's a "cyclist" he's obviously been misunderstood and not really a wanker because after all its ALWAYS the drivers fault isn't it.............  39

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mrmo [2096 posts] 3 years ago
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stumps wrote:

If its true then the bloke is a prick and deserves everything thats coming.

But because he's a "cyclist" he's obviously been misunderstood and not really a wanker because after all its ALWAYS the drivers fault isn't it.............  39

We only have half a story though, are the motorists going to admit to almost killing the cyclist?

Unprovoked then he is a menace, but provoked, heat of the moment? someone just tried to kill you?

As for your comment about always the drivers fault, in my experience 7-8 times out of ten it is!

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Tripod16 [165 posts] 3 years ago
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Sounds like Mr White van Man has lost his drivers licence and has taken up riding a bike.

I wonder if the police are as concerned and go 'looking' for aggressive/intimidating drivers as they do this bike rider?
Completely rhetorical, I know the answer!  102

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vbvb [621 posts] 3 years ago
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 36 Good for him. Mind you, he sounds terrifying.  36
Good to hear the police are pursuing the drivers over the ASL infringements.  36

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Bikebikebike [346 posts] 3 years ago
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He spat! On a car! How terrifying. What do they do when a bird craps on their windscreen? Run for their shotguns?

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