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"Watch the moment a motorist narrowly avoids a concrete block thrown from a motorway bridge. Who do you think was in the wrong?"

 Although a barrister may well argue that the sign was badly placed and too small.

OK- let them employ Shyster Lawyers Inc. then. We don't need the police to do their job for them. I can't see me having been caught out like this cyclist, but I could be wrong. The person wielding the killing machine has to accept increased responsibilities and liabilities, as opposed to the cyclist Injured Party being blamed by the usual suspects

There is an argument that they might have been clearly signalling their intentions from the front of the car but the speed of the pulse shown on film could indicate a failed rear one. (althought that could also be the way newer LED lights show on frame rates). The brake lights would have come on(unless they are also faulty)  but then the cars in front were stopped so if the rear indicators were not working, then that could have just been down to the queue of traffic building up again. 

Yes, if the left turn was legal the Police might have been reluctant to proceed on Careless driving. Even then though I would expect the Police to still do the driver for driving without Insurance, Tax and MOT if nothing else. 

roadrunner23 wrote:

We have to accept that at this junction there is a lot for a driver to take in and do.

Well in that case stop until you've checked it's ok to do the manoeuvre. It's quite simple. Drivers have some odd performance anxiety: "what if I held every up for a minute?" This needs to be removed while they learn. Just WAIT AND OBSERVE. Eventually it'll be safe to do or you'll see why you can't do it.

I have pointed out elsewhere that as DVLA searches show that this particular vehicle has neither VED nor a current MOT, it wouldn't be farfetched to assume at least the possibility that his tailights could have been malfunctioning.

roadrunner23 wrote:

We have to accept that at this junction there is a lot for a driver to take in and do. 

First, the driver needs to accept this. It is really simple; slow down to a speed suitable to safely execute the manoeuvre. This includes all required checks and thought processes. Stop if necessary. Shoulder check. Proceed with caution. If there is too much going on to process, slow down further.

It is not for the vulnerable to mitigate the crap driving of some road users. The thought seems to be that the vulnerable need to account for the errors (at best...) of the dangerous whilst being absolutely 100% perfect in this respect. The blame then shifts to the failure of mitigation of the victim, rather than where it actually lies - the negligence of the vehicle driver.

Well, it's possible that the road is literally impassable - like they're digging a massive hole from hedge to hedge or something.

They mentioned a failed culvert in one of the papers stories so that would be all across the road. And as it is the moors, I wouldn't fancy trying to get around it. 

I checked it up and they have been trying to improve all of that route due to large amounts of accidents all along it for the past couple of years. Each time they do a section they close it in this way due to the work, and everytime there is people moaning it doesn't need to be made safe and leave it open. 

AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

They mentioned a failed culvert in one of the papers stories so that would be all across the road. And as it is the moors, I wouldn't fancy trying to get around it. 

"Don't step off the path!"

Is there a pub near here? 
 

says road widening,resurfacing and installation of new kerbs on the roadworks website https://one.network/?118039954

One of the newspaper reports stated it was taking longer then expected because of the culvert was found to be collapsed. However if you see that road and the work you have listed, I can see why the sign pretty much states the whole road is closed for any type of travel and not just for cars. I expect there is very little room to clamber by on the public sides. 

Cupov wrote:

And road closed to pedestrians...how's that work?

I would have thought that was pretty clear, people do walk down roads and verge's.

Many times on roadworks you can cycle past or walk on a pavement or verge so cyclists and sometimes hikers are always tempted to give it a try, I have worked on such sections myself and the client was getting totally frustrated at turning them back, which meant a long ride back, so everyone was getting pissed off. I suggested adding  Cyclists and pedestrians and unsurprisingly the problem stopped.

His 29th ride is not on Strava (he did a ride up there on the 23rd though so the original pic might have been from that). As the memorial tweet is dated the next day he was probably driven up there I suspect. However he didn't need to do anything so chapeau doing it for the mother however he got there.  

I knew and raced with Rick - he was an absolute fixture of the NW racing scene and a legend of a lad. Chapeau to Froome for doing this, it's a lovely gesture. I'm sure Jackie, Rick's mum, is dead chuffed

She did reply and thank him

https://twitter.com/JackieTaylor32/status/1311247269065363456

Awavey wrote:

The fault lies with the range rover both for an illegal left turn and for not checking the cycle lane was clear...

No.  The fault lies with the driver.  Didn't you get the memo about media reporting of crashes?

I dont consider myself to be the media

They didn't ride up the inside - they travelled on a separate lane (solid white line), and the vehicle on the outside lane stuck their brakes on and slowed down, and swung across without looking. 

well actually the whole infra there is a bit of a mix of everything, its a bollard protected lane, then it completely disappears, then its a solid white line painted lane again but only for a car length, as its a dotted line at the junction again as thats how vehicles are allowed to cross the cycle lane, its classic case of multiple schemes over time been setup but no overall plan to guide cyclists or even drivers properly or safely from one bit to the next, even the no left turn seems a bit tacked on.

Im looking at that situation and thinking I dont care its a separate lane, I dont care drivers are supposed to look before turning across it, I dont even care there is this sign that says drivers cant turn left there, none of that matters as you cannot rely on any of that protecting you,the only thing I care about is not becoming another injury statistic.

so there is no way Id be riding into that position that left me vulnerable to a vehicle, especially one the size of a Range Rover,potentially left hooking me,  and in city traffic you have to be hyper aware of all the small things that can go wrong,no indication from the car,driver doesnt look, turns left on a no left turn, to pick your way through safely enough.

as I said theres no fault on the cyclist at all the blame is all on the driver, but I wouldnt have passed the Range Rover till I was sure what route they were taking, if they are locked in straight ahead, fine, pass by the junction, but if you dont know, dont ride with them next to you as you approach a junction, even one they technically cant turn into.

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well actually the whole infra there is a bit of a mix of everything, its a bollard protected lane, then it completely disappears, then its a solid white line painted lane again but only for a car length, as its a dotted line at the junction again as thats how vehicles are allowed to cross the cycle lane, its classic case of multiple schemes over time been setup but no overall plan to guide cyclists or even drivers properly or safely from one bit to the next, even the no left turn seems a bit tacked on.

At the risk of opening another can of worms which does not absolve the driver at all, I suspect all the wands, lines and extra markings, plus the no left turn are part of an LTN or active travel improvements along that route. As of May last year, the lane was literally the smear of blue in places without mandated or advisory border markings and no sign of the no left turn erm, sign.  

It looks to me they probably clouted the bollards first,and then reacted by over correcting to steer right, and caught the kerb of the central refuge the wheel was then at an angle it took a sideways hit which broke the bottom suspension mount. I've had cars touch central refuges like that square on, whilst overtaking me on my bike and it hasnt ripped a wheel off like that yet.