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She walked back to check her door, saw nothing was wrong, and came back and started screaming about how I’m a f***ing moron”: London cyclists share their “terrifying” road rage experiences + more on the live blog
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London road rage
There’s a bias to trawling the London Cycling reddit thread, much like there is in news reporting. No one reports on the hundreds and thousands of journeys that are uneventful, safe and maybe even enjoyable.
But it being the summer, these are peak months of the year for people to be travelling around on two wheels, which unfortunately means there’s more scope for cyclists to be victims of the sort of road rage that no one deserves to be on the receiving end of… like this woman.
“Yesterday after work I was cycling home and was about to go onto Wandsworth Bridge. The bridge is under construction right now and is down to two narrow lanes.
“Traffic was stopped, I was merging from the cycle lane into normal traffic by carefully/slowly weaving through some cars so I could integrate. I was going barely above walking speed, and while trying to squeeze through the last bit that would let me onto the bridge, the side of my foot grazed against a car. I did not hit it or kick it, my bike did not make any contact, my shoe grazed the passenger side door.
Immediately I said “sorry! was my shoe!” and this woman SLAMMED on the horn. I stopped and repeated myself again. She was still laying on the horn until traffic started moving again, and she floored it and sped past me.
I didn’t want to escalate anything so I cycled behind her car and made sure to give a very ample amount of space, like about 10 meters. Traffic stopped again and she got out of her car, came up to me screaming in my face about how I hit her car.
“She walked back to check her door, saw nothing was wrong, and came back to me and started screaming about how I’m a fucking moron and shouldn’t squeeze through tight spots. I had a really awful day at work and just broke down crying saying I’m sorry I’m sorry I promise it was just my shoe. She said oh don’t fucking start crying you bitch (I’m a woman in my mid 20s). I kind of dissociated for a lot of it and don’t remember all of what she screamed at me but she got back in her car and sped away.
“I was crying and hyperventilating because I was terrified, but the guy in the car behind me said he recorded the entire thing on his phone if I wanted it. I said no but thank you, I just want to go home.
“I just wasn’t expecting someone to be so aggressive for such a non-issue. I’m here on a work visa and I’m terrified of someone being on my record to send me back home and I just spiralled. In the future, which hopefully never happens, what do you do when a driver gets out of their car to approach you?
“Next week I’ll start taking a different route home to avoid this bridge and hopefully won’t happen again.”
A horrible situation all round. Unfortunately car weaving can be perilous even when it’s ostensibly not dangerous. The comments aren’t short of sympathy…
“That sounds awful, I’m so sorry that happened. I’ve had people yell and abuse me for just existing on my bike (I’m a woman in my 40s). It leaves me all shakey! I’m glad other people were there for you. I’ve just bought a small camera to attach to me for when I ride cos I’m fed up of this shit.”
“This is so horrible, I’m so sorry it happened to you. Absolute idiots exist. Glad that you’re okay and absolutely next time cycle off and ignore the dumbass. You didn’t damage her car, so no reason for you to hang around!
“I’m purely terrified of weaving so I avoid it and ‘think like a car’ when I’m cycling in London. I drive more than cycle, so i know sometimes drivers don’t check blind spots and all that stuff that they SHOULD do and sometimes get spooked by cyclists. Purely for safety reasons, I’d sit behind tight traffic rather than weave.
“Ignore it, hope you’ve recovered, take yourself off and get a cake and give it no more thought 🤘”
“This really sucks, and they sound totally out of order. If a driver angrily gets out of their car and is approaching you and you feel threatened; this is already grounds for common assault so feel free to pretty much do anything that gets you out the situation and into safety.
“You’re not at risk of being done for fleeing the scene of an accident if you fear for your safety.”
It’d be interesting to hear the thoughts of the esteemed panel on this. Is there any hope of undertaking or weaving through vehicles when drivers are capable of acting so irrationally? I thought we were moving past the mindset of ‘vehicular cycling’ but it appears not…
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The more I see this, the less I like it. I wouldn't describe it as riding by a "careful & competent" rider. BUT; the rider was passing a parked, locked (mirrors were folded) car, slowly, on a good road suface, on their side of the road. The oncoming car was travelling slowly and could use their entire lane. A bit of a squeeze, but the police have been quoted (elsewhere) as saying, "a close pass doesn't occur if the vechicles remain in their own lane". So no close pass occured (they are going in the wrong directoion, anyway), filtering is allowed, the only danger was to the cyclist themselves and they had obviously assessed & accepted that risk.
We left the EU, but still retained a huge body of its regulation as it applied at that time. Yes, we can diverge from it. But I don't think that 'freedom' or 'innovation' is best expressed by e.g. allowing demonstrable fire hazards.
@AidanR It’s not great cycling, but I have the same from drivers practically every day on my commute. I don’t imagine for a moment that, if I reported it, anything would be done How right you are!
Just a quick note to let road.cc know we left the EU several years ago and aren't bound by their rules and regulations any more. There is no UK or EU version of AliExpress and one of the many reasons for this is that the EU systematically stifles innovation by hamstringing companies with red tape. It's up to the UK to break free and innovate again, as we've done in the past. My concern is that we've become a risk-averse, rule-taking society that's afraid to embrace the freedom we now have.
@GravelIsNothingNew I'm assuming that they must have gone from one to the next, arriving at 2am for Jonas, I'm guessing they probably didn't conduct the test for at least 30+ minutes while they put everything in place to make sure the sample is secure etc, plus the time at the end logging and securing it. then Travel from the Hotel Jumbo are staying in to UAE's hotel (presuming they're not in the same one) locating Tadej's room, setting up etc again. If they wanted to do it properly they should probably have multiple testing teams arriving at the same times, and test the top 5 or so on GC
Are the UCI going to release the evidence that they had prompting the "serious and specific" suspicions? By getting court approval to test at the times they did, they must believe that it's highly likely both of the riders are doing something illegal, it would be interesting to know where that comes from, rather than the "they're by far the two best riders at the tour, they must be doing something suspicious"
It's not entirely clear, but I don't think they're referring to how close they were to the parked car; it's more how close they were to the oncoming vehicle, which appeared (albeit very slightly) to slow and move towards the side of the road in order to pass safely.
I downloaded the app onto my iPhone 12 a week or so ago and have had no success getting it to show me my power. It happily gives me all the info I can already get on my Garmin Edge 830 already. I just wanted to see if I could get a power reading without the expense of buying a power meter. I also don't seem to have any success linking the app to my Garmin. There is an option to send a message to support via a Contact Us link but so far 3 messages on three different days have elicited no response. Another issue, which could be due to brightness settings on my phone perhaps, is that in bright sunlight I can't read any of the info on the dark screen. Would love to discuss this with the designers but they haven't chosen to answer my messages.
Um, they literally did claim that there was a need to prove it *if it was in the statement*: In any case, they don't need to prove that it was less than 1 m (or 1.5 m, or any other specific distance), since that's not an offence; they need to prove that it was driving below the standard of a careful and competent driver. As I said, *in practice* it often seems that a higher standard of 'beyond all doubt' seems to be being demanded, but that just backs up HM's original point: that's not *supposed* to be the standard, so where it's happening, something should be done to correct it.
My dad had an experience of operation snap driving up the hill in great Malvern, he patiently waited behind two weaving bikes going up the hill, single file but all over the place, when he cleared the part where there were parked cars on the left hand side he deemed it safe to overtake and the rear cyclist decided he wanted to ride two abreast forcing my dad virtually off the road. The cyclist and his wife shouting at him when he was overtaking, repeating his reg plate. Sure enough West Mercia police sent a letter of intended prosecution as the footage from his go pro showed him passing close. I intervened and asked for the footage they had to be Forensically investigated for digital manipulation and told them my dad had the dash cam footage of the incident. I told them I wouldn't provide the dash cam footage as I was relying on that for a civil claim against the malicious allegations by the cyclists. Needless to say they didn't give me details of the cyclist or pursued the £60 fine. Didn't have any reply at all.... It was an ex copper that told me to ask about having the footage investigated, the cops won't spend ££ on something minor like this as forensic investigation is expensive
