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Pee-gate redux
Pee-gate redux (Image Credit: @campenaertsvictor/Instagram / Eurosport)

“The accusation I’m the inventor might be right, but it won’t happen again”: Campenaerts confesses over ‘pee-gate’; Segaert wins Giro stage with late flyer; Tour de France cauliflower driver wanted + more on the live blog

Callum is here, and starting to get a bit tired of Jhonatan Narváez and UAE winning stages at the Giro. Here’s hoping for a last-minute script change…
  • by Callum Devereux
Thu, May 21, 2026 09:16
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SUMMARY

  • Pee-gate redux and a Campenaerts confession!
  • SRAM hits out at “deeply flawed” gear ratio trial and calls for “reform now”
  • Sometimes the internet is nice...
  • Giro: Segaert wins!
  • Giro: Ciccone launches, Turner drops, Segaert launches!
  • Giro: Final 10km
  • Giro: Sprint favourites throw in towel, Eulalio takes bonus seconds
  • Giro: Vernon is there!
  • Wiebes unstoppable in Burgos
  • Giro: Motoring along
  • Giro: Milan dropped!
  • Giro: Here they go again...
  • Giro: break caught, Milan and Magnier dropped!
  • Giro: Movistar rip it up...
  • Drivers slam “special treatment” for cyclists
  • Giro: New break stabilised
  • Giro: Attacks!
  • Giro: 5-rider breakaway escapes
  • Roglič to retire?
  • Cycle infrastructure so tragic it's almost funny
  • SRAM wins landmark appeal over controversial gearing trial as court rules UCI failed to show how new rules would improve safety
  • Cauliflower driver wanted!
  • Daily dose of motonormativity...
  • Giro preview: surely a sprint?
  • Fuel duty freeze criticised by Cycling UK for “kicking the problem down the road”, as research shows soaring prices encourage more drivers to cycle
Pee-gate redux
Pee-gate redux (Image Credit: @campenaertsvictor/Instagram / Eurosport)
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21 May 2026, 10:28

Pee-gate redux and a Campenaerts confession!

Fans of Monday’s live blog might remember Ryan’s deep dive on human waste in the peloton. And I’m not talking about [insert rider you dislike here], but the Giro d’Italia organisers instructing riders not to discard bottles they have urinated into on the side of the road…

> Giro d’Italia organisers warn riders to stop taking the piss… by peeing in bottles and throwing them away

Well, I’m delighted to announce that the story has progressed! XDS-Astana’s Arjen Livyns was first to come forward, outing his former Lotto teammate Victor Campenaerts as a bottle wee-er (that’s the technical term).


Then Decathlon CMA-CGM’s Oliver Naesen came forward. You know it’s a good quote when it begins “I’m not naming names but…”

Pee-gate in #GirodItalia continues:

– Naesen: “I won’t name names, but V.C. is the expert in that field. Although I think Peter Sagan used to do it as well”

– Campenaerts: “Pee bidons in the race? I have no idea what you’re talking about”https://t.co/lcXZ1soNf2 https://t.co/K5r7hIqffp

— La Flamme Rouge (@laflammerouge16) May 21, 2026

Ignoring the Peter Sagan allegations for a moment (that I’m afraid we can totally believe), it seemed very on brand for Victor Campenaerts to offer a complete denial of not only bottle-weeing himself, but to the entire concept, despite facing multiple character references from teammates past and present.

But then, for want of a better phrase, Victor Campenaerts came clean, in a vlog posted during today’s Giro stage:

 

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A post shared by Victor Campenaerts (@campenaertsvictor)

We initially enjoy the fun faces of Jonas Vingegaard and Sepp Kuss saying they’ve never done such a thing, but that they know a rider who has done such a thing on a queen stage of the Tour de France. Then, comes the confession:

“By very popular demand, I’ll give an explanation about the pee bottle,” the Belgian begins.

“So we ride the bikes through the whole country. And I think by law in most countries it is forbidden to urinate in public, and there’s a lot of crowds on the side of the road.”

“So my solution was: I will pee in the bottle to not pee in someone’s front yard, or not pee on people that are next to the road. Then I give the bottles to the car.

“Unfortunately we don’t have a pee zone or toilets on the side of the road like in triathlon so we are forced in long events (5,6,7 hours) to find some place to pee. Sometimes it’s challenging. But it’s now ‘forbidden’ by the UCI so you will never see me doing that again.

“The accusation that I’m the inventor might be right, but it’s forbidden now so, it won’t happen again.”

Finally a resolution! You can always (sometimes) trust the gossip of the peloton. Maybe more races should follow the lead of the World Championships in Rwanda and install portaloos on the course.

#Kigali2025 – Toilet time for Masnada and Evenepoel on this lap pic.twitter.com/Lab1R0f3Qv

— La Flamme Rouge (@laflammerouge16) September 28, 2025


Probably don’t need a camera on them though…

21 May 2026, 16:49

SRAM hits out at “deeply flawed” gear ratio trial and calls for “reform now”

Ryan’s been on top of this story all day, and managed to write about Oxfordshire country lanes. He’s pretty good…

“The UCI framed its gear restriction as a safety measure – the science showed it wasn’t”: SRAM hits out at “deeply flawed” gear ratio trial and calls for “reform now”

Yoeleo Altera G21 Gravel Bike - Sram Force XPLR cassette
Sram Force XPLR cassette (Image Credit: Liam Cahill)
21 May 2026, 08:58

Sometimes the internet is nice...

For all the ills of the world, people (by and large) are good. It’s rather lovely then to bring a nice bit of the internet to the live blog today.

On todays episode of ‘it shouldn’t look like that’
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Today’s bit of good internet comes from the r/BikeMechanics thread, where reddit user mihellino takes up the story:

“Thought i’d share for a chuckle what happens when things get run till max. Bike that was brought into the workshop today. Lady (bless her heart) said the front derailleur is “making weird noise”… Needless to say the whole drivetrain was toast.

“She barely had the money for a new chain. Still found some okay used jockey wheels and a casette somewhere and replaced them free of charge. The crank chainrings too.
Hopefully bought me some good karma by doing so. She was thrilled, so that alone made it worth[while].”

I’m inclined to agree, and always happy to issue a public service announcement about the importance of changing gear when the going gets tough, if you want to climb any mountain!

Billy Ocean references aside, the comments are all pretty chipper as well, here are some highlights:

“It always comes back, good play my good man!!”

“This is an amazing post! Made my day!”

“You are a good person and did just what I’d have done. Bravo.”

“Thanks for helping her out. If she rode it enough to wear it completely out, odds are that she really needs that bike for her everyday living.”

“I love jobs like that, where you can brighten someone’s day. I’ve always been more of a ‘recycler’ mechanic (pardon the pune) than a parts fitter. Probably why my shed is full of secondhand but useable parts for all sorts of two wheeled contraptions.”

My personal favourite though is from aj_lo, who kept their remarks short but sweet…

“That drivetrain is longing for a bristle brush…”

21 May 2026, 16:10

Giro: Segaert wins!

Wow, what a ride by Alec Segaert! The Belgian has had a great spring and has capped it off with his first Grand Tour stage win.

Fabio van den Bossche and Lorenzo Milesi both launched their own flyers but were caught by the peloton. Segaert even had the gap to turn and start celebrating with 100m to go! What a race this has been for Bahrain-Victorious, an unexpected race leader and now a stage win!

Toon Aerts was an unexpected second for Lotto, ahead of stage 2 winner Thomas Silva.

21 May 2026, 16:04

Giro: Ciccone launches, Turner drops, Segaert launches!

Hello?! Giulio Ciccone has launched an attack wit 7km remaining, and Igor Arrieta, winner of the rain-soaked stage 6 has joined him. The EF duo of Markel Beloki and Michael Valgren worked well though to bring them back. But things are volatile here. The peloton pass 5km, the safety point where all riders will subsequently get the same time if there’s a crash. Meanwhile Ben Turner has dropped away, too many matches used chasing back on I fear…

Alec Segaert is next to launch a flyer and has a gap! 3km to go…

21 May 2026, 15:58

Giro: Final 10km

Right, the riders are motoring towards the finish so let’s quickly recap the fast men still in the front group.

Ethan Vernon is there, and will be led out by Corbin Strong. Finally Ben Turner has latched on to the back of the front group. teammate Embret Svestad-Bårdseng will now be tasked with moving him up through the peloton.

Orluis Aular, for whom Movistar did all the hard work on the day’s earlier climbs is there, as is Madis Mihkels, for whom EF worked on the descent.

One final mention to yesterday’s stage winner Jhonatan Narváez. He may be tired, but if he finishes in the top-3 of today’s stage he will overtake Magnier in the points jersey standings.

21 May 2026, 15:51

Giro: Sprint favourites throw in towel, Eulalio takes bonus seconds

Milan and Magnier have just been seen deep in conversation. Team Picnic PostNL Raisin are still working but the gap has ballooned back out over 1’30”. The game is up.

Meanwhile, Ben Turner is in one hell of a fight to get back in the group after his puncture. He’s got Jack Haig for company and is still making his way through the cars with 14km to go.

Meanwhile the peloton pass the Red Bull KM, and race leader Afonso Eulalio pops out to take 6 bonus seconds, Ben O’Connor taking 4 behind him. That establishes a 33-second advantage for the Portuguese rider in GC.

21 May 2026, 15:40

Giro: Vernon is there!

The young British sprinter is in the main peloton, and so is Ben Turner (must’ve misidentified him earlier). Without so many key sprinters, this is tough to predict.

The advantage over Milan and Magnier has dropped slightly to under 1’10” but the energy in the chase has ebbed. Is this the best chance we have for a British stage winner in this race? Saying that Turner has just punctured but the Netcompany-Ineos team car is right there so he should be able to rejoin the front.

22km remaining…

21 May 2026, 15:30

Wiebes unstoppable in Burgos

There is other racing happening on the continent this afternoon, with the women’s Vuelta a Burgos starting today. No one though was even within touching distance of Lorena Wiebes…

 

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21 May 2026, 15:21

Giro: Motoring along

It’s not looking good for Milan and Magnier, the gap is up to 1’25” and EF have started riding on the descent. They’ll be working for the Estonian sprinter Madis Mihkels who’s lurking at the back of the peloton. NSN are also working, I’m not sure if Ethan Vernon has re-joined or if it’s all for their versatile Kiwi Corbin Strong – stage winner at Glenshee Ski Centre in the Tour of Britain a few years ago. The more you know…

40km to go.

 

21 May 2026, 15:08

Giro: Milan dropped!

Oof, he tried but Jonathan Milan dropped away 1km from the summit. Over the top, he’s 45 seconds from the front of the race, with Magnier a further 20 seconds behind. The Frenchman now has Casper Van Uden for company though, and the Picnic-PostNL Raisin domestiques. Ben Turner’s there as well

I’d expect those sprinters to regroup and cooperate to rejoin the peloton, but who will drive on the pace now in the peloton?

21 May 2026, 14:57

Giro: Here they go again...

Onto the second climb, and still Movistar are racing furiously. Milan and Magnier have made it back into the peloton and their teammates have repositioned them further up in the peloton to give them some sliding room. They’ve got 5k to survive…

BANG! Magnier can’t do it, he’s going backwards and with only one teammate for company I doubt he’ll be coming back. Jonathan Milan is hanging on and still has 2km left to grit his teeth through. This is tough going  for the big Italian though, and he’s only 3 or 4 riders from the back.

21 May 2026, 14:42

Giro: break caught, Milan and Magnier dropped!

Over the top of the climb they come, and the breakaway are swamped, you would never have imagined a break to lose a 2-minute margin on a category-e climb, but Movistar are motoring! An honourable mention to Jardi Van der Lee who pushed on just in time to take the mountain points.

Einer Rubio has started working on the front, and he’s dropped Pascal Ackermann at the back.

Whoa, now Milan and Magnier are also dropped but only 10-15 seconds off the back over the top, they’ll hope to rejoin but there’s one more climb still to come. Ethan Vernon is also in that group…

21 May 2026, 14:36

Giro: Movistar rip it up...

In hindsight, after what they did a few days ago, we should have seen this coming.

Movistar have come to the front, working for their Venezuelan fast man Orluis Aular. The time gap has been rapidly slashed from two minutes to thirty seconds! Lorenzo Milesi and Enric Mas, second yesterday, are rotating on the front.

Sprinters are starting to pay. Groenewegen has been dropped and has four teammates for company. Also dropped are Jensen Plowright, Tobias Lund and Luca Mozzato. And there’s still 3.5km of the first climb to go!

21 May 2026, 14:33

Drivers slam “special treatment” for cyclists

Whoop-de-doo…

> Drivers slam “special treatment” for cyclists as council proposes new ‘quiet lanes’ to make rural areas calmer and lower risk of crashes

Quiet lanes, Oxfordshire
Quiet lanes, Oxfordshire (Image Credit: Oxfordshire County Council)
21 May 2026, 14:16

Giro: New break stabilised

And just like that the sextet have a proper advantage, growing out towards two minutes.

This break are fresher and will be harder to catch than the original five. Suddenly the upcoming climbs become very important. Do the sprinters’ teams ride hard to bring the break back and risk putting their fast men into the red? Do the break prioritise strength in numbers and ride slower to stay together on the flat run-in, or do some try to push on to keep an advantage on the peloton? The first climb, the Colle Giovo, starts shortly…

21 May 2026, 14:13

Giro: Attacks!

Pfft, just as I leave my laptop screen to eat some crumpets, attacks start!

With 106km to go, and the break’s lead down to 40 seconds several teams launched moves on a small incline along the Adriatic. The break were caught but three of the original five (Geens, Tarozzi and Van der Lee) have joined a new group of escapees. So, the break now also comprises Johan Jacobs, Jonas Rutsch and Fredrik Dversnes.

There’s 90km remaining, we’re still 15 odd-kilometres from the first categorised climb, and Polti are trying to launch riders from the peloton to bridge the 40-second gap.

Exciting times!

21 May 2026, 12:55

Giro: 5-rider breakaway escapes

Juan Pedro Lopez, a small climber and former maglia rosa wearer now riding for Movistar, is not the sort of rider you’d expect to see in a breakaway on a sprinter’s stage, which maybe speaks to his hopes that the odds can be beaten. EF’s Jardi Van der Lee presumably feels the same having been one of the last break survivors from last week’s Blockhaus stage.

But they probably wanted better support up the road than the Italian second-division pair of Bardiani’s Manuele Tarozzi and Polti’s Mattia Bais. Jonas Geens of Alpecin-Premier Tech – who are without a sprinter after the abandon of Kaden Groves – completes the quintet, who have an advantage over the peloton just under 90 seconds. Soudal Quick-Step and Unibet Rose Rockets, working for Magnier and Groenewegen respectively, are sharing the workload behind. Everything seems under control…

Paul magnier Paul Magnier, Giro d'Italia 2026 stage 12
Paul Magnier, Stage 12 Giro d’Italia 2026. (Photo by Massimo Paolone/LaPresse)
21 May 2026, 12:31

Roglič to retire?

It’s news the world (me) doesn’t want to hear. The esteemed Daniel Benson has been reading transfer runes, and reports that Primož Roglič is likely to retire at the end of the season.

The 36-year-old is scheduled to ride the Tour de Suisse and the Vuelta a España this year and is reportedly eying the European Championships – a hilly course in his native Slovenia – as a possible homecoming/farewell.

Roglic Giro trophy
Roglic Giro trophy (Image: Francesco Ammendola – Office of the President of Italy) 

In other transfer news, another former Giro winner Tao Geoghegan Hart is set to leave Lidl-Trek. And after three injury and illness-affected seasons with the team, it’s difficult to know where the Londoner will go next. Fingers crossed it all works out for him though.

In better British transfer news, young talent Bob Donaldson has signed a contract extension with Jayco-AlUla.

 

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21 May 2026, 12:24

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21 May 2026, 11:58

SRAM wins landmark appeal over controversial gearing trial as court rules UCI failed to show how new rules would improve safety

A farcical situation, but by some distance the most frustrating part is the €300,000 from the SafeR organisation that was supposed to be ring-fenced by the UCI to devise new safety solutions. That money has been spent on this lost court battle…

> Is this the end for the UCI’s gear restriction plans? SRAM wins landmark appeal over controversial gearing trial as court rules governing body failed to show how new rules would improve safety

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Dauphiné 2025 Lidl-Trek Madone SRAM Red (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

21 May 2026, 11:38

Cauliflower driver wanted!

*Lord Kitchener voice*

Your favourite bike race needs YOU! (Pointy finger emoji)

If you like vegetables, and can tolerate driving on French roads then you can drive a cauliflower!

This year, E.Leclerc are looking for a driver of a brand new electric cauliflower car, a vehicle so new the company are using AI-generated images to show what the vehicle could look like (boo!)

We won’t show you that, so instead you can savour last year’s offering of strawberries cherries, melon and… *squints* bearded leek? E. Leclerc publicity caravan Tour de FranceE. Leclerc publicity caravan Tour de France (Image Credit: Callum Devereux)

TF1 report the car will not be easy to drive and the ideally young applicant should have had their driving license for at least three years.

And if this is all a bit too mad for your liking, just remember they’ll be coming to Britain next year…

21 May 2026, 11:15

Daily dose of motonormativity...

The private car is an inefficient mode of transport in urban areas. Behold the hospital car park outside our office

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— Prof. Ian Walker (@ianwalker.bsky.social) 20 May 2026 at 10:43

21 May 2026, 10:00

Giro preview: surely a sprint?

2026 Giro d'Italia stage 12 profile
2026 Giro d’Italia stage 12 profile (Image Credit: © RCS Sport)

So far at the Giro d’Italia, opportunities have been few and far between for the sprinters. Paul Magnier thoroughly enjoyed his time in Bulgaria, nabbing two victories ahead of Jonathan Milan. Then the Naples stage is probably best to forget if you’re the Giro organisers. If you’re anyone except Davide Ballerini for that matter.

Davide Ballerini wins Giro d’Italia 2026 - Stage 6
Davide Ballerini of XDS Astana Team winner of Stage 6 of the Giro d’Italia (Image Credit: © Gian Mattia D’Alberto/LaPresse/RCS Sport)

After many days of GC tussling and days for the breakaway though, this is surely a day for the fast men. The only thing I can see upending that result is if a strong break gets away on the uncategorised climb at the start of the day. But even if race leader Afonso Eulalio and Jonas Vingegaard are content to let a break away, you’d have thought the sprinters teams would be motivated to keep any escapees on a tight leash.

Whether the two third-category climbs that top out with 68 and 52 kilometres to go  are hard enough to separate the wheat from the chaff remains to be seen, but it’ll be tough to see the sprinters let another opportunity pass them by…

One final bit of info to bring you, with his third stage win, Jhonatan Narváez has moved to within 20 points of maglia ciclamino wearer Magnier. If Magnier doesn’t get a result today then he might be in for a fight to keep the jersey for the rest of the race.

21 May 2026, 09:14

Fuel duty freeze criticised by Cycling UK for “kicking the problem down the road”, as research shows soaring prices encourage more drivers to cycle

> Fuel duty freeze criticised by Cycling UK for “kicking the problem down the road”, as research shows soaring prices encourage more drivers to cycle

Fuel duty London cyclists
Fuel duty London cyclists (Image Credit: Rama, CC BY-SA 2.0 FR/Ayad Hendy)

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Callum is a News Writer for road.cc, having initially joined as a freelance journalist in September 2025. He is also a Road Book contributor and has written for the almanac since 2023. He has a master’s degree in Broadcast Journalism from Cardiff University, where his dissertation focused on Geraint Thomas’ retirement and the boom and bust of the domestic racing calendar. He also has a degree in Scandinavian Studies & Politics which is somehow even more niche.

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11 thoughts on ““The accusation I’m the inventor might be right, but it won’t happen again”: Campenaerts confesses over ‘pee-gate’; Segaert wins Giro stage with late flyer; Tour de France cauliflower driver wanted + more on the live blog”

  1. mdavidford
    May 21, 2026 at 11:40 am
    1

    Ryan’s deep dive on human waste

    Yikes – that’s commitment above and beyond!

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  2. mitsky
    May 21, 2026 at 1:05 pm
    2

    1) That awefull bike marking on the pavement looks like my Brompton half folded.

    Show Us Your Bikes
    byu/MahatmaAndhi inukbike

    2) Anyone else just watching that hospital car park clip on repeat?
    It is mesmerising. Like a lava lamp.
    But also depressing.

    The private car is an inefficient mode of transport in urban areas. Behold the hospital car park outside our office

    — Prof. Ian Walker (@ianwalker.bsky.social) 2026-05-20T09:43:33.559Z

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  3. ktache
    May 21, 2026 at 1:30 pm
    2

    Otherwise law abiding…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y7qd993vxo

    I like the 37mph 5th storey comparison.

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  4. Paul J
    May 21, 2026 at 2:45 pm
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    Campenaerts has been shown on TV coverage a year or two ago, the tour IIRC, doing his fucking disgusting bottle-pissing thing.

    Sick fuck.

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  5. mdavidford
    May 21, 2026 at 2:54 pm
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    a category-e climb

    Do they switch to e-bikes for that?

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  6. Geoff H
    May 21, 2026 at 2:56 pm
    1

    The interesting thing about that worn-out drive train, is that it is worn out! She is riding it regularly and obviously low(er) intensity. It is apparently her major mode of transportation. While I applaud the generous mechanic and I DO like the higher tech stuff myself, but we all NEED to support each other and the every-day rider —- even if it barely works, with out being snobbish or elitist. Just because I ride a XXX and you have a YYY makes about as much difference as I wear my hair this way and you wear your hair that way.

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  7. kinderje
    May 21, 2026 at 3:16 pm
    3

    I can only imagine the Telegraph outrage at cauliflowers being allowed to be on British closed roads at next year’s TdF 🙂
    Let’s hope the organisers ratchet up the gammons’ blood pressure by also having french beans and brussels sprouts cars!!

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  8. chrisonabike
    May 21, 2026 at 3:22 pm
    3

    Your reminder of a) the dangers to yourself of driving on unfamiliar mountain roads in the dark (possibly too fast…) and

    b) Some driven journeys are driven just to “have a drive” or “get out”. Why did nobody tell us that this happened and that every single driven journey wasn’t vital?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g483n8ly8o

    Luckily they’re back driving again! (“It wasn’t the car that failed. It was me,” she said.) Hooray!

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    • Backladder
      May 21, 2026 at 4:03 pm
      4

      @chrisonabike Luckily they’re back driving again! (“It wasn’t the car that failed. It was me,” she said.) Hooray!

      Seems like the sensible thing would be to repair the car and make her sit in the passenger seat!

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    • mitsky
      May 21, 2026 at 4:13 pm
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      @chrisonabike

      “Natalia admitted she may have been driving too fast on the unfamiliar road, which has a 40mph speed limit.”

      With this open admission, along with an investigation into what happened…
      Why is there no record of prosecution, loss of licence and requirement to re-take her driving test?
      And impact on her insurance renewal?

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      • chrisonabike
        May 21, 2026 at 6:24 pm
        1

        @mitsky surely “she’s suffered enough”? Plus of course there’s a “won’t you think of the (now) disabled?” mitigation lurking. I don’t know how well she was walking before but it sounds like it would be worse now.

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Rendel Harris 27 minutes ago

@slc Stolen licences would be cancelled and replaced just as you do with stolen bankcards. We have a wealth of means of identification that could be employed, e.g. fingerprint recognition. Of course it wouldn't be foolproof but the more awkward and complex you make it for banned drivers to obtain the means of driving the less likely they are to bother.

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slc 38 minutes ago

@grOg Or just know how to obtain borrowed/stolen driving license cards. Many years ago, when bank card theft was a cause celebre, a banking official was asked on UK TV if photo cards would help. He thought not, because scrutiny of photographs at tills is tricky.

in: Killer driver handed lifetime driving ban and minimum jail term of 25 years for murdering cyclist after dragging him under car for almost five minutes
Rendel Harris 40 minutes ago

@grOg Cycling does not "lead to bone loss", lack of any other type of weight-bearing exercise in conjunction leads to bone loss. Blaming cycling for osteoporosis is like blaming sausages for getting scurvy, it wasn't the sausages that gave you scurvy but the fact that you didn't eat any vegetables with them. If you drive everywhere instead of walking and spend all your time at home sitting in front of the TV that will significantly contribute to osteoporosis, does that mean that driving and watching TV leads to osteoporosis as well?

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Rendel Harris 55 minutes ago

@grOg So if nothing else it would make it much more awkward and time consuming for the banned driver and probably more expensive as one can't imagine his "plenty of mates" being prepared to make constant trips the garage for him without recompense. He wouldn't be able to refill on the move therefore his ability to travel distances would be severely limited. Most petrol stations have a limit on the amount of petrol that can be purchased in jerry cans, further constraining his activities, and this could be lowered. Just as it's an offence knowingly to lend your car to someone who is banned it could be made an offence to procure petrol for a banned driver. So there's no "of course it wouldn't work" about it, with your attitude we shouldn't have any ban on selling alcohol, cigarettes or knives to children because if they are determined enough they will be able to obtain them anyway. Of course if someone is absolutely set on disobeying the law it's almost impossible to stop them but the more awkward you make it for them the less likely they are to try.

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bathcycleguy 2 hours ago

Take a step back, and this looks like a rather silly episode of men with competing agendas and self-appointed positions slinging mud over a strip of green paint with some naff plastic wands. WalkRideBath- lead by a man who apparently knows best on women's safety Dave Dixon- overwhelmed with concerns about heritage in the same park where he had a massive concrete skate park built Bike Mayor/BCC- nice effort lads, but do you not have some women in your ranks who have a voice? And I don't remember the Bike Mayor vote... All bickering over a project lead by a woman who is also the local councillor. Surely in a representative democracy we should give a bit more credit to people who have stood for election, rather than the bunch of self-appointed 'representatives' above?

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rbrtribble 7 hours ago

@wtjs "Nothing changes if we don't want it to. I love you", (oops a quote from GEN V). I didn't need to put that last bit in, but hey you write so passionately and so long and obviously have an emotional attraction to cycling. "If you don't have a dream, how you gonna make a dream come true"

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grOg 9 hours ago

@eburtthebike Most of the people cycling mikey confronts with his vigilante behaviour are using their phone while stationary in traffic; while illegal, conflating those offences with the murderous actions of this deviant person is patently ridiculous.

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grOg 9 hours ago

@Rendel Harris Of course it wouldn't work; the sort of person that would be banned would have plenty of mates that would fill jerry cans for him so he could fuel his car at home.

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grOg 9 hours ago

@BroomBroomBroom I cycle commuted for 30 years, with a number of close passes and a few crashes that gave me pause to consider the risks of cycling on public roads, but what made me give up was a diagnosis of osteoporosis because cycling was my exercise activity and because cycling is not weight bearing exercise, it leads to bone loss; I now mix walking and jogging to commute and have introduced a program of weight-lifting to try and reverse the osteoporosis.

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chrisonabike 9 hours ago

More on the "e-bike scourge" from the beeb: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmn068ywr9e1o OTOH well, yeah - stuff that facilitates crime (and is cheaper / easier to get than cars / ICE motorbikes) is gonna be used by criminals. Plus: Well... I'm not happy either with the lack of interest in doing something about the mass sale of things which almost all aren't going to be used legally. But ... like guns? Don't think that's a helpful analogy there.

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