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range rover wrong side of ccrossing overtake - 3 June 2020 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

No penalty for driver overtaking on wrong side of pedestrian island; Mayor against pop-up cycle lanes because of inexperienced cyclists; More cyclists than drivers stopped on Box Hill; Sophie-Ellis Bextor in A+E after bike crash + more on the live blog

Welcome to Wednesday’s live blog, with Jack Sexty in charge and Simon MacMichael taking over this evening
  • by Jack Sexty
Wed, Jun 03, 2020 08:39
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SUMMARY

  • It's World Bicycle Day
  • "A blocked field of critical view likely to hide and kill a pedestrian or cyclist": lorry driver's shocking dashboard mess
  • Broken bike stands made to look intact so they are easy to steal
  • Councils can dish out fines for cycle lane parking: further clarification on the new rules
  • 28 Days Later come to life
  • Makeshift cycle lane removed by authorities in the Philippines
  • Walsall Council leader doesn't want pop-up cycle lanes... because of concerns over road safety
  • Surrey Road Policing Unit stop twice as many cyclists as motorists in Box Hill 'Operation Close Pass'
  • Halfords reopen a further 100 stores
  • Sophie-Ellis Bexter hospitalised after Thames path bike accident
  • Be like Mads and #GoByBike
  • Queen Maxima of the Netherlands arrives for museum opening by bike
  • Cyclist dies in collision with van who was 'travelling in the opposite direction'
  • Chichester Mayor against pop-up cycle lanes because "there are many cyclists who are now inexperienced", and cites rise in cyclist fatalities
  • Wiltshire Police say they won't charge driver who overtook on the wrong side of a refuge island because they gave 'enough room'
range rover wrong side of ccrossing overtake – 3 June 2020.PNG
range rover wrong side of ccrossing overtake - 3 June 2020 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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3 June 2020, 08:39

It's World Bicycle Day

Today is #WorldBicycleDay. An affordable, healthy and sustainable means of transportation, the bicycle has been the best solution for #NHS staff and other key workers to move around towns and cities amid #Covid19 pandemic. Here’s to cycles of all shapes and sizes! pic.twitter.com/UfRScDEjVX

— Sustrans (@sustrans) June 3, 2020

Marked by the United Nations annually, World Bicycle Day encourages member states to include cycling in their development strategies, improve road safety, advance the use of the bicycle and organise rides at national and local levels to promote cycling. Will you be marking it with a big old ride?

Today is #WorldBicycleDay 🚲

This is an opportunity to take stock of the benefits of the bicycle both for staying healthy & as a sustainable mode of transport during (and after) the global crisis: https://t.co/eylBmscTUB#ForNature pic.twitter.com/5yIJsE8QMh

— UN Environment Programme (@UNEP) June 3, 2020

3 June 2020, 08:39

"A blocked field of critical view likely to hide and kill a pedestrian or cyclist": lorry driver's shocking dashboard mess

Is this the disciplined and organised office of a top of his game professional lorry driver? No. Its a blocked field of critical view likely to hide and kill a pedestrian or cyclist. #JOUCVU pic.twitter.com/iwpT8Gvf0W

— Hants Roads Policing (@HantsPolRoads) June 2, 2020

It’s pretty scary to think that anyone was sharing the road with the driver of this lorry, let alone vulnerable road users; as Hampshire’s Road Policing Unit caught the driver with a dashboard piled so high with junk that it was clearly obstructing his view of the road. Hants Road Police haven’t yet said where the incident took place or what action they will be taking against the driver.

3 June 2020, 08:39

Broken bike stands made to look intact so they are easy to steal

@SteveAdshead @StretfordJane I’ve just been alerted to this damage at Stretford Mall – bike stands sabotaged to appear intact so thieves can easily steal bikes locked to them. @GMcycling @WalkRideM32 pic.twitter.com/QXSZeDmQEa

— Tom Jeffs (@tom_a_jeffs) June 2, 2020

This is a new one on us and rather worrying, as these Sheffield stands located at Stretford Mall in Manchester have been cut in two by thieves, in the hope that unsuspecting cyclists will use them. Local Stretford councillor Jane Slater replied to the spotter above saying that the issue had been reported to council officers.

3 June 2020, 08:39

Councils can dish out fines for cycle lane parking: further clarification on the new rules

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parking ticket - penalty charge notice (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
parking ticket - penalty charge notice
parking ticket – penalty charge notice (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Last week we reported that from 22nd June, council officials will be able to ticket cars parked in cycle lanes from 22nd June using cameras – and now the RAC reports that the fines will be to the tune of £130, and will also be issued for other offences such as stopping in a box junction and driving the wrong way up a one-way street.

Junior Transport Minister Baroness Vere said councils would have enforcement powers under the 2004 Traffic Management Act, with currently only London councils able to issue the £130 penalty notices using cameras.

3 June 2020, 08:39

28 Days Later come to life

Cycled into Bank this morning for my Home Office immigration appt. The heart of the City, this place is normally buzzing as one of the world’s financial sector hubs. This video was at 10:30AM today on Weds. Spooky. pic.twitter.com/2dttCtdzDR

— Shaun Wallis (@shaunbwallis) June 3, 2020

It’s still difficult to get used to just how deserted some city streets have been since the pandemic began in March… and here’s the scenes you would be greeted by today if cycling through London’s usually bustling Bank area. Spooky indeed…

3 June 2020, 08:39

Makeshift cycle lane removed by authorities in the Philippines

WATCH: Some MMDA officials remove makeshift barriers put up by a bikers group as a pop-up bicycle lane for commuting cyclists earlier today — on World Bicycle Day

📹 @CyclingMatters_ pic.twitter.com/RkgZqOG6IH

— CNN Philippines (@cnnphilippines) June 3, 2020

Showing that the battle for safe cycling space is a problem worldwide, footage is circulating of authorities in Manila removing barriers put up to protect cyclists while people are riding. According to Cycling Matters, this was the third attempt to install protective measures by cycling advocacy group Bikers United that was taken away by the Metro Manila Development Authority.

3 June 2020, 08:39

Walsall Council leader doesn't want pop-up cycle lanes... because of concerns over road safety

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Cycle lanes - 10 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cycle lanes - 10.jpg
Cycle lanes – 10 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

It appears Councillor Mike Bird needs to make his mind up, as the Walsall Council Leader was quote in the Express and Star as saying that installing more cycle lanes would present an “insurmountable challenge” due to the “dangers” of mixing cars and bicycles… which is strange, because the idea of cycle lanes is to remove the dangers of mixing cars and bicycles. He also claims to have seen cyclists “taking ownership” of the road and “riding two, three or four abreast”.

A full story on this will follow when we’ve got a comment back from Cycling UK.

3 June 2020, 08:39

Surrey Road Policing Unit stop twice as many cyclists as motorists in Box Hill 'Operation Close Pass'

Box Hill road painting 3 (courtesy Andrew Wright)
Box Hill road painting 3 (courtesy Andrew Wright) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Box Hill road painting 3 (courtesy Andrew Wright)
Box Hill road painting 3 (courtesy Andrew Wright) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

In Surrey Road Cops’ latest Close Pass Operation on Box Hill, they claim to have stopped and spoken to 44 cyclists and 23 motorists. They said: “As part of the operation a police officer in plain clothes equipped with video capability cycled as a ‘spotter’, identifying any ‘close pass’ incidents or other motoring offences as well as any offences relating to cycling or cyclists contravening the road traffic act. Officers on two marked police motorbikes were then able to locate and stop any road user who had been identified.”

They also say they responded to a collision where a cyclist hurt their arm, and stopped one motorcyclist for a fail to stop offence.

Mainly for words of advice about their cycling. For example passing a vehicle on the left at a junction or failing to check behind them before moving out to pass or turn or wven how to position their self at pinch point. Drivers where more about close passing, distracted driving.

— Roads Policing Unit (RPU) – Surrey Police – UK (@SurreyRoadCops) June 2, 2020

When questioned on social media what the cyclists where stopped for, Surrey’s Road Policing Unit say the misdemeanours ranged from passing a vehicle on the left at a junction, failing to check behind before moving out to pass and incorrect positioning at pinch points. This has led to some criticism, with some saying that they should be focusing on those who have the ability to do most harm on the roads; however Surrey Road Cops replied to one comment saying that “the vast majority” of offenders they deal with are motorists.

Hi Phillip. We deal with any and all offences that we witness. We can’t ignore some and deal with others.

The vast majority of offenders we deal with are motorists due to increased level of harm they can cause.

— Roads Policing Unit (RPU) – Surrey Police – UK (@SurreyRoadCops) June 2, 2020

3 June 2020, 08:39

Halfords reopen a further 100 stores

halfords social distancing 2 - June 2020
halfords social distancing 2 - June 2020 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
halfords social distancing 2 - June 2020
halfords social distancing 2 – June 2020 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Using a model they’re calling ‘Retail Lite’,  Halfords will open another 100 stores to take the total now physically trading up to 153. Before the reopening most of Halfords’ 446 stores were operating under a ‘Dark Store’ model, with customers placing orders out the front of the shop. The reopened stores will only allow a certain number in at all times, with a marshalled queue outside, and have safety notices inside reminding customers to keep their distance. Cleaning stations are located at the front of stores, staff are wearing visors and customers are asked not to handle products.

This news comes as Halfords have reported am increase in demand for e-mobility, with e-bike sales doubling. CEO Graham Stapleton commented: “With lockdown restrictions lifting many of us are starting to think about returning to work, and what our commutes will begin to look like. We’ve seen a big surge in demand for e-bikes and e-scooters, with members of the public turning to e-bikes to help them commute to work as an affordable alternative to public transport or driving.”

3 June 2020, 08:39

Sophie-Ellis Bexter hospitalised after Thames path bike accident

 
 
 
 
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EDIT – hello all. Thank you for all the lovely messages. I should have said that the main reason I posted was to thank the incredible folk who stopped and helped (although the sympathy is very cheering) so don’t worry I’m ok and being well looked after. Richard has been amazing and the kids are being very sweet ❤️ Lots of love. I ended up in a&e last night after I took a tumble from the tow path down to the side of the Thames on my bike during an evening cycle. I’ve put the photo in black and white so it’s not too gory. 🩸I am ok, just a bit bruised and sore. I want to thank the ambulance crew and the staff at west mid hospital (where I was born, as it happens) for gluing me back together. I also want to thank Lucas, Colin, Josh and Willow who were 4 runners who stopped and helped @richardjonesface and I when I hurt myself. You were so calm, thoughtful and reassuring. Thank you very much. I hope you see this message as I didn’t get your details. You’re all lovely people. Xxxx

A post shared by Sophie Ellis-Bextor (@sophieellisbextor) on Jun 3, 2020 at 3:07am PDT

The popstar ‘took a tumble’ while riding in London last night, and spent the night in A+E recovering form her injuries.

She said: “I am ok, just a bit bruised and sore. I want to thank the ambulance crew and the staff at west mid hospital (where I was born, as it happens) for gluing me back together.”

3 June 2020, 08:39

Be like Mads and #GoByBike

Be like Mads this #WorldBicycleDay pic.twitter.com/Ywi6fzNq9t

— CORSO (@CORSOsports) June 3, 2020

The Dane shows us that he also uses his bike to shop for vegetables as well as winning word titles in this ad campaign from Trek to support World Bicycle Day.

3 June 2020, 08:39

Queen Maxima of the Netherlands arrives for museum opening by bike

As America burns and Britain stumbles out of lockdown, Queen Maxima went to open a museum in the Hague yesterday. You can probably guess how she got there. pic.twitter.com/EK6ql0em2G

— Ben Coates (@bencoates1) June 3, 2020

While the spotter admits there is likely plenty of security out of shot, it beats that huge motorcade we’ve become used to seeing across the Atlantic…

There’s a video too – undoubtedly some security guys out of shot, but a stark contrast to the stormtroopers and motorcades elsewhere. Again, not a bad way to run a country.
pic.twitter.com/1ERGj09ULS

— Ben Coates (@bencoates1) June 3, 2020

3 June 2020, 08:39

Cyclist dies in collision with van who was 'travelling in the opposite direction'

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Police tape (Image Credit: CC licensed by freefotouk on Flickr)
Police tape
Police tape (Image Credit: CC licensed by freefotouk on Flickr)

Lancashire Police are appealing for witnesses after a male cyclist in his 50’s died in a collision with a Ford Transit Tipper van in Altcar, West Lancashire.

Police were called at around 8.10pm on 2nd June, and after being taken to Aintree Hospital by emergency services, the man was pronounced dead a short time later. Police say the cyclist was travelling in the opposite direction to the van when they collided. The road was closed until 1.30am this morning while investigators attended the scene.

Sergeant Steve Hardman of the Lancashire Police Tac Ops team commented: “First and foremost we send our deepest condolences to the family and friends of the man who died.

“We are now working extremely hard to piece together exactly what occurred and we would ask anybody who saw the collision, and has not yet been spoken to by police, to make contact with us as soon as possible. Similarly if you have dashcam footage showing the collision, or if you saw either of the vehicles involved in the moments before it happened, please get in touch.”

Anyone with information can call 101, quoting log number 1405 of June 2nd.

3 June 2020, 08:39

Chichester Mayor against pop-up cycle lanes because "there are many cyclists who are now inexperienced", and cites rise in cyclist fatalities

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Chichester_Think_Bike_Sign_(West_Sussex_CC_YouTube_still) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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Chichester_Think_Bike_Sign_(West_Sussex_CC_YouTube_still) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A road.cc reader has made us aware of an open letter to Chichester residents from the Mayor, Councillor Richard Plowman, who appears to associate inexperienced cyclists with a rise in cyclist incidents and fatalities. 

In the letter Councillor Plowman said: “The Government’s promotion of cycling is welcome, but there are consequences. Bicycle sales have risen a massive 40% and even with the drop to 1950s levels of traffic on the roads during lockdown, cyclists’ accidents, particularly fatalities, have doubled.  Road traffic is returning to pre-pandemic levels and construction traffic on St Paul’s Road, Orchard Road and Lavant Road has increased as building at White House Farm is under way again. I heard recently of a gentleman who had not ridden a bicycle for many decades. He bought a brand-new one, set off down his drive, wobbled, crashed into the gate, fell off and broke his shoulder. Hardly a help to the NHS!

“There are initiatives for so called ‘pop-up cycle ways’, but the overriding issue is one of safety. There are now many cyclists who are inexperienced. Children are often seen on two-wheelers that are too big for them. How many riders will stop cycling to work when the weather is cold, wet and miserable, especially when social distancing will mean few spaces at work for changing? The City Council is heavily involved in this matter, and advice and training will be available soon to keep road users and pedestrians safe.”

The road.cc reader who shared the letter told us: “This is after starting with concerns that people aren’t abiding by the ‘no cycling’ rules in the parks or through the city centre, (where there are no safe alternatives), and in the same breath talking about increasing general traffic, and highlighting HGV’s etc for local building works. 

“This is after the death of a much loved local lady, Gina McWilliam, who was killed by a HGV driver in Bosham in 2019, resulting in a ground roots campaign for a safe cycling route so people could cycle in safety into Chichester.

“I’m absolutely disgusted by it.”

Since the lockdown, there has been numerous examples of council and government figures making controversial comments about cycling infrastructure – Geoff Driver, who heads Lancashire County County Council, dismissed Cycling UK’s petition for cycling space as ‘childish antics’, while Walsall’s council leader Mike Bird somewhat paradoxically said he was against the installation of more cycle lanes because he belives bikes and cars can’t mix safely, and because of “cyclists riding two, three or four abreast”.

3 June 2020, 08:39

Wiltshire Police say they won't charge driver who overtook on the wrong side of a refuge island because they gave 'enough room'

While plenty of room was indeed given, it was all for the wrong reasons as you’ll see above, with the driver overtaking on the wrong side of a pedestrian refuge island to overtake two tandem cyclists.

The road.cc reader who captured the footage shared the correspondence he received from Wiltshire Police after submitting it to them, with the first response saying:

“After looking at your video I (sic) shows that the land rover (sic) crossed a solid white line to make this overtake (sic) if there wasn’t any bollard or white lines this would be ok as they have given enough room for you, this has been sent to the contact centre to look into.”

The second response stated: “Thank you for your enquiry. I have conferred with our Justice Traffic department. Unfortunately at this time they are unable to accept footage for driving offences. Footage is only accepted as additional evidence following a collision. We hope in the future that will change.”

After receiving the disappointing responses, the cyclist told road.cc: “The issue here is not about close passing etc, its about dangerous driving, I am sure a preventative tap on the shoulder is more cost affective than dealing with a later crash. Whilst people feel they can do things with impunity, the standards will continue to fall.”

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39 thoughts on “No penalty for driver overtaking on wrong side of pedestrian island; Mayor against pop-up cycle lanes because of inexperienced cyclists; More cyclists than drivers stopped on Box Hill; Sophie-Ellis Bextor in A+E after bike crash + more on the live blog”

  1. OldRidgeback
    June 3, 2020 at 9:08 am
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    The bike stands at the S

    The bike stands at the S London station I used to use (before the pandemic meant I was working from home) for my winter commute have been targeted in a similar fashion a number of times. I always check now and see if they’re ok before locking up my bike. 

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  2. Hirsute
    June 3, 2020 at 9:35 am
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    Hope they crush that lorry.

    Hope they crush that lorry.

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    • brooksby
      June 3, 2020 at 9:45 am
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      With its driver still in it

      With its driver still in it 😉

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      • David9694
        June 3, 2020 at 12:42 pm
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        hey, Rod Liddle, I see you

        hey, Rod Liddle, I see you

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        • brooksby
          June 3, 2020 at 1:10 pm
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          David9694 wrote:

          hey, Rod Liddle, I see you

          — David9694

          If I was RL, I suspect I would have blamed all that cr@p on cyclists passing by, Somehow… 😉

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    • eburtthebike
      June 3, 2020 at 9:45 am
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      hirsute wrote:

      Hope they crush that lorry.

      — hirsute

      With the driver in it?

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      • Grahamd
        June 3, 2020 at 11:33 am
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        Beat me to it?
         

        Beat me to it?

         

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  3. eburtthebike
    June 3, 2020 at 9:45 am
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    The bike stand trick, sawing

    The bike stand trick, sawing through it, has been used before, usually with tape around the joint so that it isn’t visible.  So if you see tape wrapped around a stand, peel it off and check, and leave it off so that the next cyclist can see the cut too.

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  4. ReadingTim
    June 3, 2020 at 10:13 am
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    “Hants Road Police haven’t

    “Hants Road Police haven’t yet said where the incident took place or what action they will be taking against the driver”

    …which probably means they gave him a slight finger wagging ticking off, a black bin bag to clear up the mess, and sent him on his way…

     

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  5. ReadingTim
    June 3, 2020 at 10:13 am
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    “Hants Road Police haven’t

    oops, double post

     

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  6. OnYerBike
    June 3, 2020 at 10:42 am
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    It might be new to Road.cc

    It might be new to Road.cc but it’s an old trick

    https://www.camcycle.org.uk/newsletters/125/article15.html

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  7. brighty
    June 3, 2020 at 12:18 pm
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    Is this bike lane fine law

    Is this bike lane fine law change UK wide or just England?

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  8. Hirsute
    June 3, 2020 at 12:21 pm
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    Councillor Bird said he was

    Councillor Bird said he was concerned about “road safety” after seeing cyclists “taking ownership” of the road and “riding two, three or four abreast”.

    “It makes it extra dangerous for cars to pass,” he added.

     

    Cars eh? Not drivers.

    How on earth do these ‘cars’ cope with trying to overtake other cars, let’s say parked cars? Do they crash each time or fail to apply the brakes or fail to use any basic manoeuvre ?

     

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  9. Awavey
    June 3, 2020 at 1:04 pm
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    Somehow I doubt ‘incorrect
    Somehow I doubt ‘incorrect positioning at pinch points’ involves discussing prime as an approved method, also who checks behind them in such a way 3rd party observer is satisfied you’ve done such a check,note that’s not about being situationally aware or not checking at all

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    • eburtthebike
      June 3, 2020 at 1:28 pm
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      Awavey wrote:

      Somehow I doubt ‘incorrect positioning at pinch points’ involves discussing prime as an approved method, also who checks behind them in such a way 3rd party observer is satisfied you’ve done such a check,note that’s not about being situationally aware or not checking at all

      — Awavey

      Quite, and what if the cyclist has a mirror?

      I’d love to have had a discussion with one of those officers if they’d stopped me for words of advice.

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  10. brooksby
    June 3, 2020 at 1:04 pm
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    World Bike Day, eh?

    World Bike Day, eh?

    Anyone seen this story:

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jun/03/air-pollution-in-china-back-to-pre-covid-levels-and-europe-may-follow

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  11. Awavey
    June 3, 2020 at 1:05 pm
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    Somehow I doubt ‘incorrect
    This ajax thing…

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  12. brooksby
    June 3, 2020 at 4:01 pm
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    Quote:

    driver who overtook on the wrong side of a refuge island

    Happened to me this morning.  Happens about once or twice a week.  Yes, it’s cr&p driving, but at least they are a safe distance away from me…

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    • HarrogateSpa
      June 3, 2020 at 4:39 pm
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      One reason it’s dangerous is

      One reason it’s dangerous is that people on foot crossing to the refuge may not look for vehicles approaching from the wrong direction.

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      • eburtthebike
        June 3, 2020 at 4:51 pm
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        HarrogateSpa wrote:

        One reason it’s dangerous is that people on foot crossing to the refuge may not look for vehicles approaching from the wrong direction.

        — HarrogateSpa

        Exactly.  By not taking action now, the police have normalised this behaviour.  There will be deaths and injuries resulting from this failure as it seems to be happening more and more.  Someone who gets away with this once will do it again, and the people who see it will do it and it’ll spread like a……virus.

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        • ktache
          June 3, 2020 at 6:13 pm
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          They are not obeying the

          They are not obeying the “keep left” circular blue sign on the retroreflective bollard.

          I think that is an offence, as I remember it, both CycleGaz and CycleMikey have filmed, submitted and gained prosecutions from the Met for similar offences.

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          • rkemb
            June 4, 2020 at 6:29 am
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            ktache wrote:

            They are not obeying the “keep left” circular blue sign on the retroreflective bollard.

            I think that is an offence, as I remember it, both CycleGaz and CycleMikey have filmed, submitted and gained prosecutions from the Met for similar offences.

            — ktache

            The account also says they crossed a solid white line to overtake, which is also an offence.

          • rkemb
            June 4, 2020 at 6:29 am
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            ktache wrote:

            They are not obeying the “keep left” circular blue sign on the retroreflective bollard.

            I think that is an offence, as I remember it, both CycleGaz and CycleMikey have filmed, submitted and gained prosecutions from the Met for similar offences.

            — ktache

            The account also says they crossed a solid white line to overtake, which is also an offence.

          • rkemb
            June 4, 2020 at 6:29 am
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            ktache wrote:

            They are not obeying the “keep left” circular blue sign on the retroreflective bollard.

            I think that is an offence, as I remember it, both CycleGaz and CycleMikey have filmed, submitted and gained prosecutions from the Met for similar offences.

            — ktache

            The account also says they crossed a solid white line to overtake, which is also an offence.

      • brooksby
        June 3, 2020 at 5:09 pm
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        HarrogateSpa wrote:

        One reason it’s dangerous is that people on foot crossing to the refuge may not look for vehicles approaching from the wrong direction.

        — HarrogateSpa

        I hadn’t considered that, sorry (the refuges where it happens to me most often, I don’t recall ever seeing a pedestrian actually using).  Mea culpa.

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        • HarrogateSpa
          June 3, 2020 at 9:02 pm
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          I remember a few years ago my

          I remember a few years ago my sister telling me it happened as she was walking her young son to school. No physical harm done on that occasion but quite a shock.

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      • Organon
        June 3, 2020 at 11:14 pm
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        HarrogateSpa wrote:

        One reason it’s dangerous is that people on foot crossing to the refuge may not look for vehicles approaching from the wrong direction.

        — HarrogateSpa

        I had a driver cut to his right when oncoming in front of me at a junction today. His passenger gave me a double bird. I am not worried about this behaviour for myself, I can see what they are doing, but they always cut across the corner sharply to do it instead of waiting. One day I am going to witness some poor sod or their child getting run over.

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  13. Rick_Rude
    June 3, 2020 at 7:56 pm
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    Is it me or has Covid reduced
    Is it me or has Covid reduced police to only putting effort into trivialities?

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    • David9694
      June 4, 2020 at 5:47 am
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      This has what to do with

      This has what to do with Covid??

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  14. Secret_squirrel
    June 3, 2020 at 9:51 pm
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    So Sophie E-B had an incident

    So Sophie E-B had an incident that was less Murder on the Dancefloor and more Suicide on the Thames Path?

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  15. Rome73
    June 4, 2020 at 6:34 am
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    If you look again at the vid

    If you look again at the vid of the Queen cycling to the museum it’s obvious that her security detail is the middle aged dude in the beige jacket behind her on the batfiets. (Knowing the Netherlands as I do)

    anyway, – in other news –  i didn’t know positioning oneself ‘incorrectly’ at a pinch point was a traffic ‘misdemeanor’.

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    • ktache
      June 4, 2020 at 10:26 am
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      I would very much like to

      I would very much like to know what the police’s “advice” is where to position oneself when riding through a “pinch point” and if this falls under the definition of “any offences relating to cycling or cyclists contravening the road traffic act”

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  16. dmgtree
    June 6, 2020 at 9:50 am
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    “Cyclist dies in collision
    “Cyclist dies in collision with van who was ‘travelling in the opposite direction'”
    Driverless van? Or was the driver called Van? The pronoun ‘who’ relates to a person or people, not inanimate vehicles. Road.cc should be setting an example with correct use of language. Either a bike and van collide, or cyclist and driver collide.

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  17. dmgtree
    June 6, 2020 at 9:51 am
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    “Cyclist dies in collision
    “Cyclist dies in collision with van who was ‘travelling in the opposite direction'”
    Driverless van? Or was the driver called Van? The pronoun ‘who’ relates to a person or people, not inanimate vehicles. Road.cc should be setting an example with correct use of language. Either a bike and van collide, or cyclist and driver collide.

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  18. dmgtree
    June 6, 2020 at 9:51 am
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    “Cyclist dies in collision
    “Cyclist dies in collision with van who was ‘travelling in the opposite direction'”
    Driverless van? Or was the driver called Van? The pronoun ‘who’ relates to a person or people, not inanimate vehicles. Road.cc should be setting an example with correct use of language. Either a bike and van collide, or cyclist and driver collide.

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  19. dmgtree
    June 6, 2020 at 9:52 am
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    “Cyclist dies in collision
    “Cyclist dies in collision with van who was ‘travelling in the opposite direction'”
    Driverless van? Or was the driver called Van? The pronoun ‘who’ relates to a person or people, not inanimate vehicles. Road.cc should be setting an example with correct use of language. Either a bike and van collide, or cyclist and driver collide.

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    • mdavidford
      June 6, 2020 at 9:57 am
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      dmgtree wrote:

      Road.cc should be setting an example with correct use of language.

      — dmgtree

      Why, exactly? It’s a website about cycling, not the Oxford English Dictionary.

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  20. dmgtree
    June 6, 2020 at 9:58 am
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    Oops!
    Oops!
    Apologies for the repeat posts. Error messages made it look like it wasn’t posting. Now can’t delete them ?

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  21. dmgtree
    June 6, 2020 at 9:59 am
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    Oops!
    Oops!
    Apologies for the repeat posts. Error messages made it look like it wasn’t posting. Now can’t delete them ?

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@leedorney Completely agree. There are two deadly weapons involved in this incident but in this country only one of them requires you to satisfy background and health checks before you can own one. Unfortunately the one that caused the most harm in this case was the one which does not require the checks.

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Midgex 9 hours ago

@jackcycles One should be informed by speed limits, not ignore them. Nevertheless, the limits per se are applied to motorised vehicles, and not to pedestrians, horses, or cyclists, and initially for the most obvious of reasons.

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Midgex 9 hours ago

@Ben Graham It is about energy, and to a degree momentum. Kinetic energy is m*vv/2 so yes, a cyclist and bicycle (say 100kg) at 40kph has noticeably more energy than one at 31kph (50 times 40*40 vs 32*32) a driver and car at say 2000kg firstly has vastly more energy than the faster cyclist, and secondly the increase in energy of the car from 32 to 40kph is also a lot more significant. One might think about frontal width and so on as well, but mostly consider the differences in energy involved. Actually, specifying the limit in terms of energy might have a salutary effect on Range Rovers and suchlike.

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oneillcp 10 hours ago

There is zero moral equivalency between a speeding driver and speeding cyclist. The capacity for harm and the likelihood of causing harm is so much greater for the driver, and this is bourne out in the statistics. 1,700 dead every year and 30,000 seriously injured; a tiny fraction of which can be blamed on cyclists not following rules.

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Ben Graham 10 hours ago

I feel all cyclists need to grow up on this issue. Cyclists cannot claim that 20 limits save lives, and in the same breath they don't apply. Morally they do. The legal position is a little greyer. Speed enforcement doesn't work the same way, and it requires a Police Officer to make a non-endorsable charge where speed may be a factor. Highway Code rule 69 is quite explicit - obey all traffic signs and road markings - all though of course this is simply a statement not the actual law and there are other errors in the Highway Code too (MUST stop at an advanced stop line on amber for example). We need other road users to respect and look out for cyclists and pedestrians, and all following the rule book and looking out for one another is all part of this.

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