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If we ignore this video, as
If we ignore this video, as there was easily 1.5m, probably over 2m and he’d already slowed, and just think of the situation you give…
If it’s a 50mph road and only 1.5m distance is available when cyclists are two abreast, it means either a car should slow to 30mph or the cyclists should single out.
I would normally slow to 40mph or less when passing a cyclist anyway. Speed limits are based on an absolute maximum and not suitable for all conditions, I take cyclists in the road as one of those conditions where the maximum is not appropriate (although that’s just me, it’s not stated anywhere like it is now for passing horses).
So, when there is light traffic, to me it seems like singling out is more trouble for the cyclist than slowing down is for the driver.
With traffic approaching that quickly, the cyclists probably wouldn’t have time to single out anyway before the car had to slow. So that means you would have to ride singled out all the time, then you lose the benefit of preventing dangerous close passes that riding two abreast gives.
Maybe, but the cyclists pictured are clearly riding along in their own little bubbles…Shields up!
They do seem to be chatting away, but then perhaps they were not concerned about the amount of space available for an overtake.
I did have a look at the location, it’s the A506, which sounds like a major route, but it runs parallel to the M58. So unless there’s a delay on the motorway, it’s likely to be very light with traffic.
I’d love to look that relaxed when cycling. I’m a bag of nerves most of the time, hypervigilant for the inevitable idiot driver of the day to appear.
I think Ashley misspoke there
I think Ashley misspoke there, the 2m rule got dropped. The HWC says ‘more than’ 1.5m when passing at speeds over 30mph. It’s based on the vehicle speed, not the limit applied to the road, which I think he’s misunderstood too.
It’s also just a guide. Nobody can be expected to judge that distance accurately.
(image screenshot copyright
(image screenshot copyright Ashley Neal, use under critical review exemption)…
JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote
My thought was the police would be more likely to take action if they have the testimony of the cyclist.It’s possible it would bolster the case, depends on what can be gleaned from the video footage.
There’s a long-shot method you could try using Strava. You create a short .GPX route that is in the opposite direction to the cyclist. Then use a GPS timestamp editor to alter the time and date so that it would have passed the cyclist. If the rider was using Strava and had Fly-By enabled, then you ought to see them.
Another option is to create a route in the direction of the cyclist that goes through a Strava segment. You might see them in the leaderboard tables for that day/week. Bonus if their uploaded activity is titled ‘got knocked off my bike’!
Just upload the video footage
Just upload the video footage to the police portal. They could deal with the driver without needing the cyclists details, and if the cyclist contacts the police about it, then they’ll have the footage.
Parking courtyards should be
Parking courtyards should be banned. The new estate near me that has them, hardly used, yet cars parked all over the very narrow pavements.
In this design they’ve got what looks to be a nicely direct cycle lane running through, devoid of pointless meanders and 90 degree turns. But it’s ultimately useless as a transport solution as it doesn’t connect to anything.
The new housing development
The new housing development in our town extends across fields right up to the secondary school. However, the original plans had no pedestrian/cycle access to the road next to the school! Kids would have been forced to walk a 1 mile detour. Thankfully sense prevailed and the council planning department ensured a path was added to the plans. But it just shows how little consideration is given to pedestrian access by the site architects.
Pretty impressive to be able
Pretty impressive to be able to ride one handed whilst stopping your baseball cap from falling off. Lightning reactions for that age and better conversational skills than I’ve got now!
Also on the local news, on
Also on the local news, on iplayer until 7pm (starts at 20mins in)…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0013x86/look-east-evening-news-26012022
I had the same reaction as you. There’s even a woman who is interviewed about the A82 who says that she doesn’t blame anyone, it’s the road’s fault!In this very sad case, the whole incident was captured on another vehicle’s dashcam. The same lady blames the weather in this article:
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/5533573/crash-fort-william-rhys-cousin-kids-death/Don’t worry, they’re on the
Don’t worry, they’re on the case. I spotted this on the news the other day…
And at what point does a car pulling out of a side road establish priority over a road user on the main road?
Generally, it’s considered the point at which the wheel crosses the line, but it’s rarely clear-cut and other factors such as vehicle speeds etc. will be taken into consideration.
It looks like a difficult junction for a car to turn right from, you’ve got poor visibility to the right. I doubt many drivers would consider cyclists joining from the cycle path, which is also very poor visibility (any approaching cyclists would be obscured by a large bush).
I suspect the driver didn’t see you until they were pulling out, then accelerated to try and get out of your way, before seeing they couldn’t pass the bus and slamming on (maybe assuming you would be in the cycle lane).
Glad you’re ok. I’ve done a similar thing before, following a turning car into a side road which is uphill. I got too close to the back of it trying not to lose momentum up the hill and expecting it to accelerate, then they decided to just stop suddenly. Ended up sprawled over their boot!
Ian’s nailed it with the ‘local knowledge’ comment.These days local knowledge = crowd sourced data.
A Waze type app that allowed you to quickly log road defects, traffic levels, close passes, etc. would be interesting.
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