After Dame Joan Collins last year called on London mayor Sadiq Khan to “do something” about cyclists “before the city is ruined”, Patricia Hodge has become the latest high-profile actress to launch a scathing rant about people cycling in the capital, claiming she gets “invariably screamed at” when she admonishes cyclists for “riding their bikes at speed”.
In a recent interview with Candis magazine, the Rumpole of the Bailey and Miranda star also questioned why cyclists jumping red lights or riding with no lights are rarely stopped by the police.
“I can’t tell you how many continue to ride their bikes at speed, with mothers having to swiftly move their buggies out of the way,” the 77-year-old, who lives in west London, near Hammersmith Bridge, said.
“These people see themselves as the centre of the universe and I think that’s very bad for society. I feel I have the right to say something. But when I do, I’m invariably screamed at.
“I always make sure, though, to point out that the only reason they’re angry is because they know I’m right.”
She continued: “And have you ever seen a policeman pulling a cyclist over because they don’t have any lights or because they’ve jumped the traffic lights?”
Hodge also told the magazine of one recent near-collision with an especially “rude” and “dangerous” cyclist in the capital.
“I was crossing Portland Place in London recently, waiting on the central reservation for the lights to turn green,” she added.
“As I stepped off, a cyclist, a man in his 30s, went through the red lights and almost collided with me. But instead of apologising, he flicked me a rude sign.
“I just pointed at the green light for pedestrians and he called me the worst word in the English language. And when you get older, I think you have an obligation to speak out when things aren’t right.
“I won’t let anything go anymore. It worries me that manners are going out the window.”
As noted above, the Jemima Shore Investigates actress’ anti-cycling rant – reported widely in the national press today – bears a striking resemblance to a similar diatribe posted on social media last year by Dame Joan Collins, after she was allegedly struck by a “masked cyclist with no lights” on the pavement in London on her way to dinner with Christopher Biggins.
In an Instagram post, Collins said she was dropped off by a black cab driver and forced to walk to the restaurant Rules after discovering that Maiden Lane in Covent Garden was closed to traffic.
“However, that didn’t stop a masked cyclist with no lights and weaving on the pavement from crashing into me, almost knocking me over,” she wrote.
The actress then turned her attention to London mayor Sadiq Khan and called on the Labour politician to deal with what she believes to be the danger posed by cyclists, as well as the apparent inability to be dropped off at her destination by motor vehicle.
“How much longer must we live with closed roads and cyclists who consider themselves above the law?” she continued.
“Why don’t you do something, Sadiq Khan, before this beautiful city of London is ruined?”
In response to Collins’ post, a spokesperson for Khan said: “The mayor is committed to making London as safe as possible for both cyclists and pedestrians.
“Walking and cycling have boomed in the last couple of years and the mayor has built hundreds of kilometres of new or upgraded cycle routes since the pandemic, and completed work to make some of the capital’s most dangerous and intimidating junctions safer.
“The mayor encourages everyone using London’s roads to do so safely to help make London the best city in the world to walk and cycle.”
Between 2016 and 2021, 2,472 pedestrians were injured in collisions involving cyclists in the UK, accounting for just over two per cent of the total reported pedestrian casualties (122,961) in that period.




















68 thoughts on ““Cyclists see themselves as the centre of the universe,” says actress Patricia Hodge in rant questioning why police “never” stop red light-jumping cyclists”
How does she KNOW what
How does she KNOW what cyclists think? Does she speak to a large number of them to get their thoughts? Does she get them through telepathy?
Or does her views say more about her, and what she thinks, rather than what cyclists think? I believe that this is called ‘projection’ in the world of psychology.
she communicated with the
she communicated with the cyclist hive mind
Car Delenda Est wrote:
Resistence is butyl.
Boopop wrote:
Resistence is butyl.— Car Delenda Est
She should hear what drivers
She should hear what drivers say to me if I admonish them for dangerous close passing.
Whilst I agree with the
Whilst I agree with the sentiment that there are a minority of drivers out there who routinely close pass and /or drive dangerously around cyclists and verbally or physically abused those with the temerity to complain about their mistreatment, I am also sure that two wrongs don’t make a right. I am all for calling out dangerous cycling just as I call out dangerous driving. Both need to be made socially unacceptable.
Yes, and dangerous is
Yes, and dangerous is dangerous. There are definitely some “problem areas” (electric motorbikes, some takeaway delivery riders, criminals who can’t afford a moped / car and yes, the odd aggressive “entitled MAMIL”).
But usually what people are talking about is “perceived danger” – people don’t have a good grasp of the actual risks. Plus there is an (important) quantitative difference I’d say. I doubt anyone would think to say:
“I am all for calling out dangerous five-year-olds running about without looking just as I call out wingers the size and speed of the late Jonah Lomu dangerously running about without looking”
Both dangerous. Not to the same degree.
Definitely, when it comes to
Definitely, when it comes to most cyclist v pedestrian encounters, the subjective danger outweighs the objective danger. And yes, you pretty well sum up the biggest problem areas when it comes to the type of ‘cyclist’ that most people will think of when they visualise a ‘problem cyclist’. I guess similar to me visualising an unkempt white transit or a white Audi when I visualise being subjected to a close pass. It’s human nature to put things in nice tidy boxes.
I look at this from the view of my mum, in her 80s, , vision problems, getting frail and a little unsteady on her feet. She is genuinely worried by bikes / scooters close passing her unexpectedly as she knows that being hit, even gently, is likely to have her fall and that is likely to do her damage. She is also worried by uneven surfaces and by cars, especially those who park on pavements. Does she overestimate the risk? Possibly. Do I understand why? Definitely and I try to take that into account when I read elderly actresses making off the cuff comments about cyclists.
Oh and returning to my mum, she is also worried every time I get on my bike to ride home after visiting her. She thinks it’s dangerous for me to cycle on the roads, despite me never having had a serious collision in half a century of road riding, and she tells me so every time. She isn’t anticyclist, she just perceives the risk differently to you and I.
LeadenSkies wrote:
Exactly – it’s very common for people to be terrible at estimating risks. The big, sensational risks are usually magnified by our ape brains (e.g. plane crashes) and the ordinary banal risks are usually ignored (e.g. food poisoning from bagged salad).
Thanks for the real-world
Thanks for the real-world case. That is not uncommon (and due to all be benefits of the last century increasingly common). But it’s not just the elderly *. Lots of people (including the occasional much younger burly bloke!) seem to get worried / triggered by cyclists – apparently out of all proportion to the danger.
That danger does exist – however it’s small (we should of course take into account relative abundance / distance / time travelled or some other suitable metric – although the “deaths” figures may not be clear cut as IIRC these report “involved in collision”). And there is a direct feedback loop which doesn’t exist with e.g. motor vehicles – it’s likely that a cyclist will also be injured in a collision with a pedestrian.
Perhaps objectors have indeed had a bad experience (not necessarily involving injury) – or know someone who has? I think there are additional factors here – the main one being those using quite different modes just tend not to enjoy mixing. Having cyclists “in our space” / “on the pavement” is an unusual thing for most. Combine that with cyclists moving fast but being quiet plus the authorities officially encouraging mixing** and there’s a recipe for conflict.
I would want to avoid that ***. But… while addressing this we should also take account the actual figures to guide how we set the priorities.
Of course I’m talking rubbish – like most things it’s gonna come down to politics plus what someone can get a pot of money out of quick, isn’t it?
* Those of your mother’s age may remember slightly different times of course.
** Or (as in the Auriol Gray case) the system being such a muddle that it’s plausible even for those responsible not to be sure of who is officially allowed where.
*** Just do it like the Dutch and make sure everyone has their own space – and it’s completely obvious who should be where!
Why do all these posts only
Why do all these posts only ever have one up-vote? Is it Boo and Rich CB basically jerking each other off?
Quote:
In all fairness, that is probably a completely accurate statement – she can’t tell us.
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David9694 wrote:
OMG
Does that, then posts online video laughing about it, but no immediate custodial sentence (suspended, so that’s something) and NO DRIVING BAN?
Bring back the Jerry Springer
Bring back the Jerry Springer Show, where these tawdry disputes can be argued out in the safety of aTV studio.
This article does remind me of a bugbear of mine: Why are sentences suspended for such short periods? After a murderous outburst like this I’d expect to have to be on my best behaviour for a good ten years to avoid jail-time.
Well whoever it was who rode
Well whoever it was who rode through a red light and was very rude to an elderly lady should be ashamed of themselves.
If its any comfort to Patricia Hodge there were indeed some cyclists ticketed recently in Surrey for riding through a red signal.
However, when was the last time you saw a celebrity using their platform to highlight people killed and injured every single day by drivers?
When was the last time I saw
When was the last time I saw/heard a celebrity bemoan the fact that at least one pedestrian dies every day under a motorist’s wheels? That’s easy – never.
Patricia *Who*?
Patricia *Who*?
… and does she have a new book/TV show/play/ailing career?
That was her audition for
That was her audition for whingeing boomer
She didn’t actually say she
She didn’t actually say she crossed when the lights were green (althoguh she might have done).
I just walled to the local shop three minutes away for milk and saw a driver go through a red light which was red for some time before he decided to ignore it.
Joan Collins is still alive ?
Joan Collins is still alive ?
There are all kinds of crimes
There are all kinds of crimes being committed all the time in London. Patricia whoever-it-is isn’t with the police all the time so just because she hasn’t seen any enforcement of a particular offence in her own travels bears no relation to the actual amount of enforcement that occurs across London.
ULEZ, and its expansion into outer London, and LTNs for that matter are about making sure that people don’t die of walking to school, as Ella Kissi-Debrah did. How many road and road-related deaths will it take for these people to realise that their sense of self-entitlement is actually killing others?
I don’t agree with the
I don’t agree with the hyperbole but in my own experience the advent of electric hire bikes (Lime etc.) has led to more near misses with the person on the bike riding faster than is safe for the circumstances while I have been crossing the road on foot.
Whilst the use of hire bikes
Whilst the use of hire bikes is self identification as a casual, typically incompetent, cycle user, we must welcome and encourage everyone willing to put the dangerous and unsustainable motor vehicles aside.
It’s how we unpick the last century of automotive bias in practice.
lonpfrb wrote:
It’s how we unpick the last century of automotive bias in practice.— lonpfrb
Whilst I agree with you, it seems a bit unfair to paint all hire bike customers as being filthy casuals. I can imagine enthusiasts getting a train somewhere without their bike and wanting to hire one just to get from A to B.
The folding bike has that
The folding bike has that covered by being able to accompany the user on the train and be unfolded for use at the train destination.
Everyone is welcome however they reach their responsible transport choice..
lonpfrb wrote:
Folding bikes are all well and good, but not so convenient if you don’t want to be lugging one around at your destination if there isn’t suitable parking.
Indeed – suitable cycle
Indeed – suitable cycle parking for the win!
Folding bikes are also generally (much) more complex, expensive and less robust for a given level of bike.
Yet again – do all the people in NL who travel to the station by bike (a LOT in some places) use folding bikes? Certainly not! It seems to be people arriving on their own bike, parking there (another opportunity for the UK railways, if they could up their game massively) and if they need transport at the other end either using a rental one (available at many stations, very convenient to pick up) or having a second bike that lives there, if a regular commuter.
chrisonabike wrote:
Technically, all bikes can be folded – you pay extra for the ones you can unfold and then ride.
hawkinspeter wrote:
Brompton folding cycles are office friendly and can easily sit underneath a desk to avoid the parking problem.
Other folding bikes are available and similar to park.
It’s essential to have secure parking for non folding bikes, obviously.
lonpfrb wrote:
I was thinking of more touristy destinations rather than an office. Some museums/galleries/restaurants may have a safe space to store a folding bike, but you’d need to check beforehand.
I’d suggest the UK’s
Edit that was meant for lonpfrb
I’d suggest the UK’s arrangement of hire bikes is more symptom (of inadequate on-street public transport provision and cities clogged with traffic) than ultimate solution. FWIW the ones that seem to work best in the UK are “area monopoly” ones with fixed stations. (Monopolies may be bad but since it seems cycle schemes cost money – they’re not completely funded by the users – this may be reasonable here).
In NL there is the national O V fiets system facilitating multi-modal trips. So at most railways stations you can rent a bike for “last mile” journeys using you rail card.
As always with any provision of cycles the question is “and where will they cycle? And who do you expect will cycle there (if the answer was ‘the roads’).”
Well, she is of course
Well, she is of course entitled to her opinion and we…..checks his notes….are likewise entitled to not care one bit about her opinions. As you were.
Oh Patricia. The ignominy of
Oh Patricia. The ignominy of walking to the restaurant after being dropped off by black cab. Heartbreaking stuff. Unfortunately, London was ruined a long time ago. By cars.
It’s hard to tell whether the
It’s hard to tell whether the ‘these people’ she mentions are all cyclists, or the cyclists who go too fast, through red lights and without lights. I suspect it’s a bit of both – starting with the anti-social cyclists, but then assuming all cyclists have a sense of entitlement in common.
As has been stated, the police do sometimes pull over cyclists for offences, and the risks from a speeding cyclist is less than those from motorists, but I’d be quite happy to see more enforcement of the speeding courier/delivery cyclists, which I suspect are at the front of her mind when she complains.
Just because cars are more dangerous doesn’t mean we should accept antisocial and dangerous driving from cyclists, especially those who are getting paid for deliveries etc. There’s also a limit to how effective it is to request not all cyclists are tarred with the same brush. If we want to improve pedestrian/driver/cyclist relations then we have to do our bit to reduce bad behaviour from cyclists.
FionaJJ wrote:
I’m not quite clear, Fiona, how, apart from telling off cyclists who run red lights (which I do virtually every day (telling them off, not doing it myself)) how I can do my bit to reduce bad behaviour from cyclists?
Have you tried any of the
Have you tried any of the following – they might make us all look better?
– politely asking them to be more thoughtful of other road users as we all have to “look out for each other”
– blocking them by cycling “in the middle of the road”
– “snitching” on them to the police
– complaining about them on internet forums
– just getting a car and not cycling (is this right?)
next up, Patricia joins
next up, Patricia joins Cycling Mikey on patrol around Regent’s Park
She’s an actress – she makes
She’s an actress – she makes things up for a living. Next!
I once came across a very
I once came across a very rude actor, absolutely no manners and an incredible sense of entitelment. Obviously, just like all actors and I have never been to the theatre since.
Celebrities who focus on bad
Minor celebrities who focus on bad cyclists and ignore bad car drivers do so because they use cars, so price-in their negative effects as just a part of modern life. We cyclists focus on bad car drivers and ignore bad cyclists because we use bicycles. These are understandable biases for private individuals. But journalists (and politicians) should focus on statistics to determine what is the real danger before publishing anecdotal accounts as attacks on entire subgroups. They should, but won’t. I’d say maybe when hacks who work for the likes of Candis magazine are replaced with AIs things will improve, but the AIs are being trained to replicate their lazy, phoned-in efforts.
You may do that, but I fully
You may do that, but I fully accept that some cyclists do stupid stuff, and I will criticise them for it.
I can relate to the complaints that people (celebs, or not) make, but am frustrated by their tendency to see the cyclists misbehaviour whilst failing totally, to see that it’s all types of road users.
It’s just “othering” – to put it politely
That’s what makes it so
That’s what makes it so problematic.
Just rode into town and back,
Just rode into town and back, 10 minutes each way. I witnessed 4 cars go through very red lights and not a single one of the drivers was arrested. Didn’t see a single cyclist go through a red light (in truth only saw 5-6 cyclists). So what the f**k is the old trout whinging about?
I’d be delighted if every cyclist and driver going through a red light was fined/prosecuted, but that’s never going to happen.
” I witnessed 4 DRIVERS go
” I witnessed 4 DRIVERS go through very red lights…”
http://rc-rg.com
If the road was closed, what
If the road was closed, what was she doing on it? Ah she probably means closed to cars. Cars never hurt anyone, do they.
I might be more inclined to
I might be more inclined to pay some credence to these whinging celebs if they ever made similar comments about the many more inconsiderate, dangerous, and law-breaking motorists in London. But I suspect the problem is they spend all their time travelling around in taxis, listening to black-cab drivers most of whom, as we know, have a pathological hatred of anyone on two-wheels.
Saw Whinging Celebs at the
Saw Whinging Celebs at the Hebden Bridge Trades Club back in the day! Where are they now?
Sadly still touring, and
Sadly still touring, and louder than ever.
kittybag wrote:
In 3.5 years of cycling to work in central London I was only put at risk by 2 black cabs and no buses. So based on what people do rather than say, it seems that black cabs are overwhelmingly driven professionally with due consideration of vulnerable road users.
Uber and minicabs are different and my experience of them was the exact opposite. Addison Lee especially.
“These people see themselves
“These people see themselves as the centre of the universe and I think that’s very bad for society. I feel I have the right to say something. But when I do, I’m invariably screamed at.
“I always make sure, though, to point out that the only reason they’re angry is because they know I’m right.”
She means drivers of course. Or does she absolve them of all blame because they are in a car, and she drives cars and doesn’t ride a bike? I think getting her to ride for an hour around any major city might just achieve a change of attitude.
Didn’t she used to have a
Didn’t she used to have a career?
a self important one maybe
a self important one maybe
So these cyclists are riding
So these cyclists are riding through red lights or along the pavement at dangerously high speeds but she apparently manages, as a presumably fairly static pedestrian, to have prolonged interactions with them whilst they are doing so? Interesting.
Well obviously they’re in
Well obviously they’re in such a hurry they have to stop for 5 minutes and have it out with anyone they think has momentarily impeded them, just like a few bad drivers…
The irony here is that by
The irony here is that by saying this she’s showing that she thinks motorists are the actual center of the universe.
If cops aren’t writing
If cops aren’t writing cyclists for running the red lights, and they see them do it, then that tells you that the city or state has some sort of law that ok’s it.
But I guarantee you that if I stopped at a red on my bike and didn’t move and Joan was trying to turn right, she would be the first person to blow her horn to get me to go through the light!
Talk about a group of people who think they’re the center of the universe, most actors and actresses think that way, and I’m sure Joan does.
Being a cyclist I’ve seen other cyclists do some really stupid crap, and then after doing it flip someone off who they offended with their reckless actions. so I’m not going to stick up for all cyclists, but people like Joan are extremely uppity, they think they’re special because they’re actors and actresses and think they’re the equivalent of being kings and queens and live that sort of lifestyle and expect everyone around them to treat them that way. Well, I’m sorry, but I put my pants on the same way they do.
I’d hazard a guess that the
I’d hazard a guess that the cyclists she encounters are Deliveroo/Uber Eats etc riders rather than the vast majority of law abiding riders.
Truth be told, they piss me off just as much as any minor celebrity would be too.
They are an utter menace that bring so much uneeded shite to every cyclists door with their mindless antics.
Unfortunately, motorists lump all bike riders together when forming their narrative when the reality is all together different.
I hope she enjoys her rant and 30 seconds of renewed “fame”. Without quantifying her comments with a bit more detail, she adds absolutely nothing to the debate.
I often wonder whether the
I often wonder whether the same people that criticise poor riding also demand that their burgers, pizzas or kebabs are delivered on time and piping hot.
Very possibly. It’s a common
Very possibly. It’s a common thing that people don’t necessarily associate action 1 with the impact it might have on action 2, especially when the actions are disconnected in time and space and the impact is only a “might have”. That isn’t unique to complaining about cyclists.
Ever bought a second hand tool of any kind from a boot sale, market stall or fleabay? Any link to the epidemic of tools being stolen from work vans? Any link to the exorbitant price for tradesmen these days?
dont understand why people
dont understand why people cant get themselves down to the local takeaways on bikes i guess they are just plain lazy hence they eat takeaways
Perhaps we should be
Perhaps we should be encouraging cycling in the following way: “can’t be bothered to walk? Getting the car out / parking a faff? Save time and effort with a bike!”
Oh, most definitely. They’ll
Oh, most definitely. They’ll also be the ones moaning about them congreagating in large numbers blocking roads or parking illegally in town.
Indeed there were so many on
Indeed there were so many on the pavement outside my favourite take away that I couln’t get the 4×4 safely off the road to allow traffic to flow and I had to switch the motor off while I waited my order, you know, for anti theft reasons (they look the sort I’ve read about in the Mail).
Oh dear, another celeb who
Oh dear, another celeb who hasn’t bothered to check the DfT’s crash statistics before mouthing off her Daily Mail type anti cycling comments…
The universe has no centre,
The universe has no centre, it is the same everywhere.
https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/centre.html
Fascinating stuff.
Fascinating stuff.
Firstly, my heart bleeds for
Firstly, my heart bleeds for Ms Collins. Google Maps shows Rules restaurant is halfway along Maiden Lane and that it would take a whole minute to walk there from either end. Oh, the humanity!
There was a time Patricia Hodge was ‘posh totty’ but she’s turned ‘grumpy old woman’. That said, whenever I’ve been in London in the last 20 years, I’ve always been appalled by the standards of bike riding there. But then I’ve also been appalled at the standards of motor vehicle driving and pedestrian stupidity. So it’s probably as unfair to single out those on human-powered two wheels there as anywhere else in the UK, and I couldn’t begin to guess the percentage of bad road users in London compared to elsewhere.
It does make me relieved I live north of the border, even if I was a hit & run victim within a mile of home 3 years ago. Mind you, my only experience cycling outside Scotland has been 3 MTB rides and 2 road/path rides in Northern Ireland, so it was hardly a surprise it happened here.