It’s another of those MGIF – ‘Must Get In Front’ – drivers that features in our Near Miss of the Day series today, although on this occasion the motorist had to sack off the manoeuvre after coming to the belated realisation that there just was not enough space to pass the cyclist.
The clip was filmed in Glasgow by road.cc reader Alun, who said: “On the way home from work I was approaching this roundabout where the lane splits into a right turn and ahead lane.
“I was in the ahead lane and deliberately once on the feature itself I take a wide line rather than hug the kerb to discourage motorists trying to squeeze me on the exit. This ploy usually works and forces a safe pass once on the main carriageway. Until yesterday that is.
“I’d shoulder-checked before entering and clocked the Citroën. On exiting I shoulder-checked again and the Citroën was right on my wheel and braking hard mainly as my line was blocking the exit.
“My first thought was, ‘Damn, that’s close!’. On reviewing the footage it was, ‘Damn that’s even closer than I thought!’.
“If you look carefully you can see the nose dip and the wheels actually briefly lock before the braking system takes over.
“Fortunately the roundabout wasn’t greasy or slushy like further up the road,” Alun added.
“Hopefully it will have put the frighteners up the driver and he will have learnt his lesson.”
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51 thoughts on “Near Miss of the Day 530: ‘Must Get In Front’ driver forced to bale out on manoeuvre”
Just sheer incompetent
Just sheer incompetent driving. Did the driver think the cyclist would just disappear?
eburtthebike wrote:
under the wheels……
Interesting date/time format
Interesting date/time format !
What is the hurry? is a common refrain from me.
Yeah. Camera doesn’t have a
Yeah. Camera doesn’t have a setting to record upside down in order to place the date/time format the right way up! The camera is upside down under the saddle and when I edit any clips I have to flip them and suffer the weird formatting.
The stunt gained him no time whatsoever. Hopefully he had to change his kaks after his emergency stop.
At least this driver had the
At least this driver had the sense to back off. Most just keep going for ever reducing gap
True.
True.
It’s not often you see videos
It’s not often you see videos from the future on here (26/02/2021) ?
Well spotted! Need to fix
Well spotted! Need to fix that one ?
Quote:
I was thinking this was the last straw, but it seems there is some support for the mixing the spellings. Unfortunately, it’s from the Grauniad!
That looked like driver
That looked like driver inattention, followed by panic when the driver spots the cyclist, and has to suddenly evade.
It looks like the driver
It looks like the driver assumed there would be the same “gap” at the exit as leading to the island without spotting the “Right Turn” only lead in. Stupid gamble especially as there was plenty of time earlier after the pinch point, and after the island to do the overtake manouvre safely for both parties.
It’s nice to see the driver
It’s nice to see the driver had fully working brakes and probably even a legally insured car. Please take note road.cc journolists and get your own house in order before criticising others. Check out hambini . com if you don’t know about this hippocracy. He did a decent bit of investigative journolism. I expect I’ll get deleted and banned from posting for informing people of this.
Derk Davies wrote:
Can’t make your point out tbh
Working brakes isn’t “nice to see”, it’s a prerequisite. Even then, they only make a difference when they are actually used…..
The criticism actually comes from the contributor and anyone who cares to post a comment. You can also defend if you wish.
Not sure either why you are scared of getting banned (and from what?).
Dude, just make your point and let it stand any stones that come its way on its merits.
Derk Davies wrote:
Well, that told road.cc…
What on earth are you on about?
What exactly are you failing to inform us of?
Go see what roadcc
Go see what roadcc journolists get up to on hambinis youtube (community). He has all the facts on there. It’s relating to driving rather than bikes. I don’t care about the personal stuff he wrote (although some comments from doctors are interesting) but people should live by what they preach. Today is my last day visiting this site written by hippocrates. So you’ll find the piece on the community section on his youtube. Well worth a read.
What on earth are on you
What on earth are on you about ?
Did you forget your medication ?
brooksby wrote:
Something to with a Deep Cycling satanic conspiracy that will be exposed once the fraudulent road.cc awards have been overturned, I believe.
Yikes – when I tried to post
Yikes – when I tried to post this I got a whole series of ‘Request Delivery Failed’ messages – maybe I was closer to the truth than I thought…
mdavidford wrote:
Cue the “X-files” theme… 😉
Derk Davies wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocrates
What does he have to do with bikes (or cars)?
brooksby wrote:
No, not that hippocrates. He means something to do with transporting horses……
Horses?
Horses?
hawkinspeter wrote:
Magic, nice graphic!
Hippos is ancient Greek for horse.
Incidentally Hippopotamus comes from a contraction of hippos and potamos, AG for river. River-horse.*
*The author makes no guarantee as to the accuracy of his ramblings. Repetition is strictly at your own risk.
Captain Badger wrote:
You are right. I love a bit of etymology. (The etymology of helicopter is my favourite, but that’s for a different thread.)
Steve K wrote:
Me too, thanks for the tip on Helicopter. That reminded me that a friend (fluent in German) told me that the german for helicopter was hubschrauber, which literally translates as air screwer. (although etymology freak that I am, I was looking this up just now and Schrauber is indeed screwdriver, but Hub is, well, hub… Still kind of makes sense but got me wanting to find out more)
Hub gets used in different
Hub gets used in different ways but I wouldn’t say lt means air in hubschrauber.
E.g. Hubraum is swept volume in an engine.
I had a combi woodworking machine that coud be moved using a long handle with a pair of wheels and a hook at one end. That accessory was called a “Hubdeichsel” which translates as “lifting stick/pole”. I reckon hubschrauber translates better as “lifting screwer”.
Dingaling wrote:
Ash, that makes sense. Thanks!
Derk Davies wrote:
What on earth does this have to do with road.cc???
stomec wrote:
Cycling lobby innit
Road.cc happened to criticise
Road.cc happened to criticise Hambini once because he decided to do sexist drivel about Michelle including him asking people to post comments on the size of her vagina. When rightly criticised, decided he was being picked on because of the colour of his skin and doubled down by trying to dig more dirt on Michelle. A year later him and his imbecilic followers have put a massive amount of effort to still discredit her (she is too fat to have babies apparently) and decide Hambini is right all along. I’m assuming Derk first appeared around then as well to post defences for Hambini (it is alright for him to be offensive because he is asian, has Aspergers/ Autism and lots of other points like that.)
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
Ah thank you. The article, and the comments on Hambini’s website were pretty toxic.
Of course with the spellings
Of course with the spellings etc, I do wonder if Derk is Hambini. Not the first time he has taken criticism of him or his methods badly and gone on sites to “defend” himself. I was thinking about an Hambini BB at some point but have decided not to.
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
Aaaah I vaguely remember this cropping up. Clearly our Derk has a long memory
Derk Davies wrote:
So if we call you a tw-hat tomorrow you won’t see it.
Is hippocrates the Greek god of containers for hippos?
I bet there’s long odds for that!
Today is my last day visiting
Today is my last day visiting this site written by hippocrates
Is this The Idiot or The Other Idiot back again? Fortunately, it doesn’t matter because he’s apparently departing forthwith in high dudgeon
wtjs wrote:
Could be Another Idiot – there’s always a third way…..
Derk Davies wrote:
I thought he’d been incommunicado for a while, tbh…
I do love an illiterate troll
Derk Davies wrote:
FTFY
I don’t entirely see the point that you are trying to make, to be honest… Are you implying that cyclists don’t have brakes on their bikes (possible, but veeeery unusual) and/or that they don’t have insurance (very rare, in point of fact, but you ought to check the statistics on uninsured motorists).
EDIT: PS – hambini appear to be a bike parts manufacturer. Is this some weird form of viral marketing?
https://www.hambini.com/daf-j
https://www.hambini.com/daf-j-maurice-brennan-michelle-arthurs/
The number plate was too small which apparently invalidates the insurance in some countries.
Hambini seems a little unhinged looking at that article. Also the subjects of the rant don’t work for road.cc
Anyway back to MGIF nmotd 530
But it’s nice to see Hambini
But it’s nice to see Hambini’s not carrying this whole one-sided feud around like some sort of mental boat anchor.
hirsute wrote:
Wow. Well, that’s ten minutes of my life I’ll never get back… Hambini really seems to have a few “issues” (and a lot of free time).
It’s rare that I’ve had a
It’s rare that I’ve had a ride in an urbanised area and this exact thing hasn’t happened.
Not sure what you can do when the driver behind chooses to use the wrong lane to try to squeeze past… pretty sure you’re still not supposed to overtake on a roundabout?
ChrisB200SX wrote:
I agree with you, although I’m not sure that the HWC explicitly mentions it. HWC 167 details over taking in generall
1st bullet “….approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road”
This pretty much covers it for me, but many drivers won’t be able to get their tiny little minds around that and know how to apply it to R’abouts.
9th bullet “….stay behind if you are following a cyclist approaching a roundabout or junction, and you intend to turn left”
Also this, although that is more about left hooks
HWC 187 is specifically about R’abouts, and more promising, but doesn’t explicitly prohibit overtaking
5th bullet “…In all cases watch out for and give plenty of room to
cyclists and horse riders who may stay in the left-hand lane and signal right if they intend to continue round the roundabout.”
“I was in the ahead lane and
“I was in the ahead lane and deliberately once on the feature itself I take a wide line rather than hug the kerb to discourage motorists trying to squeeze me on the exit. This ploy usually works and forces a safe pass once on the main carriageway. Until yesterday that is.”
As a motorcyclist I was taught by my police instructor to always try to take the shorter route across roundabouts for the same reason as gif77. I often see cyclists and moped riders ‘hugging’ the gutter and mentally tell them to ‘take the lane’.
Me too, it’s for stability
Me too, it’s for stability and safety, it doesn’t load the tyres and reduces the chance of sliding off. The other thing is, one is entitled to position oneself in any part of the lane they are occupying. If there are no white lines, it’s generally because it is too narrow but also there is an ‘imaginary line’ where 2 widths if tarmac meet. The other reason to straight line a roundabout is because they are where most lorries dump their overfilled diesel tanks.
Not sure why that roundabout
Not sure why that roundabout approach has a separate right-turn lane, when it doesn’t look there would be space for two vehicles to go round at the same time in any circumstance, and there don’t appear to be any lane markings on the roundabout itself.
It’s a shoddy piece of infra
It’s a shoddy piece of infra dumped on a T-junction that serves a trading estate. If you hug the kerb when going ahead in your car it allows others to turn right. Motorists tend to ignore this and cut straight across and effectively cut up any right turning vehicle. As a cyclist you can effectively take a strong primary even up to the imaginary line without hindering right turners and deterring those hell bent on cutting you up on the exit. As I’ve said elsewhere to hug the kerb puts you into conflict with ahead motorists on exiting.
In my experience locals have a tendency to use the r’bout to overtake cyclists due to the number of pinch points along that particular road and their impatience to wait until the bridge. The Citroen driver miscalculated my speed on this occasion.
In the past I’ve actually even had motorists overtake on the wrong side of traffic islands!
pic of static view from giveway
The driver seemed to expect
The driver seemed to expect the cyclist to follow the kerb around the roundabout, which would have given the car room to get past; instead, the cyclist took the shortest line straight across, causing the driver to cut short the attempted pass.
The driver did nothing wrong here, just a pointless video.
The Citroën was in the wrong
The Citroën was in the wrong lane for going straight on, left lane is ahead only, right lane is right turn only. Regardless of the cyclists position, the Citroën was in the wrong lane trying to pull off an overtake on the roundabout. Another example of poor quality driving.
Except of course for the sheer imbecility of trying to overtake on a roundabout. Part from that, fine….
I really hope you do not
I really hope you do not drive with observation like that.