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Cyclists banned from Hereford tip during coronavirus outbreak

Motorists are being asked to wind up their windows

Pedestrians and cyclists have been banned from a Hereford tip during the coronavirus outbreak because they cannot offer “mutual protection” by winding up a car window when entering the facility.

The Ludlow Advertiser reports that on Sunday Ralf Meiklejohn rode his cargo bike loaded with waste to the tip in Rotherwas.

“They stopped me when I approached the entrance and told me no bicycles were allowed on the site,” he said.

“It was practically empty when I went there. I said, ‘This is crazy. I just cycled about three miles down through town to dump my stuff.

“They rang somebody and they confirmed that bicycles weren’t allowed but they couldn’t really explain why.”

Meiklejohn said he felt the man was “just a bit jobsworth,” but a Herefordshire Council spokesperson later explained how operator Severn Waste Services has introduced temporary measures to protect staff from coronavirus.

“Whilst these are in place we are currently unable to permit pedestrians and cyclists on site,” they said.

“At the gate, staff are asking customers who arrive in motor vehicles to wind up their windows and read simple instructions before entering the recycling centre, creating a barrier against infection.

“Pedestrians and cyclists cannot offer this mutual protection, so for the time being our operator Severn Waste Services will not permit access.

“When the threat of the global pandemic is reduced and the safety of staff and public assured we will seek to make sure pedestrians and cyclists can once more access their local household recycling centres as they have in the past.”

Meiklejohn expressed surprise at the policy, given the Government is encouraging more people to walk and cycle.

“The crazy thing is once you get into the site you get out of your car and dump your rubbish,” he said. “Everyone was getting out of their car once they got in there.”

Not hugely keen to cycle a load of garden waste and ash back home again, Meiklejohn made a sign asking if anyone were willing to take it in for him.

One man agreed to once he’d dropped off his own waste.

“I said thank you. He went in and when he came out he said he was told by somebody in there that if he collected my waste it would be then classed as trade waste and he would not be allowed to come in with it.

“In the end, I had to go up the road where they couldn’t see me.

“I was holding the sign up and a couple of cars stopped and one chap took my bag of garden waste and another took a sack of ash I had. I managed to offload it all. It was very kind of them.”

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David9694 | 3 years ago
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Once we get to the point where it's deemed that you're only "safe" in your car, we're in serious trouble. 
Below is an extract from the Environmental Protection Act 1990. Check out para (2) - the disposal site has to be accessible to people living in the area served by the Council.

Banning non-motorised users (and then in this case, confounding his work-around: staggeringly stupid) is at best against the spirit of the Act and at worst, a breach thereof.  

I suggest Ralf complains to the local government ombudsman.  The Council (or its contractors) has to act reasonably - it has not done so in this case. 
 

51Functions of waste disposal authorities.

(1)It shall be the duty of each waste disposal authority to arrange—

(a)for the disposal of the controlled waste collected in its area by the waste collection authorities; and

(b)for places to be provided at which persons resident in its area may deposit their household waste and for the disposal of waste so deposited;

F1. . . .

(2)The arrangements made by a waste disposal authority under subsection (1)(b) above shall be such as to secure that—

(a)each place is situated either within the area of the authority or so as to be reasonably accessible to persons resident in its area;

(b)each place is available for the deposit of waste at all reasonable times (including at least one period on the Saturday or following day of each week except a week in which the Saturday is 25th December or 1st January);

(c)each place is available for the deposit of waste free of charge by persons resident in the area;

but the arrangements may restrict the availability of specified places to specified descriptions of waste.

(3)A waste disposal authority may include in arrangements made under subsection (1)(b) above arrangements for the places provided for its area for the deposit of household waste free of charge by residents in its area to be available for the deposit of household or other controlled waste by other persons on such terms as to payment (if any) as the authority determines.

 

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stevegs replied to David9694 | 3 years ago
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As a Herefordshire resident, I can now give an update on recycling centre info for this county.  Of the six sites, only those in Hereford and Leominster reopened mid-May: the article referred to about Ralf Meiklejohn also appeared in the Hereford Times at that time.  Having seen it, I immediately informed Cycling UK.  Ross-on-Wye reopened mid-June, but on a pre-booked only basis.  Ledbury, Bromyard and Kington will reopen week beginning 6th July on their normal opening days, which for Ledbury will be from Weds. 8th July.  All will have a pre-booking arrangement, which can only be done online and "Bicycles and pedestrians are NOT currently permitted" - see https://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/directory_record/36/ledbury_household_recycling_centre
The word 'currently' is very open-ended...  There is no such restriction stated on the council's web pages for Hereford or Leominster - which indicates Mr. Meiklejohn's case was probably a jobsworth being an a***hole.  I thought Mr. Meiklejohn was very restrained!

So are these sites the last in England to reopen?  Whilst it might be argued that CV19 was a force majeure that initially required closure to all, by not admitting those who don't own a car (or choose not to drive such a short distance) - or don't have internet access to pre-book - Herefordshire Council is discriminating against some of its residents.  This is quite apart from going against central government 'policy' to encourage cycling and walking instead of driving.

Thanks, David, for the info re. the EPA.  I shall be pursuing this with Herefordshire Council and my MP initially, and I'm prepared to take it to the Ombudsman if necessary.  As has been pointed out by others, once a driver gets out of his/her tin Covid bubble, they become a pedestrian.  And what about motorcyclists or drivers of open-topped cars?

Clearly this stupid attitude is going to encourage fly-tipping.  Fortunately not much evidence of it round here (yet), and although I don't condone it generally, I have had to make an exception during this 3-month closure for garden waste.  There is a fair sized area of waste land about 300m from here to which I have taken 4 bags of dead conifer leaves, twigs and other tree debris on 6 journeys with my bike trailer - and deposited them inconspicuously at least 3m from the path.  That's 24 bags-worth: more than I have space for (and I don't possess 24 bags!)

Those who consider I have been environmentally irresponsible, please consider this: Suppose I had a total of 24 bags and I could get them all in my car at once (which I can't), an environmental audit would surely conclude I would have done more damage by driving 250m with a cold engine, sitting in a queue for an indeterminate time and then driving 250m back - all the time with the engine below optimal working temperature.

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muhasib | 3 years ago
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Its the same in Waverley (SW Surrey) banning cycles and walk ins since before lockdown I was told it's for ANPR reasons so they can record who is dropping off waste.

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brooksby replied to muhasib | 3 years ago
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Same in north somerset. Except that my car's vintage black and silver plates don't get recognised by anpr... So what's the point of number plate scanning?

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David9694 replied to muhasib | 3 years ago
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Not sure that adds up. The registered keeper's address and whether it's a local resident dumping their own waste aren't quite the same thing. 

It's not my field, but my understanding is that ANPR - presumably live linked to DVLA in this case - can only be used for law enforcement purposes. 

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stevegs replied to David9694 | 3 years ago
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David9694 wrote:

It's not my field, but my understanding is that ANPR - presumably live linked to DVLA in this case - can only be used for law enforcement purposes. 

Many supermarkets use it (eg. my local Tesco - you can see the cameras mounted on a pole near the entrance).  Some time ago, a friend of mine called there on his way to work one day and again on his way home - and got a £70 ticket because the silly thing didn't pick him up when he left that morning.  This is not law-enforcement: overstaying your welcome in a car park is a civil matter.  I have fun confusing them with the Norton - whose single rear number plate can only be picked up when I leave....

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Sriracha | 3 years ago
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"because they cannot offer “mutual protection” by winding up a car window"

Ok, so half the message has got through - the bit about mutual protection. Now, if we can only get them to understand the purpose of ordinary facemasks - er, mutual protection. Much simpler than carting around a window on wheels with an engine attached.

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ktache | 3 years ago
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I went to The Ludlow Advertiser story, I like the look of Ralf's cargo bike, could be e assist.  Pretty much perfect for transporing that big bag of waste to the site.

Could be an Urban Arrow Flatbed, someone suggested it in the comments, curved seat stays kind of gives it away.

At some point I want to get a Surly Ted trailer, big load capacity, big shops, maybe some furniture moves and perhaps taking waste to the dump, if they will let me.  Don't like to always rely on the better half and her tiny car.

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Cargobike replied to ktache | 3 years ago
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Yes, it's definitely an Urban Arrow.

Here in Derby I've never had a problem taking waste to the tip on my cargobike, in fact the operatives just wave me through rather than making me sit in line with all the cars queueing.

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Daveyraveygravey | 3 years ago
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This one has tipped me over edge! I am fucking sick of people having a go at "me and my kind" because we sometimes choose not to get about in a monster truck or some other over engineered bastard vehicle. Every where I go, every media outlet I look at, there's a chippy gobby twat questioning everything I do. I wouldn't dream of cycling to my tip, I have a NORMAL road bike and a normal mtb, one rucksack doesn't dent the mountain of rubbish I need to get rid of and 12 miles is too far to walk. But it is no more dangerous to walk or ride to my tip, until you're in there when all the clueless cunts are trying to drive their mahoosive vehicles forwards and backwards and also work their phones and not kill their spouses

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eburtthebike | 3 years ago
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Clearly just another cycle hater in charge making decisions.  Perhaps they'd had to wait for a few seconds behind a bike the day they decided this policy.

I used to live close to my local recycling centre, and walked there with my dead toaster and walked through the gate, when an operative rushed over to me and told me pedestrians weren't allowed.  I pointed out that all the drivers became pedestrians when they got out to actually dump the rubbish and he said "that's different" and I wasn't allowed to dump the toaster or I'd be in trouble.  I walked to the small electrical bin, threw in the toaster and walked out.

Despite being a notorious criminal, I still retain my freedom.  And now I've moved they'll never catch me.

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HoarseMann | 3 years ago
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get one of these bad boys for the cargo bike, problem sorted?!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B082CZ8G6K/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_ZQSVEbS8MYBCX

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Dao replied to HoarseMann | 3 years ago
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dunno, no "windows" to wind up after winding them down to be told to wind them up!

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alchemilla | 3 years ago
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Our local tips have long been car only, presumably for some spurious health and safety rule. I would hope that one outcome of this crisis is that this sort of nonsense is ended

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quiff | 3 years ago
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“The crazy thing is once you get into the site you get out of your car and dump your rubbish,” he said. “Everyone was getting out of their car once they got in there.”

This. But also:

“At the gate, staff are asking customers who arrive in motor vehicles to wind up their windows and read simple instructions before entering the recycling centre, creating a barrier against infection."

So they're approaching cars and talking to the occupants first (presumably through open windows; risk) to ask them to wind their window up to reduce that risk when driving from there to the bit where they're allowed to get out of their car and be a free-range risk?

TBH, I was surprised the tip normally allowed cyclists or pedestrians at all - my nearest is a car-only zones.

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AlsoSomniloquism | 3 years ago
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So how do the people unload their waste unless by getting out of the car? And surely if no real interaction is going on with the site staff at the entrance apart from reading  a sign, the cyclist would be on the "passenger side" so 2 m distance approximately. 

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rct replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 3 years ago
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Harrow is only open to private cars as well, no cyclists or pedeststrians.

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