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Driver hits cyclist after rushing overtake
YouTube) (Image Credit: Yoshida Akito/YouTube)

Impatient driver hits cyclist after rushing overtake…but it’s not his fault (apparently); Doull’s ink-redible tattoo mishap; What’s Cav scared of?; You shall not pass!; Alaphilippe’s sweaty pain cave; Cyclocross VAR; Cool new app + more on the live blog

It’s the start of a new week and Dan Alexander is here your Monday live blog
  • by Dan Alexander
Mon, Nov 29, 2021 09:06
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SUMMARY

  • Impatient driver hits cyclist after rushing overtake...but it's not his fault (apparently)
  • A world champion's pain cave...Julian Alaphilippe shows off his sparkly winter set-up
  • You shall not pass! A Monday blocked bike lane bonanza
  • Cav's banana phobia
  • Cyclocross VAR: Was there contact?
  • CycleBump: How smooth is your route?
  • Winning Olympic gold is a day you'll never forget...or not...Owain fooled by wrong date tattoo
  • Who'll be getting one of these for Christmas?
  • Mr Tickle riding a bicycle...+ all the rest of the reaction to our main live blog story of the day
  • Catnip 303s or DT Swhiskers? Feline like a new set of wheels...
  • So you think you know how a bike works...
  • Cav proud to have Quick-Step's 800th win but takes more pleasure from Fabio Jakobsen's comeback
  • Taking n+1 to the nth degree (two n's for the price of one)
  • Wine, beards and cycling...a hipster's paradise
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29 November 2021, 09:06

Impatient driver hits cyclist after rushing overtake...but it's not his fault (apparently)

Perhaps if everybody had just seen their side, as recommended by TfL, this driver hitting a cyclist wouldn’t have caused a roadside debate. Interestingly the driver’s main concern seemed to be the rider touching his property…”Bro, that’s my property…”…”Yeah, this is my life…” pretty much sums up the road safety stakes…

With a bit more explaining…”What I’m saying to you there is a car on the other side of the road, you’re not on the edge…” the motorist tried to make the case for that pesky bike rider getting out of his more important Mercedes’ way.

> Transport for London slammed for “victim-blaming” road safety ad (+ video)

And here we are…”So what, I have to drive slowly for you?” Ermmm yeah, pretty much. “Bro, you’re lucky I’m controlling myself, I should be kicking your bike right now.” How very considerate…

Mercedes man continued to show a surprising amount of disgust about someone hitting his car considering said car had just been driven into another road user…perhaps in true ‘See their side’ spirit, the pair exchanged apologies and got on with their journeys…oh wait, no, here we go again…

Mercedes man: “It would be a beautiful world if everyone took consideration, but just protect yourself first…”

The cyclist explained in the description of the video on YouTube that the incident was reported to Met Police and went to court, but was dismissed.

29 November 2021, 09:06

A world champion's pain cave...Julian Alaphilippe shows off his sparkly winter set-up

A seasoned indoor trainer user, editor Jack’s first reaction to Julian Alaphilippe’s pain cave was to wonder if the world champ sweats? No towel or fan seems like a fast track to puddles and salty bar tape. In fairness, we’ve heard being unable to sweat is a pretty serious medical condition often accompanied by memorable trips to Pizza Express in Woking.

Also, if we’re going to be really picky, has a world champion on the road earned the right to a rainbow band trainer? I know, I know, nobody wants another do you have to earn the rainbow bands argument…but if the answer’s ‘you have to earn it’ then should the rainbow trainer be reserved solely for virtual world champs? Yes, I’m aware the actual correct answer to this paragraph is ‘who gives a *insert expletive*?’…

This time last year, during lockdown, we had readers from around the world send in their pain cave pictures, and boy did you lot deliver…if you need some home trainer inspiration check out our 16 of the best lockdown pain caves and turbo training set ups feature.

29 November 2021, 09:06

You shall not pass! A Monday blocked bike lane bonanza

We’ve enough blocked bike lane content to last the rest of the week…from fallen trees to a badly parked Vauxhall (and some help from Mother Nature). First up, in Manchester, where the snow has been making some wonder if the council could not give cycle lanes the same treatment as the roads…

⁦@TamesideCouncil⁩ there’s a pavement and a cycle path under here. Right outside Guide Bridge station. What’s your suggestion for walking /cycling to/from the station? pic.twitter.com/DFpgfimZ75

— Dábhidh Beannaichd Tigainn (@Dbelldb1) November 29, 2021

And it’s not just here in the UK…

If only drivers stayed out of our bike lanes the way snowplows do. pic.twitter.com/ZV5FjSExjW

— Tom Flood (@tomflood1) November 28, 2021

The solution?

Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow. pic.twitter.com/cDEb7Zae2n

— Iruñeko Critical Cycling (@irucriticycling) November 27, 2021

At least the snow gave an easy way of getting this message across…

.@badlyparkedbrum pic.twitter.com/HuNjrwyQN6

— Sophie Watson 🚲 (@swat_transport) November 28, 2021

Sophie said her hands were too cold to hang around for the ‘and pavement’ follow up. It even got a shout-out from Badly Parked Brum, an account dedicated to the art of badly parked vehicles in the Second City. You Park Like a C*** also gave it a retweet…we’re sure that account is pretty self-explanatory…

And how about this one? 

⚠️ Warning. Do not park in cycle lanes. Bloody cyclists 😂😂 pic.twitter.com/Z1avkrKd0J

— Up the Wall! www.dogslifebooks.co.uk (@audrey2macs) November 27, 2021

Those guerilla cyclists must have been out chopping down trees again… 

29 November 2021, 09:06

Cav's banana phobia

Learnings from new Mark Cavendish 📗

– He has phobia of 🍌
– He’s obsessed with Ancient Rome
– He hates riders telling press “We’ll see how it goes” (“Fuck off, you’re paid €5mill!”) but caught self doing it repeatedly at TdF
– He offered to strip for Peter Sagan on st6 of TdF

— Daniel Friebe (@friebos) November 29, 2021

Wise idea to avoid banana peels if you want to stay upright…

29 November 2021, 09:06

Cyclocross VAR: Was there contact?

A reminder that #cyclocross is crazy. https://t.co/plDFOuu5kL

— up.bike (@updotbike) November 28, 2021

Let’s slow that one down and get Roy Keane and Jamie Carragher to go at eachother…

We need VAR for this one.pic.twitter.com/BH72LnOhOY

— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) November 29, 2021

Ultimately it didn’t matter as Eli Iserbyt held off Toon Aerts on the final lap to win the World Cup event in Besançon by ten seconds. But what do we reckon? Foul? Yellow card? He was the last man…it could be red. 

29 November 2021, 09:06

CycleBump: How smooth is your route?

CycleBump
CycleBump (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
CycleBump
CycleBump (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Some of the details here are a little sketchy considering our reliance on Google to translate Japanese but there now appears to be an app for measuring and viewing bumpiness of roads. Could we soon see Komoot and others giving you the smoothest possible ride option?

BumpRecorder was originally designed for use in cars, but has now also released the CycleBump, an app that measures road surface conditions. According to the app’s website it has already accumulated 3.4 million kilometers of road surface ratings, allowing users to check the unevenness of roads before heading out the door.

29 November 2021, 09:06

Winning Olympic gold is a day you'll never forget...or not...Owain fooled by wrong date tattoo

 
 
 
 
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It’s a very popular trend these days — Olympic Games tattoos. A permanent reminder that you achieved the pinnacle of your sport. A memory, achievement and ink-based memento that will be there forever…

Poor Owain Doull made a bit of a mishap, however, when getting his date of glory inked on his arm…the mistake? Doull won gold on the 12th of August, not the 13th.

The Welsh cyclist, who is leaving Ineos Grenadiers for EF Education-Nippo this winter, told his soon-to-be ex-teammates Geraint Thomas and Luke Rowe all about the blunder on their Watts Occuring podcast…

“I was super happy with it and thought it looked sick. I put a photo of it on Instagram. And then there were comments that said ‘did you not win the Olympics on the 12th?’

“My tattoo said the 13th. I was like ‘this guy doesn’t know what he is talking about – delete that comment.’ Another guy comments ‘you sure that is right date’ and by the third guy I thought I should check this now and turns out I was wrong.”

Apparently the team pursuit gold medallist has since been back to get the error fixed. Changing a three back to a two sounds like it could be tricky though. Seven to nine, one to nine, three to eight — no problem, but three to two? We’ll reserve judgement until we’ve seen the before and after photos…

29 November 2021, 09:06

Who'll be getting one of these for Christmas?

Spotted in Waitrose 😂 pic.twitter.com/NMpbLfV3JC

— 🚴🏻‍♂️Ralpha (aka Phil)🚴🏻‍♂️ (@2wheelsnot4) November 28, 2021

29 November 2021, 09:06

Mr Tickle riding a bicycle...+ all the rest of the reaction to our main live blog story of the day

But listen, the driver and car were apparently PAST the cyclist when he knocked on the side window…
I guess it was Mr Tickle riding then

— Stuart Baillie (@StuInNorway) November 29, 2021

Right, let’s kick off the afternoon with some reaction to our big story of the day…THAT video of a motorist colliding with a cyclist before making some questionable claims in the argument that followed…

Stuart Spencer said the Merc driver’s logic is the perfect example of “the sense of entitlement that has invaded so much of society today.”

On Facebook, Jackie Fraser said she had experienced something similar…”I once had a driver complete a high speed u turn into me, and then berate me about his paintwork.”

Seems a decent time to pull up this exchange between the driver and cyclist in the clip…”Bro, that’s my property…”…”Yeah, this is my life…”

Liam Pike commented: “He knows he is too close and just wants to have a pop at the cyclists. You don’t rush a overtake like that and spend six mins arguing about.”

Plenty of discussion under the live blog too…

BigE said: “Surely if driver gives 1.5m as in Highway Code cyclist would not be able to touch the car!”

Mungecrundle added: “Mercedes Man – The old ‘It’s your own fault, you forced me to overtake when it was dangerous to do so’ routine. I’m not sure if this is some sort of Vulcan mind link thing that cyclists use to force bad driving or some sort of remote control over vehicle steering and speed functions.”

And one final thought from wycombe wheeler, “I’d hate to be a delivery driver if people react like this to people knocking on their doors. Or is it just car doors that are super sensitive?”

29 November 2021, 09:06

Catnip 303s or DT Swhiskers? Feline like a new set of wheels...

Anyone else’s cat take an active interest in what wheelset you are buying? Ok, just mine then! 😂 pic.twitter.com/f1EdH4peGz

— PeerQ (@peerq) November 28, 2021

You’ve checked the road.cc wheelset guide, but don’t forget to consult your four-legged friend before grabbing yourself a Cyber Monday upgrade… 

29 November 2021, 09:06

So you think you know how a bike works...

Pretty impressive this is the eighth highest trending video on YouTube at the moment with more than two million views in the last 24 hours…think you know how a bike works?

29 November 2021, 09:06

Cav proud to have Quick-Step's 800th win but takes more pleasure from Fabio Jakobsen's comeback

2021 Mark Cavendish Tour of Turkey Stage 2 Victory - credit Stuart Franklin Getty Images
2021 Mark Cavendish Tour of Turkey Stage 2 Victory - credit Stuart Franklin Getty Images (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2021 Mark Cavendish Tour of Turkey Stage 2 Victory - credit Stuart Franklin Getty Images
2021 Mark Cavendish Tour of Turkey Stage 2 Victory – credit Stuart Franklin Getty Images (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Cast your minds back to April, before the disbelief and emotion of the Tour de France, when, at the Tour of Turkey, Mark Cavendish won his first bike race for more than three years, then he won again the next day, and the day after that, and once more four days after that…it was a sign of things to come at the Tour, but also his team Deceuninck-Quick-Step’s 800th win — a milestone befitting one of the sport’s most decorated names.

“It was an unforgettable week for us and it goes without saying that I was extremely proud to have racked up the team’s 800th victory,” Cav reflected on the success which kickstarted one of the most significant seasons of his career. “Just when you think about this, it’s mind-blowing. This team is always there, fighting for the win in every race, and this achievement says a lot about the mentality and ambition of being among the best teams in the world. That’s another reason why being part of this family is an honour for me.

“But to be completely sincere, the most important thing about that day wasn’t my stage victory and the milestone we reached together, but the fact Fabio made it so far into the stage. It was his first race with the squad since Poland and having him there, doing a phenomenal job, working hard and enjoying racing was just beautiful and emotional at the same time. That motivated me to finish it off.”

Cavendish is back home in Essex recovering from a crash at the Ghent Six Day which left the Manx Missile in hospital with broken ribs and a punctured lung. Over the weekend he revealed the impact had ripped a hole behind his heart.

29 November 2021, 09:06

Taking n+1 to the nth degree (two n's for the price of one)

Built myself something silly with my original mark 1 explorer frame. pic.twitter.com/KytdqoymLU

— NorthRoadCycles 💙 (@NorthRoadCycles) November 28, 2021

29 November 2021, 09:06

Wine, beards and cycling...a hipster's paradise

 
 
 
 
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Not quite as intimidating as a gangster’s paradise…

29 November 2021, 09:06

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  1. AlsoSomniloquism
    November 29, 2021 at 9:17 am
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    Mercedes. Nuff said. 

    Mercedes. Nuff said. 

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    • IanGlasgow
      November 29, 2021 at 10:25 am
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      AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

      Mercedes. Nuff said. 

      — AlsoSomniloquism

      “The answers were unambiguous: self-centred men who are argumentative, stubborn, disagreeable and unempathetic are much more likely to own a high-status car such as an Audi, BMW or Mercedes.”
      https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/good-society/fast-and-furious-research-shows-owners-high-status-cars-are-collision-course-traffic

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      • chrisonabike
        November 29, 2021 at 11:06 am
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        Pushy ambitious people

        Pushy ambitious people (mostly men) who don’t care that much about others like to advertise themselves as high status with showy toys shocker!

        Probably a bit arbitrary which brands become “must have” but once they do that itself becomes the reason to get them.

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      • Surreyrider
        November 29, 2021 at 4:44 pm
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        I’m guessing you mean own as

        I’m guessing you mean own as in lease because they’re unlikely to be able to buy the car – it being very expensive and they not actually earning that much. 

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  2. Captain Badger
    November 29, 2021 at 9:22 am
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    Facking psycho. No mere

    Facking psycho. No mere mistake – admitted to an intentional manoeuvre. Should have licence revoked

     

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  3. S13SFC
    November 29, 2021 at 9:28 am
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    I’m no polite, well mannered

    I’m no polite, well mannered shrinking violet. I’d have dropped the twat.

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  4. AlsoSomniloquism
    November 29, 2021 at 9:39 am
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    Youtube video description has

    Youtube video description has this even though the driver multiple times shows his “understanding” of road rules. 

    “This was reported to the Met, and it went to court. The case was dismissed (no reason given to me).”

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    • Captain Badger
      November 29, 2021 at 10:15 am
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      AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

      Youtube video description has this even though the driver multiple times shows his “understanding” of road rules. 

      “This was reported to the Met, and it went to court. The case was dismissed (no reason given to me).”

      — AlsoSomniloquism

      The poster thought the defence might have argued that the number plate was insufficiently clear.

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      • Rendel Harris
        November 29, 2021 at 10:13 am
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        Captain Badger wrote:

         

        The poster speculated that they thought the defence might have argued that the number plate was insufficiently clear.— Captain Badger

        It isn’t clear but there’s a pretty clear shot of the guy’s face (around 1.42) so hard to see how he could have pulled the “wasn’t me” defence. I’d guess they went for “my client was making a safe overtake when the cyclist hit his car so he pulled in to stop the cyclist and see if damage had occurred.” Utter rubbish of course but I’ve seen magistrates swallow bigger lies.

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  5. brooksby
    November 29, 2021 at 9:51 am
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    https://www.theguardian.com

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/nov/29/queensland-woman-who-ran-down-and-killed-cyclist-in-sheer-rage-jailed-for-10-years

    Sorry, I’ve tried to edit this down to the TL;DR version.

    An unlicensed driver who escaped justice for years after she deliberately ran down a cyclist, leaving him to die beside a rural Queensland highway, has been sentenced to a decade behind bars.

    Joanne Marie McAuley was incensed when cyclist Shui Ki Chan flipped her the finger on the Warrego Highway near Gatton about 7.30pm on 23 August 2012.

    Blinded by fury, she took two separate highway exits to hunt down the 25-year-old Hong Kong national as he rode home from his shift at a nearby restaurant.

    McAuley claimed she only intended to “scare” him but could not control the vehicle and smashed into Chan.

    The cyclist was thrown onto the grass verge with a fractured pelvis and succumbed to the “injuries or the elements” before his body was eventually discovered the next morning.
    …
    “Police were enlisted immediately, and right from the outset, the investigation was in my words ‘less fulsome’, or in the words of the coroner ‘inadequate’,” prosecutor Clayton Wallis said.

    In the 10 years since the fatality, McAuley boasted to multiple people – friends, family and associates – about the night she killed the cyclist.

    Each version was “tailored to her audience” and became more elaborate as time wore on. 
    …
    After weeks of legal negotiations, McAuley pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of manslaughter in the Brisbane supreme court on Monday.
    …
    McAuley collapsed and wailed “no” as she was sentenced to serve 10 years in jail and declared a serious and violent offender.

    She refused to leave the dock, reaching out to sobbing supporters in the gallery before being taken by prison officers from the court. The 49-year-old will be eligible for parole in July 2026.

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    • Captain Badger
      November 29, 2021 at 10:14 am
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      brooksby wrote:

      https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/nov/29/queensland-woman-who-ran-down-and-killed-cyclist-in-sheer-rage-jailed-for-10-years

      Sorry, I’ve tried to edit this down to the TL;DR version.

      ….

      — brooksby

      10 years…

      Each version was “tailored to her audience” and became more elaborate as time wore on. She claimed to have run down Chan because he was Asian and had reversed over his body “more than once”.

      — Guardian

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    • chrisonabike
      November 29, 2021 at 10:42 am
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      Quote:

      “Police were enlisted immediately, and right from the outset, the investigation was in my words ‘less fulsome’, or in the words of the coroner ‘inadequate’,” prosecutor Clayton Wallis said.

      Sadly familiar. The only difference here is that this has actually been pursued after the fact, but:

      McAuley boasted to multiple people – friends, family and associates – about the night she killed the cyclist

      It took the driver incriminating themselves a lot for anything to happen. And the manner of this offense and the aftermath safely put this into “it’s actually murder / manslaughter” territory rather than “first time before the court” / “blameless” / “a lifetime careful driver” / “suffering nightmares following this terrible accident”.

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      • brooksby
        November 29, 2021 at 10:55 am
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        chrisonatrike wrote:

        It took the driver incriminating themselves a lot for anything to happen. And the manner of this offense and the aftermath safely put this into “it’s actually murder / manslaughter” territory rather than “first time before the court” / “blameless” / “a lifetime careful driver” / “suffering nightmares following this terrible accident”.

        — chrisonatrike

        TBH it was this that I found so horrendous.  For ten f-ing years she told people about ‘the night I ran down a cyclist’ – so, did her friends and relations just think she was a nutter, making the whole thing up, or did they sympathise with her?

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        • chrisonabike
          November 29, 2021 at 11:03 am
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          brooksby wrote:

          TBH it was this that I found so horrendous.  For ten f-ing years she told people about ‘the night I ran down a cyclist’ – so, did her friends and relations just think she was a nutter, making the whole thing up, or did they sympathise with her?

          — brooksby

          An unpalatable blend of all three likely with the emphasis on the last two.

          “What’s smug and deserves to be decapitated?”

          “I offended many with my Christmas attack on cyclists. It was meant humorously but so many cyclists have taken it seriously that I plainly misjudged.” wrote Matthew Parris.

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          • eburtthebike
            November 30, 2021 at 9:02 am
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            chrisonatrike wrote:

            An unpalatable blend of all three likely with the emphasis on the last two.

            “What’s smug and deserves to be decapitated?”

            “I offended many with my Christmas attack on cyclists. It was meant humorously but so many cyclists have taken it seriously that I plainly misjudged.” wrote Matthew Parris.

            — chrisonatrike

            Still, as far as I know, the most complained about Times article; deservedly so, and made even worse by his “I’m sorry you don’t have a sense of humour” non-apology.

  6. wycombewheeler
    November 29, 2021 at 10:14 am
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    I’d hit to be a delivery

    I’d hate to be a delivery driver if people react like this to peope knocking on their doors.

    Or is it just car doors that are super sensitive?

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    • HLaB
      November 29, 2021 at 11:50 am
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      Only a sample of one and very
      Only a sample of one and very dated but my experience would suggest that it’s only car driver door which are super sensitive. I was overtaken years ago by a HGV driver at a city bend with railings when he started to cut into my lane. It’s the only door I’ve hit but his reaction was a lot better IIRC than the standard car driver ?

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      • wycombewheeler
        November 29, 2021 at 12:46 pm
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        better in terms of

        better in terms of entertainment? 

        or reasonable response and restraint (appreciation for the warning rather than offence that you have interefered with something as precious as his genitals)

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    • brooksby
      November 29, 2021 at 2:13 pm
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      “You spilled your blood all

      “You spilled your blood all over my car’s paintwork, damn you!!”

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  7. Mungecrundle
    November 29, 2021 at 10:17 am
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    Mercedes Man – The old “It’s

    Mercedes Man – The old “It’s your own fault, you forced me to overtake when it was dangerous to do so” routine.

    I’m not sure if this is some sort of Vulcan mind link thing that cyclists use to force bad driving or some sort of remote control over vehicle steering and speed functions.

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  8. Hirsute
    November 29, 2021 at 10:27 am
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    The psychic cyclist – the

    The psychic cyclist – the driver knew what he was about to do so the cyclist must have known this too.

    Had a few of those where the driver fails to give way coming out of a side road but is was all ok becasue they knew I was there. The best excuse was ‘I’ve been driving for 19 years’.

    Share the space as long as you don’t get in my way or hold me up.

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    • Steve K
      November 29, 2021 at 2:19 pm
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      hirsute wrote:

      Had a few of those where the driver fails to give way coming out of a side road but is was all ok becasue they knew I was there. The best excuse was ‘I’ve been driving for 19 years’.

      — hirsute

      Ah, the old Jasper Carrott insurance form quotes: “I’d been driving for 20 years when I fell asleep at the wheel”.

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  9. Alessandro
    November 29, 2021 at 10:28 am
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    What an asshole. In a rush

    What an asshole. In a rush but had 5mins to argue why he had to almost knock the guy off his bike and it also looks as though he’s not bothered about other aspects of the law as well. 

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    • ratherbeintobago
      November 29, 2021 at 10:48 am
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      No insurance either on askMID

      No insurance either on askMID.

      I don’t know why there isn’t a national portal to quickly report these things.

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      • Rendel Harris
        November 29, 2021 at 10:58 am
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        Not defending the driver, who

        Not defending the driver, who is clearly an asshole as noted, but the timestamp on the video is February 21 2020, so the vehicle may have been sold on or (quite possibly given his driving) totalled since then.

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      • capedcrusader
        November 29, 2021 at 11:03 am
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        A bit of a pattern emerging

        A bit of a pattern – no MOT, no Insurance, no road tax – emerging over the past few months, leads me to believe the quickest and most effective way of ending disputes is to offer to make a call to the ‘Feds’ – as I am reliably informed by junior, is the collequial term for PC Plod these days in the hood – which should deescalate matters rather rapidly.

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      • bikeman01
        November 29, 2021 at 1:54 pm
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        ratherbeintobago wrote:

        No insurance either on askMID.

        I don’t know why there isn’t a national portal to quickly report these things.

        — ratherbeintobago

         

        Did you think to check before posting this comment?

        https://www.gov.uk/report-untaxed-vehicle

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    • wycombewheeler
      November 29, 2021 at 10:56 am
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      Alessandro wrote:

      What an asshole. In a rush but had 5mins to argue why he had to almost knock the guy off his bike and it also looks as though he’s not bothered about other aspects of the law as well. 

      — Alessandro

      Video dated February 2021, so unless you now the same person still owns the car and still drives it…….

      As the driver clearly drives like a knob, the car might well have been written off by now.

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      • Rendel Harris
        November 29, 2021 at 11:21 am
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        It’s actually February 21,

        It’s actually February 21, 2020, so a distinct possibility.

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        • wycombewheeler
          November 29, 2021 at 12:43 pm
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          crap I only looked at the

          crap I only looked at the month and day, and assumed the year. obviously the wheels of justice turn slower than I thought.

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          • iandusud
            November 29, 2021 at 5:22 pm
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            wycombewheeler wrote:

            crap I only looked at the month and day, and assumed the year. obviously the wheels of justice turn slower than I thought.

            — wycombewheeler

            The wheels of justice? Surely you mean the wheels of injustice.

    • hawkinspeter
      November 29, 2021 at 11:16 am
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      Alessandro wrote:

      What an asshole. In a rush but had 5mins to argue why he had to almost knock the guy off his bike and it also looks as though he’s not bothered about other aspects of the law as well. 

      — Alessandro

      Has anyone reported his vehicle yet for being untaxed and without MOT (by 4 days)?

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      • wycombewheeler
        November 29, 2021 at 12:44 pm
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        hawkinspeter wrote:

        What an asshole. In a rush but had 5mins to argue why he had to almost knock the guy off his bike and it also looks as though he’s not bothered about other aspects of the law as well. 

        — hawkinspeter

        Has anyone reported his vehicle yet for being untaxed and without MOT (by 4 days)?

        — Alessandro

        they better be sure it is still on the road before making that complaint.

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    • HoarseMann
      November 29, 2021 at 5:28 pm
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      All that and 50 yards up the

      All that and 50 yards up the road he turns into the petrol station.

      Most petrol stations have ANPR and they cross-reference your numberplate against a database of known fuel thieves before the pump will dispense fuel.

      It wouldn’t take much for them to check MOT, Tax and insurance status too. Not being able to buy fuel might be a good way of enforcing compliance.

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  10. AidanR
    November 29, 2021 at 10:48 am
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    I’m waiting for Nige to turn

    I’m waiting for Nige to turn up and tell us why the cyclist is in the wrong.

    Edit: damn, animated gifs don’t work

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  11. StuInNorway
    November 29, 2021 at 11:01 am
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    “I was past you when you hit

    “I was past you when you hit my (rear door side) window” ?????

    How long were the cyclists arms ? Mr Tickle on a bike ?

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    • wycombewheeler
      November 29, 2021 at 12:42 pm
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      StuInNorway wrote:

      “I was past you when you hit my (rear door side) window” ?????

      How long were the cyclists arms ? Mr Tickle on a bike ?

      — StuInNorway

      in the mind of the driver, once the bonnet is ahead they are past, and it is down to the cyclist to get out of the way

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        November 29, 2021 at 2:35 pm
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        Also in the mind of at least

        Also in the mind of at least two posters on here. Hence their insistance that vehicles have fully overtaken cyclists when they are still level. 

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  12. chrisonabike
    November 29, 2021 at 11:13 am
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    Quote:

    @TamesideCouncil – there’s a pavement and a cycle path under here. Right outside Guide Bridge station. What’s your suggestion for walking /cycling to/from the station?

    Drive.

    I do like the comment about keeping cars out of the bike lane, like snowploughs. Maybe call the council and say you’re unable to park / elderly relative can’t reach your car / cannot deliver a takeaway or box set. Might get some action.

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  13. BigE
    November 29, 2021 at 11:54 am
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    Surely if driver gives 1.5m

    Surely if driver gives 1.5m as in Highway Code cyclist would not be able to touch the car! 
     

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    • Captain Badger
      November 29, 2021 at 11:59 am
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      BigE wrote:

      Surely if driver gives 1.5m as in Highway Code cyclist would not be able to touch the car! 
       

      — BigE

      You are correct in practical terns re 1.5 m, except that it isn’t mentioned in the highway code. However most of the rules between 162 – 169 would scream that this was an illegal and dangerous over take, and should have been sanctioned.

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      • Sriracha
        November 29, 2021 at 12:59 pm
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        Captain Badger wrote:

        this was an illegal and dangerous over take, and should have been sanctioned.

        — Captain Badger

        Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

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        • chrisonabike
          November 29, 2021 at 1:03 pm
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          Sriracha wrote:

          this was an illegal and dangerous over take, and should have been sanctioned.

          — Sriracha

          Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

          — Captain Badger

          You mean is “illegal” like “inflammable” / “flammable” in that it often apparently means the same as “legal”?

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        • hawkinspeter
          November 29, 2021 at 1:10 pm
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          Sriracha wrote:

          this was an illegal and dangerous over take, and should have been sanctioned.

          — Sriracha

          Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

          — Captain Badger

          Contronyms.

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        • Captain Badger
          November 29, 2021 at 1:11 pm
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          Sriracha wrote:

          this was an illegal and dangerous over take, and should have been sanctioned.

          — Sriracha

          Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

          — Captain Badger

          Aaaaarrgghgh it’s already been a long week…

          sanctioned? if so yes, I hesitated before using it

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          • Sriracha
            November 29, 2021 at 4:59 pm
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            Captain Badger wrote:

            this was an illegal and dangerous over take, and should have been sanctioned.

            — Captain Badger

            Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

            — Sriracha

            Aaaaarrgghgh it’s already been a long week…

            sanctioned? if so yes, I hesitated before using it— Captain Badger
            Indeed sanctioned. But nowt wrong with it. It’s just that it could end up conveying either of two opposed meanings.

            I’m told that the editor of one august journal was in the habit of replying to the legions of hopefuls that he would “waste no time in reading their paper”. Clearly such behaviour should be sanctioned.

          • chrisonabike
            November 29, 2021 at 5:34 pm
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            Sriracha wrote:

            Indeed sanctioned. But nowt wrong with it. It’s just that it could end up conveying either of two opposed meanings. I’m told that the editor of one august journal was in the habit of replying to the legions of hopefuls that he would “waste no time in reading their paper”. Clearly such behaviour should be sanctioned.

            — Sriracha

            You may say it was a truly remarkable overtake. But the driver’s word is worth its weight in gold…

        • eburtthebike
          November 30, 2021 at 9:06 am
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          Sriracha wrote:

          this was an illegal and dangerous over take, and should have been sanctioned.

          — Sriracha

          Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

          — Captain Badger

          Oxymoron is useful.

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          • hawkinspeter
            November 30, 2021 at 10:29 am
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            eburtthebike wrote:

            Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

            — eburtthebike

            Oxymoron is useful.

            — Sriracha

            Oxymoron is for phrases such as “progressive conservatives” or “careful close pass”.

            Contronyms are words that have multiple, contradictory meanings such as “fast” or “dust”.

          • eburtthebike
            November 30, 2021 at 2:48 pm
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            hawkinspeter wrote:

            Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

            — hawkinspeter

            Oxymoron is useful.

            — eburtthebike

            Oxymoron is for phrases such as “progressive conservatives” or “careful close pass”.

            Contronyms are words that have multiple, contradictory meanings such as “fast” or “dust”.

            — Sriracha

            Oxymoron applies to both words and phrases.

          • hawkinspeter
            November 30, 2021 at 3:01 pm
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            eburtthebike wrote:

            Oxymoron is for phrases such as “progressive conservatives” or “careful close pass”.

            Contronyms are words that have multiple, contradictory meanings such as “fast” or “dust”.

            — eburtthebike

            Oxymoron applies to both words and phrases.

            — hawkinspeter

            Fun fact, oxymoron is autological in that the word itself is an oxymoron.

            Nerdy fact, J. R. R. Tolkien interpreted his own surname as derived from the Low German equivalent of dull-keen (High German toll-kühn) which would be a literal equivalent of Greek oxy-moron.

            However, “fast” and “dust” are contronyms and not oxymorons.

          • mdavidford
            November 30, 2021 at 3:27 pm
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            But is ‘autological’

            But is ‘autological’ autological?

          • hawkinspeter
            November 30, 2021 at 3:33 pm
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            mdavidford wrote:

            But is ‘autological’ autological?

            — mdavidford

            Yes and no, but more importantly, is “heterological” heterological?

            (Heterological being the opposite, words that don’t describe themselves such as “long”, or “hyphenated”)

          • mdavidford
            November 30, 2021 at 3:44 pm
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            Or ‘unrepeatable’.

            Or ‘unrepeatable’.

          • mdavidford
            November 30, 2021 at 3:45 pm
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            Or ‘unrepeatable’.

            Or ‘unrepeatable’.

          • hawkinspeter
            November 30, 2021 at 4:06 pm
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            For bonus points, try to find

            For bonus points, try to find a pair of co-autological words where one describes the other such as “autological” and “pentasyllabic”.

          • mdavidford
            November 30, 2021 at 4:14 pm
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            Well, following your lead,

            Well, following your lead, ‘long’ and ‘monosyllabic’ would work quite nicely.

            What do I win?

          • hawkinspeter
            November 30, 2021 at 4:26 pm
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            mdavidford wrote:

            Well, following your lead, ‘long’ and ‘monosyllabic’ would work quite nicely.

            What do I win?

            — mdavidford

            Good job!

            You win a picture of a squirrel with a dictionary! (Save it and squirrel it away somewhere)

            https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/an-educated-squirrel-peggy-collins.jpg

            (I’m not sure that co-autological is a real thing, so I don’t know if both words have to describe both words in which case your example wouldn’t work)

          • mdavidford
            November 30, 2021 at 4:44 pm
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            Cool – I’ll file it between

            Cool – I’ll file it between my squid and my squirtles.

    • wycombewheeler
      November 29, 2021 at 12:55 pm
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      BigE wrote:

      Surely if driver gives 1.5m as in Highway Code cyclist would not be able to touch the car! 
       

      — BigE

      Judging by how sleeves are often too long for me, I realise my arms are shorter than average. But I have measured them at 0.6mm 0.6m, I don’t think other people have arms twice as long as me.

      Maybe if the cyclist was an orang utan they might reach at 1.5m

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      • mdavidford
        November 29, 2021 at 12:48 pm
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        wycombewheeler wrote:

        I realise my arms are shorter than average. But I have measured them at 0.6mm

        — wycombewheeler

        What calipers are you using?

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        • wycombewheeler
          November 29, 2021 at 12:54 pm
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          crap, I should have left it

          crap, I should have left it as 600mm instead of deciding to change to 0.6m

           

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      • hawkinspeter
        November 29, 2021 at 12:50 pm
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        wycombewheeler wrote:

        Judging by how sleeves are often too long for me, I realise my arms are shorter than average. But I have measured them at 0.6mm, I don’t think other people have arms twice as long as me.

        Maybe if the cyclist was an orang utan they might reach at 1.5m

        — wycombewheeler

        Not meaning to body-shame, but those are very short arms.

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        • wycombewheeler
          November 29, 2021 at 12:55 pm
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          hawkinspeter wrote:

          Judging by how sleeves are often too long for me, I realise my arms are shorter than average. But I have measured them at 0.6mm, I don’t think other people have arms twice as long as me.

          Maybe if the cyclist was an orang utan they might reach at 1.5m

          — hawkinspeter

          Not meaning to body-shame, but those are very short arms.

          — wycombewheeler

          even for a squirrel

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          • hawkinspeter
            November 29, 2021 at 1:00 pm
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            wycombewheeler wrote:

            Not meaning to body-shame, but those are very short arms.

            — wycombewheeler

            even for a squirrel

            — hawkinspeter

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abcOw2lHorI

  14. Owd Big 'Ead
    November 29, 2021 at 12:21 pm
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    Prick would have been picking
    Prick would have been picking his teeth up off the floor if he’d tried that on me.
    Utter arsehole. A good shoeing might actually make him learn something.

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    • hawkinspeter
      November 29, 2021 at 12:31 pm
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      Owd Big ‘Ead wrote:

      Prick would have been picking his teeth up off the floor if he’d tried that on me. Utter arsehole. A good shoeing might actually make him learn something.

      — Owd Big 'Ead

      Did you not see the empathy memo that went round?

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      • Owd Big 'Ead
        November 29, 2021 at 1:07 pm
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        Sod the memo.

        Sod the memo.

        TfL once again show that they have no idea what it’s like being a cyclist around motorists hell-bent on MGIF.

        They are very much part of the problem, not the solution.

        He needs a slap for the constant use of ‘bro’. That alone would be enough to tip me over the edge 

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    • IanMK
      November 29, 2021 at 1:13 pm
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      I’m glad he kept his cool.

      I’m glad he kept his cool. The exchange shows how ill-informed the driver is. Perhaps if TfL see it they’ll understand that road safety is better served by education of the the rules rather than showing empathy for ignorant and dangerous dicks.

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      • chrisonabike
        November 29, 2021 at 1:23 pm
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        IanMK wrote:

        I’m glad he kept his cool. The exchange shows how ill-informed the driver is. Perhaps if TfL see it they’ll understand that road safety is better served by education of the the rules rather than showing empathy for ignorant and dangerous dicks.

        — IanMK

        Sounds like the empathy is strong in this one. Indeed Owd Big ‘Ead is practically channelling the driver…

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    • brooksby
      November 29, 2021 at 3:37 pm
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      Owd Big ‘Ead wrote:

      Prick would have been picking his teeth up off the floor if he’d tried that on me. Utter arsehole. A good shoeing might actually make him learn something.

      — Owd Big 'Ead

      “And if that Jean-Claude van Damme came ’round ‘ere, with his mayonnaise all over his chips and showing off his well-oiled biceps, then I’d be ‘Oi!  van Damme!  Do not come here with your adulterated chips, instead of salt and vinegar like God intended, and go give yourself a proper wash’.  Grrrr…”

      😉

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    • Rendel Harris
      November 29, 2021 at 3:42 pm
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      Owd Big ‘Ead wrote:

      Prick would have been picking his teeth up off the floor if he’d tried that on me. Utter arsehole. A good shoeing might actually make him learn something.

      — Owd Big 'Ead

      Right, and what then happens when they pull a knife or a gun? Or if you achieve your aim and end up facing court yourself? The rider handled this exactly right I thought, didn’t back down, made his points forcefully and clearly but didn’t give the idiot the excuse to escalate that he quite clearly would have been happy to have.

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      • Owd Big 'Ead
        November 29, 2021 at 4:39 pm
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        Horses for courses Rendel.

        Horses for courses Rendel.

        Have you ever had anyone pull a knife, or gun on you while cycling? No, thought not.

        We all deal with these situations in different ways and fair play to the cyclist for keeping his shit together.

        Unfortunately for me, I’m not that cool headed, I’m far more likely to deal with the situation first, then worry about the consequences after.

        I’ve tried the ‘be nice’ routine before and got nowhere. For me, going nuclear from the get go seems to get the message across in a way they won’t forget anytime soon.

         

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        • Rendel Harris
          November 29, 2021 at 6:38 pm
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          Owd Big ‘Ead wrote:

          Horses for courses Rendel.

          Have you ever had anyone pull a knife, or gun on you while cycling? No, thought not.

          We all deal with these situations in different ways and fair play to the cyclist for keeping his shit together.

          Unfortunately for me, I’m not that cool headed, I’m far more likely to deal with the situation first, then worry about the consequences after.

          I’ve tried the ‘be nice’ routine before and got nowhere. For me, going nuclear from the get go seems to get the message across in a way they won’t forget anytime soon.

           

          — Owd Big 'Ead

          I’ve had someone threaten me with a knife from the passenger seat, yes, fortunately we were both moving and I shot off down a sidestreet sharpish, and I was mugged at knifepoint whilst cycling once (in Bath, of all places!). An atrocious number of people do carry knives, particularly young people, is it worth taking a gamble on whether they have one or not? Equally, is it worth risking a prison sentence (possibly a huge one, more than one person has gone down for manslaughter after a single punch) by “going nuclear” on someone? 

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        • Captain Badger
          November 29, 2021 at 9:27 pm
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          Owd Big 'Ead wrote:

          ….

          Have you ever had anyone pull a knife, or gun on you while cycling? >

          — Owd Big 'Ead

          If they did, I’d give them a SLAP. Oi knife wielding thug! NO!…. etc etc….

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  15. bikeman01
    November 29, 2021 at 1:56 pm
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    It’s such a shame that thanks

    It’s such a shame that thanks to easy finance anyone can now drive a Mercedes. I remember when driving a Merc meant something.

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    • Captain Badger
      November 29, 2021 at 2:06 pm
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      bikeman01 wrote:

      It’s such a shame that thanks to easy finance anyone can now drive a Mercedes. I remember when driving a Merc meant something.

      — bikeman01

      Ooooh it still does……

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      • IanGlasgow
        November 29, 2021 at 3:50 pm
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        Captain Badger wrote:

        It’s such a shame that thanks to easy finance anyone can now drive a Mercedes. I remember when driving a Merc meant something.

        — Captain Badger

        Ooooh it still does……

        — bikeman01

        It definitely means SOMETHING…

        “The answers were unambiguous: self-centred men who are argumentative, stubborn, disagreeable and unempathetic are much more likely to own a high-status car such as an Audi, BMW or Mercedes.”

        https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/good-society/fast-and-furious-research-shows-owners-high-status-cars-are-collision-course-traffic

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        • Cycologist
          November 29, 2021 at 8:40 pm
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          The argument is probabmatic.
          The argument is probabmatic. If I get time later, I’ll put a counter argument forward.

          Also, is the vehical in the vid particularly ‘high status’?

          There’s plenty of BMWs, Mecrs and Audi’s out there that I wouldn’t considered high status, not even close, many are just aging ****, with chipped and poorly modded engines.

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        • Cycologist
          December 1, 2021 at 2:11 am
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          Appalling driving in the vid,
          Appalling driving in the vid, and the drivers interpretation and evaluation of the highway code is very odd. It’s almost like he’s never read it?

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  16. AlsoSomniloquism
    November 29, 2021 at 2:47 pm
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    Re Owain Doull: He could have

    Re Owain Doull: He could have probably got away with it by adding GMT to the tattoo. 

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    • Rendel Harris
      November 29, 2021 at 8:37 pm
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      AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

      Re Owain Doull: He could have probably got away with it by adding GMT to the tattoo. 

      — AlsoSomniloquism

      A pedant writes: he won his team pursuit gold around 7PM Rio time; Rio is (somewhat surprisingly) only three hours behind GMT, so he still took the medal on August 12th English time. I really, really must get out more.

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      • wycombewheeler
        November 30, 2021 at 9:26 am
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        Rendel Harris wrote:

        Re Owain Doull: He could have probably got away with it by adding GMT to the tattoo. 

        — Rendel Harris

        A pedant writes: he won his team pursuit gold around 7PM Rio time; Rio is (somewhat surprisingly) only three hours behind GMT, so he still took the medal on August 12th English time. I really, really must get out more.

        — AlsoSomniloquism

        3 hours behind now? or 3 hours behind in August when UK clocks will have gone forward and Brazil’s might have gone backwards.

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        • Rendel Harris
          November 30, 2021 at 9:37 am
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          Brazil doesn’t observe

          Brazil doesn’t observe daylight saving time now but it did in 2016, putting the clocks an hour forward in February and an hour back in November, so in August would have still been three hours behind UK time.

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          • AlsoSomniloquism
            November 30, 2021 at 9:39 am
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            Is that an African or a

            Is that an African or a European Swallow?

          • Rendel Harris
            November 30, 2021 at 10:17 am
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            It’s perfectly simple. If you

            It’s perfectly simple. If you’re not getting your hair cut, you don’t have to move your brother’s clothes down to the lower peg. You simply collect his note before lunch, after you’ve done your scripture prep, when you’ve written your letter home, before rest, move your own clothes onto the lower peg, greet the visitors, and report to Mr. Viney that you’ve had your chit signed.

          • wycombewheeler
            November 30, 2021 at 10:54 am
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            Rendel Harris wrote:

            Brazil doesn’t observe daylight saving time now but it did in 2016, putting the clocks an hour forward in February and an hour back in November, so in August would have still been three hours behind UK time.

            — Rendel Harris

            no, as they are in the southern hemisphere they would have put their clocks back in February and forward in November.

            So, as with Austrailia the time difference from the UK varied by 2 hours summer to winter.

            However, the last change was at the end of their summer putting their clocks back, so they are currently on the same time they would have been during the Olympics. (UTC-3) But the UK would have been at UTC+1 in our summer (when the Olympics happened). So during the Olympics the time difference would have been 4 hours.

            Still leaving the event on the 12th of August.

          • mdavidford
            November 30, 2021 at 11:04 am
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            wycombewheeler wrote:

            Still leaving the event on the 12th of August.

            — wycombewheeler

            He could still have just added ‘UTC+3’ to the tattoo…

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mattw 55 minutes ago

The cyclist here needs to look into Section 142 of the Magistrates' Court Act 1980, firstly because there was no offence, and secondly because it appears that the police mislead the Court. "A magistrates’ court may vary or rescind a sentence or other order imposed or made by it when dealing with an offender if it appears to the court to be in the interests of justice to do so;] and it is hereby declared that this power extends to replacing a sentence or order which for any reason appears to be invalid by another which the court has power to impose or make." https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1980/43/section/142

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mattw 1 hour ago

I wonder how well advised the cyclist was in Court? And in this case would cycling legal insurance cover the cost of a specialist solicitor?

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mattw 1 hour ago

@quiff I would expect the police had not been trained with the change, perhaps.

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Rendel Harris 2 hours ago

@courteousdriver The Highway Code does not differentiate between cars and bikes in this instance, it says that when overtaking parked cars you must give way to oncoming traffic. It's not for you to decide whether or not they have sufficient space in your opinion, you should not drive in the oncoming traffic lane if there is any oncoming traffic, full stop. Not a difficult rule to understand and one that one would have thought a self-named courteousdriver would have no trouble obeying.

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mattw 2 hours ago

@mctrials23 It seems to me that the car moved closer to the kerb on his side of the road, and the cyclist was able to proceed entirely within his own lane - both at very slow speed. So there is no ground for an offence. The concerning point is that the copper thinks that the same "gap" should apply to the different types of vehicle. That's peak carbrain.

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quiff 2 hours ago

Peripheral to your point, but parking facing oncoming traffic is advised against at all times, but only an offence at night, I think?

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Rendel Harris 3 hours ago

@mac f 1896 If you look closely at the video you will see that the cyclist remains entirely in his own lane on his side of the white lines as he passes the oncoming vehicle, which also stays entirely within its lane. There is therefore no need for either road user to give way to the other and as they are both travelling at low speeds there is no danger to themselves or to any other road users. I would love to see a transcript of the magistrates' court proceedings as prima facie there is no justification in law for the guilty finding or for the penalty imposed.

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chrisonabike 3 hours ago

@perce pedantry but I think Séamus Ennis would be scunnered with that ... had he not been Irish... (Uilleann pipes are bagpipes of course, though personally I'd much rather those - or small pipes - than the GHB)

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HoarseMann 3 hours ago

@quiff I think you are probably right here - but - is that _really_ being inconsiderate to the oncoming driver? Looking again at the video, the oncoming driver appears to be over the centre line when approaching the parked vehicle and just seems to be straightening the bend a little, so you would expect them to be moving towards the kerb anyway. As driving interactions go, it's about as benign as it gets. I expect the magistrate has never ridden a bicycle, but I also wonder if they've ever driven a car?!

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