Impatient driver hits cyclist after rushing overtake…but it’s not his fault (apparently); Doull’s ink-redible tattoo mishap; What’s Cav scared of?; You shall not pass!; Alaphilippe’s sweaty pain cave; Cyclocross VAR; Cool new app + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Impatient driver hits cyclist after rushing overtake...but it's not his fault (apparently)
Perhaps if everybody had just seen their side, as recommended by TfL, this driver hitting a cyclist wouldn’t have caused a roadside debate. Interestingly the driver’s main concern seemed to be the rider touching his property…”Bro, that’s my property…”…”Yeah, this is my life…” pretty much sums up the road safety stakes…
With a bit more explaining…”What I’m saying to you there is a car on the other side of the road, you’re not on the edge…” the motorist tried to make the case for that pesky bike rider getting out of his more important Mercedes’ way.
> Transport for London slammed for “victim-blaming” road safety ad (+ video)
And here we are…”So what, I have to drive slowly for you?” Ermmm yeah, pretty much. “Bro, you’re lucky I’m controlling myself, I should be kicking your bike right now.” How very considerate…
Mercedes man continued to show a surprising amount of disgust about someone hitting his car considering said car had just been driven into another road user…perhaps in true ‘See their side’ spirit, the pair exchanged apologies and got on with their journeys…oh wait, no, here we go again…
Mercedes man: “It would be a beautiful world if everyone took consideration, but just protect yourself first…”
The cyclist explained in the description of the video on YouTube that the incident was reported to Met Police and went to court, but was dismissed.
A world champion's pain cave...Julian Alaphilippe shows off his sparkly winter set-up
A seasoned indoor trainer user, editor Jack’s first reaction to Julian Alaphilippe’s pain cave was to wonder if the world champ sweats? No towel or fan seems like a fast track to puddles and salty bar tape. In fairness, we’ve heard being unable to sweat is a pretty serious medical condition often accompanied by memorable trips to Pizza Express in Woking.
Also, if we’re going to be really picky, has a world champion on the road earned the right to a rainbow band trainer? I know, I know, nobody wants another do you have to earn the rainbow bands argument…but if the answer’s ‘you have to earn it’ then should the rainbow trainer be reserved solely for virtual world champs? Yes, I’m aware the actual correct answer to this paragraph is ‘who gives a *insert expletive*?’…
This time last year, during lockdown, we had readers from around the world send in their pain cave pictures, and boy did you lot deliver…if you need some home trainer inspiration check out our 16 of the best lockdown pain caves and turbo training set ups feature.
You shall not pass! A Monday blocked bike lane bonanza
We’ve enough blocked bike lane content to last the rest of the week…from fallen trees to a badly parked Vauxhall (and some help from Mother Nature). First up, in Manchester, where the snow has been making some wonder if the council could not give cycle lanes the same treatment as the roads…
@TamesideCouncil there’s a pavement and a cycle path under here. Right outside Guide Bridge station. What’s your suggestion for walking /cycling to/from the station? pic.twitter.com/DFpgfimZ75
— Dábhidh Beannaichd Tigainn (@Dbelldb1) November 29, 2021
And it’s not just here in the UK…
If only drivers stayed out of our bike lanes the way snowplows do. pic.twitter.com/ZV5FjSExjW
— Tom Flood (@tomflood1) November 28, 2021
The solution?
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow. pic.twitter.com/cDEb7Zae2n
— Iruñeko Critical Cycling (@irucriticycling) November 27, 2021
At least the snow gave an easy way of getting this message across…
.@badlyparkedbrum pic.twitter.com/HuNjrwyQN6
— Sophie Watson 🚲 (@swat_transport) November 28, 2021
Sophie said her hands were too cold to hang around for the ‘and pavement’ follow up. It even got a shout-out from Badly Parked Brum, an account dedicated to the art of badly parked vehicles in the Second City. You Park Like a C*** also gave it a retweet…we’re sure that account is pretty self-explanatory…
And how about this one?
⚠️ Warning. Do not park in cycle lanes. Bloody cyclists 😂😂 pic.twitter.com/Z1avkrKd0J
— Up the Wall! www.dogslifebooks.co.uk (@audrey2macs) November 27, 2021
Those guerilla cyclists must have been out chopping down trees again…
Cav's banana phobia
Learnings from new Mark Cavendish 📗
– He has phobia of 🍌
– He’s obsessed with Ancient Rome
– He hates riders telling press “We’ll see how it goes” (“Fuck off, you’re paid €5mill!”) but caught self doing it repeatedly at TdF
– He offered to strip for Peter Sagan on st6 of TdF— Daniel Friebe (@friebos) November 29, 2021
Wise idea to avoid banana peels if you want to stay upright…
Cyclocross VAR: Was there contact?
A reminder that #cyclocross is crazy. https://t.co/plDFOuu5kL
— up.bike (@updotbike) November 28, 2021
Let’s slow that one down and get Roy Keane and Jamie Carragher to go at eachother…
We need VAR for this one.pic.twitter.com/BH72LnOhOY
— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) November 29, 2021
Ultimately it didn’t matter as Eli Iserbyt held off Toon Aerts on the final lap to win the World Cup event in Besançon by ten seconds. But what do we reckon? Foul? Yellow card? He was the last man…it could be red.
CycleBump: How smooth is your route?
Some of the details here are a little sketchy considering our reliance on Google to translate Japanese but there now appears to be an app for measuring and viewing bumpiness of roads. Could we soon see Komoot and others giving you the smoothest possible ride option?
BumpRecorder was originally designed for use in cars, but has now also released the CycleBump, an app that measures road surface conditions. According to the app’s website it has already accumulated 3.4 million kilometers of road surface ratings, allowing users to check the unevenness of roads before heading out the door.
Winning Olympic gold is a day you'll never forget...or not...Owain fooled by wrong date tattoo
It’s a very popular trend these days — Olympic Games tattoos. A permanent reminder that you achieved the pinnacle of your sport. A memory, achievement and ink-based memento that will be there forever…
Poor Owain Doull made a bit of a mishap, however, when getting his date of glory inked on his arm…the mistake? Doull won gold on the 12th of August, not the 13th.
The Welsh cyclist, who is leaving Ineos Grenadiers for EF Education-Nippo this winter, told his soon-to-be ex-teammates Geraint Thomas and Luke Rowe all about the blunder on their Watts Occuring podcast…
“I was super happy with it and thought it looked sick. I put a photo of it on Instagram. And then there were comments that said ‘did you not win the Olympics on the 12th?’
“My tattoo said the 13th. I was like ‘this guy doesn’t know what he is talking about – delete that comment.’ Another guy comments ‘you sure that is right date’ and by the third guy I thought I should check this now and turns out I was wrong.”
Apparently the team pursuit gold medallist has since been back to get the error fixed. Changing a three back to a two sounds like it could be tricky though. Seven to nine, one to nine, three to eight — no problem, but three to two? We’ll reserve judgement until we’ve seen the before and after photos…
Who'll be getting one of these for Christmas?
Spotted in Waitrose 😂 pic.twitter.com/NMpbLfV3JC
— 🚴🏻♂️Ralpha (aka Phil)🚴🏻♂️ (@2wheelsnot4) November 28, 2021
Mr Tickle riding a bicycle...+ all the rest of the reaction to our main live blog story of the day
But listen, the driver and car were apparently PAST the cyclist when he knocked on the side window…
I guess it was Mr Tickle riding then— Stuart Baillie (@StuInNorway) November 29, 2021
Right, let’s kick off the afternoon with some reaction to our big story of the day…THAT video of a motorist colliding with a cyclist before making some questionable claims in the argument that followed…
Stuart Spencer said the Merc driver’s logic is the perfect example of “the sense of entitlement that has invaded so much of society today.”
On Facebook, Jackie Fraser said she had experienced something similar…”I once had a driver complete a high speed u turn into me, and then berate me about his paintwork.”
Seems a decent time to pull up this exchange between the driver and cyclist in the clip…”Bro, that’s my property…”…”Yeah, this is my life…”
Liam Pike commented: “He knows he is too close and just wants to have a pop at the cyclists. You don’t rush a overtake like that and spend six mins arguing about.”
Plenty of discussion under the live blog too…
BigE said: “Surely if driver gives 1.5m as in Highway Code cyclist would not be able to touch the car!”
Mungecrundle added: “Mercedes Man – The old ‘It’s your own fault, you forced me to overtake when it was dangerous to do so’ routine. I’m not sure if this is some sort of Vulcan mind link thing that cyclists use to force bad driving or some sort of remote control over vehicle steering and speed functions.”
And one final thought from wycombe wheeler, “I’d hate to be a delivery driver if people react like this to people knocking on their doors. Or is it just car doors that are super sensitive?”
Catnip 303s or DT Swhiskers? Feline like a new set of wheels...
Anyone else’s cat take an active interest in what wheelset you are buying? Ok, just mine then! 😂 pic.twitter.com/f1EdH4peGz
— PeerQ (@peerq) November 28, 2021
You’ve checked the road.cc wheelset guide, but don’t forget to consult your four-legged friend before grabbing yourself a Cyber Monday upgrade…
So you think you know how a bike works...
Pretty impressive this is the eighth highest trending video on YouTube at the moment with more than two million views in the last 24 hours…think you know how a bike works?
Cav proud to have Quick-Step's 800th win but takes more pleasure from Fabio Jakobsen's comeback
Cast your minds back to April, before the disbelief and emotion of the Tour de France, when, at the Tour of Turkey, Mark Cavendish won his first bike race for more than three years, then he won again the next day, and the day after that, and once more four days after that…it was a sign of things to come at the Tour, but also his team Deceuninck-Quick-Step’s 800th win — a milestone befitting one of the sport’s most decorated names.
“It was an unforgettable week for us and it goes without saying that I was extremely proud to have racked up the team’s 800th victory,” Cav reflected on the success which kickstarted one of the most significant seasons of his career. “Just when you think about this, it’s mind-blowing. This team is always there, fighting for the win in every race, and this achievement says a lot about the mentality and ambition of being among the best teams in the world. That’s another reason why being part of this family is an honour for me.
“But to be completely sincere, the most important thing about that day wasn’t my stage victory and the milestone we reached together, but the fact Fabio made it so far into the stage. It was his first race with the squad since Poland and having him there, doing a phenomenal job, working hard and enjoying racing was just beautiful and emotional at the same time. That motivated me to finish it off.”
Cavendish is back home in Essex recovering from a crash at the Ghent Six Day which left the Manx Missile in hospital with broken ribs and a punctured lung. Over the weekend he revealed the impact had ripped a hole behind his heart.
Taking n+1 to the nth degree (two n's for the price of one)
Built myself something silly with my original mark 1 explorer frame. pic.twitter.com/KytdqoymLU
— NorthRoadCycles 💙 (@NorthRoadCycles) November 28, 2021
Wine, beards and cycling...a hipster's paradise
Not quite as intimidating as a gangster’s paradise…
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@Miller Why? If I was going out KOM hunting I would 100% be taking it as easy as possible for much of the rest of the ride. My mate rides with his partner a fair bit and has some KOMs around where he is. He gets most of them when hes on a ride with her and his average power is often not much higher than this for the rides and hes 80kg.
@Paul J A core element of the last election cycle in Taiwan was that of the DPPs stance on Taiwanese national identity. The DPP (current ruling party) are the most supportive of an independent Taiwanese identity, contrary to that of their main opposition) the KMT, who strongly identify with the one-China under ROC stance (rather that Beijing's view of one China under PRC). DPP held power in 2024 but slipped from a majority to a minority lead arguably because they refused to make their independent Taiwan stance an official policy, most likely out of fear of antagonising and further inviting attacks (political and militarily) from Beijing. In summary, your assertion that the majority of Taiwanese people still identify as Chinese (ROC not PRC) may not be wrong, but it is not as definitive as you make it out to be.
as your said, you're mixing bikes, some riders want Chinese road bikes, fine . But, how many Chinese downhill bikes do you know?
So that's where Ursa ended up! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursa_the_Bear
@GMBasix sure, what's the point in having a confrontation in the street? Just submit the footage and move on.
@mdavidford ah, but did Rothko start off with contrast stripes? EDIT - ignore that, I've just reminded myself of some of his stuff...
@Rendel Harris "the government in Taipei very definitely does not consider Taiwan to be part of China" They consider it to be part of the "Republic of China". The constitution of which, for now, says this state is composed of the mainland and the island of Taiwan (amongst other islands). They reject the claim of the "People's Republic of China" to that "China", though recognise it holds power over the mainland. I.e., both Taipei and Beijing - for now - lay claim to a Chinese state which is composed of the mainland and the island of Taiwan. I think you, and others here, are confusing political identities with ethnic ones. I'm not sure which poll you refer to, but the polls I've read a substantial chunk consider themselves *both* Taiwanese and Chinese. I think your figure is combining both the "Taiwanese only" and "Taiwanese-and-Chinese" numbers.
@captain_slog I have a Brevet merino jersey from a number of years ago, and was always a bit confused by the chest pocket - very useful for a credit card, but certainly not big enough for a brevet card.
@MarsFlyer or rather, keeping the band but making it the same colour is rather pointless
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Mercedes. Nuff said.
Mercedes. Nuff said.
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
“The answers were unambiguous: self-centred men who are argumentative, stubborn, disagreeable and unempathetic are much more likely to own a high-status car such as an Audi, BMW or Mercedes.”
https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/good-society/fast-and-furious-research-shows-owners-high-status-cars-are-collision-course-traffic
Pushy ambitious people
Pushy ambitious people (mostly men) who don’t care that much about others like to advertise themselves as high status with showy toys shocker!
Probably a bit arbitrary which brands become “must have” but once they do that itself becomes the reason to get them.
I’m guessing you mean own as
I’m guessing you mean own as in lease because they’re unlikely to be able to buy the car – it being very expensive and they not actually earning that much.
Facking psycho. No mere
Facking psycho. No mere mistake – admitted to an intentional manoeuvre. Should have licence revoked
I’m no polite, well mannered
I’m no polite, well mannered shrinking violet. I’d have dropped the twat.
Youtube video description has
Youtube video description has this even though the driver multiple times shows his “understanding” of road rules.
“This was reported to the Met, and it went to court. The case was dismissed (no reason given to me).”
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
The poster thought the defence might have argued that the number plate was insufficiently clear.
Captain Badger wrote:
The poster speculated that they thought the defence might have argued that the number plate was insufficiently clear.— Captain Badger
It isn’t clear but there’s a pretty clear shot of the guy’s face (around 1.42) so hard to see how he could have pulled the “wasn’t me” defence. I’d guess they went for “my client was making a safe overtake when the cyclist hit his car so he pulled in to stop the cyclist and see if damage had occurred.” Utter rubbish of course but I’ve seen magistrates swallow bigger lies.
https://www.theguardian.com
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/nov/29/queensland-woman-who-ran-down-and-killed-cyclist-in-sheer-rage-jailed-for-10-years
Sorry, I’ve tried to edit this down to the TL;DR version.
Joanne Marie McAuley was incensed when cyclist Shui Ki Chan flipped her the finger on the Warrego Highway near Gatton about 7.30pm on 23 August 2012.
Blinded by fury, she took two separate highway exits to hunt down the 25-year-old Hong Kong national as he rode home from his shift at a nearby restaurant.
McAuley claimed she only intended to “scare” him but could not control the vehicle and smashed into Chan.
The cyclist was thrown onto the grass verge with a fractured pelvis and succumbed to the “injuries or the elements” before his body was eventually discovered the next morning.
…
“Police were enlisted immediately, and right from the outset, the investigation was in my words ‘less fulsome’, or in the words of the coroner ‘inadequate’,” prosecutor Clayton Wallis said.
In the 10 years since the fatality, McAuley boasted to multiple people – friends, family and associates – about the night she killed the cyclist.
Each version was “tailored to her audience” and became more elaborate as time wore on.
…
After weeks of legal negotiations, McAuley pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of manslaughter in the Brisbane supreme court on Monday.
…
McAuley collapsed and wailed “no” as she was sentenced to serve 10 years in jail and declared a serious and violent offender.
She refused to leave the dock, reaching out to sobbing supporters in the gallery before being taken by prison officers from the court. The 49-year-old will be eligible for parole in July 2026.
brooksby wrote:
10 years…
Quote:
Sadly familiar. The only difference here is that this has actually been pursued after the fact, but:
It took the driver incriminating themselves a lot for anything to happen. And the manner of this offense and the aftermath safely put this into “it’s actually murder / manslaughter” territory rather than “first time before the court” / “blameless” / “a lifetime careful driver” / “suffering nightmares following this terrible accident”.
chrisonatrike wrote:
TBH it was this that I found so horrendous. For ten f-ing years she told people about ‘the night I ran down a cyclist’ – so, did her friends and relations just think she was a nutter, making the whole thing up, or did they sympathise with her?
brooksby wrote:
An unpalatable blend of all three likely with the emphasis on the last two.
“What’s smug and deserves to be decapitated?”
“I offended many with my Christmas attack on cyclists. It was meant humorously but so many cyclists have taken it seriously that I plainly misjudged.” wrote Matthew Parris.
chrisonatrike wrote:
Still, as far as I know, the most complained about Times article; deservedly so, and made even worse by his “I’m sorry you don’t have a sense of humour” non-apology.
I’d hit to be a delivery
I’d hate to be a delivery driver if people react like this to peope knocking on their doors.
Or is it just car doors that are super sensitive?
Only a sample of one and very
Only a sample of one and very dated but my experience would suggest that it’s only car driver door which are super sensitive. I was overtaken years ago by a HGV driver at a city bend with railings when he started to cut into my lane. It’s the only door I’ve hit but his reaction was a lot better IIRC than the standard car driver ?
better in terms of
better in terms of entertainment?
or reasonable response and restraint (appreciation for the warning rather than offence that you have interefered with something as precious as his genitals)
“You spilled your blood all
“You spilled your blood all over my car’s paintwork, damn you!!”
Mercedes Man – The old “It’s
Mercedes Man – The old “It’s your own fault, you forced me to overtake when it was dangerous to do so” routine.
I’m not sure if this is some sort of Vulcan mind link thing that cyclists use to force bad driving or some sort of remote control over vehicle steering and speed functions.
The psychic cyclist – the
The psychic cyclist – the driver knew what he was about to do so the cyclist must have known this too.
Had a few of those where the driver fails to give way coming out of a side road but is was all ok becasue they knew I was there. The best excuse was ‘I’ve been driving for 19 years’.
Share the space as long as you don’t get in my way or hold me up.
hirsute wrote:
Ah, the old Jasper Carrott insurance form quotes: “I’d been driving for 20 years when I fell asleep at the wheel”.
What an asshole. In a rush
What an asshole. In a rush but had 5mins to argue why he had to almost knock the guy off his bike and it also looks as though he’s not bothered about other aspects of the law as well.
No insurance either on askMID
No insurance either on askMID.
I don’t know why there isn’t a national portal to quickly report these things.
Not defending the driver, who
Not defending the driver, who is clearly an asshole as noted, but the timestamp on the video is February 21 2020, so the vehicle may have been sold on or (quite possibly given his driving) totalled since then.
A bit of a pattern emerging
A bit of a pattern – no MOT, no Insurance, no road tax – emerging over the past few months, leads me to believe the quickest and most effective way of ending disputes is to offer to make a call to the ‘Feds’ – as I am reliably informed by junior, is the collequial term for PC Plod these days in the hood – which should deescalate matters rather rapidly.
ratherbeintobago wrote:
Did you think to check before posting this comment?
https://www.gov.uk/report-untaxed-vehicle
Alessandro wrote:
Video dated February 2021, so unless you now the same person still owns the car and still drives it…….
As the driver clearly drives like a knob, the car might well have been written off by now.
It’s actually February 21,
It’s actually February 21, 2020, so a distinct possibility.
crap I only looked at the
crap I only looked at the month and day, and assumed the year. obviously the wheels of justice turn slower than I thought.
wycombewheeler wrote:
The wheels of justice? Surely you mean the wheels of injustice.
Alessandro wrote:
Has anyone reported his vehicle yet for being untaxed and without MOT (by 4 days)?
hawkinspeter wrote:
they better be sure it is still on the road before making that complaint.
All that and 50 yards up the
All that and 50 yards up the road he turns into the petrol station.
Most petrol stations have ANPR and they cross-reference your numberplate against a database of known fuel thieves before the pump will dispense fuel.
It wouldn’t take much for them to check MOT, Tax and insurance status too. Not being able to buy fuel might be a good way of enforcing compliance.
I’m waiting for Nige to turn
I’m waiting for Nige to turn up and tell us why the cyclist is in the wrong.
Edit: damn, animated gifs don’t work
“I was past you when you hit
“I was past you when you hit my (rear door side) window” ?????
How long were the cyclists arms ? Mr Tickle on a bike ?
StuInNorway wrote:
in the mind of the driver, once the bonnet is ahead they are past, and it is down to the cyclist to get out of the way
Also in the mind of at least
Also in the mind of at least two posters on here. Hence their insistance that vehicles have fully overtaken cyclists when they are still level.
Quote:
Drive.
I do like the comment about keeping cars out of the bike lane, like snowploughs. Maybe call the council and say you’re unable to park / elderly relative can’t reach your car / cannot deliver a takeaway or box set. Might get some action.
Surely if driver gives 1.5m
Surely if driver gives 1.5m as in Highway Code cyclist would not be able to touch the car!
BigE wrote:
You are correct in practical terns re 1.5 m, except that it isn’t mentioned in the highway code. However most of the rules between 162 – 169 would scream that this was an illegal and dangerous over take, and should have been sanctioned.
Captain Badger wrote:
Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?
Sriracha wrote:
You mean is “illegal” like “inflammable” / “flammable” in that it often apparently means the same as “legal”?
Sriracha wrote:
Contronyms.
Sriracha wrote:
Aaaaarrgghgh it’s already been a long week…
sanctioned? if so yes, I hesitated before using it
Captain Badger wrote:
Aaaaarrgghgh it’s already been a long week…
sanctioned? if so yes, I hesitated before using it— Captain Badger
Indeed sanctioned. But nowt wrong with it. It’s just that it could end up conveying either of two opposed meanings.
I’m told that the editor of one august journal was in the habit of replying to the legions of hopefuls that he would “waste no time in reading their paper”. Clearly such behaviour should be sanctioned.
Sriracha wrote:
You may say it was a truly remarkable overtake. But the driver’s word is worth its weight in gold…
Sriracha wrote:
Oxymoron is useful.
eburtthebike wrote:
Oxymoron is for phrases such as “progressive conservatives” or “careful close pass”.
Contronyms are words that have multiple, contradictory meanings such as “fast” or “dust”.
hawkinspeter wrote:
Oxymoron applies to both words and phrases.
eburtthebike wrote:
Fun fact, oxymoron is autological in that the word itself is an oxymoron.
Nerdy fact, J. R. R. Tolkien interpreted his own surname as derived from the Low German equivalent of dull-keen (High German toll-kühn) which would be a literal equivalent of Greek oxy-moron.
However, “fast” and “dust” are contronyms and not oxymorons.
But is ‘autological’
But is ‘autological’ autological?
mdavidford wrote:
Yes and no, but more importantly, is “heterological” heterological?
(Heterological being the opposite, words that don’t describe themselves such as “long”, or “hyphenated”)
Or ‘unrepeatable’.
Or ‘unrepeatable’.
Or ‘unrepeatable’.
Or ‘unrepeatable’.
For bonus points, try to find
For bonus points, try to find a pair of co-autological words where one describes the other such as “autological” and “pentasyllabic”.
Well, following your lead,
Well, following your lead, ‘long’ and ‘monosyllabic’ would work quite nicely.
What do I win?
mdavidford wrote:
Good job!
You win a picture of a squirrel with a dictionary! (Save it and squirrel it away somewhere)
(I’m not sure that co-autological is a real thing, so I don’t know if both words have to describe both words in which case your example wouldn’t work)
Cool – I’ll file it between
Cool – I’ll file it between my squid and my squirtles.
BigE wrote:
Judging by how sleeves are often too long for me, I realise my arms are shorter than average. But I have measured them at
0.6mm0.6m, I don’t think other people have arms twice as long as me.Maybe if the cyclist was an orang utan they might reach at 1.5m
wycombewheeler wrote:
What calipers are you using?
crap, I should have left it
crap, I should have left it as 600mm instead of deciding to change to 0.6m
wycombewheeler wrote:
Not meaning to body-shame, but those are very short arms.
hawkinspeter wrote:
even for a squirrel
wycombewheeler wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abcOw2lHorI
Prick would have been picking
Prick would have been picking his teeth up off the floor if he’d tried that on me.
Utter arsehole. A good shoeing might actually make him learn something.
Owd Big ‘Ead wrote:
Did you not see the empathy memo that went round?
Sod the memo.
Sod the memo.
TfL once again show that they have no idea what it’s like being a cyclist around motorists hell-bent on MGIF.
They are very much part of the problem, not the solution.
He needs a slap for the constant use of ‘bro’. That alone would be enough to tip me over the edge
I’m glad he kept his cool.
I’m glad he kept his cool. The exchange shows how ill-informed the driver is. Perhaps if TfL see it they’ll understand that road safety is better served by education of the the rules rather than showing empathy for ignorant and dangerous dicks.
IanMK wrote:
Sounds like the empathy is strong in this one. Indeed Owd Big ‘Ead is practically channelling the driver…
Owd Big ‘Ead wrote:
“And if that Jean-Claude van Damme came ’round ‘ere, with his mayonnaise all over his chips and showing off his well-oiled biceps, then I’d be ‘Oi! van Damme! Do not come here with your adulterated chips, instead of salt and vinegar like God intended, and go give yourself a proper wash’. Grrrr…”
😉
Owd Big ‘Ead wrote:
Right, and what then happens when they pull a knife or a gun? Or if you achieve your aim and end up facing court yourself? The rider handled this exactly right I thought, didn’t back down, made his points forcefully and clearly but didn’t give the idiot the excuse to escalate that he quite clearly would have been happy to have.
Horses for courses Rendel.
Horses for courses Rendel.
Have you ever had anyone pull a knife, or gun on you while cycling? No, thought not.
We all deal with these situations in different ways and fair play to the cyclist for keeping his shit together.
Unfortunately for me, I’m not that cool headed, I’m far more likely to deal with the situation first, then worry about the consequences after.
I’ve tried the ‘be nice’ routine before and got nowhere. For me, going nuclear from the get go seems to get the message across in a way they won’t forget anytime soon.
Owd Big ‘Ead wrote:
I’ve had someone threaten me with a knife from the passenger seat, yes, fortunately we were both moving and I shot off down a sidestreet sharpish, and I was mugged at knifepoint whilst cycling once (in Bath, of all places!). An atrocious number of people do carry knives, particularly young people, is it worth taking a gamble on whether they have one or not? Equally, is it worth risking a prison sentence (possibly a huge one, more than one person has gone down for manslaughter after a single punch) by “going nuclear” on someone?
Owd Big 'Ead wrote:
If they did, I’d give them a SLAP. Oi knife wielding thug! NO!…. etc etc….
It’s such a shame that thanks
It’s such a shame that thanks to easy finance anyone can now drive a Mercedes. I remember when driving a Merc meant something.
bikeman01 wrote:
Ooooh it still does……
Captain Badger wrote:
It definitely means SOMETHING…
“The answers were unambiguous: self-centred men who are argumentative, stubborn, disagreeable and unempathetic are much more likely to own a high-status car such as an Audi, BMW or Mercedes.”
https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/good-society/fast-and-furious-research-shows-owners-high-status-cars-are-collision-course-traffic
The argument is probabmatic.
The argument is probabmatic. If I get time later, I’ll put a counter argument forward.
Also, is the vehical in the vid particularly ‘high status’?
There’s plenty of BMWs, Mecrs and Audi’s out there that I wouldn’t considered high status, not even close, many are just aging ****, with chipped and poorly modded engines.
Appalling driving in the vid,
Appalling driving in the vid, and the drivers interpretation and evaluation of the highway code is very odd. It’s almost like he’s never read it?
Re Owain Doull: He could have
Re Owain Doull: He could have probably got away with it by adding GMT to the tattoo.
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
A pedant writes: he won his team pursuit gold around 7PM Rio time; Rio is (somewhat surprisingly) only three hours behind GMT, so he still took the medal on August 12th English time. I really, really must get out more.
Rendel Harris wrote:
3 hours behind now? or 3 hours behind in August when UK clocks will have gone forward and Brazil’s might have gone backwards.
Brazil doesn’t observe
Brazil doesn’t observe daylight saving time now but it did in 2016, putting the clocks an hour forward in February and an hour back in November, so in August would have still been three hours behind UK time.
Is that an African or a
Is that an African or a European Swallow?
It’s perfectly simple. If you
It’s perfectly simple. If you’re not getting your hair cut, you don’t have to move your brother’s clothes down to the lower peg. You simply collect his note before lunch, after you’ve done your scripture prep, when you’ve written your letter home, before rest, move your own clothes onto the lower peg, greet the visitors, and report to Mr. Viney that you’ve had your chit signed.
Rendel Harris wrote:
no, as they are in the southern hemisphere they would have put their clocks back in February and forward in November.
So, as with Austrailia the time difference from the UK varied by 2 hours summer to winter.
However, the last change was at the end of their summer putting their clocks back, so they are currently on the same time they would have been during the Olympics. (UTC-3) But the UK would have been at UTC+1 in our summer (when the Olympics happened). So during the Olympics the time difference would have been 4 hours.
Still leaving the event on the 12th of August.
wycombewheeler wrote:
He could still have just added ‘UTC+3’ to the tattoo…