Anti-LTN ranter’s accidental active travel advert… bemoans congestion while walking past gridlocked bumper-to-bumper cars; Giro d’Italia mountain stage; Short stay bike racks? Coming to cycle parking near you? + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Short stay bike racks? Coming to cycle parking near you?
Here’s one for us to all get our heads around this Thursday morning…
How short a stay do you want? pic.twitter.com/zZ6BXUsFVa
— Gary Outram (@KentRiderGaz) May 24, 2023
I guess I’d just never considered the idea that extra cycle racks could be offered specifically for those who just need to nip in for something. Perhaps that’s because most of the time we’re pleased to see ANY cycle rack, let alone trip-dependant provision…
Admittedly a train station seems a more bizarre location for these, can’t remember too many rail-based 20-minute round trips in my time, although I guess if there are shops or cafes outside it would make sense to let those dropping in have handy bike rack access, while those leaving their steed all day can lock it safely inside the station?
Anyone seen these before? Do they work well or is there still the obligatory one-wheeled, flat-tyred, battered mountain bike with a rusted chain knocking around six months later?
NEW 2023 Specialized Allez — first look at the (disc brake only) entry level road bike
If you missed Jamie’s vid from the other day…
COMMENTS: Short stay bike racks
Thinking about it more, I’m guessing most of these racks would be in the sort of busy location I’d probably avoid leaving my bike locked for more than just a pop into a shop, but here are some of your comments on the subject…
a4th: “There used to be (I haven’t been for a couple of years) some small bike racks near the shops on the concourse at Glasgow Central station — really handy for getting stuff before you got on the train. Not sure if they were actively managed but they seemed to work. Location and exposure meant I wouldn’t want to leave a bike there long term.”
Hirsute: “I’d hazard that if a bike has been there too long, they will remove it a bit like the notices that say no bikes locked to these railings.”
mitsky: “Wait. 1) Are they going to actually employ someone to monitor the bike racks with a timer to ensure none are kept there for more than 20 minutes? 2) As bikes don’t have registration plates (!)… how would they identify anyone (aside from CCTV footage of the bike/user) to post a fine to? (OK, I know they could attach a fine to the bike… but with no vehicle registration to tie to the record like with motor vehicles I can’t see this working very well.)
marmotte27: “As this cannot be policed, the sign seems more of an informative nature. Success depending on many factors, including the quality of the long stay cycle parking facilities. Based on that a civil-minded person like me might respect these signs.”
hawkinspeter: “I’d go find the long-term parking if I saw a sign like that. If it’s intended for cyclists to pop into shops, then I wouldn’t want to prevent them doing that if there’s a good alternative fro me that’s more suitable.”
When it's mountains, mountains and more mountains for the next three days...
Thinking about Roma#Giro #GirodItalia pic.twitter.com/sYUrWrQygF
— Giro d’Italia (@giroditalia) May 25, 2023
Frasers Group buys ProBikeKit, report suggests
Earlier this week the rumours began that ProBikeKit was to be bought by Mike Ashley’s Frasers Group, the high street empire that already owns Evans Cycles…
> Cycling retailer ProBikeKit to be bought by Mike Ashley’s Frasers Group, reports suggest
This morning, Cyclingindustrynews is reporting the deal is complete, sources telling them it has gone ahead and PBK has joined the group. None of this will be particularly surprising as it was expected the deal would be finalised and announced by the end of the week.
Dame Sarah Storey slams drivers who turn "a blind eye to yet another death", asks for progress after three HGV crashes with cyclists in a day — two of them fatal
Insane pro skills from Niccolò Bonifazio clears bottle from Giro d'Italia peloton's path
I’m genuinely in awe at this…
The skills of Niccolò Bonifazio to get bottles out of the way 😮 #Giro pic.twitter.com/iO09YL31Lz
— Intermarché-Circus-Wanty (@IntermarcheCW) May 25, 2023
The road rash I’d get trying that…
Having gushed about the skill, it’s probably worth adding Bonifazio never made it to the start today, we’re assuming just because he’s a sprinter and there’s not much point him slogging through the mountains, but maybe he tried this one too many times?
Tell a lie, he’s got bronchitis, that would explain it. You keep on casually flicking bottles out the road, Niccolò…
Maglia rosa Geraint Thomas turns 37
This Giro d’Italia lark looks easy, you spin around Italy for a couple of hours and get cake on the startline… (sarcasm disclaimer: just in case any rain-battered, heavily fatigued, illness-riddled pro is reading this and feels like sending a strong-worded reply)…
🎂 Spoiler #Giro #GirodItalia pic.twitter.com/6FhFRtQ6Rz
— Giro d’Italia (@giroditalia) May 25, 2023
First Cav, now G, the bakers of Italy are making a killing off this Giro…
Giro d'Italia: Stunning scenery and very popular stage winner?
Italy…
It’s looking like a day for the breakaway, with 20km to go six riders have just over four minutes on the peloton, Thibaut Pinot the pick of the escapees. Alongside him are Derek Gee, Marco Frigo, Filippo Zanna, Warren Barguil and Aurélien Paret-Peintre. I’ll give you one guess who the road.cc fan club wants to win…
Cyclist completes 107-mile Cardiff to Tenby bike ride... on a penny-farthing
Mickey Forrest completed the Carten 100 ride last weekend, 107 miles from Cardiff to Tenby, commendable in its own right but even more so when you consider his bike…
“The camaraderie that could be felt that day was incredible,” he told the Western Telegraph. “Every single cyclist was acknowledged by the members of the public who turned out to support us on the day, but when they saw the penny farthing coming towards them, the reception they gave was something else. I was even getting high fives from the children.”
Inspired by another rider achieving the same feat back in 2019, Mickey got involved, trying it out before buying the rider’s old penny-farthing when he got a new one…
“It’s a great run, but naturally because my bike doesn’t have any gears and the pedals are fixed to the wheel, it’s a pretty slow and steady ride. But the speed tends to balance out. On the flat you reach a certain speed, and this tends to become the speed that’s maintained throughout the entire journey.
“The pleasure that this bike is giving me is fantastic. As Carten 100 looks forward to its 20th anniversary next year I’m determined to do everything I can to ride it again in 2024.”
Thibaut Pinot second AGAIN as search for one last Giro d'Italia stage win goes on
Somebody’s heart was going to get broken, Italian champion Filippo Zanna sprinting for a stage win in his home region against Thibaut Pinot, the darling of the internet’s cycling fans…
FILIPPO ZANA WINS STAGE 18 OF THE GIRO D’ITALIA! 🇮🇹
The Italian national champion beats Thibaut Pino to the line 🤝#giroditalia pic.twitter.com/Jo90Z310En
— Eurosport (@eurosport) May 25, 2023
At least the Pinot fan club is taking it well…
P…. pic.twitter.com/zGdTIablpA
— Collectif Ultras Pinot (@UltrasPinot) May 25, 2023
On the GC front, Geraint Thomas will probably be happiest, celebrating his birthday by losing no time to any of his rivals. Some spirited attacking by Primož Roglič earned him seconds on João Almeida and bumps him up to second, but his Ineos Grenadiers rival remains 29 seconds ahead.
Tomorrow’s queen stage takes the riders over 2,000m three times, with ascents of Passo Valparola and Passo Giau before a summit finish at Tre Cime di Lavaredo. Then, Saturday sees the much anticipated mountain TT that will decide who wears the maglia rosa in Rome on Sunday.
Hear me out… tomorrow Pinot wins… Saturday, a TT battle royale where the best man wins by a handful of seconds… Sunday, Cav wins…
Anti-LTN ranter's accidental active travel advert... bemoans congestion while walking past gridlocked bumper-to-bumper cars
10 points to the first person to spot what’s causing the congestion in Alan’s video?
We need to move freely
Stop ULEZ
Stop LTNs
Together pic.twitter.com/9V1jxmX5xO
— Alan D Miller (@alanvibe) May 24, 2023
I mean, obviously the answer was going to be ULEZ and LTNs, you know the script by now. Presumably a short distance away there is a shockingly dystopian reality unfolding…
Listen… hear it? The calm, quite chat, birds….. can you feel the layers of stress disappearing? now imagine if our cities sounded like this every day… IMAGINE… #airpollution #carfreecities #activetravel #mentalhealth #calm #climateaction pic.twitter.com/q3azgCsQOM
— Natalie Lindsay (@NatalieDLindsay) May 23, 2023
We’re not quite sure the video had the effect intended, the replies now full of people pointing out walking, like Alan is so perfectly demonstrating, is one way to move about an eternally traffic-congested city… well, freely. Others suggested how much road space the equivalent number of people would take up if using a bus or bicycles…
If all those space-inefficient congestion-causing bathroom-sized mostly-single-occupant vehicles would be replaced by space-efficient vehicles (aka bicycles) the traffic problem would be solved. Cars don’t scale well in cities. Its basic geometry!
— Hugo (@hugohp99) May 24, 2023
14 people created that mess – there’s only 14 cars. Yet in this video you’ll see around 40 cyclists go by in the same time 8 cars do.
Cyclists do move freely.
Cars and drivers don’t. https://t.co/Nn42vEn07p
— LetMeCycle (@LetMecycle) May 24, 2023
But what about ULEZ and those pesky LTNs causing congestion?
This is hilarious:-
THERE ARE TOO MANY CARS!
What do you want to do about it?
HAVE MORE CARS!
— Michael @baoigheallain@mastodon.ie (@baoigheallain) May 24, 2023
I had a very close look at the footage….I think the issue might be cars.
— Naughty Drivers (@Naughtydrivers) May 24, 2023
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The first 750 words of this article comprise a detailed explanation of the ways in which cycling continues to feel the full force of climate change. Perhaps more time reading what's actually written before rushing to spaff nonsense everywhere might help your comprehension.
Sadiq Khan and TfL cannot be accused of neglecting cycling. They have greatly improved provision in London. Yes there is a lot more that could be done, but we need to be patient. The public finances aren't in good shape, so things are going to b e tight for some time.
@Rendel Harris "ultimately football at every level is played on roughly the same size to pitch, the goals are the same size and there are eleven players on each team." Except they don't. In a senior team a 16-year-old plays against adults, under tougher competition, plays more matches and under greater mental strain. If your argument was vaild, I could easily counter it by sayng that riding the very same bike on the same roads as in training, 150 km a day, should not be such a big deal for a pro cyclist.
The TdF yearly circus generates human and atmospheric pollution. Big time. Airplanes, choppers, trucks, cars for teams, media, VIP and other involved parties. But pro cycling is a profitable business, ask ASO. Don't spoil the party with questions about carbon footprint, side-road waste, recycling (pun intended). Also, why does ASO not have a plan B case of high temperatures - earlier departure times, shortened stages, ... ? Based on this week's weather forecasts, several stages are likely to be cancelled. Quote of the day : "But as cycling continues to feel the full force of climate change, ..." In what ways?
@Podc I heard that Scunthorpe CC's experiment with wrapping the name around the jersey under the arm to make it fit didn't go too well either.
Be interesting to see if UAE chase down any breakaway today to ensure that Jonas stays in yellow.
@Rendel Harris Interestingly, and it sort of supports my theory that UAE were being cunning, Pog has the mountains jersey today because he was the quickest up the final climb, which argues that he hadn't burnt all his matches when he got to the finish.
@JLasTSR It takes time. I got knocked off nine years ago in broad daylight on a roundabout, by a driver who was wearing very dark glasses, I'm suspicious that he was actually visually impaired. No prosecution. It took me a few years to get my confidence back. I wish you all the best in getting the enjoyment back.
@tomlew That sounds like someone who is thinking about GC to me. I don't think your comparison with 16-year-old footballers is particularly valid, ultimately football at every level is played on roughly the same size to pitch, the goals are the same size and there are eleven players on each team. If professional football was played on a pitch three times the size with goals half the size and for five hours instead of ninety minutes, that might be a good comparison. I have no objection to Seixas riding this tour for experience, I think it's a good idea, but as I've said, I don't think he's got any chance of winning unless something major happens to the big contenders (he's already shipped 39 seconds and 27 seconds respectively to the big dogs) and if he tries too hard he could receive humiliating setbacks that could damage him psychologically throughout his career. You say "If I were a prodigy cyclist youngster with a realistic shot at winning, I might take [the risk] even if I knew it might be the end of my career", but he doesn't have a realistic shot at winning and in taking the risk he might be putting in jeopardy the possibility of winning multiple Tours in future. I don't think this is a situation where a "death or glory" approach is suitable. We shall reconvene in three weeks time and see what happened, and I'm quite happy to be proved wrong and if he does win this year it would certainly mean we had had a thrilling Tour.
@Rendel Harris I absolutely know all that. But that's exactly what I said: he is risking a lot, but the reward might be worth it. It is only a matter of judgment. And by the way, AFAIK nobody said he's going to ride to win the GC. Maybe the plan is exactly to learn his lessons this year so that next year nobody can say he's too inexperienced to really go for victory. Of course, he could ride the Vuelta, but what better place is there to learn the TdF than TdF itself? Times have changed. No more pecking orders, 16-year-old footballers are already shaking the world (even though most of them do indeed get chewed and spat out badly, but again: that's a risk they take). Why wouldn't the same happen in cycling?
25 thoughts on “Anti-LTN ranter’s accidental active travel advert… bemoans congestion while walking past gridlocked bumper-to-bumper cars; Giro d’Italia mountain stage; Short stay bike racks? Coming to cycle parking near you? + more on the live blog”
Wait.
Wait.
1) Are they going to actually employ someone to monitor the bike racks with a timer to ensure none are kept there for more than 20 minutes?
2) As bikes don’t have registration plates (!)… how would they identify anyone (aside from CCTV footage of the bike/user) to post a fine to?
(OK, I know they could attach a fine to the bike… but with no vehicle registration to tie to the record like with motor vehicles I can’t see this working very well.)
As this cannot be policed,
As this cannot be policed, the sign seems more of an informative nature. Succes depending on many factors, including the quality of the long stay cycle parking facilities. Based on that a civil-minded person like me might respect these signs.
marmotte27 wrote:
I’d go find the long-term parking if I saw a sign like that. If it’s intended for cyclists to pop into shops, then I wouldn’t want to prevent them doing that if there’s a good alternative fro me that’s more suitable.
Didn’t we have an example of
Didn’t we have an example of a short-stay bike rack in yesterday’s news?
I’d hazard that if a bike has
I’d hazard that if a bike has been there too long, they will remove it a bit like the notices that say no bikes locked to these railings.
There used to be (I haven’t
There used to be (I haven’t been for a couple of years) some small bike racks near the shops on the concourse at Glasgow Central station – really handy for getting stuff before you got on the train. Not sure if they were actively managed but they seemed to work. Location and exposure meant I wouldn’t want to leave a bike there long term.
Like yourself, I haven’t been
Like yourself, I haven’t been in Central in a while but they worked well and I don’t know of any security issues. I used to leave my bike there while I was driving trains and my bikes were always there when I came back. They have very similar set up at Waverley and, again, I know of no security issues (I have never left a bike there). Both locations do seem to suffer from a large number of bikes parked there years ago and still not claimed…
Queen Street station does not have those same bike racks but it has recently opened up indoor bike storage which seems well used and staff do checks. (This is in addition to the outdoor bike racks at both sides of the station). I know of a couple of my colleagues who had bikes stolen from outside of Queen Street a few years and I met someone recently whose bike has gone missing unfortunately but it seems rare. The issue with the indoor bike storage though is it is only open between 7am and 10pm. I guess this suits most people – unless you miss your train and arrive back after 10!
Given that I’m the only daily cyclist working there – there are 3/4 other occasional cyclists – I just stash my bike in the bothy and no one bothers.
I rode past an anti-ULEZ
I rode past an anti-ULEZ protest in Beckenham at the weekend. They’d blocked off a roundabout, and the traffic was appalling. I asked the man handing out leaflets if that was how he wanted things to be, but he didn’t find it very funny.
A picture of that would be
A picture of that would be brilliant to add to the dictionary definition of “irony”.
Y’know I watched that fella
Y’know I watched that fella video.. and he’s not ranting, he’s being nice and calm, enjoying a walk seemingly the voice of reason.. ‘We need to move freely Stop ULEZ Stop LTNs Together’ ….. I really wonder if he believes that the answer to conjestion really is to allow unimpeded access for cars.. does that mean he wants cars to be able to park anywhere too?
I can from his tone and manner that some people would be fooled by what appears to be a level headed approach to the probelm he highlights.. oh why oh why can’t people be clever’er..er… y’know, like we is.
I mean, man’s got a point.
I mean, man’s got a point. He has had to walk there because there’s too much traffic to drive. And it’s all happened over his lifetime – there never used to be any LTNs or cycle lanes or worries about emission zones. Ergo…
chrisonatrike wrote:
Ergo…. he is to blame? Things were much better before he was born….
It’s difficult to tell
It’s difficult to tell whether he’s come up with this nonsense himself or whether he’s been groomed in to believing it.
IanMK wrote:
We’ve all been groomed! “Normal” is … normal, right? Driving everywhere (and parking almost anywhere) is entirely normal for most of the UK. As is waiting ages to cross the road etc…
I hope he’s right to be concerned – otherwise there will be no change! Even for the most minimal transformation of our streets to occur some people are going to have to change their behaviour. They are very unlikely to do this willingly and certainly won’t do so spontaneously – otherwise it would have happened.
Obviously I have a radically different view from this chap of what is happening, the way we should go etc. I think these changes will have positive effects that he’s not dreamed of. I think change is possible, not a pipe dream. I do so mostly because I’ve seen it for myself though.
LTN rant:
LTN rant:
Obviously the solution to traffic congestion is more cars. However, even this is better than the American solution which would be more guns.
Average American: “Why can’t
Average American: “Why can’t we have both?”
OT, but…
OT, but…
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/25/winnie-the-pooh-books-teaches-texas-kids-run-hide-fight-shooting
brooksby wrote:
“No Way to Prevent This”, says only nation where this regularly happens
I’ll join you off topic with
I’ll join you off topic with a poignant quote I saw last week from a parent who had lost a child in a school shooting: “You had a choice between stopping selling guns and starting selling bullet-proof school backpacks. You chose the latter.”
Ah, yes, but capitalism. Why
Ah, yes, but capitalism. Why not sell both guns and bulletproof backpacks? More money! Who cares if it’s covered in the blood of the innocent? Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, school kids, what are those to people who they don’t affect?
North Somerset Council
North Somerset Council promises Clevedon road review
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-65698239
And that picture says they’ve removed the bike stands, which are surely the least controversial part of the whole scheme…?
A few miles left in this
A few miles left in this picture yet.
Considering Penny Farthings
Considering Penny Farthings are the most cumbersome and impractical bikes to ever exist, I tip my hat to anyone who rides them in such a manner. Well done, Mickey Forrest!
For the entry about cars
For the entry about cars (motorists) causing congestion/anti-LTN:
My average speed on a bike is a tad faster than motorists during rush hour, even when accounting for the whole journey including stopping at red lights etc.
It is usually a bit faster outside of rush hour as I’m not slowed down by queues of motor vehicles in the way, sometimes taking up too much space on the road for me to pass at a reasonable speed.
But overall my increased journey time is relatively low even with traffic, on the order of 10% or less.
The same cannot be said for motorists where delays caused by congestion can often result in journey times many factors greater than if the roads were clear.
I suggest, with knowing that traffic gridlock means an average speed of 6 mph according to this latest snippet, people work out what their average driving time is outside of rush hour and compare it to that of other times.
Can’t resist posting this
Can’t resist posting this vine tweet
Although I have no idea what he did wrong other than the “being on the road whilst on a bike” offence.