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Twitter) (Image Credit: Gersh Kuntzman/Twitter)

“I’ll stop when they stop!”: Public-spirited cyclist’s mission to remove convenient items covering car number plates; Get the bike song to Christmas No.1; Reaction to 2024 Tour’s Italian Grand Départ + more on the live blog

Only two more live blogs ’til Christmas! Dan Alexander is on duty for Thursday’s edition…
  • by Dan Alexander
Thu, Dec 22, 2022 09:05
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SUMMARY

  • Creating music with a bike
  • From CyclingMikey to the French parking painters — the other public service cyclists
  • Gersh Kuntzman speaks to the New York Times about his number plate-clearing activities
  • Reaction to 2024 Tour's Italian Grand Départ
  • Team BikeExchange - Jayco become Team Jayco AlUla as Saudi Arabian money enters the WorldTour
  • They'll struggle to defend Le Tour on one of them...
  • Pogačar vs Evenepoel may happen at UAE Tour
  • Winter road bike tyres | 6 of the BEST for 2023
  • Primož Roglič to race the Giro d'Italia in 2023
  • One man who's not excited for the Giro...
  • But why does he do it?
  • "It shows just how far car culture has gone when someone trying to stop people breaking the law (almost) gets taken to court": Reaction to our main blog story of the day
  • "I'll stop when they stop!": Public-spirited cyclist's one-man mission to remove convenient items covering car number plates
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22 December 2022, 09:05

Creating music with a bike

Reminds us of this classic from the Covid quarantine days…

Song name??
Day 4 pic.twitter.com/4rfTDz00Do

— Cyrus Monk (@Cyrus_Monk) November 17, 2020

> Tacx Neo stars in household object rendition of Darude’s Sandstorm

22 December 2022, 09:05

From CyclingMikey to the French parking painters — the other public service cyclists

Mikeys American cousin??

— Feefifofum (@Feefifofum_is_i) December 22, 2022

This morning’s main blog story got us thinking about the other public-spirited cycling-related causes we’ve covered over the years…

CyclingMikey 

cyclingmikey - via youtube.PNG
cyclingmikey - via youtube (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
cyclingmikey - via youtube.PNG
cyclingmikey – via youtube (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

London’s protector of junctions from dangerous queue cutting and phone use behind the wheel. Mikey has caught hundreds of drivers using their phone at the wheel, including famous faces such as Guy Ritchie, Frank Lampard and Chris Eubank…

It’s not just about the celebrities though, as the extensive library on YouTube and this website proves…

French parking painters

Vigilante cyclist's graffiti attacks on cars blocking bike lanes (@50_euros)
Vigilante cyclist's graffiti attacks on cars blocking bike lanes (@50_euros) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Vigilante cyclist's graffiti attacks on cars blocking bike lanes (@50_euros)
Vigilante cyclist's graffiti attacks on cars blocking bike lanes (@50_euros) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Another classic…

Vigilante cyclist's graffiti attacks on cars blocking bike lanes (@50_euros)
Vigilante cyclist's graffiti attacks on cars blocking bike lanes (@50_euros) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Vigilante cyclist's graffiti attacks on cars blocking bike lanes (@50_euros)
Vigilante cyclist's graffiti attacks on cars blocking bike lanes (@50_euros) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 The self-named “masked vigilante on a crusade against bad motorists” uploads videos to YouTube on the Cinquante Euros channel, and shares pictures on social media as @50_euros.

Anyone remember any others?

22 December 2022, 09:05

Gersh Kuntzman speaks to the New York Times about his number plate-clearing activities

New York cyclist number plates (Gersh Kuntzman/Twitter)
Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
New York cyclist number plates (Gersh Kuntzman/Twitter)
Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Here’s the New York Times feature Gersh mentioned in one of the videos we linked earlier. It’s well worth a read and details how the editor of Streetsblog New York — a publication covering the movement for better walking, biking, and transit in the five boroughs — pedals around his daily routine scanning for covered plates.

Corey Kilgannon of the NYT notes drivers covering their plates to avoid detection by speed and red light cameras as well as bridge and tunnel tolls cost the city more than $100 million a year.

“I’m trying to show the political establishment that this is really a widespread problem,” Kuntzman concluded. “I could fix 15 plates a day without breaking a sweat.”

22 December 2022, 09:05

Reaction to 2024 Tour's Italian Grand Départ

Florence (licensed CC BY 2.0 by Gary Campbell-Hall)
Florence (licensed CC BY 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Florence (licensed CC BY 2.0 by Gary Campbell-Hall)
Florence (licensed CC BY 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The big news last night was that the Tour de France announced it will begin in Italy next year for the first time. It marks the 100th anniversary of the first Italian win at the race and the route includes tributes to many of the greats — Fausto Coppi, Gino Bartali and Marco Pantani…

> Tour de France 2024 to start in Italy for first time in history of race 

The profiles look pretty punchy too…

Stage 1 / Etape 1

🚩 Florence @comunefi – Rimini @comunerimini🏁
📏 205 km

💪 3.800 metres of vertical gain through the Apenines for this first stage.

💪 3.800 mètres de dénivelé à travers les Apennins pour cette première étape du #TDF2024. pic.twitter.com/a7Ak4ED1Fa

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) December 21, 2022

Stage 2/Etape 2 #TDF2024

🚩 Cesenatico – @comunebologna🏁
📏 205 km

💪 6 climbs including two ascents to San Luca : punchers are in for a real treat.

💪 Des souvenirs d’arc-en-ciel pour @alafpolak1 dans la Gallisterna et double ascension de San Luca : parole aux puncheurs. pic.twitter.com/CbrgsYhRhQ

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) December 21, 2022

🚩 Plaisance – Turin🏁
📏 225 km

💚 Pure sprinters will get their first chance to shine on the road from Emilia-Romagna to Piedmont.

💚 Les purs sprinteurs trouveront l’occasion de rafler un premier bouquet en allant d’Emilie-Romagne au Piémont.
#TDF2024 pic.twitter.com/UMtrIsK2qX

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) December 21, 2022

And you lot are loving the look of it…

Gozzy: “No less than 3700km of climbing? That’s gonna be a mega first stage!  Can’t wait to see the time gaps after that day.”

Wouldn’t that be a fun trip.

— Kirk 🇺🇦 🦢 (@santafegolfpro) December 21, 2022

22 December 2022, 09:05

Team BikeExchange - Jayco become Team Jayco AlUla as Saudi Arabian money enters the WorldTour

𝙿𝚛𝚎𝚜𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚗𝚐:

🔹 𝗢𝘂𝗿 𝗻𝗲𝘄 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟯 𝗻𝗮𝗺𝗲

🔹 𝗧𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗝𝗔𝗬𝗖𝗢 𝗔𝗟𝗨𝗟𝗔 🔹

“𝚃𝚘 𝚜𝚎𝚎 𝙰𝚕𝚄𝚕𝚊 𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 𝚞𝚙, 𝚒𝚝 𝚒𝚜 𝚊 𝚋𝚒𝚐 𝚖𝚘𝚖𝚎𝚗𝚝 𝚏𝚘𝚛 𝚞𝚜 𝚊𝚜 𝚊𝚗 𝚘𝚛𝚐𝚊𝚗𝚒𝚜𝚊𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗.”@JaycoAU | @ExperienceAlUla https://t.co/Oe2a02LTJP

— Team Jayco AlUla (@GreenEDGEteam) December 22, 2022

Pro cycling’s latest sportswashing scandal is underway…

 The WorldTour team this morning announced the Royal Commission for AlUla (RCU) is stepping up from official partner to second naming rights partner on a two-year deal. 

So who are AlUla and why is its tourist board stepping into cycling?

The area of Saudi Arabia is, according to the press release, a “boutique heritage and culture destination in Northwest Saudi Arabia” that “hopes to introduce the stunning landscape of ancient civilizations to millions of cycling and sports fans around the world”.

“Over the past years the region has developed to establish a strong connection with sport, having hosted a variety of events, including the UCI 2.1 Saudi Tour in February 2022.”

In Phillip Jones, the Chief Management & Marketing Officer of Alula’s words: “Over the last few years, we have started to become known as an unchartered, intriguing destination for curious travellers and we feel this partnership with Team Jayco AlUla is an important part of our strategy and success.

“We love working with the passionate team, both those competing and those facilitating, and we love the alignment of the two brands as we continue to develop AlUla into a world-leading example of responsible and sustainable tourism. 

“Cycling is a big part of our vision for the future of AlUla with natural assets of stunning sandstone mountains, volcanic plateaus and an oasis with long winding roads running through it all. We are excited to be hosting the inaugural cycling camp in AlUla directly after the Saudi Tour 2023 where the cyclists will have a chance to engage and inspire the next generation.

“We’ve been cheering the team on and encouraging more fans across the region, and we look forward to more success on and off the road for Team Jayco AlUla.”

Brent Copeland, team manager, added: “We had the great pleasure of visiting AlUla in February for the Saudi Tour, and we were blown away with the spectacle that it was. Next year as we grow our partnership, we will have a cycling camp in AlUla to encourage the local community to be engaged with the sport, to inspire new generations for an active lifestyle and to help them dream of becoming the champions of the future.”

Needless to say the sponsorship has raised some eyebrows…

They were already there!

— Mathew Mitchell (@MatMitchell30) December 22, 2022

Saudi money? Really.

— TiPoole (@tip66) December 22, 2022

When will teams stand up and have some morals and refuse to be part of sport washing campaigns by these countries who refuse to offer their citizens basic human rights and equality #Sportswashing #Saudi https://t.co/xK18pIdERs

— Mark Yale (@Mark_Yale) December 22, 2022

Perhaps most interestingly though, yes, the change applies to the women’s team too… 

22 December 2022, 09:05

They'll struggle to defend Le Tour on one of them...

As on January 1, 2023, Lease a Bike will be a subsponsor of Team Jumbo-Visma along with Pon. This means, among other things, that the brand will be visible on the riders’ cycling jerseys in 2023.🤩

— Team Jumbo-Visma cycling (@JumboVismaRoad) December 21, 2022

Don’t think Cervélo will feel too threatened… 

22 December 2022, 09:05

Pogačar vs Evenepoel may happen at UAE Tour

Remco Evenepoel wins 2022 World Championships in Wollongong (@cauldphoto/Specialized)
Specialized) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Remco Evenepoel wins 2022 World Championships in Wollongong (@cauldphoto/Specialized)
Specialized) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

[📷: @cauldphoto/Specialized]

Remco Evenepoel has hinted at a possible duel between himself and Tadej Pogačar at the UAE Tour in February. Pogačar has won the last two editions but suggested he might take a slower approach to peaking this season. Evenepoel similarly has big goals later in the year, namely the Giro d’Italia in May, but suggested an early season head-to-head would excite him…

Pogačar and Vingegaard descend the Galibier on the way to their Tour-defining showdown on the Col du Granon (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Pogačar and Vingegaard descend the Galibier on the way to their Tour-defining showdown on the Col du Granon (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

[📷: Zac Williams/SWpix.com] 

Telling Het Nieuwsblad riding the UAE Tour, a big race for Pogačar’s sponsors, is “indeed the plan at the moment”.

“It would be good to compete with Tadej on a race where he has already won twice. He will be in top form there anyway, because for his team it’s kind of like the World Championships. We’re still looking at what the best option is. For now, only San Juan, Liège and the Giro are already 100 per cent certain.”

22 December 2022, 09:05

Winter road bike tyres | 6 of the BEST for 2023

> Best winter road bike tyres 2022 — ride confidently in cold and nasty weather

22 December 2022, 09:05

Primož Roglič to race the Giro d'Italia in 2023

After a year to forget in 2022 Primož Roglič is setting his sights on new targets in 2023…

Dear @giroditalia,

Let’s see each other again in May.

𝑾𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒍𝒐𝒗𝒆,@rogla pic.twitter.com/ZfWLnWrWxS

— Team Jumbo-Visma cycling (@JumboVismaRoad) December 22, 2022

With new signing Wilco Kelderman as co-leader the Giro startlist is growing stronger by the day…

The Giro is shaping up OK to be fair. Remco, Thomas, Rogla…

— Ned Boulting (@nedboulting) December 22, 2022

Add Jack Haig, Damiano Caruso, Aleksandr Vlasov, Thibaut Pinot and João Almeida to that list, with plenty more still to declare, and we’re already bursting with excitement for May…

22 December 2022, 09:05

One man who's not excited for the Giro...

Oh for f pic.twitter.com/h02DYP3njb

— Geraint Thomas (@geraintthomas) December 22, 2022

22 December 2022, 09:05

But why does he do it?

Cheers to brooksby in the comments for the heads-up on this one…

Got arrested Friday and charged with Crim Mischief for removing a piece of plastic obscuring plate number meanwhile cops refused to issue ticket to this guy despite obscuring front and back plates @defacedplateNYC @NYCMayor pic.twitter.com/Hok8ptX7YG

— adam white (@adamlaw50) November 14, 2022

Gersh started making videos of his number plate clearing after the arrest of a lawyer and safe-streets advocate, Adam White, who was charged with criminal mischief after removing an object covering an SUV driver’s number plate.

A Brooklyn Council member, Shahana Hanif, then stepped in, saying she was “deeply disturbed” by the arrest and called it “police misconduct”.

I am deeply disturbed to hear of the @NYPD78Pct‘s actions in this case. It is shocking how the NYPD continues to prioritize unlawful and reckless car owners while harassing cyclists and pedestrians at every opportunity. We need accountability. https://t.co/DGsyJ3avWf

— Council Member Shahana Hanif (@CMShahanaHanif) November 15, 2022

“It is shocking how the NYPD continues to prioritise unlawful and reckless car owners while harassing cyclists and pedestrians at every opportunity,” she said. “We need accountability. Adam is a Good Samaritan whose actions to hold a reckless driver accountable left him in handcuffs. This is police misconduct, plain and simple.”

The full story has been covered at length on Kuntzman’s Streetsblog site:

> Cops arrest famed bike lawyer for fixing a driver’s obscured plate 

> Brooklyn Council member blasts cops for arresting famed bike lawyer for fixing defaced plate

22 December 2022, 09:05

"It shows just how far car culture has gone when someone trying to stop people breaking the law (almost) gets taken to court": Reaction to our main blog story of the day

This is actually a VERY common problem in NY and for some reason little is done about it…

— Biological🍉 (@BioLogicalNerd) December 22, 2022

Plenty of comments on the New York number plate declutterer…

I’m always amazed by the amount of completely illegible number plates, obscured by mud and crud, that is the norm on motorways. Seemingly ignored by police too.

— cycletothesea (@cycletothesea) December 22, 2022

 ShutTheFrontDawes: “In what world is returning a car to a roadworthy condition considered ‘criminal mischief’ or vandalism? What sort of backwards moron would think that?”

AidanR: “I’ve done this too, removing a conveniently placed bit of tape from the number plate of a BMW SUV driven by a complete tool who likes to park outside our house. The car is of course not taxed or insured. They got clamped for it a few months ago, and took an angle grinder to the clamp and carried on with impunity.”

OldRidgeback: “My street is an LTN. Lots of people cover up their vehicle number plates and drive past the camera, then stop by my house to remove the bags or whatever they’ve used. Some forget about the covers and drive away. I’ve not seen any parked vehicles with covered up plates though.”

And commenting on the original case in NYC which saw the rider arrested… Daveyraveygravey: “This is actually depressing. It shows just how far car culture has gone when someone trying to stop people breaking the law (almost) gets taken to court.”

22 December 2022, 09:05

"I'll stop when they stop!": Public-spirited cyclist's one-man mission to remove convenient items covering car number plates

If you happen to be in New York and spot a bicycle helmet-wearing man crouching down by a car, scribbling something on a number plate, don’t be alarmed… this is not a bad guy but simply a well-meaning public-spirited member of the community making sure the owner of the vehicle doesn’t get in trouble for obscuring their number plate…

I caught this scofflaw on Bond Street — and I decided to go meta with my criminal mischief episode today! pic.twitter.com/MgumQ2M20H

— Gersh Kuntzman (@GershKuntzman) December 21, 2022

Occasionally the good deed needs to be repeated multiple times… I guess it can be hard to accept your medicine sometimes…

People are always asking me, “When will you stop doing CRIMINAL MISCHIEF?” And my answer is the same: I’ll stop when THEY stop! Here’s a new video that makes it clear — yes, I caught LEAF MAN again! pic.twitter.com/lU26nY01dn

— Gersh Kuntzman (@GershKuntzman) December 21, 2022

 Others bring their own leaves…

THIRD TIME’S THE HARM for this Jersey jerk with the looong record of reckless driving — he’s now a 3-time victim of my CRIMINAL MISCHIEF. Watch me remove (again!) the leaf conveniently covering the last letter on his Garden State plate. Why won’t @NYPD5Pct bust this guy? pic.twitter.com/Pv9WuZ9flV

— Gersh Kuntzman (@GershKuntzman) December 20, 2022

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Dan was the road.cc news editor from 2022-2026. He joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan mainly wrote news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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  1. brooksby
    December 22, 2022 at 9:39 am
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    I read an article about that

    I read an article about that guy on StreetsblogNYC – he removed a piece of plastic that just happened to be blocking part of a number plate, and the owner turned up and phoned the police on him (criminal damage).  Despite explaining what he had done (no damage, just being helpful) the police arrested him and prosecuted him, and it got all the way to the day before his day in court for the NY district attorney office to decide that it wasn’t in the public interest to put him in court…

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    • Boopop
      December 22, 2022 at 10:16 am
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      I’ve seen plenty of evidence

      I’ve seen plenty of evidence that NYC governence is pretty corrupt, just look at how Louis Rossman’s business has essentially been chased out of the city on jumped up fines just to fill the local government’s coffers. The police department don’t seem much better so it doesn’t surprise me they’d treat this good samaritan with disdain.

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      • wycombewheeler
        December 22, 2022 at 11:05 am
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        Boopop wrote:

        I’ve seen plenty of evidence that NYC governence is pretty corrupt, just look at how Louis Rossman’s business has essentially been chased out of the city on jumped up fines just to fill the local government’s coffers. The police department don’t seem much better so it doesn’t surprise me they’d treat this good samaritan with disdain.

        — Boopop

        Makes me wonder if the police tend to cover their own personal number plates, that they are more inclined to take action against someone rectifying an offence, than the person comitting the offence.

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        • brooksby
          December 22, 2022 at 11:09 am
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          If you ever read Streetsblog,

          If you ever read Streetsblog, that’s taken as kind of first principles.  They (appear to) have a lot of trouble with city employees misusing ‘parking placards’ that seem to act like our blue badges (park pretty much anywhere) and blocking off plate numbers, and parking on footways, etc etc etc etc…

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      • Tom_77
        December 22, 2022 at 3:05 pm
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        Boopop wrote:

        I’ve seen plenty of evidence that NYC governence is pretty corrupt

        — Boopop

        The NYPD union gives officers “get out of jail free” passes for family and friends

         

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    • Daveyraveygravey
      December 22, 2022 at 1:31 pm
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      brooksby wrote:

      I read an article about that guy on StreetsblogNYC – he removed a piece of plastic that just happened to be blocking part of a number plate, and the owner turned up and phoned the police on him (criminal damage).  Despite explaining what he had done (no damage, just being helpful) the police arrested him and prosecuted him, and it got all the way to the day before his day in court for the NY district attorney office to decide that it wasn’t in the public interest to put him in court…

      — brooksby

      This is actually depressing.  It shows just how far car culture has gone when someone trying to stop people breaking the law (almost) gets taken to court.

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      • brooksby
        December 22, 2022 at 2:08 pm
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        I think that the general

        I think that the general consensus was that the driver was a friend or relation of someone in the local NYPD precinct…

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      • wtjs
        December 22, 2022 at 2:18 pm
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        It shows just how far car

        It shows just how far car culture has gone when someone trying to stop people breaking the law (almost) gets taken to court

        Hope Lancashire Constabulary doesn’t hear of this dodge, or I’ll be receiving summonses by the van-load for maliciously reporting ‘absence of MOT’

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        • SimoninSpalding
          December 22, 2022 at 3:03 pm
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          If you do maybe top motoring

          If you do maybe top motoring lawyer and road safety campaigner Nick Freeman will represent you pro bono?

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  2. DrG82
    December 22, 2022 at 10:15 am
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    You see this crap all the
    You see this crap all the time, it would be so simple to bust they people i just can’t understand why they don’t jump on it.

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  3. AidanR
    December 22, 2022 at 10:40 am
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    I’ve done this too, removing
    I’ve done this too, removing a conveniently placed bit of tape from the number plate of a BMW SUV driven by a complete tool who likes to park outside our house.

    The car is of course not taxed or insured. They got clamped for it a few months ago, and took an angle grinder to the clamp and carried on with impunity.

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    • chrisonabike
      December 22, 2022 at 11:11 am
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      Sounds like they’re worried
      Sounds like they’re worried about their privacy. You could help out by covering their windscreen with tape to preserve their anonymity.

      Sadly this might not stop them driving…

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      • brooksby
        December 22, 2022 at 11:16 am
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        With the Streetsblog story,

        With the Streetsblog story, IIRC the person who actually called the NYPD on the bloke removing the illegal covering from their number plate remains officially anonymous to this very day…  Not suspicious at all.

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        • chrisonabike
          December 22, 2022 at 11:33 am
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          No idea what the NYC police
          No idea what the NYC police are for but the little I’ve read suggests that hassling cyclists and finding excuses for motorists who kill cyclists and pedestrians are definitely on their to-do lists.

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          • ChrisB200SX
            December 22, 2022 at 2:56 pm
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            chrisonatrike wrote:

            No idea what the NYC police are for but the little I’ve read suggests that hassling cyclists and finding excuses for motorists who kill cyclists and pedestrians are definitely on their to-do lists.

            — chrisonatrike

            NYPD is/was the biggest gang in USA according to some documentaries.

      • NOtotheEU
        December 22, 2022 at 1:56 pm
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        chrisonatrike wrote:

        Sounds like they’re worried about their privacy. You could help out by covering their windscreen with tape to preserve their anonymity. Sadly this might not stop them driving…

        — chrisonatrike

        You’re right, as shown every time it snows and they drive around looking through a tiny hole they have cleared.

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    • OldRidgeback
      December 22, 2022 at 11:27 am
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      My street is an LTN. Lots of

      My street is an LTN. Lots of people cover up their vehicle number plates and drive past the camera, then stop by my house to remove the bags or whatever they’ve used. Some forget about the covers and drive away. I’ve not seen any parked vehicles with covered up plates though.

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    • Seagull2
      December 22, 2022 at 11:52 am
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      it would be a shame if one of

      it would be a shame if one of his tyres lost all its air  

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      • AidanR
        December 22, 2022 at 2:26 pm
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        I value the windows of my
        I value the windows of my house.

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  4. PRSboy
    December 22, 2022 at 12:15 pm
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    Interesting opening TDF stage

    Interesting opening TDF stage… GC contenders are going to have to show their hands early.

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    • SimoninSpalding
      December 22, 2022 at 3:09 pm
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      I see they aren’t planning to

      I see they aren’t planning to recognise Mario Cippollini’s contribution to the tour by having a week of flat stages at the start.

      In some ways he contributed to the TdF we have today by taking a fine everyday he was in yellow because he wore matching shorts, not the team issue or black which were the only permitted options at the time.

      Of course he is a convicted criminal now, but that hardly makes him unique…

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      • ktache
        December 22, 2022 at 7:34 pm
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        But when that Saeco train got

        But when that Saeco train got going it was a joy to behold.

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  5. ShutTheFrontDawes
    December 22, 2022 at 12:30 pm
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    In what world is returning a
    In what world is returning a car to a roadworthy condition considered ‘criminal mischief’ or vandalism? What sort of backwards moron would think that?

    If it is, you’d have to haul in pretty much all car repair/maintenance companies. Kwik-fit would be safe though.

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    • chrisonabike
      December 22, 2022 at 1:35 pm
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      It’s “touch my motor I swear
      It’s “touch my motor I swear I’ll do time ?” isn’t it?

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      • ChrisB200SX
        December 22, 2022 at 2:55 pm
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        chrisonatrike wrote:

        It’s “touch my motor I swear I’ll do time ?” isn’t it?

        — chrisonatrike

        But it’s fixing your broken number plate, so I don’t really get that mentality.

        I was once pulled over by the police for a broken front number plate (it was fine when I left barely 2 minutes earlier), was my parents’ car but I had to get the number plate fixed an prove it at an MOT station within 7 days.

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  6. the little onion
    December 22, 2022 at 12:33 pm
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    Will the Saudi’s be

    Will the Saudi’s be sponsoring the women’s team as well as the men’s team? Could be interesting….

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    • Dan Alexander
      December 22, 2022 at 1:17 pm
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      Apparently so ?…

      Apparently so ?…

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      • SimoninSpalding
        December 22, 2022 at 3:10 pm
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        Have we seen the redesigned

        Have we seen the redesigned kit for the women’s team yet?

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      • brooksby
        December 23, 2022 at 10:18 am
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        The women’s team the women’s

        The women’s team just won’t actually be allowed to ride solo bikes: they’ll have to ride tandems with a male relative as stoker… 😉

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        • ShutTheFrontDawes
          December 23, 2022 at 3:01 pm
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          brooksby wrote:

          The women’s team just won’t actually be allowed to ride solo bikes: they’ll have to ride tandems with a male relative as stoker… 😉

          — brooksby

          Ha! As if they’d let a woman steer! You’ll be suggesting that they let women decide where to go next!

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          • Hirsute
            December 23, 2022 at 4:34 pm
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            The Taliban tandem?
            The Taliban tandem?

    • IanMK
      December 23, 2022 at 8:19 am
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      I’m sure that the women’s
      I’m sure that the women’s team are already planning their training camp in the region, so that they too can encourage young women in the local community to take up an active lifestyle.

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  7. Hirsute
    December 22, 2022 at 2:13 pm
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     I see rail prices will go up

     I see rail prices will go up 5.9%

    What is the betting that fuel duty will be frozen again ?

     

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    • eburtthebike
      December 22, 2022 at 5:08 pm
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      hirsute wrote:

       I see rail prices will go up 5.9%

      What is the betting that fuel duty will be frozen again ?

      — hirsute

      Of course it will.  Fuel duty is a tax on hardworking drivers, while rail passengers are clearly idle spongers.

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      • Simon E
        December 22, 2022 at 8:17 pm
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        eburtthebike wrote:

        Fuel duty is a tax on hardworking drivers, while rail passengers are clearly idle spongers.

        — eburtthebikeTrain passengers, like bus passengers, don’t have much choice, so are an easy target.

        They are also unlikely to do a go-slow / blockade along main roads or other similarly obstructive demonstration (nd those who do that won’t be arrested and put in prison, unlike peaceful JSO road-sitters, they will instead get a round of applause* and a further 5p off a litre of fuel). Look how the gaps widen as the profits grow:

        https://www.racfoundation.org/data/cost-of-transport-index

        * not to be confused with the doorstep clapping for NHS and other key workers during the pandemic, keenly embraced by hypocritical, selfish Tory voters who gleefully put the current bunch of c**ts back in government; the latter’s scornful attitude to those same workers alongside penniless immigrants and environmental protestors says all you need to know about them.

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    • ktache
      December 22, 2022 at 7:32 pm
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      I was prepared for over 9%,

      I was prepared for over 9%, should have been around 13%.

      But of course if it were the rail workers would have put in a perfectly legitimate claim for the 9+% or 13ish%, as is they will demand 5.9%.

      They have delayed the announcement for many months.

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      • ShutTheFrontDawes
        December 22, 2022 at 8:21 pm
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        ktache wrote:

        I was prepared for over 9%, should have been around 13%.

        But of course if it were the rail workers would have put in a perfectly legitimate claim for the 9+% or 13ish%, as is they will demand 5.9%.

        They have delayed the announcement for many months.

        — ktache

        Indeed. If only they applied the same formula to public sector salaries as they do for rail fares, the NHS wouldn’t be on strike.

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        • NOtotheEU
          December 22, 2022 at 10:12 pm
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          ShutTheFrontDawes wrote:

          Indeed. If only they applied the same formula to public sector salaries as they do for rail fares, the NHS wouldn’t be on strike.

          — ShutTheFrontDawes

          Rail fair rises benefit the most important members of society, shareholders.

          Nurse pay rises only benefit nurses and we all know they offer nothing of consequence to society.

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          • ShutTheFrontDawes
            December 22, 2022 at 11:56 pm
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            NOtotheEU wrote:

            Nurse pay rises only benefit nurses and we all know they offer nothing of consequence to society.

            — NOtotheEU

            Except when they do offer something of consequence (e.g. COVID), at which point, you can pay them in claps and the odd poster stating “thank you NHS”. That oughta do it 😉

            Still, we’re so much better off now that we have left the EU and the poorly paid migrants no longer want to come or stay because they have no security. The poorly paid workers can be British. Awesome.

          • brooksby
            December 23, 2022 at 10:16 am
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            ShutTheFrontDawes wrote:

            Nurse pay rises only benefit nurses and we all know they offer nothing of consequence to society.

            — ShutTheFrontDawes Except when they do offer something of consequence (e.g. COVID), at which point, you can pay them in claps and the odd poster stating “thank you NHS”. That oughta do it 😉 Still, we’re so much better off now that we have left the EU and the poorly paid migrants no longer want to come or stay because they have no security. The poorly paid workers can be British. Awesome.— NOtotheEU

            What is the current exchange rate between hand-claps and the pound, anyway?

          • ShutTheFrontDawes
            December 23, 2022 at 2:46 pm
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            Not sure. People say that
            Not sure. People say that claps don’t put food on the table, but I paid in claps for bread once. I was stood at the till clapping for a LONG time before they asked me to leave.

  8. brooksby
    December 22, 2022 at 3:40 pm
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    Tesla behind eight-vehicle

    Tesla behind eight-vehicle crash was in ‘full self-driving’ mode, says driver

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/22/tesla-crash-full-self-driving-mode-san-francisco

    Hmm… 

    After the San Francisco accident, the driver told police the FSD software malfunctioned.

    The police report said the vehicle was traveling at 55mph when it shifted lane but braked abruptly, slowing the car to about 20mph. That led to another vehicle hitting the Tesla and a chain reaction of crashes, according to Reuters.

    However, police were unable to determine if the software was in operation or that the driver’s account was accurate. The report was made public after a records request.

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    • IanMSpencer
      December 22, 2022 at 3:48 pm
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      So technically he was in
      So technically he was in front.

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      • jh2727
        December 22, 2022 at 5:13 pm
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        IanMSpencer wrote:

        So technically he was in front.

        — IanMSpencer

        If by “technically” you mean “actually”. The Tesla or its driver may have been responsible for the first collision, if insufficient space was left for the following vehicle – but the rest of the pileup is on the other six drivers.

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        • IanMSpencer
          December 22, 2022 at 9:13 pm
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          Oh, I meant to write what I
          Oh, I meant to write what I wrote – sarcastic humour that using “actually” might not convey.

          Following cars to blame? Not necessarily. With a rapid lane change and braking the 2 second rule doesn’t apply and it is quite likely that cars ricochet across lanes, so it is quite possible that all the following involved cars are blameless. Just watch a typical bad drivers video on YouTube and you can see quite often vehicles get caught up in accidents where they have little option to evade a collision. That being said, a depressing number of American drivers seem to think that the driver’s seat is the ideal place for coffee and donuts. I was amazed by how many broken vehicles littered the hard shoulder after a heavy rain shower in Dallas when I was there some years ago.

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    • hawkinspeter
      December 22, 2022 at 3:55 pm
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      brooksby wrote:

      Tesla behind eight-vehicle crash was in ‘full self-driving’ mode, says driver

      https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/22/tesla-crash-full-self-driving-mode-san-francisco

      Hmm… 

      — brooksby

      How can they carry on selling it as “full self-driving” when it needs to be chaperoned by a driver that has to take over when the Tesla does something dumb/dangerous?

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        December 22, 2022 at 4:01 pm
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        Probably because Elon Musk is

        Probably because Elon Musk is a snake-oil salesman who regularly gets away with lying to the public (and his investors). He has been telling all and sundry his cars could drive on autopilot since he launched them. In 2018, he announced you should buy a tesla because you could use it as an auto-taxi whilst you were at home / in the office. 

        So of course his fanbois will use it like that. 

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        • hawkinspeter
          December 22, 2022 at 5:43 pm
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          AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

          Probably because Elon Musk is a snake-oil salesman who regularly gets away with lying to the public (and his investors). He has been telling all and sundry his cars could drive on autopilot since he launched them. In 2018, he announced you should buy a tesla because you could use it as an auto-taxi whilst you were at home / in the office. 

          So of course his fanbois will use it like that. 

          — AlsoSomniloquism

          I would expect consumer protection laws to have caught up with Tesla by now. It’s quite astonishing that the system is allowed to be used on public roads when it’s clearly not reliable.

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          • stonojnr
            December 22, 2022 at 6:43 pm
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            The unreliable bit is the
            The unreliable bit is the loose nut behind the wheel

          • brooksby
            December 23, 2022 at 10:13 am
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            I’m surprised that nobody has

            I’m surprised that nobody has picked up on the bit of the story tucked in quietly at the end: the police have been unable to determine whether the software had been running or if the driver was telling the truth. So, whilst I would normally be front of the queue for pitchfork and a flaming torch (especially in connection with Teslas) this one might (might!) be a case of a driver finding a new excuse as to why it wasn’t their fault…

          • hawkinspeter
            December 23, 2022 at 11:09 am
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            brooksby wrote:

            I’m surprised that nobody has picked up on the bit of the story tucked in quietly at the end: the police have been unable to determine whether the software had been running or if the driver was telling the truth. So, whilst I would normally be front of the queue for pitchfork and a flaming torch (especially in connection with Teslas) this one might (might!) be a case of a driver finding a new excuse as to why it wasn’t their fault…

            — brooksby

            The system should have recorded details in the lead up to the collision, so it should be clear. However, Tesla don’t seem to be very honest about their safety record and there’s some debate about the timing of when the FSD turns control over to the driver in the event of a collision. If Tesla claim that FSD wasn’t active (because it turned off a fraction of a second earlier), then is it fair to say that the driver caused it or the FSD?

            Edit: appropriate link https://www.motortrend.com/news/nhtsa-tesla-autopilot-investigation-shutoff-crash/

          • SimoninSpalding
            December 23, 2022 at 8:58 am
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            It is now a requirement of

            It is now a requirement of the system that you keep your hands on the wheel. But guess what happens if you take your hands off? It switches off leaving nobody in control.

            I have read road tests in the UK where the autonomous lane change system has been criticised for being inconsistent and unpredictable. A lot of other cars have similar features that seem to work much better, almost as if they had been properly developed and tested.

          • IanMSpencer
            December 23, 2022 at 10:18 am
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            There is probably a clue that
            There is probably a clue that Tesla keeps labelling updates as “beta”.

            Google does that a lot with its releases, but if search has a wobbly it is generally not life threatening (unless you are a Russian conscript trying to find out how to load the AK-47 you were given as they unloaded at the front line).

          • hawkinspeter
            December 23, 2022 at 10:26 am
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            IanMSpencer wrote:

            There is probably a clue that Tesla keeps labelling updates as “beta”. Google does that a lot with its releases, but if search has a wobbly it is generally not life threatening (unless you are a Russian conscript trying to find out how to load the AK-47 you were given as they unloaded at the front line).

            — IanMSpencer

            Beta releases don’t seem appropriate to public roads in my opinion unless they’re restricted to particular areas or speed limits (e.g. testing at 20mph would seem reasonable if there’s no issues found in closed road testing).

  9. brooksby
    December 22, 2022 at 4:23 pm
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    So will the Giro start in

    So will the Giro start in France?

    The Vuelta start in Finland?

    The Tour de Yorkshire commence in Lancashire…?

    Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!

    Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes…

    The dead rising from the grave!

    Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… MASS HYSTERIA!

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    Cyclist mugged in St Anne’s

    Cyclist mugged in St Anne’s by men with machete in terrifying attack

    https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/cyclist-mugged-st-annes-men-7960036

    The incident happened at around 4.50pm on Tuesday, December 20. A man was riding his bicycle along the riverside path behind the Co-op store on Wyatts View in St Annes [Bristol], when a masked man stepped out in front of him, grabbed the handlebars and demanded the bike.

    …

    “Detectives are keen to hear from anyone who was on the path at around that time, especially two other dog walkers, both men, who left before officers arrived. They are also keen to hear from anyone who has dashcam, doorbell or helmet camera footage which could help, or also anyone who has found or seen the stolen yellow Carrera Vengeance bicycle or black Apple iPhone 13,” she added.

    “If you have any information which could help, please call 101 and give the reference 5222303422. Alternatively contact the independent charity Crimestoppers 100 per cent anonymously by calling 0800 555 111, or online at https://crimestoppers-uk.org/give-information,”

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mikeclarke 3 hours ago

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wtjs 5 hours ago

@chrisonabike ...have impersonated Dutch bike shop owners, people with disabilities, and possibly different genders / sexualities. And have gone from broken English to perfect fluency in a week or so Only a few of us remember those hilariously inept impersonations!

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chrisonabike 6 hours ago

@belugabob Unfortunately going down this route is likely to be a missed opportunity. "Safer streets" can be done in a way that allows access to a virtuous circle with whole suite of benefits. But ... that would mean following something like in NL. So "sustainable safety" - a different philosophy of transport, plus gradual infra and organisational changes over decades. Generally opportunities for concentrations of money beat that. So it looks like we'll get "probably safer on average" but with who knows what side effects, while concentrating insane amounts of power (money) in the hands of a very few. And those will be effectively unaccountable, being almost all overseas, and not having to live in the same streets as their products (they may be flying)...

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chrisonabike 6 hours ago

@Fursty Ferret "...regulator" That should be little comfort, because during previous scandals it became clear that in many cases the regulators were easily hoodwinked, or (especially US) they rely on the companies themselves to mark their own homework. (And in the case of SUVs/light trucks, I heard the US government has been hard a-lobbying the likes of Europe and the UK for "reciprocal recognition" e.g. to accept their product as is without further checks). Needing the makers to help / do the checks is even more likely given the complexity of self-driving vehicles. I suspect self-driving vehicles will likely soon be safer on average than human drivers (a low bar). Of course I think other potential consequences are also a matter of concern (not least - in *theory* humans can be held accountable, but holding humans in large companies accountable for their tech is a *lot* harder)...

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@mdavidford Could make that shorter - "we’re letting too many people drive" * I would bet to a first approximation the "damage" could be predicted by number of humans times time driven. Most effective way to fix that - without the UK's "just get rid of the vulnerable road users" - is to remove the motorists, to padded individual lanes, far away from vulnerable road users. Though they'll still crash (and into each other). * Should be "we have incentivised people so that most of them see 'driving' as the solution to most of their transport needs, as well as being part of their status as adults, and we could usefully change that *and* it would also improve health, the economy, the environment..."

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@This Wreckage The other point is the observation that efforts to fix the transport systems which reduce motoring convenience almost always meet with very noisy opposition. But when a lot of motor (through) traffic has been removed it turns out that people don't want to go back. They don't all necessarily say how much nicer it is or connect that to the lack of motor traffic. But this experiment has been run in many different localities in different countries and the results seem to hold. Caveats as usual - it's always possible for authorities to bungle things terribly - or even deliberately mess things up with ulterior motives. And people have to have enough time to adapt to the new situation, which is probably nearer a year or two.

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@This Wreckage And yet - in the poorest parts of where I stay (Edinburgh) it's not uncommon to see bikes with flat tyres rusting in the closes of flats, or on balconies, and they aren't all kids' bikes... I do agree that storage is an issue. IIRC some places (Edinburgh now) are starting to bring in guidance on having some cycle storage for new flats. Nothing like NL though where for decades it's been a part of the building regulations. I think most people who don't own a bike have simply never considered owning a bike as adults, because they're not "cyclists" (e.g. not practicing a sport) and transport cycling isn't "a thing" for most people in the UK currently.

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