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"What hope do we have if the police don't even know the laws?": Ex-pro cyclist Phil Gaimon wins in court over two-abreast riding 'offence'; Cycling group slams "unsafe, unacceptable and substandard" shared-use path plan + more on the live blog

Dan Alexander is back on live blog duty with all your updates, news, reaction and silliness from the world of cycling this Thursday

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22 August 2024, 16:08
"What hope do we have if the police don't even know the laws?": Ex-pro cyclist Phil Gaimon wins in court over two-abreast riding 'offence'

Former pro cyclist-turned-YouTube KOM hunter Phil Gaimon has documented a bizarre experience that saw him pulled over by a police officer in California for riding two-abreast on an empty climb. Thankfully, the former Garmin Sharp rider went all the way to court to contest the ticket he received from the very confident officer who was keen to stress at the roadside that he would be in court... only to not show up on the day, two months later.

Just like here in the UK, there is no law against riding two-abreast in California, Gaimon taking issue with the police officer's warning and questionable legal interpretation.

"What hope do we have if the police don't even know the laws," Gaimon said. "So he's on his motorcycle next to me saying 'it's against the law to ride side by side' and I say: 'I'm sorry officer, that's not the law'.

"I appreciate police in general, it's a sacred thing to put yourself in harm's way to protect others [...] I don't want to be the guy who pulls out a camera when the cop stops him, I don't want to deal with this, I don't want a ticket, I don't want to go to court, I don't want the rage clicks this video's going to get, but he said a lot of weird stuff. At one point he offered to take his vest off, it was bizarre and super uncomfortable."

Phil Gaimon goes to court over two-abreast 'offence' (YouTube/Phil Gaimon)

Things continued when the officer told Gaimon and his ride partner he should ride single file because otherwise drivers will hit him and that will be his [Gaimon's] fault.

"I don't want to go to the internet and embarrass a public servant, but if you're going to insist on it... fine," Gaimon continued, explaining how in the whole seven-minute stop only two vehicles passed. "So this is a traffic stop for a not law to hypothetically remove a short inconvenience for two people. Finally he did find the code and I was like 'oh good, this is over' but then he chose a very bizarre interpretation that would make him still right."

With guidance from Bike Legal, Gaimon went to court and built up plenty of potential evidence and questions to take for his hearing, ultimately all completely unnecessary when the very confident officer surprisingly decided not to show...

"Congratulations to me, I won," Gaimon concluded. " I don't feel victorious whatsoever... what have I won? I don't have to pay the ticket, I lost two days of my life going to court. Imagine if I was a person who had to take two days off work or couldn't afford to pay the ticket? Either way it's going to cost you, so I won the case but ultimately this was the punishment."

22 August 2024, 16:43
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22 August 2024, 15:02
"An error in judgement": Police apologise for "dangerous" high speed close pass on cyclist during emergency response, which "dropped below standards expected"
22 August 2024, 14:20
UK cycling sector launches e-bike battery education campaign
E-Bike Positive campaign

 The UK cycling sector, including industry trade bodies, leading e-bike brands, local bike shops and national charities, has announced a national campaign to boost electric bike safety knowledge and inform more people of the benefits of e-bikes.

Research by the Electric Bike Association found that concerns over battery fires are putting people off e-bikes, with 23 per cent of UK adults surveyed saying they are hesitant to buy an e-bike after reading about fire incidents, most of which are caused by defective and low-quality products such as aftermarket lithium-ion batteries, charges and conversion kits from non-reputable sources.

> Brompton boss urges crackdown on "poor quality" e-bike batteries before public perception "snowballs into a world of fear"

Launching today, the E-Bike Positive campaign hopes to share the positive effects of e-bikes and "equip the UK public to buy safe, charge safe and ride safe on e-bikes". As well as advising the government on how to better protect UK consumers and businesses, the E-Bike Positive campaign also pledges to help people identify high-quality, legal e-bike products through free resources including: 

  • Expert support - 100+ expert local bike shops have already pledged to advertise, sell and repair only UK legal and safety-checked e-cycles.
  • Educational resources - battery safety guides, resources and independent advice for shoppers, cyclists, e-bike sellers and media.
  • Extra assurance - the e-bike industry is developing a new scheme to highlight reputable, high-quality brands who thoroughly safety-test their e-cycles and batteries.

Sarah McMonagle, Director of External Affairs, Cycling UK, said: "Like traditional pedal cycles, e-cycles boost physical and mental health, improve air quality, and reduce carbon emissions. They're a great option for people who cycle in a hilly area, experience mobility challenges, carry children or shopping, or simply don’t want to get sweaty on their commute.

"When purchased from reputable manufacturers e-cycles are very safe. That's why we're supporting this education campaign alongside Cycling UK's ongoing calls for the UK government to make e-cycles more accessible."

Our sister site ebiketips will have more on this...

22 August 2024, 13:55
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22 August 2024, 12:19
The most bizarre start to a Grand Tour stage ever? Vuelta a España peloton rolls out of Carrefour supermarket

The much-anticipated Carrefour stage has finally arrived and boy did it deliver...

It was all a celebration of the supermarket brand's 12-year involvement with the race, the Jerez store seeing 170 pro cyclists roll through its checkout area and out onto a 185km route to Yunquera which looks set to be a day for the breakaway. 

22 August 2024, 12:15
"It will completely destroy everything": Pub owner claims controversial cycle lane construction is costing her business "ÂŁ5,000 a week", month after bike lane also blamed for "awful" chippy's demise
22 August 2024, 10:35
Dutch Cyclists' Union expresses concerns over rise of shared-use paths in Amsterdam

It's not just in Norfolk where cycling campaign groups are raising concerns over shared-use infrastructure...

Amsterdam stock photo

According to Florrie de Pater of the Amsterdam Cyclists' Union there has been an increase in spaces being made shared-use, such as the passage under the Rijksmuseum.

"Things are made more difficult for cyclists everywhere by those shared spaces. In the city centre, for example, the route from east to west is almost impossible. A few alleys that used to be very accessible for cyclists are almost closed off. The Damstraat is almost impossible to get through and more and more alleys — look at the nine streets, for example — are more or less closed off for cyclists," she told AT5.

"Shared space is fine, but not on the main cycling network. I have to say that tourists seem to determine these days — especially in the centre of Amsterdam — where cyclists are allowed to ride. So the policy is tailored to where most tourists are."

The local authority responded to the Rijksmuseum tunnel concerns by suggesting it would look to see how it could clarify the shared-use space. It's nice to know even in Amsterdam things aren't perfect...

22 August 2024, 10:22
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22 August 2024, 10:02
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22 August 2024, 09:53
Devon and Cornwall Police add 39 e-bikes to fleet as officers impressed by "faster, quieter patrols" and the "wellbeing benefits of being active and outside"
Devon and Cornwall Police e-bikes

Devon and Cornwall Police have launched an electric bike project following a "successful pilot". The force said there are now 39 e-bikes in use across Camborne, Plymouth, Penzance, Exeter, Bodmin, Cullompton, Falmouth, Truro Launceston, Hayle and Helston, with officers reporting less pressure on the force's vehicle fleet as a result, reduced car dependency, "faster, quieter patrols" and a host of "wellbeing benefits".

Superintendent Ian Thompson said: "The electric bikes initiative is boosting the ability of our neighbourhood teams to engage with and be visible in their communities, whilst allowing them to be in places that do not always have a police presence. In turn, this is taking the pressure off our vehicle fleet and allowing us to be less reliant on cars and reduce our carbon footprint.

"The feedback from officers is extremely positive, who realise the benefits of faster, quieter patrols and the wellbeing benefits of being active and outside. We are expanding the fleet of electric bikes to other areas of the force and hope soon that all Neighbourhood Teams in Devon and Cornwall will have access to them for use within their normal duties. Currently, there are 89 neighbourhood officers and PCSOs who have been trained so far, with opportunities to train more officers in the coming months."

The force added: "In just a day, one officer covered 71 kilometres using an e-bike and received positive feedback from the community. Work is underway to purchase additional e-bikes and deploy them to more sites around Devon and Cornwall."

22 August 2024, 09:50
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22 August 2024, 09:30
Cycling group slams "unsafe, unacceptable and substandard" shared-use path plan that should be "transformative" but is "not fit for purpose"

Norfolk County Council is seeking feedback on plans to extend a "cycle-friendly" route known as "the Yellow Pedalway" using ÂŁ1.9m of funding from the the Department for Transport, Greater Norwich Growth Board's Infrastructure Investment Fund, and Norfolk County Council's Local Transport Plan.

In its current layout the route relies on shared-use infrastructure, something that will remain, the council wanting to add a new crossing, a speed limit extension, extra bus stops and an "expansion" of the "Pedalway", the Eastern Daily Press reports. The plans have not gone down well with the Norwich Cycling Campaign, whose chairman Peter Silburn said he was "shocked" by the "unsafe, unacceptable and substandard" proposals that are "not fit for purpose".

"We were shocked when we saw this scheme go out to consultation," he told the local newspaper, saying shared-use infrastructure should only be a "last resort". "Poor quality schemes like this fail to get more people onto their bikes. To get more people cycling we need proper infrastructure built to the national design standards that provide safe, direct and convenient routes. This isn't one of them.

"This is an unacceptable scheme that is unsafe and substandard and we cannot support this as designed."

Norfolk County Council's spokesperson responded: "These proposals were developed in discussion with Active Travel England. We have now written to properties in the project area and contacted a range of stakeholders and interest groups inviting them to share their views. We have taken on board the feedback received from Norwich Cycling Campaign and will consider this as a whole, alongside all the other responses collected by the consultation deadline."

The consultation closes on Monday 26 August.

22 August 2024, 08:40
Valtteri Bottas says "refreshing" cycling "more fair" than Formula One as you don't need best bike to win
22 August 2024, 07:53
"Given a choice, many people would cycle if it was safer": Cyclist mythbusts common excuses of people claiming bike journeys aren't for them

Let's kick off Thursday with a good old social media discussion, live blog regular Bob From Accounts urging new Transport Secretary Louise Haigh to build more cycle lanes to increase safety and get more people on their bikes. The signs look good on that front, Haigh this week suggesting the Labour government would invest "unprecedented levels of funding" in cycling.

Cyclists and pedestrians in Castle Park, Bristol (image: Adwitiya Pal)

Bob From Accounts also addressed a commonly heard line... "cycling isn't a practical daily travel choice for most people", something you've probably read before online, or in certain newspapers. To which, he pointed out: "In 2022, 26 per cent of car trips in the UK were under one mile, and 71 per cent under five miles. Five miles by bike is approximately 30 minutes. Given a choice, many people would cycle if it was safer. More cycle lanes please."

"And for the usual excuses and quips about 'It's too cold', 'It's too wet'. We have a solution: coats."

Well, it works for the Netherlands and they get their fair share of rain... let's get some reaction because, as you probably guessed, this got quite a few people all riled up and tapping away furiously at their keyboards. To many of those people, no, nobody is saying that everyone in the world should be forced onto bikes... but hey, wouldn't the roads be much nicer for those who actually do need to drive if a decent chunk of the motor traffic was now using cycle lanes, walking or using public transport?

Cyclist in London with face covering in cycle lane - copyright Simon MacMichael

One reply asked: "How do I get a week's worth of shopping on a bike? What about two kids as well? One being a toddler?"

Bob From Accounts had an answer for that...

Cargo bike comment (Twitter)

Another road.cc favourite, retired traffic cop Mark Hodson, who pioneered close pass operations during his career commented: "My shift once had 10 of its 12 officers cycling to work, the daily total commutes varied between 22 miles and 56 miles, with some extending rides to incorporate training routines, it's a case of making it work and providing the correct facilities so those that [people] 'could' give it a go."

Accepting that his experience was certainly at the extreme end of the spectrum and included several who would cycle for sport or leisure on top of commutes, Mark added: "Not everyone can or wants to, but if you enable those who can and want to you benefit all of society. Even if they just replace 25 per cent of their usual journeys by other means it's a hugely impactive for them and their communities.

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Other reaction to the discussion included:

"Cargo bikes are an increasingly viable alternative for a second car that's mostly doing school runs etc."

"We have fantastic cycling routes where I live... currently massively overgrown. We need proper investment to make it work in the future."

"I used to leave my house 7am every day to catch the bus to work arrived 7.50 am. By bike 7.10am to arrive for 7.30 time for a cuppa and a chat before work. The ride home takes five to 10 mins longer... I lived on top of a hill."

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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Cayo | 3 months ago
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As I made the post so late last night I forgot add how sad, and disturbing, it is to see that the most common vehicle on American roads is the Ford F150, a blooming great big pickup truck! I know there are obviously swathes of the country which are entirely rural farmland etc, but even then... Of course, having seen many commercials for it, and similar vehicles, on US TV, it's at least 50% marketed towards those who never set foot on a farm - the USA's Range Rover.

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chrisonabike replied to Cayo | 3 months ago
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I like a couple of Notjustbike's phrases from his excellent extended rant: they are designed for "transporting fragile egos" - "people have been upsold on these vehicles by auto makers looking to skirt regulations to make higher profits" and the shiny new flatbeds are mostly "status symbols for suburbanites with a cargo fetish".

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eburtthebike replied to Cayo | 3 months ago
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Adapting my slogan for Range Rovers:

                               "Only got four inches?  Get an F150."

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brooksby replied to eburtthebike | 3 months ago
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(edit) Ah, right, I get it now...

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Cayo replied to brooksby | 3 months ago
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brooksby wrote:

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(edit) Ah, right, I get it now...

Bet you feel a right **** for not getting it straight away! 😜

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brooksby replied to Cayo | 3 months ago
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Cayo wrote:
brooksby wrote:

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(edit) Ah, right, I get it now...

Bet you feel a right **** for not getting it straight away! 😜

Little bit, yeah...

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bikes | 3 months ago
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Great video by Phil Gaimon. "If you're riding two abreast and someone drives into the back of you, then it's your fault", that's all you need to know about the motorbike cop.

Also interesting to see that the California passing distance is only 3 feet compared to the UK's much more sensible 1.5m. I suppose the real difference though is in which place actually enforces it.

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Steve K replied to bikes | 3 months ago
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bikes wrote:

Great video by Phil Gaimon. "If you're riding two abreast and someone drives into the back of you, then it's your fault", that's all you need to know about the motorbike cop. Also interesting to see that the California passing distance is only 3 feet compared to the UK's much more sensible 1.5m. I suppose the real difference though is in which place actually enforces it.

Also that the "vehicle code" says you have to cycle as far to the right as practicable.

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bikes replied to Steve K | 3 months ago
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Surely a poorly worded rule. As if you're doing it wrong unless you're riding in the gutter. A rule written by the motoring lobby?

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chrisonabike | 3 months ago
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No doubt this will be popping up today (maybe missed it previously): Wales 20s plenty ruins cycle race - because apparently it's not safe because vehicles have to slow down (the support vehicles can't keep up / would get in the way presumably).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4glzl7e157o

Richard Hopkins, the race organiser wrote:

A Welsh government scheme designed to enable cycle races to manage race and public safety through 20mph zones has failed, leaving us with a major problem.

Even though there was only seven miles of 20mph across the whole 237-mile, four-day race, and even then split into a number of very short sections, we couldn't guarantee to manage all of them safely.

*Failed* ... (road racing - it's not about the *bike* ...)

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Cayo | 3 months ago
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This "micro asphalt" as I've seen Edinburgh Council call it, isn't fit for purpose. When it was first proposed by tthe Council a few years ago, I contacted them and warned them that it had failed elsewhere and wouldn't last "several years" as they were claiming. They still went ahead and it needed remedial work within a week. Not only that, but the contractors had covered a couple of drain grills in the process!

Within a few weeks, the surface was breaking up through to the previous surface (as it is merely an additional layer, not a true resurfacing process) and often more dangerous to cye on than before the work was carried out, with the added 'bonus' of loose chips hurtling onto your legs, arms and eyewear (if you're wise enough to wear it).

Everywhere I have seen it since then around the city, the results have been the same - instead of 'several years' of good surface, it's a week of loose gravel followed by holes everywhere.

And now a similar process seems to be popular on the pavements. What looks like a rough surface to be covered with a layer of traditional asphalt and red chips is apparently the finished surface, with similar results of the surface breaking up within days.

Cheap now, but surely expensive in the long run.

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Cayo | 3 months ago
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Devon and Cornwall Police obviously fans of Beyond Paradise then! 😁👼đŸšČ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HYbzOmZYyVU

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Cayo | 3 months ago
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I'm still rolling my eyes about the Carrefour stage start. Typical Vuelta craziness - was the car park not a suitable place to begin? Supermarket floors aren't exactly renowned for being the grippiest of surfaces. Thank goodness there was no need for a "cleanup in aisle nine" as a GC contender or two slipped at 5kmh!

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Cayo | 3 months ago
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Phil Gaimon's experience least shows that the UK isn't alone in poorly-worded rules of the road, and even more poorly-educated officers badly interpretating them. 🙄 He handled it all well by the looks of things and realised he was in a position of privilege compared to many others who might be similarly targeted. That particular officer should be ashamed that he's continuing to do the same thing after being educated by basically an ordinary member of the public. But maybe that's his problem... 😕

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brooksby replied to Cayo | 3 months ago
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You'll probably find that officer also thinks there's something in the US Constitution which allows nutters in buffalo hats to storm their Capitol
 

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john_smith replied to brooksby | 3 months ago
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I'm not convinced. He didn't shoot Mr Gaimon or even pull a gun on him. Indeed he remained quite civil throughout the episode, which doesn't excuse his ignorance but does suggest he might not be a true maga.

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brooksby replied to john_smith | 3 months ago
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john_smith wrote:

I'm not convinced. He didn't shoot Mr Gaimon or even pull a gun on him. Indeed he remained quite civil throughout the episode, which doesn't excuse his ignorance but does suggest he might not be a true maga.

<slaps forehead>  You're so right: mea culpa 

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chrisonabike replied to john_smith | 3 months ago
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TBF sounds like the last incident of shooting wasn't by a true MAGA either đŸ€”.

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DoomeFrog | 3 months ago
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I think a cycle-thru supermarket is a fantastic idea.  Mid ride lacking water or a bit of food, cycle into Sainsburys, scan and pack, ride out from the self serve till.

Saves getting off the bike, locking it up, sliding down the aisles in cleats and strava can keep on logging.  New segment? bakery to till.

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chrisonabike replied to DoomeFrog | 3 months ago
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Bakfiets or front rack, you don't even need a trolley!

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stonojnr | 3 months ago
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Given the road and the setting, don't see anything wrong with what Norfolk council have proposed there. Shared use paths are allowed in LTN1/20, and it looks to provide a decent joined up route.

Considering their neighbours in the South will spend 4 times as much on some paint, signs and delivering a fraction of usable cycle routes, I'd rather have the Norfolk scheme.

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chrisonabike replied to stonojnr | 3 months ago
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I'm still not quite sure the exact extent / intent of the scheme.  The comments from the local cycle campaign are here:

https://www.norwichcyclingcampaign.org/proposed-cycle-route-along-the-a1...

UK pragmatism - "we'll never get anything decent, so no point requesting it.  It's rare to get anything at all - and often what we get is delayed by years, ends up being reduced for cost reasons, is usually unhelpful to both experienced cyclists and those less 'fit and brave' and sometimes actively dangerous."

LTN1/20 isn't ideal because unfortunately any "minimum" will likely be the maximum and "where this is appropriate" means "pick the cheapest / least effort"!

In general shared use paths only "work" because of the very low levels of active travel in the UK.  Installing these is building in a very low level of ambition for active travel, and ensuring that if the numbers go up there will be increasing conflict between cyclists and pedestrians.  It's basically just saying "cycle on the footway" - e.g. "non-motorised modes, fight over the scraps".

Just ask "what is this for"?  If we don't have many journeys cycled, how is building "not very appealing / convenient" stuff going to create more?  If people are a bit grumpy about cyclists, how is putting cyclists "in their space" going to help advance the plot?  Do they do this in NL? (Yes - but only in the countryside / where there are few cyclists and very few pedestrians).

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HLaB replied to stonojnr | 3 months ago
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The crossing of the P&R car park worries me but on the whole in this location to provide a joined up route I don't see much wrong either, if its built to a good standard and not the adhoc converted footway that has happened too often in the past.

Edit: Looking at the link I'd be pushing for at least 3.5m and not 3.0m too.

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Tom_77 replied to stonojnr | 3 months ago
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stonojnr wrote:

Given the road and the setting, don't see anything wrong with what Norfolk council have proposed there. Shared use paths are allowed in LTN1/20, and it looks to provide a decent joined up route. Considering their neighbours in the South will spend 4 times as much on some paint, signs and delivering a fraction of usable cycle routes, I'd rather have the Norfolk scheme.

Shared Use only works if there are very few pedestrians. I don't know the area, but there are bus stops so it seems likely there will be some conflict between cyclists and pedestrians.

Possibly this is the best they can do with the space / money available. It's better than nothing - I think you'd have to be very brave to cycle or walk on the existing infrastructure.

 

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eburtthebike | 3 months ago
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"Given a choice, many people would cycle if it was safer"

One of the easiest ways of making it safer is to introduce an LTN, which was being discussed on LBC this morning, with a fact-equipped, calm, sensible advocate (John Burke) and an anecdote-equipped, excited, irrational denigrator (Ysenda Maxtone Graham) who incidentally happens to write for the Spectator, DM and Torygraph.  The interesting bit starts at 2:05:00, and the denigrator at 2:11:00, I thought she was going to explode. 

She speaks so fast it's difficult to understand, but highlights include "eerie enclaves of silence that are apparently quite dangerous for people to walk down" "taxis refusing to drop people off at their houses because they are terrified" "absolutely strangled" "appalling ridiculously slow pace"  "it's a money-making scheme they're raking in our fines" and there's lots more.

https://www.globalplayer.com/catchup/lbc/uk/episodes/BUpuBNW3ejA5RjdQcu1...

EDIT: I've just looked at the stuff she's written for the Spectator, and calling it drivel would be a compliment.

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john_smith | 3 months ago
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Cycling in NL can be pretty hellish in general. Walking is even worse.

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chrisonabike replied to john_smith | 3 months ago
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Wait 'till you find out how awful it is for drivers!

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john_smith replied to chrisonabike | 3 months ago
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I think driving there is generally pretty relaxed. If you want real fun, try walking from Amsterdam ZO to the city centre.

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chrisonabike replied to john_smith | 3 months ago
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Haven't tried that.  Last time I was there (almost a decade) I was in Zuidoost, so just used the metro.  Did try doing a bit of a stroll from there, no issues at all.  Apart from it was at night and I realised I was quite likely to stroll into some dubious areas, or just get lost.

The centre was a bit stressful the first time I was there but a) so are many city centres with a mass of tourists (New York anyone?) and b) I wasn't used to cars, buses, people walking AND trams and bikes.  It's just something you have to learn *.  Once I'd figured it out, it was fine - for a busy city.

I think the "predicability" principle of "sustainable safety" is what facilitates that.  And having "single function roads" e.g. not the UK's "it's a busy B-road, and also a residential street."

* If you're not used to it things like this probably seem like madness / chaos.  (I remember being baffled by the "everyone for themselves" anarchy of Thai city centres many years back, with buses, cars, many motorbikes and even the odd elephant all weaving paths through each other).  But (with some exceptions) the Dutch have a great road safety record given the number of "vulnerable road users" they've made it convenient for (and the fact that those cycling are of all ages).

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john_smith replied to chrisonabike | 3 months ago
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Walking in Zuidoost itself is fairly unproblematic (assuming you don't get shot), but as soon as you get out of it the footpaths tend simply to stop, which can be frustrating.

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