Tadej Pogačar crashes moments after Vingegaard’s ridiculous save (+ Jonas wins Stage 18); Confused Geraint Thomas (not the Ineos one) thanked by Pog; Police spot bike theft…during morning meeting; Froome DNF + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Very confused Geraint Thomas (not the Ineos one) thanked by Tadej Pogačar
Picture the scene: you’re called Geraint Thomas, but don’t possess the same Tour de France-winning abilities. You hop on Twitter in the early days and sign up as @geraintthomas (as you would), only to be bombarded by fans, haters and messages from pro riders each July…
— Geraint Thomas (@geraintthomas) July 20, 2022
Well, that’s exactly the position @geraintthomas, a lecturer in Visual Effects & Motion Graphics at the University of South Wales finds himself in annually. He even went viral back in 2018 when G won the race…
You’re welcome pic.twitter.com/Xs3i0OhROB
— Geraint Thomas (@GeraintThomas86) July 30, 2018
Now think how @tadejpogacar feels…
Happy to take another step closer to the podium today. This Tour is savage. Chapeau Jonas & @tadejpogacar you boys are flying 🎩 #TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/ihnwZnkkTZ
— Geraint Thomas (@GeraintThomas86) July 20, 2022
And (the real) Tadej returned the favour, thanking @geraintthomas, simultaneously blowing everyone’s minds and sending Cycling Twitter into meltdown. It’s tweetception…
But I’m n… oh never mind, you’re welcome. https://t.co/oR1mhmPaQ7
— Geraint Thomas (@geraintthomas) July 21, 2022
My brain…
— Geraint Thomas (@geraintthomas) July 21, 2022
And having written all of that we’ve just realised Pog tagged @gerainthomas, not @geraintthomas…THERE’S ANOTHER ONE…
Will the real Geraint Thomas please stand up?
When you are Geraint Thomas...but not THE Geraint Thomas...
My life. pic.twitter.com/c8TrLfckgW
— Geraint Thomas (@geraintthomas) July 20, 2022
One last Tour de France mountain showdown
It’s time for the toughest Pyrenean stage of this year’s race, the final chance for the main players to move up (or slide down) the GC in the mountains. After today we’ve got one long classic third week breakaway/sprint day, an individual time trial and the final day procession in Paris. If you want to make a move, it has to be today…
Or how the stage will look for polka dot jersey-wearing Simon Geschke…
POV – Stage 18 when you are Simon Geschke pic.twitter.com/9jcgFQFuK3
— Always bet the break (@BreakAlways) July 20, 2022
Will it be one for the breakaway? Will Thibaut Pinot finally get his win? Or will Tadej attack Jonas all the way up Hautacam? Danes in yellow have history up there…(road.cc Ryan: “I’m sure Jonas will be delighted with the comparison”)…check the replies to this tweet for more than a few questions about this post…
Michael Rasmussen and Bjarne Riis won on Aubisque/Hautacam wearing the Maillot Jaune. Tomorrow, Jonas Vingegaard will ride both these climbs in Yellow, another historic day for Danish cycling. 🇩🇰 #TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/h5YznBSeLt
— Mihai Simion (@faustocoppi60) July 20, 2022
Prediction time…
I’m saying another day for Tadej, but Jonas to keep yellow…
Philippe Gilbert announces retirement at the end of the season... and he's throwing one hell of a leaving do
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[📷 Unipublic: Graham Watson]
Philippe Gilbert is retiring at the end of the season, and is throwing a retirement party that only a five-time Monument winner and former world champ can. Phil’s Last Ride, on Saturday 15 October will include a “cycling tour for the general public”, presentation of “official tribute book” to be signed by the adoring masses and a farewell criterium… all based around the Cauberg climb where Gilbert dominated Amstel Gold Race and won his rainbow jersey.
Now that’s a send off…
Police spot bike theft outside...during morning meeting
Unusual briefing this morning…
As we were briefing a man decided to sneak into the back yard (watched by officers being briefed from the 2nd floor) and attempt to steal one of the chained pushbikes.
Probably not the best place to try and steal from 🤔
One in custody.
— CI John Owen (@NewcastleLPT) July 20, 2022
A man in Newcastle-under-Lyme, in Staffordshire, has been arrested after he attempted to steal a bike from council headquarters… only to be spotted mid-theft by police officers inside in their morning meeting.
A police spokesperson told the Stoke Sentinel: “Shortly before 9am this morning (20 July) officers at Castle House on Barracks Road in Newcastle-under-Lyme detained a man.
“A 41-year-old man of no fixed address was arrested on suspicion of attempted theft. He was later released under investigation pending further enquiries.”
A fierce Pyrenean summit finish to cap a brutal Tour de France
Today’s ascent up Hautacam is the last climbing challenge of @LeTour for the men. Riders will need to conquer the Col d’Aubisque and the Col de Spandelles before the final climb, which covers 13.41 km at an average incline of 7.74%. Follow along at: https://t.co/09B9vnCM82 pic.twitter.com/vGD2vSeJm9
— Strava (@Strava) July 21, 2022
Here’s the summit finish brought to life courtesy of the good people over at Strava. Yesterday’s winner Tadej Pogačar has uploaded his win to the ride-sharing app…
Chris Froome out of Tour de France with Covid
“Unfortunately I’ve got some pretty disappointing news to share this morning,” Froome said in a video message. “A test has revealed that I have contracted Covid so I’m not going to be taking the start today.
“I’m really disappointed not to be able to roll into Paris and finish off this Tour de France, it’s been an extremely special race for us as a team and me personally. I’ve really been finding my legs again and want to thank everyone for the support.
“I’m going to head home, switch off for a few days and refocus on being ready for the Vuelta a España.”
A cruel end, but we’ll all remember Alpe d’Huez for a very long time…
Our new best (and when I say best I mean worst) 'cyclists dismount' sign
What in the…? CYCLISTS DISMOUNT in the middle of the dual carriageway pic.twitter.com/bQjuZsplt3
— Mat Burnham (@MatBurnham) July 20, 2022
Fortunate Jack Bauer escapes injury in shocking Tour de France crash involving UAE Team Emirates team car and motorbike
EDIT: Both motos involved in the seperate incidents, metres apart, that brought down Bauer and Eekhoff have been kicked off the race.
Jack Bauer might take issue with us calling him fortunate…
Ridiculous, avoidable crash.
Thankfully Jack Bauer and Nils Eekhoff are ok.#TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/N8DZMzrHCZ
— ITV Cycling (@itvcycling) July 21, 2022
This one could have been so much worse though. Nils Eekhoff fell too on the other side of the pinch point, while UAE’s driver wasn’t too keen on hanging around to swap details…
An understandably angry Bauer screamed “fucking hell” at the offending moto rider before setting off on foot, leaving David Millar on ITV comms to ask: “That press motorbike, what was he doing?” Walk it off, Jack, walk it off…
DSM’s Eekhoff returned to his feat relatively quickly too and both continued stage 18. Back up the road, we’re climbing. I say we… the elite athletes are climbing, I’m slumped in my chair post-lunch, but we’re all in this together, right?
Midway up the Aubisque, hopefully no tacks today, the breakaway of more than 30 riders is scattered across the slope at intervals of up to 1:30 over yellow jersey Jonas Vinegagaard.
Tom Pidcock’s up there somewhere along with, picking a few big names, Wout van Aert (obviously), Bauke Mollema, Giulio Ciccone, our hero Hugo Houle and many, many others…74km to go…
UK's first waymarked gravel cycling trails opened near Aberfoyle
Duke’s Pass out of Aberfoyle was the start of my best ever day on two wheels, so fond personal memories of the place, even if it seems I was riding the wrong type of bike. After all, it’s affectionately called Gravelfoyle for a reason…
Bike Trossachs, a cycling-focused community interest group based in the town has opened three new gravel routes in Loch Lomond and The Trossachs National Park, the first waymarked trails in the UK dedicated to gravel riding.
The 10km, 20km and 30km waymarked routes start and finish in the centre of Aberfoyle and venture deep into the Loch Ard Forest, exploring the areas surrounding Loch Ard and Loch Chon. The routes have been designed “to encourage more cyclists, everyone from families with an appetite for more relaxed off-road adventures to weekend warriors keen on longer distance challenges, to experience the joys and thrills of gravel riding in the area, while using Aberfoyle as a base”.
The village of Aberfoyle, located on the edge of The Trossachs in Loch Lomond has, in the last few years, become a hotspot for gravel riding. Within just a 12km radius of the village there is a network of over 200km of off-road, multi-surface forestry tracks and trails, gravel roads and paths.
In other words, it’s more than worth a trip or serveral…
For all things gravel and dirt, check out off-road.cc, our sister site…
Lift off
Last rodeo starting #TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/BEa44udvXd
— Eemeli (@LosBrolin) July 21, 2022
Too much DRAMA
On the final mountain descent of the Tour de France and Jonas Vingegaard somehow managed to keep this upright…millimetres from disaster…
😱 What a scare for Jonas Vingegaard !
😱 Quelle frayeur pour Jonas Vingegaard !#TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/2dA1Seb00k
— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) July 21, 2022
Moments later, pushing on, it was Tadej Pogačar’s turn for a scare, the Slovenian hitting the deck as he tried to remount over a gravelly roadside…
😱 @TamauPogi crashed! But Jonas Vingegaard waits for him.
😱 @TamauPogi est tombé ! Mais Jonas Vingegaard l’attend.#TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/bmGV0358cx
— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) July 21, 2022
In the end, Jonas waited, Pog returned, and we got a photo of sportsmanship and respect that will become one of the great Tour de France images in years to come, I’m sure…chapeau…
— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) July 21, 2022
Now go kick lumps out of eachother on Hautacam…
Thibaut Pinot, Dani Martinez and Wout van Aert are starting the final climb, looking to be racing for the stage win…let’s play ball…
What the headline should say
The kids are alright. https://t.co/0WduJYrpOQ
— Slow Guy on the Fast Ride (@Slowguyfastride) July 21, 2022
The Tour de France that keeps on giving
Pogacar cracks. It’s done.#TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/E1Vtxeu5Wx
— ITV Cycling (@itvcycling) July 21, 2022
Wout van Aert rides Tadej Pogačar off Jonas Vingegaard’s wheel. Tour de France 2022. Incroyable…
All she wrote... Jonas Vingegaard wins stage 18
Barring injury, crash disaster, or the cruelty of a Covid positive, Jonas Vingegaard should be wearing yellow in Paris on Sunday. The Dane, towed by Wout van Aert, saw his great rival Tadej Pogačar slip away on the final ascent of Hautacam. Van Aert came to a standstill, leaving Vingegaard nothing to do except ride the final kilometres to glory…
🏆💛 Jonas Vingegaard wins in Yellow in Hautacam!
🏆💛 Jonas Vingegaard s’impose en Jaune à Hautacam !#TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/82pWZPs0ZO
— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) July 21, 2022
Van Aert finished third?! (It’s been that sort of Tour)… before best of the rest Geraint Thomas and David Gaudu took fourth and fifth. Vingegaard now leads Pogačar by 3:26…
Game. Set. Match?
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@mctrials23 yeah ... but that's when we look at places like car parks and conclude that in fact 10 or even 5mph does in fact make a lot of sense!
@Mr Blackbird where can I find photos of this study? Asking for a friend.
@Gd29 I was waiting for the classic "why don't we just ban driving completely by reducing the speed limit to 5mph or 0!" argument and here it is. The statistics are very clear on the benefits of reducing the speed limit from 30-20mph. It doesn't remove bad driving but it mitigates the damage. It also makes fuck all difference to journey times. Everything with driving is risk vs reward. Sure, dropping it to 10mph would save a lot more people but it would make travel by car ridiculous and have minimal benefit vs 20mph. The reward wouldn't be worth the cost.
@Gd29 "Speed limits are an ineffective tool when the problem is drivers not driving in an appropriate manner for the conditions and environment. Those drivers weren’t following the speed limit and/or paying sufficient attention anyway!" That is a question, not an assertion. What are the relative numbers of drivers who are eg. "don't care" criminals who may never have taken a test or are happy to take life, how many are "criminally negligent" eg. may have a licence and not intend to break the law regardless, but just aren't fussed about basic safe driving (maybe regularly drive while tired, never slow down when conditions require), how many are just normal humans (who occasionally make unfathomable mistakes)? What are the relative rates of collisions? What are the casualty outcomes? What effect does simply changing a number on a sign have? If any, why? (There's the psychological "anchoring effect", if 70% of people *are* below the limit does that slow down others, do the "don't cares" maybe just overtake dangerously (but would they anyway? ) ) etc. Reduced speed is a mitigation in that it leads to better outcomes in collisions, that's a known I believe. IIRC there's also agreement that it can mean that fewer collisions happen as there's more time to react. "If that is the problem and you don’t deal with it, but you want to keep reducing injuries/fatalities, you have to keep dropping speed limits until you prohibit road use entirely" "If" (plus as noted other safety measures are available)
@Rendel Harris - I think that driver must live near me.
@Gd29 it's good to "point out potential abuse of stats - and for "keeping it concise for the public" no doubt some measure of "lies, damn lies and statistics" applies. But unless you have your own analysis / evidence, this may sound like a "just asking questions!" rhetorical tactic.
@Gd29 exactly what variables / controlled experiments would suffice to convince you, and then how would you believe that would still hold in "real world" situations? We all know there are excellent ways to stop motoring-related KSIs - one being stop humans operating vehicles) but that isn't normally seen as realistic. Then there's another "remove the hazard" approach eg. completely isolate motorists from vulnerable road users (and "footways" alone might not be sufficient, as more people are killed there most years by drivers than eg. by cyclists in total, although that fact doesn't say much ). Though that by itself doesn't address motorists killing themselves / other motorists. Currently the UK - like many countries - is mostly doing a "remove the vulnerable road users" approach, partly by design but mostly indirectly by prioritising convenience for motoring (including journey time, which is seen to involve higher speeds).
Do you really need an AI tool to tell you that 80% of a cyclist's drag is the rider or that getting in a more streamlined position you'll reduce drag etc.? Fabulous for the professional riders who use this site but for the rest of us our money would be better spent on yoga or pilates classes to help you hold a more streamlined position in the first place.
Of course drivers need to be responsible and take care but we are in danger of getting a bit high and mighty when police raise issues like this. Since the clocks went back last weekend, I have been commuting home this week in the dark for the first time this year. I am gobsmacked by the number of cyclists I see who have no lights and no reflective gear, often with no helmets either. It's common sense to take precautions and we've got our head in the sand if we pretend all cyclists are taking appropriate steps to protect themselves and others.
@mdavidford was about to ask them if they thought the law should also been changed to ban the LAs from doing that, so as to save money...
36 thoughts on “Tadej Pogačar crashes moments after Vingegaard’s ridiculous save (+ Jonas wins Stage 18); Confused Geraint Thomas (not the Ineos one) thanked by Pog; Police spot bike theft…during morning meeting; Froome DNF + more on the live blog”
Take that wtjs !!!
Take that wtjs !!!
Since the launch of #OpSnap we have seen over 1400 submissions of dangerous driving. Using that footage, we have taken positive action on over half of the cases. Check out the submitted footage.
Only one involving a cyclist
Only one involving a cyclist and they were done for driving on the pavement not for the close pass.
I did quite like the one on
I did quite like the one on overtaking with long dashed lines. They must be really hot on double white line overtakes !
I did quite like the one on
I did quite like the one on overtaking with long dashed lines. They must be really hot on double white line overtakes !
I assume I’m expected to comply with the prompt and provide contradictory proof. I’m half way across the left lane in the probably forlorn hope that I’ll be quick-witted enough to take advantage of the space to the left when some oncoming nutter Audi driver screeches round the bend at 80. This is Tiguan KV11 AZD. OpSnapLancs report APL106182. No response. No action. They long since gave up with NFA- now you get nothing at all- I suppose this is tied in with some dodge about ignoring cases ‘incorrectly submitted’ or something, to avoid including them in the numbers. There must be some trick to dodge the reports of ‘No MOT No insurance’ vehicles because there are so many of them
Conclusion:
Conclusion:
The other half were cycling related/submitted by wtjs!
or
Their idea of “positive action” is sending a NFA to the complainant?
I was kinda going with 1
I was kinda going with 1
Take that wtjs !!!
Take that wtjs !!!
Quite simple- they’re lying. The dodge will be something along the lines of defining evidence they don’t like as not being ‘dangerous driving’, and making sure that damning and inconvenient cases are not recorded- that is a dodge which Greater Manchester Police employed to great effect before they were ‘put into Special Measures’- a fate so richly deserved by Lancashire Constabulary
This is Stagecoach Route 41 PX12 EEZ at 09:22 on 20.7.22- pretty common Stagecoach driving and becoming commoner because they know the negligible probability of action by Lancashire Constabulary. Reported to OpSnapLancs as APL106375 at 17:00 20.7.22. There will be no response whatsoever- Lancashire Constabulary has never prosecuted anybody for close-passing a cyclist because, by the dodge described above, they don’t accept that as ‘dangerous driving’ unless the cyclist has the decency to be KSI’d at which point it would move into ‘insufficient evidence’
I wonder if it’s worth doing
I wonder if it’s worth doing a FOI request to see how many submissions they have received in total? Because I agree there is some weasle wording there: “we have seen over 1,400 submissions [that we considered to be] of dangerous driving [and a further XX,000 submissions that we simply ignored].”
What the hell, I’ve put in a
What the hell, I’ve put in a FOI. I’ll let y’all know if they reply…
Send these to the Councils
Send these to the Councils Transport Dept and also any Road Safet team to see if they might action.
Send these to the Councils
Send these to the Councils Transport Dept and also any Road Safety team to see if they might action
No, don’t! The only people who can take any action are Lancashire Constabulary officers, and they are conspicuously uninterested in doing so.
Rather telling that they
Rather telling that they picked on that driver in the Golf but state it is the cyclists fault for being on the road for a close pass to take no action.
Take that wtjs !!!
Take that wtjs !!!
Well, here’s another example from the Land of the Laughable Lancashire Policemen! I concede that the lies on the OpSnapLancs Twitter account didn’t mention any great work they were doing on the vehicle fraud/ No MOT/ No Insurance/ No VED front but when the crims know that the police can’t be bothered with/ accept payments to not notice- offences it becomes the Wild North West. Just to see if people are awake during the ITV4 ads, this is a bent plate- what is the true registration? This deception is common up here- particularly with dodgy ‘Highways Maintenance’ vehicles- and go on for years with all those super-efficient Lancashire Constabulary TacOps BMWs with their space-age ANPR cameras somehow missing them!
Just to see if people are
Just to see if people are awake during the ITV4 ads, this is a bent plate- what is the true registration?
It seems the Tour was too exciting, but the photo shows deliberate deception with CV62 EOS crudely defaced to look something like CV8-black blob-EOS. No report to the equally bent OpSnapLancs yet because it looks like the offender will be taking the vehicle completely off grid when the MOT expires in 2 days to complement the absence of VED, and I can report that at the same time
I’m Geraint Thomas, and so’s
I’m Geraint Thomas, and so’s my wife.
Just picking up the bike
Just picking up the bike
Shirley that doesn’t count,
Shirley that doesn’t count, wheels are on the pavement so all road markings can be ignored.
Did they go for the Hazards too? For completeness of course.
Ah, the self entitled in
Ah, the self entitled in their German automobile. I’d be embarrassed to flout as many laws in one go with that parking fuckwittery!
What a cockwomble!
Ah wouldn’t it be a shame if
Ah wouldn’t it be a shame if your bottle were to become dislodged as you try to squeeze past, and accidentally spill fluid onto the driver seat. Very fortunate indeed that nothing like that happened.
Yoga teacher denies killing
Yoga teacher denies killing pro-cyclist in bitter jealousy battle (metro.co.uk)
Perhaps a tweet linking the
Perhaps a tweet linking the current leader of the TdF to two disgraced former professional cyclists might be a bit of a faux pas by the OP.
Perhaps, we certainly meant
Perhaps, I certainly meant nothing by it and was looking at the stage win angle
Sorry, might be crossed wires
Sorry, might be crossed wires here.
I was alluding to the original twitter poster as making a mistake for celebrating two disgraced cyclists in the same breath as the current leader, not having a go at the blog for reproducing it.
?No problem, definitely
?No problem, definitely noticed I probably should have been a bit clearer anyhow
DoomeFrog wrote:
There are plenty of disgraced TDF winners to choose from, it actually seems hard to avoid linking to one.
I’ll just leave this here
I’ll just leave this here
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/21/revealed-oil-sectors-staggering-profits-last-50-years
hawkinspeter wrote:
Oh my lord!
We have a consultation in
We have a consultation in Harrogate on a Station Gateway scheme to make the town centre more pleasant, and to improve conditions for walking, cycling and public transport.
It has already passed 2 consultations. This is the 3rd one, as a result of a threat of judicial review by an opponent of the scheme, as explained here.
If it doesn’t go ahead, we lose £11 million of investment in the town and safe cycle tracks to LTN 1/20 standards (in most places).
If anyone has an interest in Harrogate/lives here/visits regularly, please would you respond to the consultation and support the scheme?
I’m generally leery of being
I’m generally leery of being a “rent-a-mob” for somewhere I don’t live. Not sure the “but the other side are doing it!” makes this better and I know this is a common complaint for consultations. (Quite happy to bloviate on the internet generally though!)
However I’ve a passing knowledge of Harrogate from some years back so will have a look.
In the slow mo on the TV you
In the slow mo on the TV you could see the DSM rider hit the moto on the side of the road first, then the car stopped to avoid the fallen rider and the press moto then got stuck trying to squeeze through the gap.
I would have though the team
I would have though the team cars had parts to play as well as the motos on both incidents, so why only the Motos being blamed?
Obviously Bauer’s fault for
Obviously Bauer’s fault for getting into the motorbikes blind spot, and attempting to overtake rather than waiting at a respectful distance until it was safe to pass.
You would think that the
You would think that the motorists who cover the Tour would have a bit more experience driving around cyclists…
On that ‘Cyclists dismount’
On that ‘Cyclists dismount’ sign, do you think they meant to say ‘Cyclists stop and pray’?
I suppose it should be a stop
I suppose it should be a stop sign to prevent a collision with an accelerating vehicle.
I have never seen anyone on the actual A12 though where there is that layout. Seen a few on the footway.
Highways England, what do you
Highways England, what do you expect?
They have something similar on the A38 south of Derby where a cyclist was killed 5 or 6 years ago. Its all part of the box ticking exercise to show that cyclists have been catered for, when clearly they haven’t.