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Visma-Lease a Bike earn plaudits for “nice gesture”
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Visma-Lease a Bike earn plaudits for “nice gesture”, giving water to Tour de France pro on another team; Latest mind-boggling Pogačar mountain destruction; Olympic athlete photos or police mugshots?; Stolen cargo bikes appeal + more on the live blog

Summer’s well and truly arrived in the UK and in proper British style Dan Alexander is now going to spend the full day complaining about being too hot… great conditions to sit inside and watch a monstrous day of Tour de France mountain climbing
  • by Dan Alexander
Fri, Jul 19, 2024 08:22
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SUMMARY

  • Mysterious account claiming to be UAE mole promises "mind-bender" Tadej Pogačar queen-stage performance displaying "a show of power as the GOAT" (but some are fed up with "arrogant" social media personality)
  • WANTED: International Olympic Committee releases images of cycling suspects
  • 🚨New bike alert 🚨 Canyon unveils all new Aeroad CFR, an all-rounder yet "the fastest bike in the WorldTour peloton"
  • Why the new 2024 Canyon Aeroad might be the end of exciting aero road bikes
  • Former Bath Bicycle Mayor has two cargo bikes stolen during targeted break in
  • "Expert" driver who does "stunts for Channel 4" banned from driving for a year and fined £300 for causing serious injuries to cyclist
  • There can be only one video to welcome the Tour peloton to the Bonette
  • Pogačar attacks, Remco and Vingegaard don't even attempt to follow — can Jorgenson hold on for victory?
  • Right on cue... "I told you so"
  • Tadej Pogačar obliterates opposition in queen stage destruction
  • Cav (+ Astana teammates) make the time cut by five minutes
  • "I was new, I didn't know the rules": Delivery cyclists urge colleagues to follow rules as 37 riders issued £100 fines for cycling in city centre
  • Visma-Lease a Bike earn plaudits for "nice gesture" to give water to Tour de France pro on another team
Visma-Lease a Bike earn plaudits for “nice gesture”
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19 July 2024, 08:22

Mysterious account claiming to be UAE mole promises "mind-bender" Tadej Pogačar queen-stage performance displaying "a show of power as the GOAT" (but some are fed up with "arrogant" social media personality)

The yellow jersey belting out Bohemian Rhapsody, We Will Rock You, We are the Champions and more? Oh, sorry, you meant Tadej Pogačar’s upcoming performance on the Tour de France’s queen stage… not a “mind-bender” showing at a Queen stage performance… got you…

There is still no ID on who ‘Mou’ is, the anonymous social media voice who shot to prominence within the cycling world this week amid suspicion they are a mole close to UAE Team Emirates, before they became increasingly outspoken online as old posts on Cyclingnews’ forum surfaced, essentially predicting Pogačar’s outrageously dominant season (from Strade Bianche to the Tour) step by step.

Tadej Pogačar wins stage 15 of the 2024 Tour de France on Plateau de Beille
Tadej Pogačar wins stage 15 of the 2024 Tour de France on Plateau de Beille (Image Credit: ASO/Charly Lopez)
Tadej Pogačar wins stage 15 of the 2024 Tour de France on Plateau de Beille
Tadej Pogačar wins stage 15 of the 2024 Tour de France on Plateau de Beille (Image Credit: ASO/Charly Lopez)

Mou had been scathing in criticism of Pogačar’s old coach, Inigo San Millan, and since February has been spreading word online that the Slovenian’s new partnership with Javier Sola would unlock his true potential — better climbing performances, less prone to bad days in the third week, less prone to bad days when the weather’s hot, better TTing etc. etc. In short, he claimed: “Pogačar is a Ferrari in which diesel was poured for five years, now when gasoline is poured into it, we get what we are looking at in 2024.”

Now, plenty of his predictions have largely come true and the anonymous ‘mole’, who also shared screenshots of Pogačar’s secret training data as ‘proof’ he has inside knowledge, is becoming more and more confident, outspoken, and some would say “arrogant”…

Unpopular opinion:
This Mou is really starting to get on my nerves with his arrogant and know-it-all writing. I hope this saga ends soon and he goes back into hibernation.

— Andreas Maier (@AndiMaier99) July 18, 2024

For what it’s worth, Pogačar addressed the rumours and social media storm, saying: “I have no idea who this guy is. But yeah, I’ve heard in the last two days he’s getting a lot of attention. I think he gets some things right, but mostly he gets it also wrong.

“I don’t know who this guy is and what’s his purpose. I think he just tries to be important on Twitter and forums or whatever, but I don’t follow, I just heard a lot. People are asking. Maybe we will all together find out who the guy is.”

Fast forward to today and the queen stage of this year’s Tour de France, a monstrous traversing of Alpine giants — three ascents exceeding 2,000m, including the 2,800m Cime de la Bonette — time to test Mou’s claims out…

Tour de France 2024 stage 19 (ASO)
Tour de France 2024 stage 19 (ASO) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tour de France 2024 stage 19 (ASO)
Tour de France 2024 stage 19 (ASO) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Oh, and they’re not holding back with one final (well, until they get bored and need more attention in an hour’s time) prediction…

Tomorrow you will watch a show of power as the GOAT toy with the soon-to-be ex-two-time TDF winner, it will be such a mind-bender that Vini will think back to his old job, packing fish at Glynore market

— mou (@mou55981652) July 18, 2024

Classy. Although if it is Pogačar’s big day of dominance ahead, surely he’s the “soon-to-be ex-two-time TDF winner”. Sorry, Mou. We’ve got to be pedantic…

They added: “Some things are obviously still not clear to people: Vini [Jonas Vingegaard] is not better on the hill than Pog, Vini does not have a better third week than Pog, Vini is not better than Pog in any segment except in aerodynamic position on TT bikes.

“Pogačar’s pain was high temperature and that drained his energy from stage to stage, that is no longer the case after the introduction of the Core device in training. Now that all his flaws caused by his disastrous training have been ironed out, you’re looking at exactly what I said you’d be looking at back in March.”

Perhaps unsurprisingly at the end of a long week, some have had enough…

'Mou' reaction on Twitter
'Mou' reaction on Twitter (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
'Mou' reaction on Twitter
'Mou' reaction on Twitter (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

19 July 2024, 08:22

WANTED: International Olympic Committee releases images of cycling suspects

Top work from Mathew Mitchell who spotted these amusing custody photos from the local nick’s website. Oh sorry, our mistake, they’re actually the official Olympic athlete photos, the requirements for which presumably tell the athletes they must:

  • Be facing forwards and looking straight at the camera
  • Have a plain expression and your mouth closed
  • Have your eyes open and visible
  • Look like the subject of a police mugshot
Dodgy Olympic mugshots Tom Pidcock
Dodgy Olympic mugshots Tom Pidcock (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Dodgy Olympic mugshots Tom Pidcock
Dodgy Olympic mugshots Tom Pidcock (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Dodgy Olympic mugshots Remco Evenepoel
Dodgy Olympic mugshots Remco Evenepoel (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Dodgy Olympic mugshots Remco Evenepoel
Dodgy Olympic mugshots Remco Evenepoel (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Scary stuff.

19 July 2024, 08:22

🚨New bike alert 🚨 Canyon unveils all new Aeroad CFR, an all-rounder yet "the fastest bike in the WorldTour peloton"

2024 Canyon Aeroad CFR AXS.jpg
2024 Canyon Aeroad CFR AXS (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2024 Canyon Aeroad CFR AXS.jpg
2024 Canyon Aeroad CFR AXS (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Is the new Canyon Aeroad truly aero? Canyon unveils all new Aeroad CFR, an all-rounder yet “the fastest bike in the WorldTour peloton”

It got 9/10 from chief reviewer Stu too, “Stunning performance right across the board from this versatile aero machine.”

> REVIEW: Canyon Aeroad CFR AXS 2024

19 July 2024, 08:22

Why the new 2024 Canyon Aeroad might be the end of exciting aero road bikes

19 July 2024, 08:22

Former Bath Bicycle Mayor has two cargo bikes stolen during targeted break in

Stolen cargo bikes (Saskia Heijltjes)
Stolen cargo bikes (Saskia Heijltjes) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Stolen cargo bikes (Saskia Heijltjes)
Stolen cargo bikes (Saskia Heijltjes) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Bath’s former Bicycle Mayor has asked for help getting two cargo bikes back after they were stolen from her garage in a “clearly targeted” burglary. It has been reported to the police and marked as stolen with Bike Register, the two bikes taken an Urban Arrow and a Bike43, both of which RRP at around £6,000.

She said: “It was clearly targeted (no other bikes were taken and none of the neighbours were broken into) and could have been due to my profile as Bicycle Mayor (formerly) and councillor.”

Our 2 cargo bikes were stolen from our garage overnight 😭 – an Urban Arrow and a Bike43.

Please share if you’re in Bath – they can’t be far!!

This has been reported to police and have marked as stolen on @bikeregister pic.twitter.com/G3zq9rOupl

— Saskia Heijltjes (@SaskiaHeijltjes) July 17, 2024

19 July 2024, 08:22

"Expert" driver who does "stunts for Channel 4" banned from driving for a year and fined £300 for causing serious injuries to cyclist

Oakfield Street roundabout in Kelty, Scotland (Google Maps)
Oakfield Street roundabout in Kelty, Scotland (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Oakfield Street roundabout in Kelty, Scotland (Google Maps)
Oakfield Street roundabout in Kelty, Scotland (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> “Expert” driver who does “stunts for Channel 4” banned from driving for a year and fined £300 for causing serious injuries to cyclist

19 July 2024, 08:22

There can be only one video to welcome the Tour peloton to the Bonette

Poor John-Lee Augustyn, the former Barloworld and Sky rider who will always be most synonymous with the Bonette for that famous crash back in ’08…

Whenever I hear Cime de la Bonette, the first thing that pops in my mind is the crash of John Lee Augustyn in 2008. The legend says that his bike is still rolling down the cliff… #TdF2024pic.twitter.com/6L5uXzn9KA

— Mihai Simion (@faustocoppi60) July 18, 2024

Fingers and toes crossed for no repeat of that today. A break of six including Richard Carapaz, Simon Yates, Jai Hindley, Cristián Rodríguez and, curiously, Visma-Lease a Bike duo Matteo Jorgenson and Wilco Kelderman is up the road, currently enjoying a four-minute advantage on the lower slopes of the mythical climb.
 

19 July 2024, 08:22

Pogačar attacks, Remco and Vingegaard don't even attempt to follow — can Jorgenson hold on for victory?

The moment everyone was waiting for…

Pogačar attacks (ITV)
Pogačar attacks (ITV) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Pogačar attacks (ITV)
Pogačar attacks (ITV) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Significantly, it was like at the Giro, Remco Evenepoel and Jonas Vingegaard not even attempting to go with Pogačar, the Belgian and Dane taking up the Dani Martínez and Geraint Thomas role and doing their own race.

The question now is can the Slovenian catch Matteo Jorgenson, the Visma-Lease a Bike domestique given freedom to chase his own result today, and 1:30 ahead of Pogačar with six kilometres to go. That lead has been slashed by more than 30 seconds in the couple of kilometres since the yellow jersey attacked, Simon Yates and Richard Carapaz hovering at around 30 seconds behind the American.

Even during the time writing that last sentence the gap from Jorgenson to Pogačar contracted by another 10 seconds. It’s a tough Tour to be a breakaway rider… stage win or not, this is proving to be the decisive blow in securing UAE Team Emirates’ star a third Tour de France crown.

19 July 2024, 08:22

Right on cue... "I told you so"

I told you so🤔🤔🤔

— mou (@mou55981652) July 19, 2024

19 July 2024, 08:22

Tadej Pogačar obliterates opposition in queen stage destruction

“Is he the immovable object or the irresistible force, it turns out he is both,” Ned Boulting on ITV commentary duty welcomed Tadej Pogačar across the line at Isola 2000, another quite extraordinary stage victory under his belt and now absolutely no doubt (if there ever was) that he will win a third yellow jersey in Nice on Sunday. The only thing that could prevent that now seems the most unfortunate of crashes, illness or injury, Pogačar again making the best cyclists in the world look incredibly average.

The winning margin was 21 seconds over a battling Matteo Jorgenson, Simon Yates and Richard Carapaz also taking deserved top-five finishes from the breakaway. Tellingly, Remco Evenepoel and Jonas Vingegaard did not even attempt to follow when the yellow jersey attacked, instead sticking with their tempo and concentrating on the battle for second.

There goes Tadej Pogacar!#TDF2024 📺: Peacock pic.twitter.com/k0iqeDLhCp

— NBC Sports Cycling (@NBCSCycling) July 19, 2024

By the finish, Pogačar had opened a gap of 1:42 over Evenepoel and Vingegaard. The extent of his dominance is perhaps most evident in the GC picture, Vingegaard’s deficit now 5:03, Evenepoel’s 7:01. In fact, those two are the only riders in the race within 15 MINUTES of UAE Team Emirates’ generational star. Mind-boggling time gaps.

Take a bow, Tadej Pogačar 💛🇸🇮#TDF2024 | 📸 @LeTour pic.twitter.com/hhSra7Y2Nh

— ITV Cycling (@itvcycling) July 19, 2024

19 July 2024, 08:22

Cav (+ Astana teammates) make the time cut by five minutes

Mark Cavendish makes the time cut, stage 19
Mark Cavendish makes the time cut, stage 19 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Mark Cavendish makes the time cut, stage 19
Mark Cavendish makes the time cut, stage 19 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

With five minutes to spare, the image everyone wanted to see. Things are looking less good for Arnaud Démare who is well behind this Astana trio.

🇫🇷 VIDEO OF THE DAY: @LeTour

Tired? Well, looks like not really 😅@MarkCavendish #TDF2024 #AstanaQazaqstanTeam pic.twitter.com/NWgt4EEX60

— Astana Qazaqstan Team (@AstanaQazTeam) July 19, 2024

19 July 2024, 08:22

"I was new, I didn't know the rules": Delivery cyclists urge colleagues to follow rules as 37 riders issued £100 fines for cycling in city centre

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Just Eat cyclist (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Just Eat cyclist.PNG
Just Eat cyclist (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> “I was new, I didn’t know the rules”: Delivery cyclists urge colleagues to follow rules as 37 riders issued £100 fines for cycling in city centre

19 July 2024, 08:22

Visma-Lease a Bike earn plaudits for "nice gesture" to give water to Tour de France pro on another team

Great sportsmanship on display earlier today.

Visma team car helping Sean Quinn with a water bottle. 👏 #TDF2024 pic.twitter.com/0yvICCiU5x

— NBC Sports Cycling (@NBCSCycling) July 19, 2024

It’s actually fairly common practice for teams to offer help to other teams’ riders, even more so when it comes to the grupetto, after all another day it’ll be the cleat on the other foot and your rider needing some help from a rival.

Of course, the front of the race and the battle for GC victory or stages is a completely different matter, but for the most part when the pressure’s off (like here with dropped EF Eduaction-EasyPost domestique Sean Quinn) teams will help each other out. On mountain stages the cars can get especially strung out due to crowds or fast descents, so overall it’s just a nice thing to be nice… plus you might get it caught on camera and shared online to win you some new fans…

Tadej Pogačar had some bidon-related fun to pass the time before his inevitable attack later on Isola 2000, opting to discard of an empty bottle… by lobbing it into Intermarché–Wanty’s team car Angry Birds-style.

Thanks for the bottle Tadej #TDF2024 pic.twitter.com/dCgyCxWCgh

— Intermarché-Wanty (@IntermarcheW) July 19, 2024

Clearly Tour de France queen stages are a bit boring when you’ve got his legs, the yellow jersey having to keep himself entertained early on…

Classic prank perfectly executed 😂

Tadej Pogačar joking with his old team-mate Davide Formolo on Stage 18 of the Tour de France.

Watch full Stage 18 on-bike highlights: https://t.co/zgTdqzvi3e
__________
🇫🇷 #TDF2024 pic.twitter.com/nC7lEPDc7z

— Velon CC (@VelonCC) July 19, 2024

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Dan was the road.cc news editor from 2022-2026. He joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan mainly wrote news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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  1. Miller
    July 19, 2024 at 8:39 am
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    Have not read any Mou

    Have not read any Mou scribbles other than what is being reported but it’s not a far-out prediction to say that Pogi will want to put on a show today. This stage with the big climb, Bonette @ 2800m, is being touted as the one where Vingegaard puts the hurt on Pogacar but really, how likely is that on the evidence so far? I think Pogi will aim for the stage win today.

    Also, will be interesting to see how Evenepoel will do today, I wonder if he will try and put time on Vingegaard.

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    • HarrogateSpa
      July 19, 2024 at 11:41 am
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      Vingegaard/Visma have to try

      Vingegaard/Visma have to try something today, even if it seems unlikely that it will come off. I think it’s great that they are keeping the faith and attacking.

      Pogacar has been the strongest so far, but Evenepoel’s form appears to be improving. Remco’s descending is not great though.

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      • S.E.
        July 19, 2024 at 4:08 pm
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        HarrogateSpa wrote:

        Vingegaard/Visma have to try something today, even if it seems unlikely that it will come off.

        — HarrogateSpa

        Well, they let Jorgensen do his show instead of supporting Vingegaard, I was a bit surprised to see that! Maybe Vingegaard is not their leader anymore… And Jorgensen also failed to win, anyway, so… maybe tomorrow!

        Pogacar is just incredible and he looks like a good guy, far from some 1990’s tours winners, but his superiority kills the competition after a while… we can’t ask him to let others win stages on purpose, can we?

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        • Steve K
          July 19, 2024 at 5:09 pm
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          S.E. wrote:

          Vingegaard/Visma have to try something today, even if it seems unlikely that it will come off.

          — S.E.

          Well, they let Jorgensen do his show instead of supporting Vingegaard, I was a bit surprised to see that! Maybe Vingegaard is not their leader anymore… And Jorgensen also failed to win, anyway, so… maybe tomorrow!

          Pogacar is just incredible and he looks like a good guy, far from some 1990’s tours winners, but his superiority kills the competition after a while… we can’t ask him to let others win stages on purpose, can we?— HarrogateSpa

          I think they had a plan which involved the two riders up the road helping Jonas if he was able to attack.  But it became increasingly clear he couldn’t – not helped by the fact that the other Visma riders in the yellow jersey group were all dropped while Tadej still had four riders with him – so they then let Jorgensen do his thing.

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          • S.E.
            July 19, 2024 at 7:45 pm
            0

            Yes, I got that by watching

            Yes, I got that by watching again after the race. Quite unorthodox, Pogacar did it with Yates the other day, but it was more like some kind of trick…

            My guess is that they were aware that Vingegaard could not compete against Pogacar, so they tried to win a stage with riders who were not dangerous in the general, “dumping” their leader. That said Vingegaard is doing a very good tour apparently, beating his previous performances, but that’s just not enough.

  2. AidanR
    July 19, 2024 at 8:44 am
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    Is Mou actually Pog?
    Is Mou actually Pog?

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    • mdavidford
      July 19, 2024 at 9:01 am
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      AidanR wrote:

      Is Mou actually Pog?

      — AidanR

      No – he’s head coach of Fenerbahçe, which you’d think would keep him too busy to indulge in this kind of nonsense. Maybe the summer break and international competitions have left him with too much time on his hands.

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  3. wtjs
    July 19, 2024 at 8:45 am
    0

    We have here 3 named super

    We have here 3 named super-astounding athletes, who are a bit better than all the other astounding athletes who ride the Tour, but the gaps between them are much, much less than the gap between them and us. This is a Golden Age!

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  4. mdavidford
    July 19, 2024 at 8:51 am
    0

    “Mou” wrote:

    soon-to-be ex-two-time TDF winner

    — "Mou"

    Are they claiming inside info on the anti-doping agencies as well?

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  5. james-o
    July 19, 2024 at 9:08 am
    0

    “There is still no ID on who

    “There is still no ID on who ‘Mou’ is, the anonymous social media voice who shot to prominence within the cycling world this week amid suspicion they are a mole close to UAE Team Emirates”

    Mou.. rhymes with Q. Makes you think eh?

    (no)

     

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    • stonojnr
      July 19, 2024 at 1:04 pm
      0

      It also rhymes with loo,
      It also rhymes with loo, which is where this whole story should have been flushed down

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    • andystow
      July 19, 2024 at 2:13 pm
      0

      I predict it turns out to be

      I predict it turns out to be an IT guy they’ve never even met, but who has access to their data.

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  6. Hirsute
    July 19, 2024 at 11:37 am
    0

    Fixed the rattle on my wife’s
    Fixed the rattle on my wife’s bike – turned out to be a small bracer on the rear mudguard where it screws into the frame. Bracer needed to be horizontal but had slipped.
    Was convinced it was internal cable rattle.

    Almost fell off on a test ride as I turned my heel out to detach the cleat only she prefers old fashioned toe clips …

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  7. Wales56
    July 19, 2024 at 1:39 pm
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    “Summer’s well and truly
    “Summer’s well and truly arrived in the UK”

    …. not in Scotland…. yet… every cloud… no midges with that wind… yet..

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    • chrisonabike
      July 19, 2024 at 1:43 pm
      0

      Would that be the Cairn Gorm

      Would that be the Cairn Gorm for which “The warmest month on record is July 2006, with a mean temperature of 9.9 °C”?

      In which case – it’s a heat wave!

      But yeah – it’s certainly summer (here in Edinburgh) but not necessarily either a great one.  Or “it’s summer, captain, but not as we (from South of the border) know it”.

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  8. Tom_77
    July 19, 2024 at 1:48 pm
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    Interview in The Guardian

    Interview in The Guardian with Laura Kenny

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  9. brooksby
    July 19, 2024 at 2:41 pm
    0

    Sad read in the Graundia:

    Sad read in the Graundia:

    I can’t face getting on my bike after a serious accident – but I’d love to ride again

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/article/2024/jul/19/i-cant-face-getting-on-my-bike-after-a-serious-accident-but-id-love-to-ride-again

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SVXY 4 hours ago

@SVXY Rule 66 of the highway code says you can ride two abreast but to also 'be considerate of the needs of other road users when riding in groups.' It does not say you can ride three or four abreast which would not be considerate of the needs of other road users. As the highway code is used by prosecution lawyers as evidence to convict in Road Traffic Act offences cases you certainly could therefore be prosecuted and convicted for careless cycling if cycling three or four abreast

in: “Many cyclists are out to prove a point and deliberately get in the way”: Daily Mail readers rush to defend unrepentant driving instructor who struck grandmother from behind at 55mph before shouting “f***ing a***holes”
mdavidford 4 hours ago

@SVXY This is a curious tactic - rebutting your own argument with your very next sentence.

in: “Many cyclists are out to prove a point and deliberately get in the way”: Daily Mail readers rush to defend unrepentant driving instructor who struck grandmother from behind at 55mph before shouting “f***ing a***holes”
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Affordable? Starting at £6K? You 'having a larf?

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chrisonabike 5 hours ago

@SVXY Ah, so it *is* the "flood the zone with shit" argumentation technique then? Or perhaps ... you are genuinely unclear about the difference between the Highway code and the law (and perhaps the difference between cyclists, drivers and indeed horse riders? And rusty on safe practice? As mdavidford notes you appear to be confusing rule with Rule 66 (for cyclists, which doesn't say anything about not riding x abreast) with Rule 53 (for horse riders which gives guidance not to more than double up - I don't think this is a direct summary of any law since "should" not "must"). Charitably I'm going with "*i* know what it says!" which as I noted many of people feel they do. Anyway away with you, I feel you've had your fill of attention for today.

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SVXY 6 hours ago

@SVXY None of the magistrates who sentenced him said the CPS should have charged him with dangerous driving. Why should they? He was not speeding, he was not on his phone and he was not drunk or under the influence of drugs either

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Rendel Harris 7 hours ago

@SVXY The court does not decide on whether someone was driving carelessly or dangerously, they can only decide on the guilt or otherwise of the defendant on the charge the CPS decides to lay against them. The CPS is notorious for preferring to charge careless rather than dangerous because it's an easier win; this results in entirely unjust sentences such as this one.

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SVXY 7 hours ago

@Rendel Harris Wearing sandals may be fine if cycling on tracks over fields or in a quiet residential street with a 20 or 30mph limit. It is not sensible cycling on a 60mph main road

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belugabob 7 hours ago

@chrisonabike maybe, but things that used to be banter & jokes in the 1960s/1970s have (thankfully) become socially unacceptable , and this is mostly because enough people spoke up about it. We even managed to make drink-driving a lot less acceptable, by the same means.

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SVXY 7 hours ago

@Rendel Harris Yes, he was driving at 55mph in a 60mph road. The court verdict was he was not driving dangerously but carelessly eg he should have had his visor down to keep out the sun so he could monitor the road ahead.

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